Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
ennell To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Message-ID: <50914762.5070...@bennell.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Then let me suggest the use of a brass hammer. My father was cut quite badly many years ago when a bearing he was

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-31 Thread WILTON
Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Then let me suggest the use of a brass hammer. My father was cut quite badly many years ago when a bearing he was trying to remove shattered. A piece of it f

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-31 Thread Randy Bennell
Then let me suggest the use of a brass hammer. My father was cut quite badly many years ago when a bearing he was trying to remove shattered. A piece of it flew accross the top of his hand and cut an artery. Randy On 30/10/2012 5:13 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yes indeed. I learned that by

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread OK Don
lic press. I'm not big on pounding > bearings > > either! > > > > Greg > > > > -Original Message- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis > > Sent: Tuesday, October 30

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
What's nice about using the old race is that you end up seating it uniformly in the hub. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Or a nice little brass hammer... Mike On Oct 30, 2012 6:09 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: ...and of course the best tool to drive th

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Canfield
Or a nice little brass hammer... Mike On Oct 30, 2012 6:09 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > ...and of course the best tool to drive the new bearing race in is the > old bearing race!!! > > Dan > > > On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > > > If you are pounding on a bearing race

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes indeed. I learned that by watching a mechanic do it years ago. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: ...and of course the best tool to drive the new bearing race in is the old bearing race!!! Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: If y

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Dan Penoff
...and of course the best tool to drive the new bearing race in is the old bearing race!!! Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > If you are pounding on a bearing race anywhere near hard enough to break it > upon installation you aren't doing something right. I don't w

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Canfield
Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:59 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... > > Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? > I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. > > > &

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino
-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of thi

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I have had two pieces of 5/8" brass rod stock for years. One is just mushroomed on the end from being beaten, the other I grind to an edge for knocking out bearing races and such. Best tools I have in my box - you can put them on just about anything and go to town without worrying about chippi

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell
On 30/10/2012 1:46 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Agreed, and if you can't find a piece of brass bar stock, a piece of brass pipe also works well. Hexagon shapes would probably work better but I've never seen any around here. Gerry From: "Michael Canfield" I found a 1"x 8" hexagonal piece of brass b

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond
bject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found a 1"x 8" hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If I keep the end nice and square the points work very well for getting into the relief in the hub and driving o

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:50:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Message-ID: <20121030105049.2f6850ccadf3820b17390...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: &g

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Gerry Archer
Agreed, and if you can't find a piece of brass bar stock, a piece of brass pipe also works well. Hexagon shapes would probably work better but I've never seen any around here. Gerry From: "Michael Canfield" I found a 1"x 8" hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Canfield
I found a 1"x 8" hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If I keep the end nice and square the points work very well for getting into the relief in the hub and driving out the race. I have another similarly sized round piece for putting them back in. Makes them a breeze,

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Started hearing that familiar rumble on my '78 240D the other day and knew the time had come for wheel bear

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Craig
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > 60g of grease is much more than I thought it would be ... So 60 g is the correct number? That's what I recalled, but I couldn't verify it in my manuals. > Took it for a ride and the noise is GONE. ATTABOY!!! > I tossed it over t

[MBZ] Wheel bearings...

2012-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Started hearing that familiar rumble on my '78 240D the other day and knew the time had come for wheel bearings. Got 'em at my local Car Quest Friday with the intention of doing them Saturday (which is why I didn't get them from Q). Saturday came and I had no energy, instead I used my new scale

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-10 Thread John Reames
It's still a fine red hair either way... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:22, Craig wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:16:24 -0500 "Max Dillon" > wrote: > >> 0.01 to 0.02 mm is the factory specification; which converts to 0.4

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-09 Thread Max Dillon
AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings 0.01 to 0.02 mm is the factory specification; which converts to 0.4 inches to 0.8 inches. Procedure 33-0300 in the FSM. The W201 service manual is available online from MBUSA; I don't have the link on this c

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-09 Thread Max Dillon
: [MBZ] Wheel bearings On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:16:24 -0500 "Max Dillon" wrote: > 0.01 to 0.02 mm is the factory specification; which converts to 0.4 > inches to 0.8 inches. Now this has the decimal point error the other way. It should be 0.0004 to

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-09 Thread Craig
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 10:16:24 -0500 "Max Dillon" wrote: > 0.01 to 0.02 mm is the factory specification; which converts to 0.4 > inches to 0.8 inches. Now this has the decimal point error the other way. It should be 0.0004 to 0.0008. Craig ___ http://w

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-09 Thread Max Dillon
list of literature. When I get back to my work PC I'll try to remember to post that link. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 11:29 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-08 Thread Dieselhead
I have had success tightening the bearing until I can feel the resistance to spinning the tire increase. Then I loosen it 1/3 turn for general use, or 1/4 turn if I want it tight. I never had a .0001 dial indicator, so I can't tell you if it on the spec for sure. I can say that it is tight e

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-08 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib writes: > I found that even tightening the allen-head screw to lock the nut in > place changed the play by a few thousandths. Err.. I mean a few ten-thousandths. > So what I had to to was get it just slightly too loose (something > closer to .001"), then when I locked the nut in pl

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-08 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley writes: > Curt Raymond wrote: > >> Digging further he asked again a year later ;) and got: >> 0.01 - 0.02 mm (0.004 - 0.008 inch) > > > BZZT, WRONG. Mind your decimals. These bearings are supposed to be tight. > > 0.01 / 25.4 < 0.0004. > > 0.006 is easily discernible motion. > 0.0006

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
Inches or mm? Scott Ritchey 1982 300SD 230k mi -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 11:29 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Wheel bearings Hey all, I *think* the right wheel

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Whoops, missed copy.. -Curt Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:05:46 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings Message-ID: <4d27721a.80...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > Digging f

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:29:15 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond wrote: > Hey all, > > I *think* the right wheel bearing my 190D is loose. I've bought a dial > indicator and magnetic base and want to use it to prove the proper > tightness. IIRC the correct number is something like .006" but how > exactly do

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Digging further he asked again a year later ;) and got: 0.01 - 0.02 mm (0.004 - 0.008 inch) BZZT, WRONG. Mind your decimals. These bearings are supposed to be tight. 0.01 / 25.4 < 0.0004. 0.006 is easily discernible motion. 0.0006 feels totally unyielding to the hand. Th

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond
comment in there but it was just chiding somebody for not using a dial indicator, he didn't give an actual number. Anyway, looks like my memory of 0.006 is good enough. I'm off to give it a shot! -Curt --- On Fri, 1/7/11, Craig wrote: From: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel be

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond
: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curt Raymond" Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 12:32 PM On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:29:15 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond wrote: > Hey all, > > I *think* the right wheel bearing my 190D is loose. I

[MBZ] Wheel bearings

2011-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Hey all, I *think* the right wheel bearing my 190D is loose. I've bought a dial indicator and magnetic base and want to use it to prove the proper tightness. IIRC the correct number is something like .006" but how exactly do I do it? Stick the base on the rotor, point the indicator at the spindl

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-16 Thread LWB250
them, but not practical if you're doing MB wheel bearings as they should be done. Dan --- On Fri, 5/15/09, Allan Streib wrote: > From: Allan Streib > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 10:25 PM > An

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-16 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Unnecessary tool, somthig else for the garage elves to hide. I just use the palm of my hand, assuming I can find it. -- Pete Arnold This e-mail from Peter Arnold and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in error p

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Fmiser
> Allan Streib wrote: > Anyone use those bearing packers that are sold at Sears and > FLAPS? Sort of a cone-shaped contraption that has two halves, > I never was quite sure how they worked. I assume ou put the > bearing on the cone, fill the other half with grease, and > squeeze them together...

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Anyone use those bearing packers that are sold at Sears and FLAPS? Sort of a cone-shaped contraption that has two halves, I never was quite sure how they worked. I assume ou put the bearing on the cone, fill the other half with grease, and squeeze them together... or does it

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Allan Streib
Anyone use those bearing packers that are sold at Sears and FLAPS? Sort of a cone-shaped contraption that has two halves, I never was quite sure how they worked. I assume ou put the bearing on the cone, fill the other half with grease, and squeeze them together... or does it work with a grease gu

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
7 Crown Vics -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings Re-greasing is OK, if bearings, including races, are still in goo

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings Hi Ed, At the dealerships where I wo

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread WILTON
Yes, as the new grease goes in, it pushes the old grease out. Wilton - Original Message - From: To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings Many years ago, I was trained NOT to "Clean out" the old grease

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread WILTON
'Don't have to make 'em spin or spin so much as to over heat them, etc. Use short careful bursts, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond
I've got the right amount but having done it I'm also pretty sure you could go over without causing too many hassles... -Curt Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:44:05 + (UTC) From: pm7...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID:     &l

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond
May 2009 08:30:52 -0400 From: "LarryT" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <5512c28dfb174eedaee520cde0196...@larrypc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Hi Ed,  

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:19:01 -0700 Jim Cathey wrote: > > What's the best way to clean out all the old grease and goop? I've > > read to > > be careful not to used compressed air to try the bearings, as it will > > spin > > them dry, without grease, and can damage them. > > So I hear. I use c

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Jim Cathey
What's the best way to clean out all the old grease and goop? I've read to be careful not to used compressed air to try the bearings, as it will spin them dry, without grease, and can damage them. So I hear. I use compressed air, gently, but I hold the thing so nothing can spin. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Which is what I did and seems to have been fine for about 4,000 miles now. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:52:29 -0400 From: "WILTON" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="is

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread pm7088
YMMV -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:01:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings What's the best way to clean out all the old gre

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-15 Thread LarryT
yone interested! - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings What's the best way to clean out all the old grease and goop? I've read to be careful not to used compressed

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Quest) can get the seal, its $30(!) and takes around 3 hours to get it from the warehouse. Thanks! -Curt Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:44:56 -0500 From: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <63d7327a-20f0-4891-bdde-4f46cc013...@eart

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread E M
well, but > this USAF aircraft mechanic procedure works(ed) well for me. 'Haven't > needed it in a LONG time, though. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" > To: "Diesel List" > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:13 PM >

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread OK Don
WOW! That's exactly how I do it, but I've never seen it written up, nor had it validated as a good procedure. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:52 PM, WILTON wrote: > Re-greasing is OK, if bearings, including races, are still in good > condition, and you can clean out all the old goop and be sure when y

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread WILTON
essage - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings Which of course made me check... Sonofa... There are races. They're shrink wrapped in with the bearings so I didn't see 'em before. I rem

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
g McCluskey Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <20090514191646.57a107c9.diese...@cnsp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > Do bearing sets from Rusty come with races

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread WILTON
Absolutely! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: Do bearing sets from Rusty

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > Do bearing sets from Rusty come with races? The set I've got (from eBay) > didn't but the set I got from McParts did. If a bearing you buy do not come with two parts, the outer race and the inner race with the rollers, you have bough

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread WILTON
, too. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "LWB250" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... The ONLY way to properly set MB wheel bearings with with the use of a dial indicator. Peri

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread LWB250
The ONLY way to properly set MB wheel bearings with with the use of a dial indicator. Period. Using a "by feel" method will result in the bearings being too loose, and cause premature failure. Dan --- On Thu, 5/14/09, WILTON wrote: > From: WILTON > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whe

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread LWB250
The old races make great drivers for the new ones A brass drift is the ideal tool for this, I don't know what I would do without mine... Dan --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Frederick W Moir wrote: > From: Frederick W Moir > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... > To: "

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
00 From: MG Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4a0c2725.3040...@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That's the problem with sending a wife to do your job for you. ;-) If you had been there you could have asked

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino
2009 7:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... You should always replace the races as a matter of course -- if the bearing rollers are bad, so are the races, and they will eat a new set of rollers in a few thousand miles. BTDT. You can drive them in and

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
! -Curt Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:44:56 -0500 From: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <63d7327a-20f0-4891-bdde-4f46cc013...@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed You should always repla

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-14 Thread MG
d up a new bearing in a short time. That's why you always change both the inner and outer races when changing a bearing. Manfred Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:15:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond Subject: [MBZ] Wheel bearings To: Diesel List Message-ID: <29284.82677...@web32802.mail.mud.yahoo

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread WILTON
e - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... How do I replace the races? Or more specifically how do I get the *&$...@! old ones out? Big press? I beat on them a little last time (the oute

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Richard Hattaway
y poke a hole in the aluminum hub. --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Frederick W Moir wrote: > From: Frederick W Moir > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 12:59 PM > Curt. > What Jim said. > I'd only

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread WILTON
ilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... You should always replace the races as a matter of course -- if the bearing rollers are bad, so are the

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
D'accord! At 09:05 AM 5/14/2009, you wrote: I'd only add that a brass punch is best to use when installing the new races that last little bit. I use an old race as a driver. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
How do I test bearings? Jack up the car and wiggle the wheel? Maybe they're just set loose... That's how your highly-trained inspection station does it! They also shouldn't make that dry bearing sound when you spin the wheel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okieben

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I'd only add that a brass punch is best to use when installing the new races that last little bit. I use an old race as a driver. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
Curt. What Jim said. I'd only add that a brass punch is best to use when installing the new races that last little bit. If you get desperate (real desperate!) call me. Fred Moir Lynn MA At 08:53 AM 5/14/2009, you wrote: Hmm, I may try that. The bearings I bought for the 190D at Car Quest came

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Cathey Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > are the bearing races in the hub replaceable or would I need a new hub? If you can get them out, they're replaceable.  An old farmer&#

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
oose... -Curt Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:06:52 + From: brian.tosc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID:     <1580429519-1242259570-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-5839560...@bxe1172.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-13 Thread Peter Frederick
You should always replace the races as a matter of course -- if the bearing rollers are bad, so are the races, and they will eat a new set of rollers in a few thousand miles. BTDT. You can drive them in and out with a soft punch, or splurge on the MB driving tool. Have a care to get them

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-13 Thread Jim Cathey
are the bearing races in the hub replaceable or would I need a new hub? If you can get them out, they're replaceable. An old farmer's trick is to arc-weld a bead across the face of the race. When it cools it contracts, reducing the diameter of the race slightly. Repeat as necessary. Only if y

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-13 Thread brian . toscano
Races are replacable. If the spindles are worn you will have problems with new bearings. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:03:45 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Wheel bearings cont... So the inspection report

[MBZ] Wheel bearings cont...

2009-05-13 Thread Curt Raymond
So the inspection report says its the front wheel bearings. My wife says he said the passenger side was the worse of them but both were bad. I wonder if they're just loose, I need time to jack it up and see. I'd done the passenger side last fall, could be I got them too tight but the car has pro

[MBZ] Wheel bearings

2009-05-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Just talked to the wife, she had my 190D in for an inspection today and it was rejected for wheel bearings. She says "both" but I don't know if that means all 4 or what. My Indy had done one of the fronts (driver's side) last fall, I did the other one. I can't believe both of us screwed them but

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-10-01 Thread Bob DuPuy
One method that works for seal removal on some but not all set ups is to remove the nut and outside bearing then reinstall just the nut. Pull briskly out and down on the rotor. The nut inner bearing and seal will be left on the spindle with the seal usually still reuseable after CVI. Bob D. _

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Another way to do this is to use the old wheel bearing cup to bash the seal in, that's usually what I do. Hendrik & Fay wrote: > I have not had problems getting seals in, like others said, use a large, > flat faced hammer (not a sledge because they are too hard to control) > and gently tap tap

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I have not had problems getting seals in, like others said, use a large, flat faced hammer (not a sledge because they are too hard to control) and gently tap tap tap away. Don't rush it, you got all day. If you get a few small dents in the seal it is not the end of the world but if there are bi

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Rick Knoble
>> How do YOU remove seals? > > Like everybody else, with a screwdriver. > > -- Jim Or a seal puller from Sears Hardware or your F.L.A.P.S. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buy

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Scott Ritchey
Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 17:42 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings! On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:33:57 -0400 "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (no offense Craig, I know you are experienced - becoming more experiencd > b

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Peter Frederick
The problem is that the seal is soft sheet metal, doesn't take much to bend it up. I've wrecked a few in my time! They are available at McParts, usually -- after all, they have the bearings. Not always, though, as the spindle size isn't determined by the bearing seat size. Peter __

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:33:57 -0400 "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (no offense Craig, I know you are experienced - becoming more experiencd > by the day ;-) Both my wife and I got a laugh out of this. You're right, I AM becoming more experienced! Reminds me of the line: "The ability to

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Scott Ritchey
uskey Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 23:13 To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings! Well, I started the process to put my new dial indicator to use and jacked up the front of the car and removed both wheels. I attacked the driver's side wheel first. I took the brake caliper off, hung i

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Harry Watkins
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Peter Frederick
I have always driven the grease seal in with a large hammer, very gently applied. It is sheet metal, every easy to distort, so lightly tapping with a broad faced hammer allows you to get it in quite straight. If you don't feel good about that, use a small, flat piece of wood, preferably a cra

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Jim Cathey
> Unless you have bent it out of shape trying to remove it. Just bend it back into shape, more or less. It doesn't need to be perfect! > How do YOU remove seals? Like everybody else, with a screwdriver. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:10:53 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The seal must be installed till it is fully seated. > > Incidentally, the old seal often makes a perfectly-sized > seal driver. Unless you have bent it out of shape trying to remove it. How do YOU remove seals? Craig

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Jim Cathey
> The seal must be installed till it is fully seated. Incidentally, the old seal often makes a perfectly-sized seal driver. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROT

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:59:37 -0400 Wray Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > > I thought I had done a good job. I was wrong. One side of the seal was > > pressed down, but not as much as the last time. > > > > So, how good is good enough? > > Craig, > > The seal must

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:12:53 -0600 Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll send a picture on a reply to this email (if I attach it to this > email, it will be held up for Kaleb's approval). Here's the picture. It sure is frustrating not having the correct tools ... Craig

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-30 Thread Wray Stanley
Craig McCluskey wrote: > I thought I had done a good job. I was wrong. One side of the seal was > pressed down, but not as much as the last time. > > So, how good is good enough? Craig, The seal must be installed till it is fully seated. In your situation, the side of the seal that is "pressed

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-29 Thread Jim Cathey
> Any comments? Suggestions? Help? Help! Get some more big sockets! Harbor Freight makes a nice set of 3/4" drive seal presses that periodically go on sale. As a bonus, you can even use them to bar over the engine, and remove fuel tank senders. -- Jim ___ h

[MBZ] Wheel Bearings!

2007-09-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
Well, I started the process to put my new dial indicator to use and jacked up the front of the car and removed both wheels. I attacked the driver's side wheel first. I took the brake caliper off, hung it by a piece of coathanger wire, and removed the hub and disk. With a fair amount of difficulty,