[MBZ] Newer wagon E400 2018 Mercedes-Benz E-Class,$45,999

2021-05-23 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Depreciation curve must be a killer https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3935162116567187 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV

2021-01-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think avoiding computers is just a "I'm afraid of new fangled..." It's not hard to hook up a laptop and look at an ECU. The computers themselves rarely fail and when they do it's often because of damage.  Once you've got the computer it's way easier to troubleshoot a lot of things rather than

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV

2021-01-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
They won't be making gasoline cars either, soon enough. EVs are going to be what we get for new cars, like it or not. IDK anything about the newer MB diesels. Some engines are vulnerable to a "black death" issue with the injectors, Dan P. can tell you which ones. I try to avoid cars that have

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV

2021-01-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My 2014 GLK 250 is anything but a roller skate and has plenty of carrying capacity. There is a 350 Bluetec SUV that is more massive and IMO inferior in handling and fuel economy to its economical cousin. On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:19 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV

2021-01-31 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Bought my then-wife a 164 ML350 dizzel, I forget the year now, 2014 maybe ? It was a CPO off lease, 20ksome miles. It was loads of fun, massive torque. She’s still driving it and no problems far as I know. I liked it well enough the few times I drove it. I think it was getting high 20s for

[MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV

2021-01-31 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
My wife is considering a MB diesel SUV. I was surprised to learn that MB is not making any more diesel cars/SUVs (at least not in USA) anymore. The most recent I could find was 2016. I was just searching MB diesel SUV and found several. They are ML, GLK (small SUV that looks like a roller

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I was thinking the lease option might be worth considering, depending on what sorts with the situation and mileage requirements. --R On 9/27/14 10:14 PM, Karl W wrote: Seems like an old 123/126 in good shape would be just the ticket. Otherwise a well maintained G-wagen. I had a 2006

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Leasing is tricky at best and is rarely a win unless you can have some control over what they establish as the residual. If you want a car payment and a new car every 2-3 years, it could make sense. I saw a 2012 G-something at the MB dealer last week that was being prepped for delivery.

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-29 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Leasing will put you in a car, but watch the residual they allow - you can look at past history to get an idea of what the depreciation will be like and they will usually allow either 12000 or 15K mi/yr - if you can live with 12K make sure they price a 12K and not a 15K contract. But i'm sure

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-29 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Depends on how busy you are and how much you value a) the time required to maintain an older eg more than 3y old car and b) driving the latest stuff. Getting a car to the mechanic and back is a real hassle for us as we both work long hours and fight la traffic. Then you pay a huge repair bill for

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The wife does not want to have down time and to deal with issues. A newer lease and a dealer loaner... --R On 9/29/14 12:43 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Depends on how busy you are and how much you value a) the time required to maintain an older eg more than 3y old car and b)

[MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
OK I realize that asking for opinions from y'all is like throwing a steak to a pack of hungry dogs, but I'll do it anyway. I am trying to get out ahead of a likely need here in the next few months for a newer car of some sort, which I would think should be a Benz diesel. Could be a lease or

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What's your budget for the vehicle? MLs don't seem to hold their value that well, at least not around here. I haven't investigated exactly why, but I know the early models were troublesome. Not sure about the later ones. As for lease versus purchase, if you're going to be piling the miles

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-24 Thread clay via Mercedes
http://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/details/?listingid=371385386totalresults=484index=74atcmake=mercedes%20benzsearchtype=allp=4distance=100 http://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/details/?listingid=356385721

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Stick with the sedan, far better mileage and reliability. Records, records, and more records, and a PPI by Hans at German Auto or the other guy at Star Motors. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The choice between an E and a ML should be based on mission - will you need to ford streams or deep snow? If not, the E is probably the better choice. My 2001 ML was suspended like a truck (which is what it really was) - an e will be more pleasant in general driving. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:01

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
You could just move up to the 124 series, they are newer than your current fleet of Benz... Find a really nice low mile example, 2.5 turbo or E300 like mine, pay 5 or 6 grand. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel opinions

2014-09-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
This would be for Mama, and would be driving up around Greenville quite a bit. Not sure I need a remote fixer-upper (like mine)! --R On 9/24/14 5:45 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: You could just move up to the 124 series, they are newer than your current fleet of Benz... Find a

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
*From:* LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* clay redgh...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner problems

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel Is the VW Taureg held in the same low esteem as the rest of the VWs? Larry On 7/26/2014 7:57 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The Audi diesels are VW TDIs. Many of the parts on my Jetta have both the VW badge and the Audi linked rings. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
of the BS. Service is due at 10,000 miles but will probably be performed in Bedford.YMMV Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:21:26 -0700 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel From: mercedes@okiebenz.com I briefly considered a Touareg

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel From: mercedes@okiebenz.com I briefly considered a Touareg to replace my Ranger. Theres a video on Youtube of one in some serious offroad situations where it does remarkably well considering its a fairly simple soft roader. I think

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-29 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Andrew.Yup, Rock on! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:02:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com They still make Beetles?? On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Fred Moir via

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-27 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
The 210's are a rust bucket. I have one that the rocker rotted out from the inside at the jack point. (It will eventually be going, but that's another story.) Also those om606's have the snap-off glow plugs. (I was actually torquing the head bolts on the other one and had to stand down; the

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Wow - that's really interesting -- that VW owners are so uncaring about the upkeep of their cars. I wonder if they were leases or owned? Of course the data to be analyzed is pretty extensive. IMO most car shoppers are interestied oin one thing - what's my ,onthly payment? Advertisers

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That is insightful, as some time ago when I was looking for a car for the youngest son I seriously considered both Jettas and Passats. Nearly every used one I looked at had issues or a history of lousy maintenance (if any.) My brother owned an early 2000s Passat that he bought new. It was a

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel That is insightful, as some time ago when I was looking for a car for the youngest son I

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
I agree - begore reading the comments on this list I would have had a VW diesel near the top of my list. Sounds like I am back to MB -- if I can find one I can afford... Its a shame -- I also was a fan of Passats an Jettas - would have liked a wagon .. Larry On 7/26/2014 9:01 AM, Dan

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
In fairness to VW, I've never heard much bad about the TDIs in any flavor. I had a friend who was a dolphin trainer for Busch Gardens when they had a dolphin show some years back. They closed down the show and moved the animals to Sea World over in Orlando, a good hour's drive from here. He was

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I suspect that most lower end cars are not maintained the same as the higher end cars. VW is lower (despite their attempts at up-scaling their advertising) and Mercedes are upper end cars. There are VWs that have been maintained well, but you're going to have to search for one, and know what

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread clay via Mercedes
I was in the market for the passat TDI wagon a few years back, but decided to check with my cousin, since he sold them. That was the swiftest scratch off the list conversation. Ended up holding onto the E300D, and SWBMA purchased some korean sedan loaded with bells and whistles. She is now

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner problems than VW problems although VW's are made to be utility vehicles - some look better than others so they can sell as family cars but they are still economical cars (read cheap) and they have always been. when I was working at

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I believe that Audi VW are still one and the same if not, someone please correct me. I believe, based on what I have learned since my W140 and R129 ownership, that from 1996-7 through the early 2000s MB had most of the kinks worked out of their cars. This would not apply to the M class,

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I agree - begore reading the comments on this list I would have had a VW diesel near the top of my list. Sounds like I am back to MB -- if I can find one I can afford... Its a shame -- I also was a fan of Passats an Jettas - would have liked a wagon .. 12 years

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, July 26, 2014 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner problems than VW problems although VW's are made to be utility vehicles - some look better than others so they can sell as family cars but they are still economical cars

[MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-25 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Hi Ya'll, One of these days I will have to give up on the 91 300D and start looking for something newer for my wife. I prefer to stay with Diesels and while I would like to stay with MB I'm not sure the quality is there, but that's just based on anecdotal comments. I'd probably want

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
Sounds about as rare as Unicorns. A CDI benz should fit the bill fine. Most of the other diesel cars available in USA are going to be junk or worse as used examples. My cousin sold VW, and loved them fresh off the lot. He was less than impressed with what showed up in trades or how rare it

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
clay via Mercedes wrote: Sounds about as rare as Unicorns. A CDI benz should fit the bill fine. Most of the other diesel cars available in USA are going to be junk or worse as used examples. My cousin sold VW, and loved them fresh off the lot. He was less than impressed with what showed up

Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel

2014-07-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
A one or two year old Passat TDI should not be too bad - ours have been great, except when we took it to the stealer :-( On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:48 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sounds about as rare as Unicorns. snip My cousin sold VW, and loved them fresh off the lot.

Re: [MBZ] newer

2013-05-19 Thread Dieselhead
relng...@aol.com wrote: now, the big failures ($$) are the Electronic Ignition Module in the early cars (from 2008, all models) which is the unit that unlocks the steering column when the key is inserted. When it fails the car is flatbedded to a dealer for a minimum $1K bill. This is NOT a

Re: [MBZ] newer

2013-05-18 Thread Mitch Haley
relng...@aol.com wrote: now, the big failures ($$) are the Electronic Ignition Module in the early cars (from 2008, all models) which is the unit that unlocks the steering column when the key is inserted. When it fails the car is flatbedded to a dealer for a minimum $1K bill. This is NOT a diy

Re: [MBZ] newer

2013-05-17 Thread RELNGSON
...I find the newer cars easier to work on and maintain Please elaborate. Is that because they have better diagnostics, or, being newer, have less failures to correct?... They do have better diagnostics plus they do have fewer failures. On the MBWorld website where there is a large base

[MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Craig
On Thu, 16 May 2013 13:50:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I find the newer cars easier to work on and maintain Please elaborate. Is that because they have better diagnostics, or, being newer, have less failures to correct? Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I change the oil in our W221 cars and find it very easy, but its really about the same as any other car with a top-loading cartridge style filter. Getting the cover off under the car is a bit difficult, the car has to raised to its higher suspension position and raised slightly to get the built in

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class] On Thu, 16 May 2013 13:50:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I find

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Randy Bennell
On 16/05/2013 1:57 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 16 May 2013 13:50:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I find the newer cars easier to work on and maintain Please elaborate. Is that because they have better diagnostics, or, being newer, have less failures to correct? Craig

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: But really changing oil in a W123 300D is easier. No underbody cover to mess with. If in doubt, suck it out? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Max
I think it was '95 124 was the last according to M.B. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'd like to know too. Maybe this just applies to scheduled maintenance? I agree with Herr Doktor: Any competent amateur mechanic can

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Dan Penoff
On May 16, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 16 May 2013 13:50:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I find the newer cars easier to work on and maintain Please elaborate. Is that because they have better diagnostics, or, being newer, have less failures to correct?

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I'm not a believer in sucking out oil when there is a drain plug. If I had one of those fancy compressed air powered suckers and did modern cars all day, I might think differently. But for the occasional oil change on my W124, I don't mind getting under there to remove the cover. None of my

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Dan Penoff
On May 16, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I'm not a believer in sucking out oil when there is a drain plug. If I had one of those fancy compressed air powered suckers and did modern cars all day, I might think differently. But for the occasional oil change on my W124, I don't

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Max
In my experience, more oil is removed by vacuum via the dipstick tube. OM606, OM603, OM617. Sucked out the oil, then removed the drain plug; not a drop came out. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a believer in

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: newS class]

2013-05-16 Thread WILTON
Same here - twice each on 3 different MB's (81 300D, 91 350SDL, 87 300D). Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain

2013-05-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Because they're new after all... -Curt Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 14:45:48 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new Sclass] Message-ID: 5195376c.4090...@bennell.ca

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Dieselhead
I'm not a believer in sucking out oil when there is a drain plug. Troglodyte! And I was just sayin how you keep up to date , especially on all things Benz! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Dieselhead
In my experience, more oil is removed by vacuum via the dipstick tube. OM606, OM603, OM617. Sucked out the oil, then removed the drain plug; not a drop came out. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Works as designed! What a concept!

Re: [MBZ] Newer cars easier to work on and maintain [Re: new S class]

2013-05-16 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 16, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a believer in sucking out oil when there is a drain plug. Troglodyte! And I was just sayin how you keep up to date , especially on all things Benz! Most subscribers to this list are Luddites I think. (except

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
Is the GL a Mercedes or what? On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Daughter has an '07 GL320cdi SUV that just turned 100,000 miles. She drives one or two 60-100 miles trips per week and the rest short trips. Car has had no serious problems; the most

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Rich Thomas
It is a (gasp!) dreaded SUV --R On 11/4/11 9:18 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is the GL a Mercedes or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread WILTON
Gelandewagon? (sp?) Jeep/Land Rover-like? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs It is a (gasp!) dreaded SUV --R

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs It is a (gasp!) dreaded SUV --R On 11/4/11 9:18 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is the GL a Mercedes or what

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread WILTON
What's difference between ML and GL? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs No a GL is not a gelandewagen (G-class) The G class

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 3, 2011 10:41 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Daughter has an '07 GL320cdi SUV that just turned 100,000 miles. She drives one or two 60-100 miles trips per week and the rest short trips. Car has had no serious problems; the most expensive being some problem with the

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread John Freer
, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs No a GL is not a gelandewagen (G-class) The G class is an awesome vehicle with military heritage. The GL is a luxury SUV soccer-mom wagon. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2011, at 10:27 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Gelandewagon? (sp?)  Jeep

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Gerry Archer
2007 Mercedes-Benz GL320 CDI SnipMercedes' 215-hp, 398 lb-ft 3.0-liter V-6 turbo-diesel is teemed with the seven-speed automatic transmission and is now available in four models including the E-class sedan as well as the R-, M-, and GL-class sport-utes. But, the diesel option in the

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I thought it got around 25-27 highway? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2011 10:41 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Daughter has an '07 GL320cdi SUV that just turned 100,000 miles. She drives one or two

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Gerry Archer
On Nov 3, 2011 10:41 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Daughter has an '07 GL320cdi SUV that just turned 100,000 miles. She drives one or two 60-100 miles trips per week and the rest short trips. Car has had no serious problems; the most expensive being some problem with the

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Are those things suitable for off-roading, like beach driving on soft sand? Or mudding kinds of things (not the goober kind of mudding, but where you need good traction, diffs, etc.)? My Suburban and truck handle that well, the Jeep and Blazer did well. --R On 11/4/11 9:56 AM, Gerry Archer

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Maybe I'm old school but those V6 engines in a Mercedes irk me. The V6 is very camryesque. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Are those things suitable for off-roading, like beach driving on soft sand? Or mudding kinds of

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-04 Thread Gerry Archer
Good points: Brilliant drivetrain Commendably quiet and smooth Really works off-road Heaps of space Long standard comfort and safety equipment list Bad points: Too big Too heavy for urban use Expensive Extra for third-row seats

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-03 Thread Randy Bennell
On 02/11/2011 3:15 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I enjoy watching Mecum Auto Auctions and among the Camaros, Mustangs and other muscle cars there are always a couple recent model Mercedes in beautiful condition, often with low mileage. These have all been gas engines - haven't seen a diesel yet.

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-03 Thread Gerry Archer
Daughter has an '07 GL320cdi SUV that just turned 100,000 miles. She drives one or two 60-100 miles trips per week and the rest short trips. Car has had no serious problems; the most expensive being some problem with the automatic back lid which was covered under warrantee. She gets about 20

[MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Tim C
I'm seeing newer models showing up in my cheap MB searches. What's the list wisdom on mid-90s to early century MBs? Still avoid 140s? I would need E or larger for my daily beater. Also, SWMBO wants a modern CDI or Blutec to replace her Ford, which is admittedly tight with the infant carrier.

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread WILTON
Subject: [MBZ] Newer MBs I'm seeing newer models showing up in my cheap MB searches. What's the list wisdom on mid-90s to early century MBs? Still avoid 140s? I would need E or larger for my daily beater. Also, SWMBO wants a modern CDI or Blutec to replace her Ford, which is admittedly tight

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:07 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: I'm seeing newer models showing up in my cheap MB searches. Define cheap? Also, SWMBO wants a modern CDI or Blutec to replace her Ford, which is admittedly tight with the infant carrier. Are the engines pretty reliable

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
I enjoy watching Mecum Auto Auctions and among the Camaros, Mustangs and other muscle cars there are always a couple recent model Mercedes in beautiful condition, often with low mileage. These have all been gas engines - haven't seen a diesel yet. The auction prices have ben disappointing, to

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Tim C
On Nov 2, 2011 1:24 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:07 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: I'm seeing newer models showing up in my cheap MB searches. Define cheap? My standard CL query goes to 3k. I am surprised how many MLs I have seen in

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Dieselhead
I have a Canuck friend who bought a new R Diesel in the US. Last I heard, he still loves it. (Hearsay on a sample if one) That was the conventional wisdom, but I remember a while back that several posters said it wasn't really possible to carbon up a modern engine. That made me wonder

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: I have a Canuck friend who bought a new R Diesel in the US. Last I heard, he still loves it. (Hearsay on a sample if one) I think Wilton Jr has one. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Dan Penoff
A good reason why I will never buy another new car, short of hitting the lottery or some other major windfall. No matter what it is, the original owner is going to take the hit for the depreciation... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread WILTON
Son # 2 has an '07 R320CDI. Probably 150 kmi or so on it by now. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs Dieselhead wrote: I have

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:15 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: the Mercedes styling since the 70s has by and large been downright ungainly and aesthetically brutish, IMO. Them's fightin' words! A lot of us love the looks of the 126, 124, and 201. I couldn't get past the Jaguar

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Mountain Man
andrew wrote: ...the Mercedes styling since the 70s has by and large been downright ungainly and aesthetically brutish, IMO.  What do others think? W123 is just fine for my style tastes and amenities = none. Cars on the road today have zero appeal. But I am such a luddite I wouldn't use any of

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
I retract that characterization, made in haste. Certainly the 116 and 123 body styles are classic, although I never liked the look of W126 sedans and coupes. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: andrew wrote: ...the Mercedes styling since the 70s has by

Re: [MBZ] Newer MBs

2011-11-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I think a clean, tidy, later 126 sedan is super classy. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:33 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I retract that characterization, made in haste. Certainly the 116 and 123 body styles are classic, although I never liked the look of W126

[MBZ] Newer SLs

2010-08-21 Thread Rolf
Boss is looking for one, sent me a 07 SL500. Whats the consensus on these? Weak spots? I know its still a fairly new line. I found him a stage 5 670hp Renntech version of the one he sent me, with 12k miles for only a few bob more -Rolf ___

Re: [MBZ] Newer SLs

2010-08-21 Thread E M
Hi Rolf, I don't know specifics on any mechanical issues, but I believe it was the same V8 and 5 speed used the that vintage of S Class. I think it was quite a well sorted out package in general. There are lots of them running around here, used in all the varied climates we get. The one think

Re: [MBZ] newer power

2010-03-03 Thread Douglas
I watched this yesterday and it seems real nice. Though at the end one guy interviewed said it'd be more likely by the time it was available to the public, It'd say GE on it when you bought it. Douglas http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228923ntag=related;photovideo Wife's firm is

Re: [MBZ] newer power

2010-03-03 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
for more than 15 years? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] newer power I watched this yesterday and it seems real nice

[MBZ] newer power

2010-03-02 Thread Redghost
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228923ntag=related;photovideo Wife's firm is working on this guys legal work -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___

[MBZ] Newer E55 on ebay

2009-01-27 Thread Donald Snook
http://tiny.cc/jmZba Its also cheaper than the previous one posted Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090127/79fc9fc6/attachment.html

Re: [MBZ] Newer E55 on ebay

2009-01-27 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com said: http://tiny.cc/jmZba Its also cheaper than the previous one posted Salvage car. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Newer E55 on ebay

2009-01-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: http://tiny.cc/jmZba Its also cheaper than the previous one posted With a salvage title, it should be. My local used car dealer buddy tells me to multiply the price by 0.50 when assessing the value of a branded title car. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Newer E55 on ebay

2009-01-27 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: With a salvage title, it should be. My local used car dealer buddy tells me to multiply the price by 0.50 when assessing the value of a branded title car. Whoops. I didn't look closely enough at the listing. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML

[MBZ] Newer Diesels

2006-12-06 Thread Donald Snook
I have had 3 123's that 290K, 375K and 475K on them respectively. I know that the older diesels can last that long. I am sure the 124's can last that long. But, I had no idea that the newer ones were as durable. Look at this car - 300K on a 1997. That surprises me.

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesels

2006-12-06 Thread Levi Smith
I would sure as hell hope so... There are plenty of Subaru's out there with gas engines with more miles than that on original engines... On 12/6/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had 3 123's that 290K, 375K and 475K on them respectively. I know that the older diesels can last

Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesels

2006-12-06 Thread dave walton
I have one of the same body style. They will not last anywhere near as long as a 123 or 124 or 126. The body rusts easily. Paint dings turn to rust bubbles within weeks. Much of the metal has been replaced with plastic - which cracks too easily. Especially the fuel delivery components, steering