Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
I wanna know where one gets those fuzzy blue seat covers to keep you taosty warm. Perhaps this one is more like it! http://richmond.craigslist.org/car/506218277.html From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007

Re: [MBZ] MB roadside service

2007-12-18 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Good point-I always tip a wrecker driver from either local shop or AAA. I haven't tipped the ML320 driver. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Kevin Kraly
http://richmond.craigslist.org/car/506218277.html That car would fetch another $1K around here. I've got $2800 ($1300 entry fee +another $1500 so far) into my 266k mile '83 'SD, and it isn't sorted out yet. I would be happy to pay $2500 for a W123 with only 140Kmi on it. Kevin in Hillsboro,

Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D

2007-12-18 Thread Harry Watkins
KC 135s and I believe B-52s use water injection. Wilton can explain this better than I can. For take off with heavy loads, they inject water into the engines for a power boost. Harry On Dec 17, 2007 10:37 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - water that's in liquid form, whether fog or

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread LarryT
Howdy - When the hydropneumatic levelling device died on my W108 it allowed the rear of the car to ride very low. Wy too low. I found a Spring Assy. that could be used in lieu of the compensator since back then (30 years ago) they were almost $500. The Spring was less than $100 and

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
New tires, 90% thread? SB tread? Super cool fuzzy blue seat covers? 3 Excellent bumper stickers? Someone needs to hurry up jump on this one before the Super cool fuzzy blue seat covers get stolen installed in a Volvo.. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote: New tires, 90% thread? SB tread? Freudian slip? I've let tires show fabric threads or steel belts in the past. Can't go beyond 5% thread or 1% steel before the air starts leaking out faster than you can pump it in. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-18 Thread LarryT
Hi Rusty, WOW! The odds he would make it for 18 flights must be astronomical! The job those 18 19 year old kids did never fails to amaze. Facing guns and lng odds, most knowing they will probably not see home again dieing in and over jungles, fields and oceans to defend freedom

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-18 Thread LarryT
Great suggestion Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-18 Thread LarryT
Luckily, there are many war museums who are eager for stuff like that - it;s great so much was kept together. Reading letters from the Civil War era is an interesting experience - they really had a much different way of expressing themselves - much more lyrical - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78

Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB

2007-12-18 Thread LarryT
They'll arrange one - they use E Class wagons for service but will arrange a tow if things are that serious - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info

Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond
I think I could give up the microwave for my wife to have met her grandfather... Remember in war people DIE. Sure we get some useful stuff but those people are still dead. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:44:22 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Its not good for a long commute? I thought a 190D would be perfect for a long commute to work. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Well the windows that don't work and are too expensive to fix is a bad fuse. The Takes 10-15 minutes of driving to warm up. and 30-35 MPG are a bad thermostat. It almost certainly needs fuel filters. Oh and its a 2.2l 190D so its not going to drive like a gas car in the best of times. Plus its

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Is that yours? Thats a pretty good ad, the pictures show a car somebody actually wants to sell, its CLEAN! Is it a euro? I highly prize the manual hvac controls. My 240D had 'em and I think they're great. I'd try to get it for $2k but it'd be hard for me to walk away from. My wife would love

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Donald Snook
Kevin wrote: The engine is strong, but doesn't have good pickup? Hmmm. I think that this one's another Bio Baby that hasn't been maintained the way a Mercedes should be maintained. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/512386538.html The strangest thing to me was that he said

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
Not the battery cables - those are tight and the battery took a charge over the last 2 days - 2A trickle, so it should be good to go. Weirdness persists. I am going to soak the tumbler with deoxit and hope some gets to the ignition switch. Will disconnect the battery and rotate the tumbler real

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Jim Cathey
I am going to soak the tumbler with deoxit and hope some gets to the ignition switch. None will. Once you dive into yours you'll know why. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
Kevin noted: He wants $2500 for it with 300K+. The engine is strong, but doesn't have good pickup? Hmmm. I think that this one's another Bio Baby that hasn't been maintained True...but what about those three cutesy bumper stickers he mentioned? Certainly that makes the $2.5K justified,

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
I am going to soak the tumbler with deoxit and hope some gets to the ignition switch. If one is off and start is on, you don't want to clean the switch, you want to take it off and find out why it doesn't turn fully. It has to turn with the lock unless it's loose or something is broken.

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
http://richmond.craigslist.org/car/506218277.html Is that interior correct for what he describes? It looks like an early 240D interior...especially the HVAC controls. Or am I jacked up? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Peter Frederick
It's a pump system with hydraulic damping using air compressed by the movement of the piston shaft back and forth and an internal valving system to keep the resting position the same. Works great when new, but I suspect they are all long dead by now. Either the seals fail and it won't hold

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
I've done an ignition switch on the 92 Dodge and in that case some might get on the terminals...no idea what the MB one looks like. Does anyone know if you need a special tool to remove the ignition switch? Dodge had tamper-resistant torx. Thanks, Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Perhaps you should try a different battery? No amount of charging will help a bad battery. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
I hear you. Took a closer look and one is actually partially on and start is more on. prolly mechanical, but maybe not. Do you know if there is a special tool to get the ignition switch off? Van had temper-resistant torx. I'm afraid I'll need a special MB tool (which really would be tamper

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Its just held on with 3 flat head screws --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote: I believe there are people out running about that should be included in OK Don's case load (wait...that would be disparaging to OK Don's clients...I'm sure they have more on the ball that some of these knucks). I think you mean Iowa Don AKA Lt. Wonko.

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
Battery has fully charged. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you should try a different battery? No amount of charging will help a bad battery. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Christopher

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: If one is off and start is on... Where did that 'one' come from? If on is off and start is on... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
As if I need another... I'm very very tempted. I'm asking 3,900 for an '85 with 232K. From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:33:00 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] take

Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D

2007-12-18 Thread Luther
My company has several trucks with H2O injection. Let me ask our fuel economy manager for his take on it. Luther On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:37:20 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - water that's in liquid form, whether fog or mist, or what ever should give more cylinder pressure when

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
great. Thanks! Chris Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its just held on with 3 flat head screws --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, December 18,

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
I thought you were calling the...oh, let's call it the glow position...one - you said one, so I ran with with. So to restate, on is actually not off, but partially on...start is more on, but not start. Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: If one is off and start

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
You know, you're right! It's hard to tell from pic but doesn't look like '85 turbo HVAC. Also appears that the zebrano wood is missing on center console? Am I right that '84 offered a turbo and non-turbo but in '85 was only the turbo? The only think I can tell about the engine is the oil dipstick

[MBZ] oxymoron of the day

2007-12-18 Thread Luther
http://mbca.cartama.net/archive/index.php/f-32.html #15 Fast 240 D What are they smoking -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Joe Knight
Been a while now but Dan Penoff used to have a '62 300SE, a fintail with hydropneumatics. As I recall, when I first saw it the car had been sitting for quite a while and the suspension had leaked down. It pumped right up on starting though and held pretty well at shutoff. Don't know if he ever

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
Yupgot my dons mixed up for a second... which, on the sopranos, could get you in trouble. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] take

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond
I bought mine because Marshall said they were about the best econmomical long commute cars out there. It truely is, in the summer I've gotten as high as 43mpg if I can keep it slow... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:31:20 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] take a

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Jim Cathey
Been a while now but Dan Penoff used to have a '62 300SE, a fintail with hydropneumatics. That's different. The leveling device was, IIRC, always called a 'compensator'. Though it was _a_ hydropneumatic levelling device, it was not _the_ hld. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
I'd certainly go give it a gander if I were closer. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Jim Cathey
You know, you're right! It's hard to tell from pic but doesn't look like '85 turbo HVAC. My guess is that it's a non-turbo Euro car. The ADA/ALDA on the injector pump looks suspiciously free of piping, which the turbo would have. I don't think you could get the manual HVAC here on anything

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Gary Hurst
the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights. On Dec 18, 2007 7:53 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - When the hydropneumatic levelling device died on my W108 it allowed the rear of the car to ride very low. Wy too low. I found a Spring Assy.

[MBZ] Having to Slam Door

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
When it's cold (well, cold for here.below 50 degrees) my drivers door requires more effort to get it closed. When it's in the 30's like it was this morning it requires great effort to get it closed. At first I thought it was the new weatherstripping I put on but I installed that two years ago and

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
I couldn't disagree more. I replaced the rear spring kit with an OEM used compensator and this eliminated a lot of harshness in how the car takes bumpy roads, esp. in the rear. On Dec 18, 2007 7:53 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - When the hydropneumatic levelling device died on

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
Perhaps. I noticed the differnece immediately in my 280SE 3.5. I can't recall whether my W108 280SE sedan had the spring or the compensator. On Dec 18, 2007 10:43 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights. On Dec 18,

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Timothy Robinson wrote: Am I right that '84 offered a turbo and non-turbo but in '85 was only the turbo? MBUSA had only turbos from 82-85, except for the 240D. I don't think a turbo was ever available in the 123 chassis except for North America and maybe Japan. I'll add my vote to the euro

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Christopher McCann wrote: So to restate, on is actually not off, but partially on...start is more on, but not start. Might be something bent inside the switch, but it's sounding like you might get away with tightening those three screws. (or tightening one, and finding replacements for two

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Wonko the Sane
Only slightly mixed up -- the other Don's wife is a psych nurse. On Dec 18, 2007 9:35 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yupgot my dons mixed up for a second... which, on the sopranos, could get you in trouble. Bob R. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
He is subscribed here also, I do believe. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device Been a while now but Dan

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yes, its a euro car, it has the euro IP and the euro metal injection lines. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:42 AM

[MBZ] Fw: [Banned] The Maine Truth

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Just FYI for those following this story. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Regina M. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [Banned] The Maine Truth Okay,

[MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread archer
NEW DELHI: The luxury brand Jaguar is poised to join an Indian auto company that makes everything from tractor-trailers to the world's least expensive car. Tata Motors is the front-runner in the race to buy Ford Motor's Jaguar, as well as Land Rover, and a decision about a winning bidder could be

Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] The Maine Truth

2007-12-18 Thread Rich Thomas
There is not a lot that upsets me but I am crying as I sit here. I am thinking about Christmas for our family, and what to get everyone, and I read this and it just makes me so sad and angry. Those kids have now what they need and that is some good people to take care of them. It will be a

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Allan Streib
I think Tata is a huge conglomerate that owns about half of India. Allan archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEW DELHI: The luxury brand Jaguar is poised to join an Indian auto company that makes everything from tractor-trailers to the world's least expensive car. Tata Motors is the

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Rich Thomas
I like huge Tata's, I think it is good for a country to have such things. --R Allan Streib wrote: I think Tata is a huge conglomerate that owns about half of India. Allan archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEW DELHI: The luxury brand Jaguar is poised to join an Indian auto company that

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
Har dee har har... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar I like huge Tata's, I think it is good for a country to have such

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Sunil Hari
having used Tata vehicles, the quality will be a step up. On Dec 18, 2007 12:05 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Tata is a huge conglomerate that owns about half of India. Allan archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEW DELHI: The luxury brand Jaguar is poised to join an

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond
And 190D... Yeah its my day to be that guy. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:24:38 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
that would be nice. I'll report once I dig into it. Was going to do it last night, but I just bought a bunch a new tools and I decided to put iron bars up on the inside of my garage windows...already have them all over the house. Midtown KC is...spotty. The German Shepherds help. Think I'm

[MBZ] Growling When Turning Left

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
So.today I noticed a growling when turning left at slow (parking lot) speeds. Doesn't do it turning right. Level in PS res is SAT. Does this mean anything? Next time I feel like getting underneath the car I'm going to drain the PS system including the steering box, replace all hoses and give 'er

[MBZ] Knock on wood - 300D/Water injection

2007-12-18 Thread wilton strickland
KC-135A's and all B-52's prior to H's (all with J-57 engines) used water injection for about 2 min on takeoff for significant increase in thrust. KC-135's now have been retrofitted with much newer, much more powerful, airline surplus, turbofan engines - don't think they use water injection any

Re: [MBZ] Growling When Turning Left

2007-12-18 Thread Allan Streib
Could be a wheel bearing on its way out. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So.today I noticed a growling when turning left at slow (parking lot) speeds. Doesn't do it turning right. Level in PS res is SAT. Does this mean anything? Next time I feel like

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Allan Streib
A step up for Tata? Or Jaguar? Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: having used Tata vehicles, the quality will be a step up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Sunil Hari
for shaguar, of course. On Dec 18, 2007 1:35 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A step up for Tata? Or Jaguar? Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: having used Tata vehicles, the quality will be a step up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Growling When Turning Left

2007-12-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 18, 2007 10:21 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So.today I noticed a growling when turning left at slow (parking lot) speeds. Doesn't do it turning right. Level in PS res is SAT. Does this mean anything? Next time I feel like getting underneath the car I'm going to drain the

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Allan Streib
So Tata vehicles are OK? How come we don't see 'em in the states? Allan Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for shaguar, of course. On Dec 18, 2007 1:35 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A step up for Tata? Or Jaguar? Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: having used Tata

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Sunil Hari
it's not so much that Tata vehicles are so great (they do OK, esp on Indian roads), it's that Jag is that bad. On Dec 18, 2007 2:01 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Tata vehicles are OK? How come we don't see 'em in the states? Allan Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
Probably has something to do with our emission and safety standards? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/18/07 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar So Tata vehicles are OK? How

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness...

2007-12-18 Thread John Robbins
Christopher McCann wrote: Think I'm going to put a switch in the house to cut power to the garage so that the automatic doors stay put when I want them to stay put. Maybe overkill - someone would have to be crazy to try to get past the Shepherds...esp. Sammy - 100 lbs. of serious intimidation.

Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question

2007-12-18 Thread R A Bennell
How about an outbuilding with only 2 wire service - hot and neutral - for 120V? Should I also have a ground rod? That is the situation with the pumphouse at the lake. I was looking at it last summer and thinking that there should be either a 3rd wire from the house or a ground rod down at the

Re: [MBZ] Growling When Turning Left

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I've had a PS fluid flush and refill fix strange steering symptoms more than once. That could be all you need. Don't forget the filter, it's easy to do so since it's submerged in the fluid inside the reservoir. Sometime in the first 300,000 miles of its

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Sunil Hari wrote: it's not so much that Tata vehicles are so great (they do OK, esp on Indian roads), it's that Jag is that bad. If Tatra were to take over Jag, which would be considered the inferior brand? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

2007-12-18 Thread Bill Ringgold
I toured the Tata steel plant and the Tata truck factory next to it in Jameshedpur about 15 years ago. I am more knowledgable on their social activities from the time, and that was impressive. Back then it was a very good company; sounds like it still is. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original

[MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT)
I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? I figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems dirt cheap to me. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood - 300D/Water injection

2007-12-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
I remember dad pointing that out when I was a kid, the water injection on take-off. It led to my experimentation of igniting diesel or kero and spraying a little water on the fire. (early pyromanic?) For some reason I made a young connection that THAT was the reason water in fuel was a bad thing.

Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-12-18 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Diesel price in Hawaii... $3.799 Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ, but spending the holidays in Hawaii. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 18, 2007 12:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? I figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems dirt cheap to me. On the subject---Kaleb, what kind of mileage do

Re: [MBZ] cuttting power to garage (was starting craziness)

2007-12-18 Thread Christopher McCann
There is a breaker going to the garage already...in the basement, which is not too convenient. ...a switch just for the garage openernot a bad idea. Then I would still have power for plugging in the SDI could simply wrap the wires around the romex strand that is strung to the garage

Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
geez --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices Diesel price

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I dont have one, never have had a 6.5 suburban but from what I hear it should get 17-21 or so. I am looking for a 6.5, but they are hard to find and when you do they have tons of miles on them and they want too much for them. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question

2007-12-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
Seems at that distance you get quite a bit of voltage drop under load @120V. Does the motor on the pump ever feel like it's running hot? Anyway, I would think 3rd wire for ground. My idea on grounding equipment is not so much consideration of lightening but just the fact that in case of a fault,

Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Chuck Landenberger wrote: Diesel price in Hawaii... $3.799 Diesel 3.49 here, kero 3.90. http://www.speedway.com/FindUs/StoreLocator/GasPriceSearch.aspx?ZipCode=48813 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I dont have one, never have had a 6.5 suburban but from what I hear it should get 17-21 or so. I am looking for a 6.5, but they are hard to find and when you do they have tons of miles on them and they want too much for them. How about this one? I modded the

Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question

2007-12-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
OH... here's a similar situation. A friend renovated an old loft space and added an old porcelain cast iron sink and an older electric range. He was going for a 20' Deco look and chose the old appliances. The circuit for the range was two wire 240V. Originally the wiring in the building was in

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
geez, see what I mean. Its really not worth the few mpg different to spend the extra to find a diesel one. They almost always have well over 200k (at least what I have seen lately) and want alot for them. the gassers can be cheap if you look. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Kevin Kraly
I thought a 190D would be perfect for a long commute to work. Curt has his 190D because it gets good MPG on his 110 mile round trip commutes to work, wonderful use of the diesel's good qualities. It won't be able to handle commuting because it's trashed! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD

Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-12-18 Thread Allan Streib
On the other hand -- High 78, low 66. Allan Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chuck Landenberger wrote: Diesel price in Hawaii... $3.799 Diesel 3.49 here, kero 3.90. http://www.speedway.com/FindUs/StoreLocator/GasPriceSearch.aspx?ZipCode=48813

Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!

2007-12-18 Thread Kevin Kraly
You sure make it sound like a better car! Once the new t-stat is installed, and operating temp goes up, it should run better and quieter. Not only that, it will burn all of the carbon out and it'll get better MPG. A Diesel Purge will help quite a bit too. Hopefully, the engine hasn't

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote: I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? I figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems dirt cheap to me. The cheapest '97 I could find here, after I found that $6k '97 diesel project, was $4900.

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I will call the guy and find out I guess. Just not sure I want a 7.4 though. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs

2007-12-18 Thread Bill
Allen - I bought a 50cc Chinese scooter a couple of years ago [nearly got my wife killed, but that is another story]. It was ok for the most part, but the fuel line had a real tendency to fail [every 150 miles or so]. I got rid of it after the wreck [@ 500 miles], but it did seem to need a

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Donald Snook
I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? I have some experience with those. We had one at the dealership I worked at. We used it to pull a boat. It will get 9-10 mpg (on the highway) loaded or not. It will pull like a freight train. When we pulled the boat

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yea, but I bet it pulled like crazy though. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT,

Re: [MBZ] Growling When Turning Left

2007-12-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 18, 2007 11:56 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: I've had a PS fluid flush and refill fix strange steering symptoms more than once. That could be all you need. Don't forget the filter, it's easy to do so since it's submerged in the fluid inside

Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door

2007-12-18 Thread Kevin Kraly
I remember a post some time ago where someone had this problem. It ended up being a plastic piece in the latching mechanism that was cracked/broken. i'm not sure if this would be your problem since it only occurs when it's cold outside. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula

Re: [MBZ] Tata/tatra

2007-12-18 Thread RELNGSON
If Tatra were to take over Jag, which would be considered the inferior brand? Be careful, Tata and Tatra are two different companies. If Jaguar production should be moved out of the UK, I can see US sales, at least, disappearing. Present day Jags, although now fairly reliable, are still

Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question

2007-12-18 Thread R A Bennell
Interesting. I have a similar sensation if not scenario. I have never received a shock from the pump but have noted a minimal shock sensation from the boat if I use the battery charger on the boat battery with the cord plugged into the pump house. Not sure if the issue is the pumphouse. Might

Re: [MBZ] Growling When Turning Left

2007-12-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
I have had similar symptoms caused by low PS fluid. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 13:22 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Growling When Turning Left So.today I noticed a growling

Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban

2007-12-18 Thread Kevin
A friend has a 96 or 97, can't remember. It hauls large amounts of ass, and has gobs of power. He tows a race car in an enclosed trailer with it, and has no real complaints with it. Then again, it replaced an early suburban with a carbed 454 and TH400. I don't think he's broken double digits with

Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood - 300D/Water injection

2007-12-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
The main effect of water injection was to cool the air in the compressor section creating a denser (more O 2) gas, like the turbo in Diesels. These J-57s were incredibly noisy while wet especially in the back. When the water ran out, the decrease in thrust and noise was very apparent. vsr

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