Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-22 Thread Levi Smith
it is freakin step? My old 240D would get 15mph up most of itBBBLLLAAAIII fast. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who../BT4

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-21 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:50:51 -0500 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no reason not to put a manual transmission behind a 5 cyl turbo. Especially if your doing a major engine shuffle like that! There were discussions on the list back in 2001 - 2002 (when it was run by Richard Sexton)

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? Ours hauls our camper around, and/or the car trailer. Also anything heavy (such as a 2600# generator) that I acquire any distance away. (Heinously ratty local stuff I use the rusted-out Chevy pickup for.) Rarely used for just

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
with 175k but I woulnt think so. At this same lot, they have a 05 F250 Powerstroke , crew cab, for $18,900. Thats DIRT CHEAP. Only problem is that its got 150K miles on it. Thats ALOT of miles for a 1 year old truck. Anybody know anything about these newer powerstrokes? Early 6.0's are

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
What kind of mileage will the cummins turn in? Unloaded and with the taller gears, 20+. I can get 25-26 out of mine unloaded, on stock tires at about 58 MPH. My dad's 04 beats 20 if he keeps the speed down a bit. My worst was 9, camper on, wife driving, floored into a headwind. (Rear tire

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
There were a few years in there where a killer dowel pin can come off inside the timing cover and obliterate the engine. It could be fixed by welding a tab over the pin or possibly removing it. I'm not sure if this applies to the 24V engines from 1998.5 to 2002 or the latest generation

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
Well, I'd say run, don't walk from the 2003 6.0, it took them a while to sort it out. The 7.3 never did get sorted out, the cause of cackle and knock was the way Ford dead-ended the fuel rails without any way for air to return to the tank, it stayed in the rails until it went through an injector.

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-21 Thread kevin kraly
but they seem to have some serious engine design problems. (I'm told with the Ford component of the design mix, not the Navistar parts.) And they stonewall, so you have to keep your ear to the ground. Since I've been intending on replacing my manny tranny truck with an auto-equipped one, I

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-21 Thread kevin kraly
The KDP cracks the timing case, no obliteration. Engine generally continues to run unaffected, but leaks oil badly. Spendy to fix, a lot of labor involved. I knew that it obliterated something, much of one's budget! Of course, anytime a vehicle is in the shop at $85-100/Hr, things add up in

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-21 Thread Mike Canfield
flywheel is balanced to it's engine is this true? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who../BT4 in M37 On Tue, 20 Jun 2006

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
Hmm, then either my 83' 300D is an odd combination or there's some other reason, 'cause when it shifts from 1st to second, it definitely drops out of the turbo's range. I've got a hill that sucks, 'cause it will rev right up through 1st no problem, but as soon as it hits second it will

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-21 Thread Levi Smith
Well, I haven't officially clocked the 0-60mph time, but I'm thinking it's under 20 seconds. It certainly doesn't feel REAL slow on a flat surface. The only time it's a problem is catching the big hills at slow speeds. This particular hill is probably something like a 600-800' rise over a

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Cathey
I am tempted to take a look at the Alda though. I've heard it mentioned lots of times, but I've never gotten around to actually figuring out where it is (I know it's more or less on the back of the IP) and how exactly to go about adjusting it. It has a hose coming out of it that goes to a

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
for a snowmobile and luggage... -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:02:44 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, true David Brodbeck wrote: John Berryman wrote: On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. What about putting a cap on it? That's fine, unless you're planning on hauling a 5th wheel.

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-20 Thread Fmiser
At some time fairly close to Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:00:48 -0400, rumor has it that Mike wrote: Philip, Yep a BT4 would be sweet. I have been thinking of swapping in a MBZ diesel. I found a 76 240D 4 speed with only 65K DOCUMENTED original miles but am afraid it will be too gutless for the

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
If you keep an eye on some of the truck sites, those things show up used fairly regularly for around a grand or less., still cheaper than buying a new truck. -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, if you want to spend about 4k on one of those. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Well, the

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
any recomendation for a truck site that something like this may show up one, or, what sort of ebay search would yield said piece of equipment? Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: If you keep an eye on some of the truck sites, those things show up used fairly regularly for around a grand or less.,

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread mykd1
-Original Message- From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:47:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 10:09:34PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote: Can you say Flowerchoke? Dude, get a real

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
11:47:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 10:09:34PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote: Can you say Flowerchoke? Dude, get a real engine. Get a Cummins. I smack talk my powerchoke all the time, since I really wanted a truck with a real injector pump and without

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread mykd1
PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:16:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? the 6.5 is a good engine. Its only real weakness is the IP and electronic controller, neither of which is real expensive to replace. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Mike wrote: 1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily driverLOLOL

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that if I do sell my truck and get something different Im just going to get one of them car hauling ramp trucks, with the long 20' or whatever flat bed on the back. That way I could haul 2 cars if I

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread mykd1
List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:41:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? A powerstroke make walk all over the 6.5, but the 6.5 is MUCH cheaper and easier to work on. Has plenty of power for my needs Mike Canfield wrote: Durajunk..If you want a truck in the shop

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread mykd1
] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:41:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 08:02:44PM -0400, John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? the 6.5 is a good engine. Its only real weakness is the IP and electronic controller, neither of which is real expensive to replace. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 6.5 is anything but light duty. After all these years of being the engine of choice for a H1

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Here's one of the chebby diesel sites that stays pretty active http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/index.php This site here has a gear vendors listed in the classifieds section for $1500 with a turbo 400 tranny adapter http://www.thedieselpage.com/ There are a bunch of other sites, but I can't

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread mykd1
. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:02:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? There is a turbo version in the hummer also. From what I have been told you want to avoid those though as the turbo sits right against the head

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Canfield
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that if I do sell my truck and get something different Im just going to get one of them car hauling ramp trucks, with the long 20' or whatever flat bed on the back. That way I could

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Canfield
HAHAHAHA.The gear vendors overdrive costs more than a 6.2 Burban is worth. Mike - Original Message - From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Canfield
You're right..She lives in a 4 mile long town.All flat from her house to the store. Pitiful! Mike - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Hummer's a DOG!

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Canfield
: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? The 6.5 is anything but light duty. After all these years of being the engine of choice for a H1 Hummer it can take a beating and still keep going. Even with a 7.62mm AK round in the engine block Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Canfield
. Maybe a 5 cyl turbo would have enough but I really want to stick with a manual tranny. Mike - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Canfield
Nice thing to tell an irate $50K truck owner. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? When you think about it there isn't one of these diesel trucks that won't spend time

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, could be. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only the civilian version of the H1 uses a turbo. The military version is normally aspirated due to the reliability of the turbo in harsh conditions Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im not talking about a rollback or a wrecker. Even if it was a rollback or wrecker, if its not for hire the insurance is no different than any other car. Mike Canfield wrote: Until you figure in the special high priced insurance for a vehicle designed to haul cars. Rollbacks and wreckers

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Hummer's a DOG!

2006-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Dr Dan has a hummer, real hummer. Doesnt seem like a dog to me. It does what its designed to do. Not cruise down the highway at 80 Mike Canfield wrote: And you think the H1 has enough power with the 6.5 The Hummer is a DOG with that engine. Seems the military would be smart enough by

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond
but that'd have to be an extended cab, not enough space in the bed for a snowmobile and luggage... -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:02:44 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Canfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? Im not talking about a rollback or a wrecker. Even if it was a rollback or wrecker, if its not for hire the insurance is no different

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Nissan diesel with some power... Who was it was getting one put in an F150? I'm still dying to know how that comes out. -Curt Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:00:48 -0400 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who../BT4 in M37 To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. What about putting a cap on it? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-19 Thread Smith, Todd
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:44 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who../BT4 in M37 Apparently the 4BT in an M37 is a fairly popular swap. Theres a guy online whom I can't find now that does them with a brand new engine

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Hummer's a DOG!

2006-06-19 Thread David Brodbeck
Mike Canfield wrote: And you think the H1 has enough power with the 6.5 The Hummer is a DOG with that engine. Seems the military would be smart enough by now to use a Cummins. I'd guess freeway speed wasn't their major concern. Military vehicles are almost always slow by civilian

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread David Brodbeck
John Berryman wrote: On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. What about putting a cap on it? That's fine, unless you're planning on hauling a 5th wheel.

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond
only have 2 cars (nowhere to park more) and my wife only goes a few miles every day. -Curt Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:08:47 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-19 Thread Smith, Todd
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 13:06 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who../BT4 in M37 Hi Todd, Thats great news! Any idea why the starters won't last? Do you know what kind of HP

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-19 Thread Smith, Todd
Hello Robert, I hope that it just a bad rebuilder but we will see in a few days so see if it outlasts the others before problems start. I may have to try a different starter or source an OEM to see if it makes a difference. Todd Smith '85 300CD 248K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who....../BT4 in M37

2006-06-19 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 19, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Smith, Todd wrote: I don't have any clues as what to look for but if this one fails then no more remanned starters for me. When I am under the truck with my wife turning the key, there is a loud click as the starter tries to engage but no bendix movement.

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mitch Haley
John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? My buddy's 2001 F250 club cab has towed horses and forklifts all across the country, the back seat gets used mainly for storage. It's nice to have a place in the cab for an ice chest and a couple of

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
to agree the Chebbie is the most comfortable ride of the 3. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Thats funny someone whould mentiion the powerstroke walking all over

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? My buddy's 2001 F250 club cab has towed horses and forklifts all across the country, the back seat gets used mainly for storage. It's nice to

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its insane to spend that much on a used truck, much less 40k or more for a new one. For the price of an 04 like I am looking at you can buy a hell of a nice s-class, or would be cheaper to buy a nice 99 E300 John Berryman wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Mike Canfield wrote: 1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Thats funny someone whould mentiion the powerstroke walking all over the Chevy DM. Sorry guys, just not possible. The powerchoke as you call it makes less horsepower and only few ft.lbs of torque more than the DM

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
I picked up my 92 f350 diesel crew cab for hauling a 5th wheel camper and for gathering and hauling barrels of waste veg oil. I needed the crew cab with three young'uns. http://photos.thedieselstop.com/showphoto.php?photo=29666 I do enjoy the flatbed, makes loading and unloading things a lot

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its insane to spend that much on a used truck, much less 40k or more for a new one. For the price of an 04 like I am looking at you can buy a hell of a nice s-class, or

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: there's no way I'd even consider dropping 30 grand on a pickup truck, you could buy a used semi with a small engine and convert it to an rv for a whole lot less money and get better fuel milage ) --Robert It just baffles me

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
fuel/gas prices aren't high enough yet. Every day I see someone in a parking lot with their 6,000+ lb suv/pickup idling while they go inside for 5, 10 mins or so. Then there's also the people who sit in the parking lot at work during their lunch hour with the engine running. Sheesh, when

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
That's not much of a compliment, considering how he looks. On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:08:43 -0500, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Bob Rentfro
mad until some blivit ran a red light and, well ...you know the rest. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread David Brodbeck
John Berryman wrote: It just baffles me how many people shell-out the big bucks and launch their boat 3 times a year and then just drive it to work every day. Same folks are pissin' and moanin' about fuel prices. Makes no cents to me. In rural areas I've lived in, where

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread kevin kraly
Our Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins diesel 6spd quadcab pickup pulls our 8000# travel trailer and our 19' boat. It also hauls gear around to our dragon boat races all around the Northwest. It's hauled home exercise equipment, bikes, furniture, a freezer, nothing a smaller truck couldn't do, but it's

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:37 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: In rural areas I've lived in, where parking ordinances weren't a problem, it was pretty common for people to have a rusty old truck for snow plowing and the occasional hauling or boat launching job. If it was a *really* rural area the truck

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread kevin kraly
HHR? Yeah, it's that little Chevy car that's designed after a 1949 Suburban. It's competition is the PT Cruiser, but I think it's much better in every way, ride, power, quietness, fit and finish, and the design, IMO. Here's a link to some HHR info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_HHR

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Rick Knoble
I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. I inherited an '83 S10 from my brother in March. I was gonna sell it, but then I need to haul some wood chips and compost so it looks like I will be keeping it. My kids also race bmx and it is really convenient jist to pitch

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb I should have told you last month when a very unique vehicle was advertised in the 5k range. It was a 7.3 PS E350,

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Harry Watkins
17, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:37 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: In rural areas I've lived in, where parking ordinances weren't a problem, it was pretty common for people to have a rusty old truck for snow plowing

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? A powerstroke make walk all over the 6.5, but the 6.5 is MUCH cheaper and easier to work on. Has plenty of power for my needs Mike Canfield wrote: Durajunk..If you want a truck in the shop all the time go ahead and buy one. I speak from

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
that and it's very common. Mike - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Robert

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Canfield
OUCH!! That stinks. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? I work with men who have too much money. Nearly all

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 18, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. Yeah, the stick has to help the mpgs a bit. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Well, the burb probably dogs out due to the rear end ratio. The trick to compensate for that is to get one of those gear vendors over/underdrive units. you will get an extra overdrive for highway cruising and get even better fuel milage when not loaded down , but when towing you can

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Kevin
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 08:02:44PM -0400, John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread Zeitgeist
Good questions. I generally despise pickup trucks, especially the kind that are all prissed up and prettified to the extent that they cease to maintain any utility whatsoever. I've always preferred vans to trucks; probably always will. My vans have hauled nearly everything everything I've ever

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?

2006-06-18 Thread kevin kraly
Two eagle wagons (unstoppable in snow), Yeah! We had a 1982 Eagle with the big 258 C.I 4.2L I6 with a 5spd behind it, and it was one of the best snow cars we've ever had! It was about 9 years ago, and we paid $2K for it. However, the main seal and clutch went out soon after purchase with

[MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So I went looking for a new truck yesterday. My current truck a 95 1 ton dually 6.5 td doesnt really have room for the whole family being a single cab. Though it would be nice to have an extended cab if I wanted to haul everyone around. So I been keeping an eye out for a newer Duramax. A

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
Can you say Flowerchoke? Dude, get a real engine. Get a Cummins. On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:46:13 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I went looking for a new truck yesterday. My current truck a 95 1 ton dually 6.5 td doesnt really have room for the whole family being a

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Mitch Haley
A $30k truck with 150k on it for only 19K? The engine should be fine if maintained, but what about the rest of the truck? What do you think a three year old truck with 180k on it will be worth in a year? Do you want to lose that much value that fast? I just checked, a 2007 crew XL LB with 6.0,

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread kevin kraly
Luther, I couldn't agree more! I've got an 03 Dodge Cummins pickup with a 6spd, and I've decided to give it up for a pickup with an automatic since my wife and I have a few different people who drive it (what a shame they don't give blind people licenses hahaha)! I've ridden in the Ford

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
As far as milage, the ENGINE on the powerchoke is designed for 500k service life...don't count on getting that out of the electronics on the thing though, which by the way, absoloutely nobody, especially the ford dealers , know anything about, but they will be more than happy to charge you $95

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/17/06 12:14 AM, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also a 91 Dodge with 5sp, towing bed and sleeper in Elkhart that you could probably get for $4k. Been for sale for a couple of weeks now. http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetailadname=CIM4091598D Kaleb, what

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread mykd1
] To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:46:13 -0500 Subject: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? So I went looking for a new truck yesterday. My current truck a 95 1 ton dually 6.5 td doesnt really have room for the whole family being a single cab. Though it would be nice

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/16/06 9:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 05 F250 Powerstroke , crew cab, for $18,900. Thats DIRT CHEAP. Only problem is that its got 150K miles on it. Thats ALOT of miles for a 1 year old truck. Anybody know anything about these newer powerstrokes? Is that too

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would love to, the package its wrapped in it junk though. I would rather stick with chevy anyway. What will probably end up happening is I will just sell my truck and get an extended cab/crew cab about like what I already have, around a 95-99. Luther Gulseth wrote: Can you say

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The truck is in real good shape. It used to have a gooseneck hitch in the back so my bet is that it was used for hot shots. Wonder if those guys maintain their trucks like the should, I would think so. Mitch Haley wrote: A $30k truck with 150k on it for only 19K? The engine should be fine

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What kind of mileage will the cummins turn in? What years to watch out for, which are best? What about the tranny? Have they got that problem fixed yet? kevin kraly wrote: Luther, I couldn't agree more! I've got an 03 Dodge Cummins pickup with a 6spd, and I've decided to give it up for

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
Get a manny tranny, solves that problem. On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:17:33 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of mileage will the cummins turn in? What years to watch out for, which are best? What about the tranny? Have they got that problem fixed yet? -- Luther

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
There's a few different schools of thought on maintnence. The hot shots, if full timers are generally trading every couple of years to keep a new truck on the road ( for a number of reasons, for one, most companies don't want to lease on older equipment and the tax benefits ) so many just do

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Mike Canfield
, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? I would love to, the package its wrapped in it junk though. I would rather stick with chevy anyway. What will probably end up happening is I will just sell my truck and get an extended cab/crew cab about like what I already have, around a 95-99

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread George Gregory
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Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread kevin kraly
There were a few years in there where a killer dowel pin can come off inside the timing cover and obliterate the engine. It could be fixed by welding a tab over the pin or possibly removing it. I'm not sure if this applies to the 24V engines from 1998.5 to 2002 or the latest generation

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Mike Canfield wrote: If you get a Ford get the 7.3 PowerchokeStay away from the 6.0. Well, I'd say run, don't walk from the 2003 6.0, it took them a while to sort it out. The 7.3 never did get sorted out, the cause of cackle and knock was the way Ford dead-ended the fuel rails without

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats funny someone whould mentiion the powerstroke walking all over the Chevy DM. Ever since people started getting 400+hp out of the old 160hp rotary pump Cummins, it has been much less an issue of what motor you have and more of an issue of what changes have

Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?

2006-06-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats funny someone whould mentiion the powerstroke walking all over the Chevy DM. Sorry guys, just not possible. The powerchoke as you call it makes less horsepower and only few ft.lbs of torque more than the DM. Seriously, the Chevy is a better riding truck