Could this be tied to the situation yesterday with the wipers going slower
and slower?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula
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I decided to retry loosening the oil drain plug on the 190D tonight. This
time I grabbed it with the vice grips - the inner, rounded teeth part of
them. I clamped with just about all my hand strength. It seemed to slip at
first, but then, lo, the bolt turned!
Then, when I went to remove the filter
Don is reported to have said...
Modern locomotives have a nozzle that shoots sand down
on the wheels (trucks, for the railroad politically
correct) to add traction when
the computer senses that the wheels are slipping.
.
Actually
Okay, when adding another quart after running the engine for a couple
minutes post-oil change, I smelled a strange odor coming from the crankcase.
The best way I can describe it is something like window cleaner. (no, I
wasn't pouring oil in the windshield washer reservoir - beat ya to that
one).
On Dec 15, 2007, at 2:50 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:
This smell sound familiar? Boy, that sentence sounds weird - rather
- looks
weird.
Any thoughts?
Brian
some evil telfon based product?
I'd say you've some gallons of really cheap CF rated oil you'll need
to buy and run for 20 miles or
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:08:26 -0500 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
IIRC the pins were 90 degrees out of phase so that the bottoms of each
of the double acting cylinders strokes were evenly spaced over each
revolution. I seem to remember that
I believe Marvel Mystery Oil smells of Wintergreen.
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Home thank goodness.
Lap Band surgery went well. It was complicated by a gall bladder that
was about 5 years past it's Code Date surgeon said what would
usually take 1/2 hour required 1 1/2 hours.
Anyone who has been a flat rate mechanic knows that it's hard to make
the rate when working on an
Well we still are without power. They are saying we might get it back
by wednesday now. I do have a generator that is running basics. I was
able to get online to see what kind of mail I have, which is piling up.
Anybody who is waiting for parts I will get to you ASAP as soon as
power
Good post, thanks. I must make a decision this Spring as to what to run in
the old 911 as my stock of old formula 20W/50 was used up with my last oil
change. I'm leaning towards the Rotella T.
Ed
300E
911SC
other stuff.
A quote from the article The newly formulated Mobil 1 EP 15W-50 SM
A couple weeks ago when the battery went bad the dome light would go totally
out.
Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I
should say) but nothing but the solenoid click.
You guys have got me paranoid, I'm going to go put the battery charger on...
After my
Sorry to hear that you're still without. We were fortunate that ours
came back relativity soon.
How are the new kids holding up? Any damage to your property from the
falling limbs?
On Dec 15, 2007 10:46 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well we still are without power. They are
I actually do have one now, but I cant do any shipping until the power
comes back on (wednesday supposedly)
John Robbins wrote:
I've asked Kaleb for one, but he is obviously preoccupied at the
moment... I need to get one soon enough for me to install it by
Christmas so I can use the 300D
I have GOT to build a generator out of that stationary 617 I have. What
all would be involved I wonder. Just get a gen head and hook it up via
belt or something? What about some sort of control panel?
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E
Thats funny that you mention it. I had to fix a clogged up toilet. Its
because they have not been flushing it. You see, everywhere they have
been you dont flush the toilet because there is no running water. As
far as the admin thing, that should be fixed by now.
Wonko the Sane wrote:
One of
The adelphia address is not subscribed to this list, at least when I
just checked it.
Barry Stark wrote:
You guys think it's strange, so do I...yes it's true I hadn't checked my
mailbox for 3 days but I didn't get any messages that said I was over the
limit from roadrunner, my ISP for about 2
I'm one to try to look at the positive. Kaleb, I heard more bad weather
expected for you in OK?
Who knows? Being without power is an inconvenience and interrupts business
but maybe it's a good buffer from the outside world to give you and (new)
family some time for adjustment. Hope all is well.
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I actually do have one now, but I cant do any shipping until the power
comes back on (wednesday supposedly)
Thats fine... I figured out why the one you sent me the first time
didn't work. Its for a W126 body which apparently has a lower PS system
pressure. There is
I have GOT to build a generator out of that stationary 617 I have.
What
all would be involved I wonder. Just get a gen head and hook it up via
belt or something? What about some sort of control panel?
It can be fairly simple, but you do need RPM control. Harbor Freight
has a cheapie 10kW
Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries
at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click.
It usually takes two people, but you should take a voltmeter and
connect it between the center post (not the cable clamp) of the
battery + and the starter motor's
motor locked up?
Curt Raymond wrote:
'85 190D won't start. Specifically it won't crank. I hit the key, the
solenoid clicks and nothing happens.
I don't think its the battery: A. The battery is less than a month old and B.
The lights come on and look normal and C. A jump with a boostpack
Kids holding up fine. Will take some adjustment on everyones part
though. No damage here, just lots of limbs to clean up.
OK Don wrote:
Sorry to hear that you're still without. We were fortunate that ours
came back relativity soon.
How are the new kids holding up? Any damage to your
yea, its snowing right now. I suppose the isolation is somewhat good
now. I didnt really feel like trying to check mail but figured I better.
Timothy Robinson wrote:
I'm one to try to look at the positive. Kaleb, I heard more bad weather
expected for you in OK?
Who knows? Being without
So the engine would have to be running at 3600 rpm? That would be
pretty high I would think. Would think running the 617 at 1800 would be
better and more fuel efficient. This 617 already has wierd throttle
control on the IP, I guess to hold a certain rpm.
Jim Cathey wrote:
I have GOT to
YEA-BUT ... he is in Mass and I am in Iowa. There is a great gulf fixed
between.
Update on my 240D cold weather behavior (not starting). Hurst (and probably
some more) nailed it on the head. One bad glow plug, the one at the rear of
the engine. Everything should be okay now. ... Difficult to tell
We are very fortunate - power came on this afternoon, still on after
the second time. Knocking on wood - hoping that it stays on through
the night.
MB related picture from the storm - after Kaleb approves it.
On Dec 11, 2007 9:33 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In doesn't rain but
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Server seemed a bit busy, so did not watch it yet. How cool he has that
web site! I saw a piece on some car show the other morning, with that
guy who has a big mustache, them driving this Bentley thing he built,
had 2 blowers, a 16? It was fast as hell and looked and
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:47:45
In the past I rewired a Volvo diesel ( 1983) by using a Telemechanique
pushbutton switch with a 12 volt bulb. The switch had two
circuits. I wired one directly to the bulb and battery the other went
to activate the relay which activated the glow plugs. I used 18 guage
wire to the relay. The
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So the engine would have to be running at 3600 rpm?
Belt drive, use whatever ratio you want. I think that the timing device
hits full advance between 2000 and 2200, so I would try to run the
engine at least that fast.
Mitch.
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Hi,
I have to say it is a pleasent sweet smell.
In Gas engines.
In Diesel it smells better than plain diesel. But still stinks.
It makes wvo improve slightly.
Ed in snowing Chicago
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe Marvel Mystery Oil smells of Wintergreen.
That could be a really cool wallpaper. Can you send me a higher resolution
version (1024x) at my other email address?
On Dec 11, 2007 7:58 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are very fortunate - power came on this afternoon, still on after
the second time. Knocking on wood - hoping that it
Most of the belt-driven/direct coupled generator heads I've seen require
3,600 RPM. I'd always heard an advantage of the some diesel gensets was the
slower, 1,800 RPM speed for sound and long term wear and tear.
There are PTO generators which use pto from tractors at 540 RPM input.
They're
I have this 4k generator running now which will run about anything I
need, have it hooked up via extension cords. Will be needing to do
laundry soon and it will run the washer I am sure but cant see anyway to
hook the electric drier up to it. Anyway of hooking it into the house
power quick
Technically, there is. :) As a licensed guy here, I usually cringe when I
hear people talk of back-feeding through the dryer outlet, etc.. At least
you have the sense though to know why to trip the main breaker.
I'm assuming the 4KW generator has a 20AMP 120/240 outlet? Usually on
electric
Done.
On Dec 15, 2007 2:37 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That could be a really cool wallpaper. Can you send me a higher resolution
version (1024x) at my other email address?
On Dec 11, 2007 7:58 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are very fortunate - power came on this
I just got this little guy a month ago after owning various gassers
and its a real treat to drive, one question I have, the temp gauge
doesn't get past 60c and oil pres pops right up to 3 and stays there.
These are probably trivial but I've taken an interest in this car
and will be asking lots of
Received. Thanks.
On Dec 15, 2007 3:17 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Done.
On Dec 15, 2007 2:37 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That could be a really cool wallpaper. Can you send me a higher
resolution
version (1024x) at my other email address?
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LT Don
No belt. Just go direct coupled with a standard SAE
bellhousing. You can buy off the shelf alternators
(generators) that will bolt right up to a standard SAE
bellhousing, which I am sure can be found for that
engine.
Then you'll need some sort of governor and the usual
shutdown safeties, which
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the temp gauge doesn't get past 60c
Seems a bit low, I think your thermostat should start opening closer
to 70C.
My 190e, which seems to be operating properly, struggles to hit 70C in
freezing weather, peaks out at about 75C on a hard freeway run. I think
it uses a
Assuming 3 is the top of your oil pressure gauge, then that is what it
should do. You might see a drop at idle, and that too is normal, especially
if you are running the list-recommended (by many) Mobil 1 oil.
Not sure about the temp gauge. It should get to what the thermostat calls
for and stay
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/51075.html
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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So the engine would have to be running at 3600 rpm? That would be
pretty high I would think. Would think running the 617 at 1800 would
be
better and more fuel efficient. This 617 already has wierd throttle
control on the IP, I guess to hold a certain rpm.
These engines are happiest at
'Just made a key top of black walnut. 'Don't need the key - 'have plenty of
others. 'Did it just to prove to myself that I can. Considering that a few
months ago my hand tremor was so bad I could hardly do anything, it's
amazing I'm able to do the little intricate stuff to make the key top, but
Wow! 15K for a NA 300D? It may only have 30Kmi on it, but all of the
rubber bits from the door/window/trunk seals to the engine mounts and susp
bushings still age with time. I guess I'll have to pass on this one. :-)
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300Sd 266Kmi, Ursula
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:08:26 -0500 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
IIRC the pins were 90 degrees out of phase so that the bottoms of each
of the double acting cylinders strokes were evenly spaced over each
revolution. I seem to remember that
Take a pic and send it along! I got my CNC running, might have to make
some myself!
--R
wilton strickland wrote:
'Just made a key top of black walnut. 'Don't need the key - 'have plenty of
others. 'Did it just to prove to myself that I can. Considering that a few
months ago my hand
Maybe but I doubt it. In that case ice had built up under the counterweight. In
the morning I removed that ice and all was well.
I put the charger on for about an hour this afternoon, the 4amp setting
produced less than 2 amps on the meter. I don't think the battery was
discharged
I wouldn't worry about it.
But to find out whats going on in the engine theres only one word you need to
know analysis, as in oil analysis.
www.youroil.net Larry would love to hear from you.
Speaking of which I need to get on the stick and put in an order.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007
This may be a good, cheap driver or a money pit, anyone's guess.
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/510126760.html
It does have an ATS rebuilt tranny in it which, IIRC, didn't have a good
reputation.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula
What did you use to hold it to the key? I have a key with half the top
still attached. What's the best way to get the old top off before
installing a new one?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula
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What is a CNc?
I got my CNC running,
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A Computer Numerical Control machine. In my case, I mounted a small
router on a frame with motors that can move it in the X Y Z directions.
Stepper motors controlled by a motor controller, which is in turn
controlled by some PC software, allow one to take CAD (computer-aided
drafting)
It seems than at Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:35:58 -0600, Rich wrote:
You can cut all kinds of shapes, letters, signs, wood parts,
engrave things, convert photos to relief engravings, and lots
more. I am still learning to use it, but have made a few
things already. I have to do a Benz 3pt star
Last week I treated the daily driver ('85 300D 323K+ mi) to a stay with the
indy. I got a list of things repaired that I wouldn't have been able to
accomplish. There's certainly a noticable difference in handling with the
new front end. Otherwise, there was no reason to expect the car to actually
'Drilled/routed out the slot for the key with Dremel. Top or base of the
key itself has wings that curve out a bit around the base of the hole (but
not past the hole) in the original top. I filed the sides/tips of the
wings down a bit to keep the mounting slot from being quite so wide. Key
is
There are changes happening with both Mobil 1 and Delvac 1, and NOT necessarily
good changes for older engines.
Mobil has an FAQ page about this on their site:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Zinc_Motor_Oils.aspx
and a PDF listing phosphorus levels for their oils
BTW, this afternoon, I was thinking about applying a star in some manner
to the side of the walnut key top - engrave, inlay, etc. 'Can easily do it
the way I put a small scooter icon on my scooter charger switch in the car -
printed icon on paper in reverse (black around white icon), punched out
Wow -- thanks. I have played with it a bit, converted it to DXF then
loaded in my program that makes Gcode, it takes a bit of manipulation to
get the thing to learn where to cut out. More later!
--R
Fmiser wrote:
It seems than at Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:35:58 -0600, Rich wrote:
You can
It is not uncommon to identify a marked improvement when running on a
biodiesel or biodiesel mix. However, one must be careful in that the
biodiesel will clean out a lot of the old gunk left in your fuel system by
the petrol diesel you are used to. With continued use it may prove
beneficial
I don't know about the environment part -- a lot of the bio-d is being
made from food crops (soybeans) that take a lot of dino to grow
(fertilizer, fuel) and then to turn into bio-d (transport, refining),
and is driving up food prices when diverted. Also, a lot of rainforest
(cf. Indonesia)
Sounds great! Does yours do the same stuff as the one Sears is selling?
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921754000P?vName=ToolscName=Bench+Power+Tools
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Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
I thought that bioDiesel has a little less energy per gallon than
dino. Is the performance improvement due to cleaning?
On Dec 15, 2007 8:01 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not uncommon to identify a marked improvement when running on a
biodiesel or biodiesel mix.
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OK Don,
While certainly not an expert myself, my understanding is that biodiesel
will provide a little higher cetane level yet simultaneously will not
provide quite as good mileage. One should also note a less noisy engine
and less smoking upon start up with bio than with petro diesel products.
With
Dave,
One repair was made last wee, because of a clogged vent the tank had
imploded even to the point of crushing the fuel sending unit. A new tank
wasn't feasible but for 1/3 the cost a tank was pulled which had actually
been running bio. While in the process, that tank was pressure cleaned and
I would enjoy reading that article if you can locate it again.
I have been offered a fantastic deal on soybeans to produce my biodiesel
with several times in the past. But, lets see what the real cost would be?
Soy beans grown in South America via the use of petrol diesel machinery then
Tim,
I would be interested in your formulary for creating the cleaner. I am
having limited success in that department.:)
Dave H...
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From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion
Gee... suddenly I feel guilty buying bio and realising that the cost of masa
flour goes up as a result. Actually, I've heard that some cultures are
hurting because coomodities such as corn are diverted for fuel production
thus the cost of a burrito goes up. (No sarcastic inflection there!)
I like
Heck, after having been so dry with the mist/atmospheric conditions maybe
there's more oxygen in the air and combustion was improved?
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:37:10 -0600
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Thats some good thinking, I should have checked that before we strapped the car
to the Jeep.
But no it is not locked up, with a jump it drove me home...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:51:37 -0600
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GR!
To: Mercedes Discussion
snip I'm middle aged (only 49). snip sprouts that I grew in my little
hydroponic set-up...
I will 49 in Feb. Back in the day I grew plants in hydroponics, but they
weren't, uh, sprouts LOL
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Dave,
I have no 'formula for a cleaner. I just think that the lye soap which
retains the glycerin is not only kinder to the skin as it hydrates but it
seems to cut grease better. A regular bar of commercial handsoap hardly
makes suds when my hands are covered in grease. The lye soap seems to cut
LOL... h and another threat was discussing generating electricity...
grow lights?
Nope... just alfalfa and wheat grass. Lord knows I'm obsessive and
compulsive. There are some habits I never allowed myself to explore,
thankfully.
From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes
My 190D reads just like my 240D did, just a bit above the 80C mark. Sits pretty
consistantly once its come up to temp.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:51:21 -0500
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 190d 2.2 manny
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Not more oxygen, but more water -- adds to the pressure in the
combustion chamber? Not sure that this holds when the water is already
a vapor.
On Dec 15, 2007 9:40 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heck, after having been so dry with the mist/atmospheric conditions maybe
there's
Mercedes designed the oil pressure gauge to only read the low end of
the scale, and to peg at normal operating pressures. It varies between
the different engines, but there is a lower limit for oil pressure at
idle for an engine at full operating temperature. The Mercedes
technical data book for
I just found the section on engine cooling - the thermostat in your
engine should begin opening at 85C +/- 2, and at 94C it should be open
8mm.
This is a fascinating little book.
On Dec 15, 2007 3:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got this little guy a month ago after owning various
If anyone has a valid carfax account, can you please run the following VIN:
WDBGA70E1SA261326
Thanks in advance,
Tarek
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Very similar, the CarveWright moves the work piece longitudinally while
the cutter moves Y and X. Their software is pretty good, the machine has
some limits but some good features.. I know those guys, they are some
ex-NASA Johnson guys who started their company 3 or 4 yr ago. I know 4
or 5
A solenoid click followed by dimming lights and warm or hot battery
cables is a locked up starter motor, the typical failure mode on these
engines. I've replaced two so far (different cars) -- they crank slow
for a day or two, then lock up solid.
There is no alternative to replacement.
Peter
You don't have anywhere near enough power to run the dryer (unless it's
gas) -- don't even try.
Peter
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You should check the actual temperature of the engine, but likely the
thermostat is bad. Right side of the engine, not bad with a non-turbo.
The oil pressure gauge pops up to 3 bar when you turn the key on? Wire
shorted or bad pressure sender, its below the oil filter housing, check
wire.
The cold, misty weather gives you more power from greater expansion of
extra water vapor in the engine (I'm not kidding), and the biodiesel
burns better than regular diesel (although you use a bit more). I
suspect most of the difference is in the new front end not dragging,
though.
Peter
Several decades ago I found myself working a temp position at a factory
which made office furniture. I was amazed at the precision of the machines
which produced the components. Tolerances were measured by caliper and a
minute adjustment was accomplished by digital entry. Suddenly a machine
forty
You know, I thought about doing that. But I have to ask myself what I'd do
with bad news. I am not prepared to put any money into the vehicle. So maybe
I'll stay blissfully ignorant? Hmmm.
Brian
On Dec 15, 2007 4:03 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it.
But to
Actually, as with any appliance you'd check the actual load on the
faceplate.
Correct... if the element is 5000W a 4K generator isn't gonna provide enough
power. If the wattage on the element is only nom. 3,000 plus the load of the
motor, about 1/3 hp.. it could be done.
Yep, standard branch
Yes, my 190D runs the same temperature, and I understand that it's too low
which can affect fuel mileage and engine wear. I need to get a new
thermostat in there.
I have been wondering, though, is that middle mark between 80 and the lowest
mark indeed 60? You never know how gauges are laid out. ??
Actually, front end work was about 300 miles prior. The big difference in
performance coincided with the B20 and the weather. I suspect you're quite
right that the water vapor was the key factor.
From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
throwing the bread together last night in my old KitchenAid I thought, Gee,
my mixer is older than most of the guys who work for me. My cars are as old
as a few.
Funny that this discussion should come up. As I was prepping the food
processor to grind up some walnuts, I was thinking that this
greater expansion of
extra water vapor in the engine (I'm not kidding),
The topic of water injection came up on the other mercedes list as well. Is
that the same reason that it supposedly works?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula
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Gang,
Just wanted to update everyone about the W108 280SEL 4.5 (aka der blaue
Engel) that I acquired in the autumn.
The car has been enjoying a few weeks of spa treatment at Mercedes Werkstatt in
Mountain View, CA. Aside from the core business of refurb'ing MB transmissions,
steering and
David,
You weren't actually looking for a car that needed work etc and you bought
a early 70's Mercedes? I'd hate to say this but every older Mercedes I've
ever bought needed at least $1,000 - $2,000 worth of parts during the first
three months I've owned it and I am pretty critical about what I
And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little
change or two in the behaviors of us all.
No tree hugging here. But I do shake my head often at what I see around me.
Maybe folks don't have to give up their Suburban or big 4x4 - I mean that's
not going to happen. (heck,
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