Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg
and natural gas is running out too, just like oil. Joe Knight wrote: Kind of like running on natural gas. You can do pretty well if you can fill up without having to pay for the electricity to compress the stuff into your tank. joe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg
Not so. As long as Wisconsin continues to produce beer, bratwurst and cheese, there will be no shortage of natural gas. On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and natural gas is running out too, just like oil. Joe Knight wrote: Kind of like running on natural gas. You can do pretty well if you can fill up without having to pay for the electricity to compress the stuff into your tank. joe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg
well yes, I suppose that is true. LT Don wrote: Not so. As long as Wisconsin continues to produce beer, bratwurst and cheese, there will be no shortage of natural gas. On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and natural gas is running out too, just like oil. Joe Knight wrote: Kind of like running on natural gas. You can do pretty well if you can fill up without having to pay for the electricity to compress the stuff into your tank. joe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Plug-in hybrids get 250 mpg
Lt Don.. Do you have a personal recycling station? Don't want to know the details :) Chuck Phoenix,AZ 1980 300SD On Aug 15, 2005, at 4:09 PM, LT Don wrote: Not so. As long as Wisconsin continues to produce beer, bratwurst and cheese, there will be no shortage of natural gas.
Re: [MBZ] putting a 116 617 engine into a 126
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I can think of things that would have to be swapped: linkage, motor mount arms, oil filter canister, air cleaner maybe. ALL YES. What else am I missing? Is the exhaust hookup the same? Not exactly but not a huge PITA. Any other electrical differences as far as glow plugs go? Ayup, you will have to swap in the entire 116 system as it's completely different, even the plugs and connectors are different and the relay is completely different (possibly not if the 116 is MY 1980, tho). Also the 116 has the cable-operated warmup idle adjustment, where the 126 did not. What about the vacuum pump? Big difference, the wrench who did mine had to fabricate plumbing, you will have to use the 116 one I would think. The biggest difference of all is the oil pan. Going in reverse to your swap, the 116 pan touches the 126 crossmember just enough to make a constant thump over large bumps. You will need to measure carefully to make sure there are not other issues, going the opposite way. Also the oil cooler lines are differerent, depending on which oil filter housing you use. Mac
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
Yes - but it's only the opening sentenence. Don't give him any incouragement! Also - I remember the SU's as having the oil dampers, not the Strombergs. You have to get your facts straight to be a successful writer (I wish!). On 8/15/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice as far as it gets, but one aches for more... On 8/12/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of literature, the Bulwer-Lytton award is out for this year -- As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Stromberg carburetors in his vintage Triumph Spitfire, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the shop manual. Dan McKay Fargo, ND http://www2.sjsu.edu/depts/english/2005.htm -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] putting a 116 617 engine into a 126
Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I can think of things that would have to be swapped: linkage, motor mount arms, oil filter canister, air cleaner maybe. ALL YES. What else am I missing? Is the exhaust hookup the same? Not exactly but not a huge PITA. Ok, so what all is different and what all would need to be swapped? Would it just be easier to swap the whole intake/exhaust/turbo off the 126 motor onto the 116 motor? Any other electrical differences as far as glow plugs go? Ayup, you will have to swap in the entire 116 system as it's completely different, even the plugs and connectors are different and the relay is completely different (possibly not if the 116 is MY 1980, tho). The 126 plugs wont screw into the 116 head? Any of the temp sensors different? Are you talking aobut the complete harness that hooks the plugs/temp sensors into the glow plug relay? IS this all thats attatched to this harness or does anything go elsewhere on the car besides to the relay? Also the 116 has the cable-operated warmup idle adjustment, where the 126 did not. Thats not a problem, just leave off the cable. What about the vacuum pump? Big difference, the wrench who did mine had to fabricate plumbing, you will have to use the 116 one I would think. OK. So if that is the case would probably have to keep the 116 air cleaner then since it has the vacuum pump exhaust going to it. The biggest difference of all is the oil pan. Going in reverse to your swap, the 116 pan touches the 126 crossmember just enough to make a constant thump over large bumps. You will need to measure carefully to make sure there are not other issues, going the opposite way. Got ya. Can swap pans while the engines are out. Also the oil cooler lines are differerent, depending on which oil filter housing you use. Will be using the 84 housing so the 126 cooler lines will just stay with the car. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] putting a 116 617 engine into a 126
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There could be a few problems, but they are BOTH OM617.95 engines - the 116 engine is a 617.950 while the 300SD had a 617.951 engine. Kaleb, I did not see that Marshall had replied, before I wrote mine. He noted some stuff I forgot The transmissions ARE different so all the the vacuum and accelerator linkage from the newer car would have to be used with the newer transmission as both vacuum AND cables are needed on the later 722.3 series transmission vs the 116 series 722.1 series transmission. Well I was under the impression there were bigger differences than that, based on comments I got when my swap was being planned (mine was 126 - 116)... I was told the 126 transmission is physically smaller and uses much different linkage arrangement, and that using it (though faster in terms of bolt-out, bolt-in) would have entailed custom driveshaft work. Plus I guess we can assume the size difference would mean problems with the trans mount? So we went with the 116 trans, even though the 126 is much superior in terms of day to day driving Hooking up AC MIGHT be a problem (especially if the 116 used a York compressor on the right side of the engine rather than a GM rotary on the left side - I'm just not sure what that looks like The answer to this would be a resounding YES, but we had burned up so much shop time on my swap, by the time we got to that stuff, that we just said 'enuff already' and left it disconnected. Mac
Re: [MBZ] putting a 116 617 engine into a 126
yea, I had already planned on keeping the 126 tranny of course. Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There could be a few problems, but they are BOTH OM617.95 engines - the 116 engine is a 617.950 while the 300SD had a 617.951 engine. Kaleb, I did not see that Marshall had replied, before I wrote mine. He noted some stuff I forgot The transmissions ARE different so all the the vacuum and accelerator linkage from the newer car would have to be used with the newer transmission as both vacuum AND cables are needed on the later 722.3 series transmission vs the 116 series 722.1 series transmission. Well I was under the impression there were bigger differences than that, based on comments I got when my swap was being planned (mine was 126 - 116)... I was told the 126 transmission is physically smaller and uses much different linkage arrangement, and that using it (though faster in terms of bolt-out, bolt-in) would have entailed custom driveshaft work. Plus I guess we can assume the size difference would mean problems with the trans mount? So we went with the 116 trans, even though the 126 is much superior in terms of day to day driving Hooking up AC MIGHT be a problem (especially if the 116 used a York compressor on the right side of the engine rather than a GM rotary on the left side - I'm just not sure what that looks like The answer to this would be a resounding YES, but we had burned up so much shop time on my swap, by the time we got to that stuff, that we just said 'enuff already' and left it disconnected. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:00 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 050815 2.567 2.544 2.618 2.633 2.499 2.524 2.481 2.615 2.891 3.042 050808 2.407 2.386 2.492 2.484 2.334 2.336 2.323 2.486 2.801 2.943 050801 2.348 2.356 2.488 2.465 2.297 2.292 2.279 2.421 2.594 2.657 050725 2.342 2.365 2.508 2.481 2.303 2.292 2.278 2.405 2.530 2.578 050718 2.392 2.412 2.535 2.521 2.354 2.361 2.331 2.430 2.530 2.589 050711 2.408 2.427 2.533 2.524 2.377 2.384 2.355 2.408 2.526 2.589 050704 2.348 2.370 2.485 2.475 2.315 2.328 2.290 2.328 2.467 2.554 050627 2.336 2.368 2.476 2.461 2.318 2.314 2.288 2.288 2.433 2.522 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188 2.320 2.284 2.134 2.111 2.117 2.179 2.317 2.367 050523 2.156 2.181 2.338 2.292 2.119 2.097 2.112 2.207 2.339 2.373 050516 2.189 2.204 2.380 2.315 2.141 2.129 2.141 2.267 2.397 2.432 050509 2.227 2.237 2.389 2.342 2.179 2.157 2.173 2.318 2.481 2.518 050502 2.262 2.264 2.410 2.366 2.207 2.194 2.209 2.355 2.530 2.561 050425 2.289 2.287 2.413 2.382 2.234 2.230 2.231 2.371 2.549 2.570 050418 2.259 2.260 2.418 2.373 2.197 2.194 2.180 2.379 2.554 2.582 050411 2.316 2.306 2.434 2.423 2.244 2.263 2.251 2.399 2.585 2.625 050404 2.303 2.299 2.427 2.412 2.238 2.258 2.240 2.361 2.541 2.581 050328 2.249 2.248 2.374 2.360 2.189 2.203 2.182 2.326 2.483 2.512 050321 2.244 2.245 2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198 2.154 1.957 1.953 1.943 2.087 2.321 2.259 050214 1.986 2.013 2.197 2.150 1.938 1.935 1.915 2.011 2.190 2.196 050207 1.983 2.025 2.222 2.159 1.950 1.938 1.938 1.967 2.113 2.144 050131 1.992 2.048 2.225 2.172 1.979 1.954 1.940 1.946 2.085 2.126 050124 1.959 2.014 2.180 2.140 1.945 1.928 1.919 1.884 2.027 2.068 050117 1.952 2.009 2.168 2.127 1.944 1.928 1.908 1.877 2.001 2.023 050110 1.934 1.999 2.163 2.133 1.926 1.911 1.876 1.877 1.973 2.014 050103 1.957 2.025 2.180 2.163 1.952 1.929 1.887 1.934 2.011 2.063 041227 1.987 2.045 2.196 2.161 1.982 1.959 1.928 1.961 2.040 2.097 041220 1.984 2.052 2.199 2.171 1.988 1.944 1.922 1.988 2.047 2.087 041213 1.997 2.063 2.206 2.184 1.998 1.953 1.910 2.049 2.097 2.138 041206 2.069 2.111 2.234 2.220 2.053 2.033 1.995 2.124 2.181 2.225 041129 2.116 2.141 2.258 2.252 2.082 2.086 2.053 2.171 2.233 2.287 041122 2.116 2.143 2.258 2.251 2.086 2.083 2.048 2.170 2.242 2.299 041115 2.132 2.159 2.268 2.262 2.105 2.096 2.056 2.215 2.274 2.336 041108 2.163 2.182 2.296 2.278 2.130 2.123 2.096 2.248 2.324 2.386 041101 2.206 2.212 2.330 2.307 2.161 2.172 2.147 2.276 2.370 2.431 041025 2.212 2.213
Re: [MBZ] Diesel price
Donald, That Mastodon they found would not be out by Schoelfield, would it? Last time I was in town they had the road ripped to heck and saw the photo of the find, and figured it was bound to be close to there. On Sunday, August 14, 2005, at 09:32 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Diesel is $2.38 inWichita,Kansas. It is usually lower on the turnpike, but I haven’t looked yet. Donald H. Snook -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
Hi, The strombergs do have oil dampers, well the 175, as found in some Mercs, do anyway. You can see the black screws that access the oil resorvoir in these pics http://www-cdr.stanford.edu/~cutkosky/jh/ZH_pics/carbs.html if you still don't believe me then you can check out http://www.snic-braaapp.org/needle.pdf for a good pic of the actual damper. Hendrik - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator? Yes - but it's only the opening sentenence. Don't give him any incouragement! Also - I remember the SU's as having the oil dampers, not the Strombergs. You have to get your facts straight to be a successful writer (I wish!). On 8/15/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice as far as it gets, but one aches for more... On 8/12/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of literature, the Bulwer-Lytton award is out for this year -- As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Stromberg carburetors in his vintage Triumph Spitfire, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the shop manual. Dan McKay Fargo, ND http://www2.sjsu.edu/depts/english/2005.htm -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005
[MBZ] canadians are on crack
http://cgi.ebay.ca/1973-Mercedes-Benz-280-Mint-Four-Door-Sedan_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6329QQitemZ4567793586QQrdZ1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal
The car costed $110,000 in 1987. He isn't serious, is he? On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1987-mercedes-benz-300-sdl-turbo-diesel-1985-sd-car_W0QQitemZ4567803305QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem guy seems like a dumbass though -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal
yeeeaa LT Don wrote: The car costed $110,000 in 1987. He isn't serious, is he? On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1987-mercedes-benz-300-sdl-turbo-diesel-1985-sd-car_W0QQitemZ4567803305QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem guy seems like a dumbass though -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] a challenge for you engineers
I think you can buy a fancy wireless headphone system that enables you to do just that. -Dan In a message dated 8/14/2005 6:33:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do most of my radio listening via the Internet -- AirAmericaRadio, BBC, etc. This is stuff that you can't get on normal broadcast band. But I don't want to be tied to my desktop computer all of the time. Would it be possible to design a small low-power FM transmitter that hooked into the computer (maybe a PCI card?) that would broadcast RealPlayer audio output within the space of a house? I'd certainly buy one!
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal
Do I hear Dueling Banjo's in the background? Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal yeeeaa LT Don wrote: The car costed $110,000 in 1987. He isn't serious, is he? On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1987-mercedes-benz -300-sdl-turbo-diesel-1985-sd-car_W0QQitemZ4567803305QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem guy seems like a dumbass though -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHAHA That made me think of the new dukes of hazard movie for some reason. Rick Knoble wrote: Do I hear Dueling Banjo's in the background? Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal yeeeaa LT Don wrote: The car costed $110,000 in 1987. He isn't serious, is he? On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1987-mercedes-benz -300-sdl-turbo-diesel-1985-sd-car_W0QQitemZ4567803305QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem guy seems like a dumbass though -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
It is a former engine, it has shuffled off this mortal coil On Sunday, August 14, 2005, at 07:39 PM, LT Don wrote: This has one of the best Freudian slip typos I've ever seen: this car does not run (ceased engine) and will probably never run again I guess if the engine has seized then it indeed has ceased. Don On 8/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-2-2-diesel- 1985-Mercedes-Benz-diesel-2-2-4-door-does-not- run_W0QQitemZ4567504481QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen experimentation begins...
Very good - keep us informed! On 8/15/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday I finally got around to draining my fuel tank. Not nearly as rusty as I thought. filtered the fuel through thick denim (will filter to 5 microns), then filtered a mix of used veggie oil, used crankcase oil, used oil bath air cleaner oil and then tossed in a gallon of canola oil and a quart of 10W-40 I didn't want. Then topped it off with GE 8932Q additive. All in all the mix is 1 part goop to 6 parts diesel#2. So far so good. Engine runs quieter and there are no billowing clouds of smoke, which I expected from the addition of so much motor oil. I guess INJECTING/ATOMIZING it rather than partially burning oil that gets passed rings makes a big difference. Will slowly increase my proportion of goop to diesel over time. It is quite amazing what will make a diesel go! I have a source for UNUSED motor oil/hy-tran/VO for 25 cents a gallon here in town. More on that later. I'm gonna try to check that out today. Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 208K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas
Diesel is $2.44 and unleaded is $2.48 in OKC today. On 8/15/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I would rather drink beer on the stoop with bill hanging by a noose from a tree branch. On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 07:15 AM, JJJ wrote: High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! If that is true then answer me this: Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live? What a naiive statement that was..Mike old bill will be dead for years and he'll still get credit for geopolitical events that take/took years and many to foment...from the noise generated about him and his wife, one would think they have extreme mojo...i'd still rather drink beer with bill on the stoop... -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! I think that's giving him too much credit. Right! It's all Reagan's fault!!! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas
Its way out of control. Its been going up 10 cents every couple of days here lately. It really sucks when you drive 200+ miles per day, 5-6 days a week. Im giving some serious thought to quiting my autotrader job and contrating more on parting out cars. OK Don wrote: Diesel is $2.44 and unleaded is $2.48 in OKC today. On 8/15/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
well...i guess i'd sit and wonder at the power of the fellow with the saxaphone playin' your dirge...then maybe i'd ask him to invite george over for a beer and see what happened... I would rather drink beer on the stoop with bill hanging by a noose from a tree branch. On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 07:15 AM, JJJ wrote: High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! If that is true then answer me this: Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live? What a naiive statement that was..Mike old bill will be dead for years and he'll still get credit for geopolitical events that take/took years and many to foment...from the noise generated about him and his wife, one would think they have extreme mojo...i'd still rather drink beer with bill on the stoop...
Re: [MBZ] OT: Replacing 1999 Chevy Malibu V6 alternator
Potter, Tom E wrote: Leave it to GM to make even a simple alternator removal a complicated procedure that requires 47 special tools. Don't feel bad; Mr. Goodwrench could not replace it either without a 15-page procedure and a box of special tools. Actually, it was a piece o' cake once someone told me what to look for. There's a square hole in the tensioner arm that you fit a 3/8 drive ratchet into. The alternator is held on by three bolts, two easy ones and one that's hard to get at, but the hole for the tough one is U-shaped, so you can just wiggle it out. My only complaint is that someone thought it would be a good idea to put one of the engine mounts *through* the belt. When I saw that, I decided I didn't need to put on a new belt while I had it apart. ;)
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
Yup - you are right! I didn't remember that. I quit working on those about the time the Strombergs hit the shop. I knew they didn't have that cool piston floating in the carb throat. I used to enjoy tuning the SUs. On 8/15/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The strombergs do have oil dampers, well the 175, as found in some Mercs, do anyway. You can see the black screws that access the oil resorvoir in these pics http://www-cdr.stanford.edu/~cutkosky/jh/ZH_pics/carbs.html if you still don't believe me then you can check out http://www.snic-braaapp.org/needle.pdf for a good pic of the actual damper. Hendrik -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] 123 AT kickdown solenoid
Where is the solenoid? I've had similar problems, though intermittent Thanks!! Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 AT kickdown solenoid In a message dated 8/15/2005 9:38:20 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My '84 300DT likes to blow the fuse any time I floor the pedal and engage the kickdown. I have checked the switch and it tests ok. VOM is telling me that I have a dead short in the solenoid. Has anyone replaced one of those before? Is there any good automatic transmission manual available for these cars? Ben, I have replaced the one on my 79 300SD. It is fairly simple to replace, just un screw the through bolt (about 22mm) and carefully lift everything off. If you get your replacement from a self service wrecker first, you will see the plunger and spring assy inside and know what to look for when you take yours off. Make sure the plunger moves freely inside the coil as a stuck plunger is what can burn up the coil. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I would rather drink beer with bill on the stoop with a branch davidian hanging from a moose -- On 8/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would rather drink beer on the stoop with bill hanging by a noose from a tree branch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:04:51 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! I think that's giving him too much credit. Right! It's all Reagan's fault!!! Nope. It's William McKinley's fault. Craig
Re: [MBZ] canadians are on crack
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.ca/1973-Mercedes-Benz-280-Mint-Four-Door-Sedan_W0QQcmdZViewIte mQQcategoryZ6329QQitemZ4567793586QQrdZ1 Actually, crystal meth is the choice on the street up here now. Authorities are really freaked about it as it's CHEAP. This guy needs more oxygen. Mac
[MBZ] vacuum diagrams
Anybody knows where I can get a vacuum diagram from my 72 250? It's still backfiring and I'm guessing it's from the manifold port. Any idea what the presure should be? also where do the hoses connect to? one should go to the AC on/off switch. Not sure where the other one goes to. Any help would be greatly appriciated. George
Re: [MBZ] canadians are on crack
I'm originally from Mtl as well, NDG, lived in Ottawa for more than 20 years and now live in Gatinhol... Gagineau... make that Gatineau (former town of Aylmer) across from Ottawa. I'm actually a dual citizen, having been born in the same hospital as Hurst (yes, TRUE) when my dad was working in New York. Arizona and Northern Cali look damn good to me, about 8 months of the year, but I'd need a job with secure health care Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol, Where are you from Mac? I'm originaly from montreal but got tired of paying 15.56% sales tax, 50% income tax and 4$ a gallon for fuel / last year. -- Original message -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.ca/1973-Mercedes-Benz-280-Mint-Four-Door-Sedan_W0QQcmdZViewI te mQQcategoryZ6329QQitemZ4567793586QQrdZ1 Actually, crystal meth is the choice on the street up here now. Authorities are really freaked about it as it's CHEAP. This guy needs more oxygen. Mac
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
Hi again, They do have a piston that moves up and down to alter the amount of air(and fuel), that is why the need the damper. I think basically the Stromberg works exactly the same as a SU. However I have heard people say that the SU is easier to live with than the Stromy but I would not know for sure. Hendrik - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator? Yup - you are right! I didn't remember that. I quit working on those about the time the Strombergs hit the shop. I knew they didn't have that cool piston floating in the carb throat. I used to enjoy tuning the SUs. On 8/15/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The strombergs do have oil dampers, well the 175, as found in some Mercs, do anyway. You can see the black screws that access the oil resorvoir in these pics http://www-cdr.stanford.edu/~cutkosky/jh/ZH_pics/carbs.html if you still don't believe me then you can check out http://www.snic-braaapp.org/needle.pdf for a good pic of the actual damper. Hendrik -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005
[MBZ] Another engine swap question ...
To follow on to Kaleb's question about a W116 engine going into a W126 (or was it the other way around?), How much difficulty would it be to put a 616.912 engine into a W121 (instead of the 621.910 engine)? Craig
[MBZ] CL list of mid august cars
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91299853.html --83 300D $2600cdn http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91288386.html --91 e300 AWD $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91247946.html --87 diesel burb $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91165316.html --220D seller on crack http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91101714.html --Car for Casey $50 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91014541.html --Beater 280SE $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/90990695.html --pimped 93 300e http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/90953902.html --74 280 $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/90953902.html --89 126 $5500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/90832812.html --91 rodbender $7500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/90773866.html --87 pimped SEC $7k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/90756358.html --71 Bavaria $3500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/90687220.html --diesel benz cars That is all for now. not mine, not seen, know nothing -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] canadians are on crack
LOL, Small world. My sister is in Kanata. I'm on a work visa. Work down here is hard to come by with the economy the way it is. Going from a low economic place to a high one like N. Cali is tough. I lived there for 2 years and the first 3 months was the hardest. In the right area you can rent your tool shed for 2K / month. -- Original message -- I'm originally from Mtl as well, NDG, lived in Ottawa for more than 20 years and now live in Gatinhol... Gagineau... make that Gatineau (former town of Aylmer) across from Ottawa. I'm actually a dual citizen, having been born in the same hospital as Hurst (yes, TRUE) when my dad was working in New York. Arizona and Northern Cali look damn good to me, about 8 months of the year, but I'd need a job with secure health care Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol, Where are you from Mac? I'm originaly from montreal but got tired of paying 15.56% sales tax, 50% income tax and 4$ a gallon for fuel / last year. -- Original message -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.ca/1973-Mercedes-Benz-280-Mint-Four-Door-Sedan_W0QQcmdZViewIte mQQcategoryZ6329QQitemZ4567793586QQrdZ1 Actually, crystal meth is the choice on the street up here now. Authorities are really freaked about it as it's CHEAP. This guy needs more oxygen. Mac ---BeginMessage--- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ---End Message---
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Wacko On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 07:30 PM, OK Don wrote: I would rather drink beer with bill on the stoop with a branch davidian hanging from a moose -- On 8/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would rather drink beer on the stoop with bill hanging by a noose from a tree branch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
The Strombergs replaced the piston with a diaphragm. The needle that's moved by either the piston or diaphragm is in both. On 8/15/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, They do have a piston that moves up and down to alter the amount of air(and fuel), that is why the need the damper. I think basically the Stromberg works exactly the same as a SU. However I have heard people say that the SU is easier to live with than the Stromy but I would not know for sure. Hendrik -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
[MBZ] Blue carpet dash mat for w123
Anyone got a blue one they don't need, by any chance? Otherwise, who's best to order one from? You know what I mean, right? The carpet or velour thingies, not the plastic coverlays. What the guy who owned my 240d in Texas should have had. Yeech, what a mess is my dashtop, my codpiece quivers. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Another engine swap question ...
I saw that car also - http://tinyurl.com/amobf - but thought about a 617.951 :-) I'm sure either one would be a bit of work, but very rewarding! On 8/15/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To follow on to Kaleb's question about a W116 engine going into a W126 (or was it the other way around?), How much difficulty would it be to put a 616.912 engine into a W121 (instead of the 621.910 engine)? Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Is it Friday yet? On 8/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wacko -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
Both are side-draft variable venturi carbs. Work a dream when they are right, bit PITA when not -- FI is MUCH better! Peter
[MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions Mac
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
You give all of the presidents too much credit. It's not the current presidents fault, it's not Clinton's fault. Matter of fact, it's not any president's fault! To put things on perspective, if you were to factor inflation into 1981 gas prices then 1981 gas would be the equivalent of $3.10 per gallon at today's dollars! In other words, today's gas is still cheaper than it was in 81 when you add in inflation. Our problem is that we are spoiled - we want cheap gas diesel, and we've been getting cheap gas diesel for quite a while. If you want to blame someone for the higher prices of oil fuel then the proper people to blame are China. They are the fastest growing consumers of oil in the world and their purchases are driving up the price of crude oil. What do they do with it? Many things, but much goes into plastics other oil derivatives and those products go into products that they export to us! In other words, your $49.00 made in China DVD player is made partly from the oil they import. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:05 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! I think that's giving him too much credit. Right! It's all Reagan's fault!!! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 300D transmission
http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/91311765.html dude wants $350 -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
[MBZ] Engine
http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/91266266.html --80 617 -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] a challenge for you engineers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do most of my radio listening via the Internet -- AirAmericaRadio, BBC, etc. This is stuff that you can't get on normal broadcast band. But I don't want to be tied to my desktop computer all of the time. Would it be possible to design a small low-power FM transmitter that hooked into the computer (maybe a PCI card?) that would broadcast RealPlayer audio output within the space of a house? I'd certainly buy one! No need to design anything, your solution is available off the shelf. You could buy a small broadcast device designed to be used by ipod/mp3 players that plug into the sound out port, made by several vendors, this broadcasts on the FM band. Plug this into the sound out on your computer. Get small portable radio, or walkman like device to receive broadcast signal. Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 84kmi
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I like to blame the people driving the monster SUVs with only one person in the car that I see commuting every day. I also like to blame automakers that are so slow to respond to changes in the market. General Motors responds to slumping SUV sales by restyling. Apparently nobody at the general has noticed gas prices... I seem to remember something maybe a year ago where the automakers were saying that it would take a year of gas prices above $2 a gallon to make SUV and truck sales slump. I haven't heard anything about that in quite awhile. Anybody else remember that? -Curt '83 240D Hammie 234kmi @~28mpg Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:46:51 -0500 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: !~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACABgAM9IJVqe+l0eHuWQQJM3uEsKQyp4LYI5llEqYxqmOsub8/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You give all of the presidents too much credit. It's not the current presidents fault, it's not Clinton's fault. Matter of fact, it's not any president's fault! To put things on perspective, if you were to factor inflation into 1981 gas prices then 1981 gas would be the equivalent of $3.10 per gallon at today's dollars! In other words, today's gas is still cheaper than it was in 81 when you add in inflation. Our problem is that we are spoiled - we want cheap gas diesel, and we've been getting cheap gas diesel for quite a while. If you want to blame someone for the higher prices of oil fuel then the proper people to blame are China. They are the fastest growing consumers of oil in the world and their purchases are driving up the price of crude oil. What do they do with it? Many things, but much goes into plastics other oil derivatives and those products go into products that they export to us! In other words, your $49.00 made in China DVD player is made partly from the oil they import. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
In a message dated 8/16/2005 2:49:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our problem is that we are spoiled - we want cheap gas diesel, and we've been getting cheap gas diesel for quite a while. YES WE ARE!I try not to gripe about the price of fuel. I think of it this way: The price of fuel here is STILL cheaper than anywhere else in the world that i would choose to live. Get's pretty hard not to gripe a little when you are so spoiled though;) Mike
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Curt Raymond wrote: I seem to remember something maybe a year ago where the automakers were saying that it would take a year of gas prices above $2 a gallon to make SUV and truck sales slump. I haven't heard anything about that in quite awhile. Anybody else remember that? It has been modified to $3 a gallon, last I heard. Who knows what it will really take. Personally, as much as high prices hurt, I have a hard time seeing it as a bad thing over the long term. The world has changed and in the past couple years several billion people (China, India, and the former USSR) have found themselves at the doorstep to the good life that has previously been the exclusive domain of North America, Western Europe, and Japan. They're not going to turn away from their newfound prosperity so we're going to have to adapt, and high oil prices are the impetus for that change. Everyone (including Mother Earth) will be better off for it. You can still have your Escalade, you're just going to have to either demand a smarter means of propulsion or quit bitching about what it costs to fill it up. I'm doing my part. Tom '82 300D - 27mpg, so no more commuting '96 Passat TDI - 45mpg, 60 mile a day commuter wundercar
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:38:02 -0400 Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I thought I made it clear that I have actually done this in several previous emails. That's why I have a 240D/3.0. Craig --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 219 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
In a message dated 8/16/2005 9:35:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like to blame the people driving the monster SUVs with only one person in the car that I see commuting every day. I also like to blame automakers that are so slow to respond to changes in the market. General Motors responds to slumping SUV sales by restyling. Apparently nobody at the general has noticed gas prices... I seem to remember something maybe a year ago where the automakers were saying that it would take a year of gas prices above $2 a gallon to make SUV and truck sales slump. I haven't heard anything about that in quite awhile. Anybody else remember that? If you were to compare SUV's and such to smaller cars, figuring in the amount of oil used in making the huge plastic parts also, I wonder what the total oil consumption over the life of the vehicles would average out to. Not very scientific but probably pretty eye-opening for some. I think alot of the SUV craze goes along with convenience. I watched a woman one day filling her huge Excursion with the cheapest gas she could get, at the time just over $2.00, all the while just a bitchin' about the price of gas. I then walked over to her, asked how much she paid for the bottle of water she was drinking($1.19) and then pointed out that, for convenience, she had paid around 8 times as much for that bottled water than she was paying per gallon for gasoline. She stared at me, looked at the water bottle and saidOh well and went right back to complaining about the gas. As long as it's convenient pay for it with a credit card and bitchIt's the American way..;( Disgusted with credit and tired of hearing people complain while driving 10mpg gallon trucks, Mike
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
Steve MacSween wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I know that Craig McCluskey has, as has Mat Cama. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen experimentation begins...oil detergents?
visited A-1 barrel company this morning. They recondition barrels, vacuuming out the contents. Oils are strictly separated (showed me his certificate of purity, which he needs to sell it to guys who use it to heat shops, etc)...mix of virgin motor and tranny fluid (mainly) with a tad of veggie. 1,000 liters for $75 (includes tote)...comes to 28.4 cents/gallon. What I am womdering is now is if this stuff can be used in a dual tank veggie oil system. The flash point of D2 is 125 degrees, of veggie oil 620 degrees...motor oil is 460, 480 for synthetics and tranny oil is 400. So from that perspective, it should work. Viscosities, I doubt are much different, especially at the injection temp of 160 degrees. The only thing I'm wondering about is: 1) the effect of burning oil detergents in the engine 2) what do you get when you burn synthetic oil? plastic? The oil furnaces burn it fine, so I think it should be OK. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very good - keep us informed! On 8/15/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday I finally got around to draining my fuel tank. Not nearly as rusty as I thought. filtered the fuel through thick denim (will filter to 5 microns), then filtered a mix of used veggie oil, used crankcase oil, used oil bath air cleaner oil and then tossed in a gallon of canola oil and a quart of 10W-40 I didn't want. Then topped it off with GE 8932Q additive. All in all the mix is 1 part goop to 6 parts diesel#2. So far so good. Engine runs quieter and there are no billowing clouds of smoke, which I expected from the addition of so much motor oil. I guess INJECTING/ATOMIZING it rather than partially burning oil that gets passed rings makes a big difference. Will slowly increase my proportion of goop to diesel over time. It is quite amazing what will make a diesel go! I have a source for UNUSED motor oil/hy-tran/VO for 25 cents a gallon here in town. More on that later. I'm gonna try to check that out today. Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 208K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 208K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas
Seems like California always gets screwed becase we can afford it? --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday. On 8/15/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never noticed the increase in diesel price until now! --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own GreaseCar franchise. On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end times. Paul Raheb wrote: Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79. TODAY I *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL AT $3.15/gal. OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal. Paul Visalia, CA 1985 300TD-T Mommy Wagon 1984 300D-T Hot Rod PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95 Message: 4 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi All, Normally, this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel - but with the increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and comparable E320s, I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy. Here's the deal: my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute. She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive. My 1st choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320. Also, the price of diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50. So, I have to factor in: -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high also) -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine -- the longer lifespan reduced maint of a diesel -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage. -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten? What do ya'll think??? Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a reasonable 96-99 E300D Thanks for your insight, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Gabriel S. 1987 300D Southern California 230K+ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Gabriel S. 1987 300D Southern California 230K+ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
yes ,the only problem is that you to find a good driveshaft place to cut the drive shaft. John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Steve MacSween wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I know that Craig McCluskey has, as has Mat Cama. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net - Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
yes ,the only problem is that you to find a good driveshaft place to cut the drive shaft. John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I know that Craig McCluskey has, as has Mat Cama. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen experimentation begins...oil detergents?
Christopher McCann wrote: visited A-1 barrel company this morning. They recondition barrels, vacuuming out the contents. Oils are strictly separated (showed me his certificate of purity, which he needs to sell it to guys who use it to heat shops, etc)...mix of virgin motor and tranny fluid (mainly) with a tad of veggie. 1,000 liters for $75 (includes tote)...comes to 28.4 cents/gallon. What I am womdering is now is if this stuff can be used in a dual tank veggie oil system. The flash point of D2 is 125 degrees, of veggie oil 620 degrees...motor oil is 460, 480 for synthetics and tranny oil is 400. So from that perspective, it should work. Viscosities, I doubt are much different, especially at the injection temp of 160 degrees. The only thing I'm wondering about is: 1) the effect of burning oil detergents in the engine 2) what do you get when you burn synthetic oil? plastic? The oil furnaces burn it fine, so I think it should be OK. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. At least SOME of the waste oil furnace makers recommend NOT using synthetics in their furnaces. I offered a friend who heats his cabinet shop with waste oil, my discarded oil, but the maker of HIS relatively recent furnace recommended against using synthetic even when mixed with a fairly high percentage of conventional oil. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, but apparently there is some problem or at least concern. I know that when I have used a qt of synthetic mixed with a tankful of fuel instead of conventional oil as a tonic for my diesels the results were very much inferior and quite disappointing. No clue why. Neither of these observations directly address the question about whether a blend of conventional and synthetic waste oil, ATF and some WVO is a tolerable fuel. I would think it would burn, but could create problems that a highly refined product intended/optimized specifically for the application (and not what had been discarded from other applications when sufficiently contaminated) would NOT likely cause. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
Here in Atlanta we are blessed with two such driveshaft shops that are up to this task. On my conversion, I had a true Euro 300d parts car so there was no need to modify the driveshaft. It was a purely bolt in affair. The N/A m617 with a manual trans behind it is really a nice driver. Steve, let me know what your questions are regarding the conversion. Mathieu Cama '67 250s (4 sale) '71 280se 5 speed '77 300d (soon to be 4 sale) '78 280slc 4 speed '82 280te '83 240d 3.0 4 speed '84 300d 5 speed '86 190e 2.3-16 At 11:10 AM 8/16/2005, you wrote: yes ,the only problem is that you to find a good driveshaft place to cut the drive shaft. John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I know that Craig McCluskey has, as has Mat Cama. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
juan palacios wrote: yes ,the only problem is that you to find a good driveshaft place to cut the drive shaft. Or, find the proper front halfshaft and just have it and the rear rebalanced. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
SUV's all get lumped together. My Toyota 4Runner does about as well on gas as most mini-vans and nobody seems to write articles in the paper complaining about the gas used by the soccor mommies driving around in mini-vans. (how can you tell that irks me?) I can justify the 4Runner living up here in the great white north. 4 Wheel drive is worth its weight in gold during the winters. All wheel drive cars are out there but don't have any clearance. I can still get out when there is a foot of the white stuff in the lane. I had a Chevy Suburban previously and loved it. Haul anything you want and tow anything you want and haul up to 9 passengers with seat belts on. However, most of my driving is not loaded and I couldn't justify another one, hence the 4Runner. Randy in Winnipeg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices In a message dated 8/16/2005 9:35:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like to blame the people driving the monster SUVs with only one person in the car that I see commuting every day. I also like to blame automakers that are so slow to respond to changes in the market. General Motors responds to slumping SUV sales by restyling. Apparently nobody at the general has noticed gas prices... I seem to remember something maybe a year ago where the automakers were saying that it would take a year of gas prices above $2 a gallon to make SUV and truck sales slump. I haven't heard anything about that in quite awhile. Anybody else remember that? If you were to compare SUV's and such to smaller cars, figuring in the amount of oil used in making the huge plastic parts also, I wonder what the total oil consumption over the life of the vehicles would average out to. Not very scientific but probably pretty eye-opening for some. I think alot of the SUV craze goes along with convenience. I watched a woman one day filling her huge Excursion with the cheapest gas she could get, at the time just over $2.00, all the while just a bitchin' about the price of gas. I then walked over to her, asked how much she paid for the bottle of water she was drinking($1.19) and then pointed out that, for convenience, she had paid around 8 times as much for that bottled water than she was paying per gallon for gasoline. She stared at me, looked at the water bottle and saidOh well and went right back to complaining about the gas. As long as it's convenient pay for it with a credit card and bitchIt's the American way..;( Disgusted with credit and tired of hearing people complain while driving 10mpg gallon trucks, Mike
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I'll hoist one to his hanging. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of redghost Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:03 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices I would rather drink beer on the stoop with bill hanging by a noose from a tree branch. On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 07:15 AM, JJJ wrote: High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! If that is true then answer me this: Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live? What a naiive statement that was..Mike old bill will be dead for years and he'll still get credit for geopolitical events that take/took years and many to foment...from the noise generated about him and his wife, one would think they have extreme mojo...i'd still rather drink beer with bill on the stoop... -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can still have your Escalade, you're just going to have to either demand a smarter means of propulsion or quit bitching about what it costs to fill it up. I'm doing my part. Exactly. There is no shortage of Range Rovers and big Jags on the roads in Britain, even at their gas prices (takes well over $100 to fill a Jag there, has for years). It reminds me of the big hysteria when cigarettes crept up to $1 a pack, when I was a teenager. No one will smoke when they hit $1! People still smoke, and a pack is now about $7. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Gas Reliability OT from Diesel
Donald Snook wrote: A friend of mine has a 93 500SEL for sale. Nice car lots of service records (allegedly I have not seen them). Is this one of those cars that reliability is questionable at best and the costs of maintenance and repair are catastrophic at worst? It has around 170,000 miles on it. Like all '93 MBs, it has 13 year old biodegradeable wiring. I may be wrong, but I think it has the same mind-boggling list of electrical accessories that the 600SEL has. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but the more gizmos you have, the more often you will have to deal with a failed one. I don't believe the 5.0 V8 is bad, but it does have four cams, two cam chains, and 32 valves/valve guides to worry about.
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Steve MacSween wrote: People still smoke, and a pack is now about $7. Wow, I thought $4 a pack in Michigan was high. My nephew-in-law buys cigars instead. They look exactly like cigarettes, except the paper is brown instead of white. (same filter, same package) He pays $0.99 for a pack of 20. Makes me wonder why anybody would smoke Marlboros.
Re: [MBZ] Gas Reliability OT from Diesel
check the harness's behind the motor along the firewall in the plastic loom. ETA is significantly cheaper AND there is only one at 170kmi I'd check the chain, 150kmi is recommended to change the chain Jim - Original Message - From: Donald Snook To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: [MBZ] Gas Reliability OT from Diesel A friend of mine has a 93 500SEL for sale. Nice car lots of service records (allegedly - I have not seen them). Is this one of those cars that reliability is questionable at best and the costs of maintenance and repair are catastrophic at worst? It has around 170,000 miles on it. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. -- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] vacuum diagrams
W114 M130 -- Original message -- W115 or W108 chassis? Peter ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Diesel here jumped 11 cents overnight, $2.469 to $2.579.
Re: [MBZ] Gas Reliability OT from Diesel
I think it comes with a twelve pack of speeding tickets. You simply fill in the date of the traffic stop. On 8/16/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has a 93 500SEL for sale. Nice car lots of service records (allegedly – I have not seen them). Is this one of those cars that reliability is questionable at best and the costs of maintenance and repair are catastrophic at worst? It has around 170,000 miles on it. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Replacing 1999 Chevy Malibu V6 alternator
Like I said: GM works to find ways to make things difficult. They found out that the older GM alternators (85 Buick, etc.) were too easy for us to replace--had to fix that. Not that Ford is any better! Try changing a PS pump. They even changed the taillight bulbs so the generic ones won't fit. And don't forget the STRANGE connections for the AC and fuel lines. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 ...My only complaint is that someone thought it would be a good idea to put one of the engine mounts *through* the belt. When I saw that, I decided I didn't need to put on a new belt while I had it apart. ;) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Gas Reliability OT from Diesel
Donald Snook wrote: A friend of mine has a 93 500SEL for sale. Nice car lots of service records (allegedly – I have not seen them). Is this one of those cars that reliability is questionable at best and the costs of maintenance and repair are catastrophic at worst? It has around 170,000 miles on it. There were special front end problems with the first few years of the W140 design (at least '92-'93) that were the subject of a class action lawsuit and the problems were never actually repaired - the owners that had problems were simply given discounts on new cars. Most owners of W140s have suggested that they are superior cars AS LONG AS THE WARRANTY is in effect and many/most owners say they would not want to own/maintain one without a warranty. Repairs are VERY expensive (because the car is complex). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
the comment care to live any other place in the world got my attention, I live in Mexico and love it, so I´ll go by a Pemex station and check the price of diesel, do the conversion to peso, and we will see if where we are in the big bad world. 1st I am going to have a couple of cervezas, listen to KPLU jazz station for awhile, and then maybe get busy and think about checking the price. On 8/15/05, JJJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well...i guess i'd sit and wonder at the power of the fellow with the saxaphone playin' your dirge...then maybe i'd ask him to invite george over for a beer and see what happened... I would rather drink beer on the stoop with bill hanging by a noose from a tree branch. On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 07:15 AM, JJJ wrote: High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! If that is true then answer me this: Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live? What a naiive statement that was..Mike old bill will be dead for years and he'll still get credit for geopolitical events that take/took years and many to foment...from the noise generated about him and his wife, one would think they have extreme mojo...i'd still rather drink beer with bill on the stoop... ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com http://www.marketplacemexico.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
In a message dated 8/16/2005 1:35:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the comment care to live any other place in the world got my attention, I live in Mexico and love it, so I´ll go by a Pemex station and check the price of diesel, do the conversion to peso, and we will see if where we are in the big bad world. 1st I am going to have a couple of cervezas, listen to KPLU jazz station for awhile, and then maybe get busy and think about checking the price. That comment is anyplace else in the world I would care to live. Way too hot in Mexico for me. Enjoy your afternoon and have one for us.Mike
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor
Yes...But is it normal for the low setting to be so low as to be almost imperceptible? On 8/15/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Thanks, Marshall. I recently changed the foam connector hose. My question was really how much action can you expect to get from the blower on the 'low' setting The low setting should be slower and thus move less air than the slowest speed of the 3 or 4 auto settings. The high setting will move MORE air than any speed of the auto setting. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] canadians are on crack
I owned a blue 1973 280 (our first Benz) and it had a great ride. Only problem is (my bete noir) MANUAL windows! :(( On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.ca/1973-Mercedes-Benz-280-Mint-Four-Door-Sedan_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6329QQitemZ4567793586QQrdZ1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas
Like I said, IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!! On 8/16/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like California always gets screwed becase we can afford it? --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday. On 8/15/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never noticed the increase in diesel price until now! --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own GreaseCar franchise. On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end times. Paul Raheb wrote: Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79. TODAY I *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL AT $3.15/gal. OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal. Paul Visalia, CA 1985 300TD-T Mommy Wagon 1984 300D-T Hot Rod PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95 Message: 4 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi All, Normally, this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel - but with the increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and comparable E320s, I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy. Here's the deal: my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute. She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive. My 1st choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320. Also, the price of diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50. So, I have to factor in: -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high also) -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine -- the longer lifespan reduced maint of a diesel -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage. -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten? What do ya'll think??? Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a reasonable 96-99 E300D Thanks for your insight, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Gabriel S. 1987 300D Southern California 230K+ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal
Nice to know that both cars have a 4-speed overdrive automatic transmission ... On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHAHA That made me think of the new dukes of hazard movie for some reason. Rick Knoble wrote: Do I hear Dueling Banjo's in the background? Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL and 300SD package deal yeeeaa LT Don wrote: The car costed $110,000 in 1987. He isn't serious, is he? On 8/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1987-mercedes-benz -300-sdl-turbo-diesel-1985-sd-car_W0QQitemZ4567803305QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem guy seems like a dumbass though -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Gas Vs Diesel - Choice of Vehicles
Thanks for the suggestions about my question of buying a used E320 Vs a
E300D.
Now that the discussion has turned into a comparision of gas Vs diesel
prices I guess I'll report on the prices around here (Va) - unleaded gas is
around $2.45 with diesel even higher at $2.49.
Still not sure what I'll do with the E320 Vs E300D question. Losing .$.05
cents per gallon plus a $5k lower purchase price makes the E320 attractive
until I consider repair prices. I'm confident I can work on the diesel but
I'm not so sure about the gas engine.
Maybe I'll flip a coin. Even though deep down I *know* the diesel is the
smart purchase in the long run even *with* a premium on the fuel...
Thanks again --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
You're sick. On 8/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would rather drink beer on the stoop with bill hanging by a noose from a tree branch. On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 07:15 AM, JJJ wrote: High fuel prices are ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!! If that is true then answer me this: Why is the fuel here in the USA STILL cheaper than any other place in the world we would care to live? What a naiive statement that was..Mike old bill will be dead for years and he'll still get credit for geopolitical events that take/took years and many to foment...from the noise generated about him and his wife, one would think they have extreme mojo...i'd still rather drink beer with bill on the stoop... -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas
Federal incentives promote biodiesel U.S. biodiesel production is expected to double this year as a direct result of lofty oil prices and increasing government support, industry officials said this week. Energy Department officials said biodiesel could make up 10 percent of U.S. fuel within a decade. That percentage would put consumption at about 5 billion gallons per year, said Amber Thurlo Pearson, spokeswoman for the National Biodiesel Board. However, without government incentives, biodiesel is much more costly to produce. Depending on the material used, the fuel could cost 75 cents to a dollar more per gallon than petrodiesel, some analysts said. Energy legislation enacted earlier this month sustained tax credits for fuel distributors who blend biodiesel with petrodiesel and fuel stations that have biodiesel pumps available to customers. The tax incentives go a long way toward making biodiesel competitive, and the high oil prices really do help, said Leland Tong, an energy consultant with Marc-IV Consulting in Kansas City, Mo., who works with the National Biodiesel Board. Further government regulations effective next year will mandate diesel producers limit sulfur in oil to 97 percent, further encouraging the use of biodiesel. In March, seven Energy Plus 24 stations in Indiana began carrying B-5, a fuel blended from 5 percent biodiesel and 95 percent regular diesel. Twenty-seven Kentucky retailers also offer biodiesel blends (EENews PM, Aug. 5). With an increased demand and a market price similar to oil, industry officials and scientists alike are exploring newer ways to produce and market biodiesel. Researchers at Capital Technologies International in Pittsburgh are developing a process for producing biodiesel fuel that results in few emissions. The group will use plant and animal oils from partner Valley Proteins as well as waste from area restaurants to infuse diesel. Capital Technologies chief executive officer Richard Jackson said that their technology is better, cheaper, faster and safer, than other biodiesel programs. Processing will begin next year at Valley Proteins retired Neville Island plant, officials said (Pamela Gaynor, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Aug. 16). -- RLG On 8/16/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said, IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!! On 8/16/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like California always gets screwed becase we can afford it? --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday. On 8/15/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never noticed the increase in diesel price until now! --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own GreaseCar franchise. On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end times. Paul Raheb wrote: Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79. TODAY I *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL AT $3.15/gal. OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal. Paul Visalia, CA 1985 300TD-T Mommy Wagon 1984 300D-T Hot Rod PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95 Message: 4 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi All, Normally, this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel - but with the increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and comparable E320s, I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy. Here's the deal: my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute. She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive. My 1st choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320. Also, the price of diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50. So, I have to factor in: -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high also) -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine -- the longer lifespan reduced maint of a diesel --
[MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch
Hi gang! I am faced with replacing the timing chain on my '81 300D, 207K miles, now at 6 degrees of stretch. Searching around I found articles and post to replace the chain. My concern, given the various guides, tensioner, rails and chain that are interlinked, what is normally replaced to do a proper chain replacement? Should for example the tensioner be automatically replaced or inspected and reused if good? Should all the rails be changed? Who would have the best prices for the parts? What are the necessary tools? What are the got you? Are there any good diesel chain replacement write-ups? Thanks in advance, Ted Lucas '81 300D, 207K, miles '87 300D, 190K, miles
Re: [MBZ] 93 500 SEL reliability off Topic
Jim Zavesky wrote: check the harness's behind the motor along the firewall in the plastic loom. ETA is significantly cheaper AND there is only one at 170kmi I'd check the chain, 150kmi is recommended to change the chain What is the ETA? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
[MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas
Larry wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions about my question of buying a used E320 Vs a
E300D.
Now that the discussion has turned into a comparision of gas Vs diesel
prices I guess I'll report on the prices around here (Va) - unleaded gas
is
around $2.45 with diesel even higher at $2.49.
Still not sure what I'll do with the E320 Vs E300D question. Losing
.$.05
cents per gallon plus a $5k lower purchase price makes the E320
attractive
until I consider repair prices. I'm confident I can work on the diesel
but
I'm not so sure about the gas engine.
Maybe I'll flip a coin. Even though deep down I *know* the diesel is
the
smart purchase in the long run even *with* a premium on the fuel...
Thanks again --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
Doesn't the E320 require premium? If so, how much difference does it
really make Premium Unleaded vs. Diesel?
Around my neck of the woods Diesel is much more expensive then a year
ago, but it is still cheaper by a few cents than premium.
I still think it is a no-brainer get the Diesel
Donald H. Snook
McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A.
300 West Douglas
P.O. Box 207
Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
Tel. (316) 263-5851
This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client
privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you
have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor
Mine is... Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor Yes...But is it normal for the low setting to be so low as to be almost imperceptible? On 8/15/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Thanks, Marshall. I recently changed the foam connector hose. My question was really how much action can you expect to get from the blower on the 'low' setting The low setting should be slower and thus move less air than the slowest speed of the 3 or 4 auto settings. The high setting will move MORE air than any speed of the auto setting. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Gas Vs Diesel - Choice of Vehicles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the suggestions about my question of buying a used E320 Vs a E300D. Now that the discussion has turned into a comparision of gas Vs diesel prices I guess I'll report on the prices around here (Va) - unleaded gas is around $2.45 with diesel even higher at $2.49. Still not sure what I'll do with the E320 Vs E300D question. Losing .$.05 cents per gallon plus a $5k lower purchase price makes the E320 attractive until I consider repair prices. I'm confident I can work on the diesel but I'm not so sure about the gas engine. Maybe I'll flip a coin. Even though deep down I *know* the diesel is the smart purchase in the long run even *with* a premium on the fuel... What about the difference in fuel consumption? The diesel can provide perhaps 32-35 mpg vs 25-27 mpg (?) for the E320. Fuel costs will be higher with the gas car until the price of diesel reaches 20% or so higher than for gas. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Right you are Randy I should have been more specific. I had an '88 GMC Jimmy S15 for years. The little 2.8l v6 was alot like driving a 240D (good practice) but it would get a solid 25mpg. My Dad had a Chevy Tracker (sadly dispatched by a Subaru wagon while sitting in the driveway) that did an honest 30mpg and was a heck of a woods truck. Even the 2 Jeep Libertys my folks have now are fairly frugal on fuel. The '95 Cherokee my Mom drove before getting the Liberty was a pig. Driven very gently it MIGHT get 19mpg. I hated it, in comparison to the S15 (which it replaced) it lost in every measure except power. That 4.0 is a powerful engine, but in the woods it hung up easy, in the snow it was all over the road, it rode like a buckboard and the interior fit and finish was awful. Plus it cost a bunch more. Anyway the ones I REALLY blame are the BIG SUVs and pickups with nobody in them. If you're a soccer mom with a carload of kids thats one thing. If you're driving your Escallade on your 100 mile commute alone everyday to heck with yeh. -Curt Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:56:49 -0700 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 SUV's all get lumped together. My Toyota 4Runner does about as well on gas as most mini-vans and nobody seems to write articles in the paper complaining about the gas used by the soccor mommies driving around in mini-vans. (how can you tell that irks me?) I can justify the 4Runner living up here in the great white north. 4 Wheel drive is worth its weight in gold during the winters. All wheel drive cars are out there but don't have any clearance. I can still get out when there is a foot of the white stuff in the lane. I had a Chevy Suburban previously and loved it. Haul anything you want and tow anything you want and haul up to 9 passengers with seat belts on. However, most of my driving is not loaded and I couldn't justify another one, hence the 4Runner. Randy in Winnipeg - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch
Theodore Lucas wrote: Hi gang! I am faced with replacing the timing chain on my '81 300D, 207K miles, now at 6 degrees of stretch. Searching around I found articles and post to replace the chain. My concern, given the various guides, tensioner, rails and chain that are interlinked, what is normally replaced to do a proper chain replacement? Should for example the tensioner be automatically replaced or inspected and reused if good? Should all the rails be changed? Who would have the best prices for the parts? What are the necessary tools? What are the got you? Are there any good diesel chain replacement write-ups? Thanks in advance, It is seldom necessary to replace more than the chain and tensioner until the engine is totally rebuilt. People that do most gasoline cars often argue that the guides on a diesel should be replaced, but few people that have extensive experience with diesel will replace them unless they are VERY worn (or unless the chain HAS broken). I usually replace the tensioner because I don't know of a really foolproof test to separate a perfect tensioner from one about to fail. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 93 500SEL Offtopic
It's loads of fun, trust me. :-) I have the same engine but in a lighter car (E500) with a few extra ponies from some intake exhaust mods. My best 1/4 mile time here at 2700' elevation was 13.86 @ 101.29mph... I'm itching to try it at sea level (expecting 13.6 @ 104mph, maybe.) I believe 'ETA' is 'Electronic Throttle Actuator', AKA the TBA (Throttle Body Actuator)... same thing, different names. About $1k for that part on an M119 engine. Luckily mine had it replaced just before I bought the car. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:48:09 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 93 500SEL Offtopic I did sort of wonder what it would like to drive this car with that much power and acceleration. I certainly can't drive it like I stole it. I get in enough trouble when I drive I drive my wife's V6 Explorer. Donald H. Snook 1990 300D 2.5 245K
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor
Thank you, Royce! Sometimes I raise really simple issues that require a simple answer. I feel better already On 8/16/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine is... Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor Yes...But is it normal for the low setting to be so low as to be almost imperceptible? On 8/15/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Thanks, Marshall. I recently changed the foam connector hose. My question was really how much action can you expect to get from the blower on the 'low' setting The low setting should be slower and thus move less air than the slowest speed of the 3 or 4 auto settings. The high setting will move MORE air than any speed of the auto setting. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch reply
Thanks Marshall for the reply. I feel more confident now to just replace the tensioner, chain and link to keep it simple. The two lower rails look to be a lot of work to replace and given they hold the shortest free length of chain, they should hold up the best. The tensioner rail appears to receive the bulk of the wear and I will inspect it and replace if worn. I will contact Rusty for the parts. Ted Lucas '81 300D, 207K, miles '87 300D, 190K, miles
Re: [MBZ] Carrying a good idea to extremes
Hey, let's have a contest and see how many layers of quote-backs we can stack up! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95 Message: 4 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi All, Normally, this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel - but with the increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and comparable E320s, I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy. Here's the deal: my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute. She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive. My 1st choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320. Also, the price of diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50. So, I have to factor in: -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high also) -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine -- the longer lifespan reduced maint of a diesel -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage. -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten? What do ya'll think??? Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a reasonable 96-99 E300D Thanks for your insight, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go -- Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [MBZ] hi-mile 140
Roger, you gotta be kiddin'! You mean to say that all them 500 engined MB's have engine guts problems? Oh those poor folks in their SL500's and E500's... Are you also saying that there are no MB's out there over 10 years old that haven't had an A/C problem? Just read on this List a few days ago that a new compressor was around 800.00 for a 201. Front suspension issues were addressed early on according to my MB printout with an upgrade as a goodwill fix. The offical fix was more than just a rebate on a new car purchase. And regarding the door suckers, big deal. It's a 500 dollar repair and you can fix it if you want, no big deal. Sure beats the heck out of the 3,000.00 leaking head gaskets on the 6 cylinder gas E class MB's from that era. And, BTW, most MB's of that era had lousy wiring harness's and weak evaporators. I may be whistling in the dark but I refuse to have a battle of wits with the unarmed. OTOH, these old wife's tales are great for us that see the need to obtain the last great MB built for a reasonable price. On 8/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Repairs are VERY expensive (because the car is complex). That IS NOT the reason why this particular car is best forgotten. An F-18 is complex. The Space Shuttle is complex. The fact is that the W140 has many underdesigned components that crap out time and again and WAAY before comparable bits in the rest of the product line do. Such as the front suspension, the AC components (the biggie), the engine guts, the door closers and pumps and on and on. Owners of these cars will defend them to the death, of course, whistling in the dark the whole time. Run away. RLE ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 1985 380SL
Re: [MBZ] Carrying a good idea to extremes
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:49:48 -0500 Dan Landiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, let's have a contest and see how many layers of quote-backs we can stack up! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95 Yes, indeed. But at least I trimmed a lot of stuff! Craig
Re: [MBZ] Carrying a good idea to extremes
Craig... I wish a lot more listers would trim a lot of stuff.. Sure does get in the way Thx... Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95 Yes, indeed. But at least I trimmed a lot of stuff! Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
hey mathieu ,i plan to move to atlanta,i need to good junk yard with planny mercedes cars ,and reasonable prices.or do you have good deals on mercedes. Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Here in Atlanta we are blessed with two such driveshaft shops that are up to this task. On my conversion, I had a true Euro 300d parts car so there was no need to modify the driveshaft. It was a purely bolt in affair. The N/A m617 with a manual trans behind it is really a nice driver. Steve, let me know what your questions are regarding the conversion. Mathieu Cama '67 250s (4 sale) '71 280se 5 speed '77 300d (soon to be 4 sale) '78 280slc 4 speed '82 280te '83 240d 3.0 4 speed '84 300d 5 speed '86 190e 2.3-16 At 11:10 AM 8/16/2005, you wrote: yes ,the only problem is that you to find a good driveshaft place to cut the drive shaft. John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I know that Craig McCluskey has, as has Mat Cama. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
Juan, I occasionally have cars for sale, but my mainstay is repair and mechanical restoration. There are recyclers here in the area that you should look into when you get into town. Every once in a while they have some interesting cars roll through. If by good deals you mean am I am the cheapest show in town?, then no. However for what I have to offer, my prices are fair and competative. Please check out my website at www.oldworldauto.com. When will you be arriving in Atlanta? We have a large MB community here. Regards, Mathieu At 05:42 PM 8/16/2005, you wrote: hey mathieu ,i plan to move to atlanta,i need to good junk yard with planny mercedes cars ,and reasonable prices.or do you have good deals on mercedes.
Re: [MBZ] 123 driveshaft
Take shaft complete should do it. Replace the flex disks if at all worn, they aren't all that expensive. Neither is a new carrier and center bearing. Do check the replacement shaft for a stiff joint before installing Peter
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
i did not said cheap ,but i meant good reasonable prices ,rememeber these cars are not new there are 20 years old or older,people always look for good deals not giving for free.good business people Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Juan, I occasionally have cars for sale, but my mainstay is repair and mechanical restoration. There are recyclers here in the area that you should look into when you get into town. Every once in a while they have some interesting cars roll through. If by good deals you mean am I am the cheapest show in town?, then no. However for what I have to offer, my prices are fair and competative. Please check out my website at www.oldworldauto.com. When will you be arriving in Atlanta? We have a large MB community here. Regards, Mathieu At 05:42 PM 8/16/2005, you wrote: hey mathieu ,i plan to move to atlanta,i need to good junk yard with planny mercedes cars ,and reasonable prices.or do you have good deals on mercedes. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch
Good writeup on Mercedesshop forum. You MUST have a chain swager or equivalent, you don't want to use a master link (I've heard of more than one failing). You can hold the chain in place by hand with a helper or with wire ties (vise grips work too, but are a PITA). Yes, I would replace a tensioner at 200,000 unless I KNEW it was good (easy to test, put it in a can of motor oil and press the finger down with a drill press -- once the air is out is should be VERY hard to depress. If easy, replace). Rails need to be changed if badly grooved. Peter
