Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!!!
On Wed, 15 May 2024 17:26:09 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Ok so again I am a dumbass. I bought this 09S550, girl said AC needed > to be recharged. When I test drove it the AC was working fine then > wasn’t. A scan said the regulator was bad. It worked another time or > two as well. > I guess $110 for these parts and $550 for brake pads, new front axles, > and a headlight bulb (which requires removal of wheel and fender liner > to get at!!!) I’m at about $3160 now on the car. It’s in great shape > and runs well. I’ll get the axles and brakes done this weekend I hope. > And need to do a bit of interior detail but it’s actually fairly clean > after I vacuumed out the dog hair. Do an oil change soon too. > > Another lesson learned! Congratulations on your eventual success! It looks nice, though black isn't something I would choose. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
I had it cleared twice and the thing still is retarded clay On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > You probably just need the fault cleared. > > Dan > > >> On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:15 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: >> >> I hate the crap electric in the W220 >> >> Ever since I got the thing the driver side marker has been blinking as >> normal. The dash says that the marker is non op. I figure it may be the >> original bulb is bad, so I change it. New bulb is very nice and orange, >> bright, and blinks like the old one. Normal. Dash still says it is non-op >> >> clay >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
> Dan wrote: > > What is nice is that with the [DAS] setup I have it works > with everything from the early 1990s systems using the 38 > pin diagnostic connector all the way up to around 2010 > models. > I don’t use it that often, but it’s an invaluable tool to > have, even with the older cars. Heh. It seems we differ in our definition of "older cars"! I'll live with the lower performance and economy in my type of older car for the simplicity, durability, and repairability. -- Philip, with no SCRs in any of his taillight circuits. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
> On August 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > You’ll see the system identified as a “C3” or C4”. I believe the C4 has wifi > capabilities and doesn’t require a physical connection to the car to be used. Doesn't require a physical connection to the computer, but I've never gotten the wifi to work right on mine, don't know if it's the software, the C4, or the laptop, but the tech guys can wifi onto the laptop to work on it so I doubt it's my lappy. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The ones in the car are marked "S" as in 15S, is S the German for A? S for scheiss? As in crappy American blade fuses? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
The Klebster would have a better idea of what is covered with later model stuff. You’ll see the system identified as a “C3” or C4”. I believe the C4 has wifi capabilities and doesn’t require a physical connection to the car to be used. Again, I know Kaleb is up to speed on the later stuff, so I’ll defer to him on that. Dan > On Aug 22, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > So I found the fuse chart in a paper that was folded up and tucked in the > fuse box, it has the map for all the boxes in Deutsche, Anglis, and some > other language. Found the ciggy lighter fuse, and of course there are no > spare fuses and no fuse puller thingie. Had a 15A fuse in my toolbox so > popped the old one out, it was fried, popped the new one in, now there is > juice to the ciggy lighter phone charger thingie. Mama will be happy now. > Unclear why she did not mention it to the dealer when she took the vehicle in > for the A or B service or whatever it was on Friday week ago. Sigh. > > The ones in the car are marked "S" as in 15S, is S the German for A? Did > they have their own guy named Schultz or something who discovered current > flow, and this is some sort of snub to M. Ampere? (Hey, Dieter, throw me a > 15 Schultz fuse in there willya?) > > I should probably go buy a coupla boxes of fuses and a little puller thingie > to put in there so next time it blows I can tell her how to CHANGE YOUR FUSES! > > BTW the service consisted mostly of a 10k mile checkup and filters (engine > and cabin) change, maybe oil too I forgot to notice, which according to the > dealer guy would have been like $900 but it was covered under the CPO or > warranty we got or something. Another one is included, so after another 20k > miles I guess I am going to have to do all that stuff (and buy myself a good > bottle or 3 of whisky). She was ragging about why it is so expensive to do > that stuff. I tried to explain but I was having a hard time convincing > myself. > > Will the DAS system cover this 2012 ML? Or is there something else like it? > I should look into that if I am going to have to maintain this thing myself. > I'm wondering too if the main computer in the thing talks to all that stuff > and there might be some kind of special codes to get into it? That would > make some kind of sense, at least some Merkin sense. > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
So I found the fuse chart in a paper that was folded up and tucked in the fuse box, it has the map for all the boxes in Deutsche, Anglis, and some other language. Found the ciggy lighter fuse, and of course there are no spare fuses and no fuse puller thingie. Had a 15A fuse in my toolbox so popped the old one out, it was fried, popped the new one in, now there is juice to the ciggy lighter phone charger thingie. Mama will be happy now. Unclear why she did not mention it to the dealer when she took the vehicle in for the A or B service or whatever it was on Friday week ago. Sigh. The ones in the car are marked "S" as in 15S, is S the German for A? Did they have their own guy named Schultz or something who discovered current flow, and this is some sort of snub to M. Ampere? (Hey, Dieter, throw me a 15 Schultz fuse in there willya?) I should probably go buy a coupla boxes of fuses and a little puller thingie to put in there so next time it blows I can tell her how to CHANGE YOUR FUSES! BTW the service consisted mostly of a 10k mile checkup and filters (engine and cabin) change, maybe oil too I forgot to notice, which according to the dealer guy would have been like $900 but it was covered under the CPO or warranty we got or something. Another one is included, so after another 20k miles I guess I am going to have to do all that stuff (and buy myself a good bottle or 3 of whisky). She was ragging about why it is so expensive to do that stuff. I tried to explain but I was having a hard time convincing myself. Will the DAS system cover this 2012 ML? Or is there something else like it? I should look into that if I am going to have to maintain this thing myself. I'm wondering too if the main computer in the thing talks to all that stuff and there might be some kind of special codes to get into it? That would make some kind of sense, at least some Merkin sense. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There are different parameters for the aux fan turn on temperature, for example, as well as changes to the interior blower fan speed, too. For the later models like my W220 Mercedes has profiles set up in the software for various applications. In this case there are profiles for the climate control system that determine how it works relative to the climate. That is, there is a profile for “hot” climates, “normal” climates and “cold” climates. I’ve been told these are comparable to the Middle East, most of the world, and higher latitude locations. It affected everything from engine operating temperatures to blower speeds and aux fan settings, among other things. As for the cost of the DAS, it depends. You can do what I did and just buy the multiplexer, cables and software on an external hard drive (around $300) or go full bore and get it installed on an IBM T30 (?) laptop, which runs in the $500 range. I had an old HP laptop I wasn’t using for anything, so I have it running on it and nothing else. It also includes the WIS, EPC and technical data, all of which can be referenced from the DAS system. What is nice is that with the setup I have it works with everything from the early 1990s systems using the 38 pin diagnostic connector all the way up to around 2010 models. You can get pretty deep into the cars with this, even with the older basic pre-ODBII proprietary system that is on the W140 and R129 chassis and others. For example, I know a guy in my W140 forum on BenzWorld that uses it to get transmission pressures. By checking the pressures that the clutches engage at you can get a good idea of the internal condition of the transmission. I don’t use it that often, but it’s an invaluable tool to have, even with the older cars. Dan > On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:38:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well. I >> made some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a >> hot part of the world. As a result of the changes, my engine runs a >> bit cooler and my AC is a lot more efficient. > > Now that's interesting. Does it cause the auxiliary fan in front of the > radiator/condenser more? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
You probably just need the fault cleared. Dan > On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:15 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > I hate the crap electric in the W220 > > Ever since I got the thing the driver side marker has been blinking as > normal. The dash says that the marker is non op. I figure it may be the > original bulb is bad, so I change it. New bulb is very nice and orange, > bright, and blinks like the old one. Normal. Dash still says it is non-op > > clay > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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we will never get the quality of cars that used to be made. Now it is all plastic and wires. Beyond the ability of the standard user to diagnose or repair, unless you are Penoff. Priapis driving neighbor thinks that his plastic car will last a long time. All that plastic will be able to get 3D printed so parts will never go out of style. clay On Aug 22, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> That's nothing. My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes. And some >> electrical items have "electronic fuses" as MB calls them. It's a fancy >> name for saying that they're using an SCR to control a circuit, and it >> limits current if it sees a ground or short circuit. >> >> Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too. I had a side marker light out. >> I test the bulb with a meter. Open circuit. For grins I checked the socket >> for power with the light switch on. Nothing. >> >> Further studying revealed that if there's no load, the "electronic fuse" >> won't pass power to the circuit. >> >> Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked. >> >> Dan > > More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990. > > Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains. Bowties and pixiedust, but > none of the reliability and rationality the old German machinists and > engineers used to build cars with. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
I hate the crap electric in the W220 Ever since I got the thing the driver side marker has been blinking as normal. The dash says that the marker is non op. I figure it may be the original bulb is bad, so I change it. New bulb is very nice and orange, bright, and blinks like the old one. Normal. Dash still says it is non-op clay On Aug 22, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > That’s nothing. My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes. And some > electrical items have “electronic fuses” as MB calls them. It’s a fancy name > for saying that they’re using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits > current if it sees a ground or short circuit. > > Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too. I had a side marker light out. > I test the bulb with a meter. Open circuit. For grins I checked the socket > for power with the light switch on. Nothing. > > Further studying revealed that if there’s no load, the “electronic fuse” > won’t pass power to the circuit. > > Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked. > > Dan > >> On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML. >> There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows >> either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter. I try >> to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens. So I pry it out, put >> in the charger, no juice. >> >> So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in >> there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything. WTF? So >> then I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car for some >> reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered around the car, >> one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another under the back >> seat. I try to find the one by the door, there is none there. WTF??? So >> the manual says "The fuse allocation chart is located under cover" of the >> rear one. So I open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart. >> WTF The 79 TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover! I had >> to cut a little tab on the carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess >> no one has ever been in that fuse box. >> >> Have the Germans completely lost it? (Or maybe the Alabama assembly >> workers?) Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you >> supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed? Good news is the >> fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no >> idea which one to pull. >> >> Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart >> >> --R >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:38:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well. I > made some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a > hot part of the world. As a result of the changes, my engine runs a > bit cooler and my AC is a lot more efficient. Now that's interesting. Does it cause the auxiliary fan in front of the radiator/condenser more? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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DAS is quite expensive is it not? The VCDS cable for my VW was something like $300 brand new, the software is free once you've bought the cable. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES! I felt much the same way, although I put my concerns aside in a compromise for the deal I got on the car. That being said, I have to say that if you have the DAS software and multiplexer, troubleshooting and fault diagnosis is amazingly simple on these cars. You pretty much plug the computer in, run the diagnostics, and it tells you what’s wrong (or not) and allows you to reset any fault codes. The DAS software even gives you the links to the repair procedures and suggests possible problems based on the fault. It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well. I made some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a hot part of the world. As a result of the changes, my engine runs a bit cooler and my AC is a lot more efficient. If you don’t have the DAS, you’re pretty much left to guess at the problem. Dan > On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990. > > Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains. Bowties and pixiedust, but > none of the reliability and rationality the old German machinists and > engineers used to build cars with. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
I felt much the same way, although I put my concerns aside in a compromise for the deal I got on the car. That being said, I have to say that if you have the DAS software and multiplexer, troubleshooting and fault diagnosis is amazingly simple on these cars. You pretty much plug the computer in, run the diagnostics, and it tells you what’s wrong (or not) and allows you to reset any fault codes. The DAS software even gives you the links to the repair procedures and suggests possible problems based on the fault. It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well. I made some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a hot part of the world. As a result of the changes, my engine runs a bit cooler and my AC is a lot more efficient. If you don’t have the DAS, you’re pretty much left to guess at the problem. Dan > On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990. > > Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains. Bowties and pixiedust, but > none of the reliability and rationality the old German machinists and > engineers used to build cars with. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
That's nothing. My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes. And some electrical items have "electronic fuses" as MB calls them. It's a fancy name for saying that they're using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits current if it sees a ground or short circuit. Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too. I had a side marker light out. I test the bulb with a meter. Open circuit. For grins I checked the socket for power with the light switch on. Nothing. Further studying revealed that if there's no load, the "electronic fuse" won't pass power to the circuit. Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked. Dan More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990. Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains. Bowties and pixiedust, but none of the reliability and rationality the old German machinists and engineers used to build cars with. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I found some pdfs of the charts for the 4(!!!) fuse boxes that some MB tech posted, including a vid that shows where the pass side panel is (not where the manual says it is). I guess they are findable on some MB maintenance server somewhere, probably only accessible by techs. She just left on errands, I'll look at it when she gets back. --R On 8/22/15 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That’s nothing. My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes. And some electrical items have “electronic fuses” as MB calls them. It’s a fancy name for saying that they’re using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits current if it sees a ground or short circuit. Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too. I had a side marker light out. I test the bulb with a meter. Open circuit. For grins I checked the socket for power with the light switch on. Nothing. Further studying revealed that if there’s no load, the “electronic fuse” won’t pass power to the circuit. Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked. Dan On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML. There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter. I try to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens. So I pry it out, put in the charger, no juice. So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything. WTF? So then I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car for some reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered around the car, one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another under the back seat. I try to find the one by the door, there is none there. WTF??? So the manual says "The fuse allocation chart is located under cover" of the rear one. So I open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart. WTF The 79 TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover! I had to cut a little tab on the carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever been in that fuse box. Have the Germans completely lost it? (Or maybe the Alabama assembly workers?) Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed? Good news is the fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no idea which one to pull. Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML. There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter. I try to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens. So I pry it out, put in the charger, no juice. So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything. WTF? So then I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car for some reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered around the car, one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another under the back seat. I try to find the one by the door, there is none there. WTF??? So the manual says "The fuse allocation chart is located under cover" of the rear one. So I open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart. WTF The 79 TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover! I had to cut a little tab on the carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever been in that fuse box. Have the Germans completely lost it? (Or maybe the Alabama assembly workers?) Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed? Good news is the fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no idea which one to pull. Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart --R Don't have that problem on real Mercedes like my 240Ds, the 300D, the SDLs! I am sure that is a bad habit learned from crypesler or other merkuns. Even my dogde vans have one fuse box in front of the firewall, driver's side, just like all my MBs have been. (easily accessible) Everything is marked, and fuses are also listed in the owners manual. It must be a bad habit from too much 'shine in Alabama. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That’s nothing. My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes. And some electrical items have “electronic fuses” as MB calls them. It’s a fancy name for saying that they’re using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits current if it sees a ground or short circuit. Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too. I had a side marker light out. I test the bulb with a meter. Open circuit. For grins I checked the socket for power with the light switch on. Nothing. Further studying revealed that if there’s no load, the “electronic fuse” won’t pass power to the circuit. Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked. Dan > On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML. > There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows > either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter. I try > to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens. So I pry it out, put > in the charger, no juice. > > So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in > there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything. WTF? So then > I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car for some reason) and > it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered around the car, one in the > side of the dash by the pass door and another under the back seat. I try to > find the one by the door, there is none there. WTF??? So the manual says > "The fuse allocation chart is located under cover" of the rear one. So I > open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart. WTF The 79 > TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover! I had to cut a little > tab on the carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever > been in that fuse box. > > Have the Germans completely lost it? (Or maybe the Alabama assembly > workers?) Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you > supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed? Good news is the > fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no > idea which one to pull. > > Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
