Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks - I'll check.  Is there a part number?

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> So will rain.  I think I need to tear apart the door and figure out how
>> moisture is getting in, or why it isn't draining out.
>>
>
> There's supposed to be flimsy plastic rain hat over the
> lock inside the door.  It gets broken/torn very easily.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Thanks - I'll check.  Is there a part number?


Probably, but I don't know it.  I had a number of old cars that had
these weird black plastic shards in the bottom of the doors, and then
I ran into one that actually had the thing intact.  Mystery solved.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:23:17 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Someone, perhaps on this list (?), recommended this stuff -
> https://www.amazon.com/HOUD1-Houdini-Lock-Lube/dp/B00C5JFKKE
> I bought some and used it in the 1957 locks in the Cessna - it made ALL
> the difference in the world. They are now as smooth operating as a new
> MB lock! I don't know what it does relative to water and freezing, but
> for a sticking, rough working lock it is wonderful.

That was I.

Yes, it works wonderfully, doesn't it. A professional locksmith in Los
Alamos used it on a lock I brought in. I bought a can from him and still
have most of it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That'll be dyed fuel, can't use it in wick lamps although it'll burn fine in a 
pressure appliance like a Colman lamp or lantern.
I need to check if the Jet A is dyed but at $4/gal I doubt it.

-Curt 

  From: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices
   

You buy kerosene at the hardware store?
It's 3.599, taxes included, at the Charlotte Speedway station. 
http://www.speedway.com/StoreDetails?store=7515

> On January 11, 2016 at 2:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Our oil company puts a de-watering agent in the oil tank twice a year when
> they deliver. Theres a filter at the bottom of the tank that the burner tech
> replaces when he services it.
> I bought some "Ultra Pure Lamp Oil" to use in my Aladdin lamps in the house
> since it doesn't smell like straight kerosene does. It burns good but its
> expensive and freezes sold at around 45F. I put mixed it 50:50 with kerosene
> and found the smell is still gone and it doesn't freeze at least down to 4F
> we've had so far this winter. Interestingly I had another test bottle with 25%
> kero and it froze hard at around 35F. I want to experiment with more kero
> since the lamp oil is $19/3quarts and kerosene at the hardware store is
> $8/gal.Actually the next step is to try Jet A. A friend gave me a few gallons,
> it burns great in kerosene Colman equipment and I've been told its good in
> wick lamps but I haven't tried it yet. Smells like machine oil, none of the
> sulphur smell of kero but not quite like diesel either.
> -Curt


   
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You know if you were Jewish you could just pour a little bit in your 
lamp and it would burn for 9 nights!  A little known benefit!


--R

On 1/11/16 6:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

That'll be dyed fuel, can't use it in wick lamps although it'll burn fine in a 
pressure appliance like a Colman lamp or lantern.
I need to check if the Jet A is dyed but at $4/gal I doubt it.

-Curt

   From: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
  To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices



You buy kerosene at the hardware store?
It's 3.599, taxes included, at the Charlotte Speedway station.
http://www.speedway.com/StoreDetails?store=7515


On January 11, 2016 at 2:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Our oil company puts a de-watering agent in the oil tank twice a year when
they deliver. Theres a filter at the bottom of the tank that the burner tech
replaces when he services it.
I bought some "Ultra Pure Lamp Oil" to use in my Aladdin lamps in the house
since it doesn't smell like straight kerosene does. It burns good but its
expensive and freezes sold at around 45F. I put mixed it 50:50 with kerosene
and found the smell is still gone and it doesn't freeze at least down to 4F
we've had so far this winter. Interestingly I had another test bottle with 25%
kero and it froze hard at around 35F. I want to experiment with more kero
since the lamp oil is $19/3quarts and kerosene at the hardware store is
$8/gal.Actually the next step is to try Jet A. A friend gave me a few gallons,
it burns great in kerosene Colman equipment and I've been told its good in
wick lamps but I haven't tried it yet. Smells like machine oil, none of the
sulphur smell of kero but not quite like diesel either.
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Our oil company puts a de-watering agent in the oil tank twice a year when they 
deliver. Theres a filter at the bottom of the tank that the burner tech 
replaces when he services it.
I bought some "Ultra Pure Lamp Oil" to use in my Aladdin lamps in the house 
since it doesn't smell like straight kerosene does. It burns good but its 
expensive and freezes sold at around 45F. I put mixed it 50:50 with kerosene 
and found the smell is still gone and it doesn't freeze at least down to 4F 
we've had so far this winter. Interestingly I had another test bottle with 25% 
kero and it froze hard at around 35F. I want to experiment with more kero since 
the lamp oil is $19/3quarts and kerosene at the hardware store is 
$8/gal.Actually the next step is to try Jet A. A friend gave me a few gallons, 
it burns great in kerosene Colman equipment and I've been told its good in wick 
lamps but I haven't tried it yet. Smells like machine oil, none of the sulphur 
smell of kero but not quite like diesel either.
-Curt
 

  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices
   
Doktor M.B. used to post the annual Chevron diesel fuel report, and I
remember reading the section on fuel additives / cetane boosters, which is
not a straight forward problem.  Very few chemicals are effective, and I
had the impression that the cost / benefit analysis doesn't bode well.

A couple years ago (last I checked) MB posted on the BEVO site that the
only allowed fuel additives are for killing microbial growth and
de-watering / anti-gel.

Speaking of which, I need to de-water the tanks of my two oil burners,
haven't done that yet this cold season...



-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I know fuel  additives are verboten on this list but in the winter I add a
> couple ounces of Howes  Diesel  Treat to each tankful. Supposed to boost
> cetane, make donkeys fly etc but no gelling in over 10 years even with
> subzero temps. OM 602 will start @ 0F without block heater.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

You buy kerosene at the hardware store?
It's 3.599, taxes included, at the Charlotte Speedway station. 
http://www.speedway.com/StoreDetails?store=7515

> On January 11, 2016 at 2:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Our oil company puts a de-watering agent in the oil tank twice a year when
> they deliver. Theres a filter at the bottom of the tank that the burner tech
> replaces when he services it.
> I bought some "Ultra Pure Lamp Oil" to use in my Aladdin lamps in the house
> since it doesn't smell like straight kerosene does. It burns good but its
> expensive and freezes sold at around 45F. I put mixed it 50:50 with kerosene
> and found the smell is still gone and it doesn't freeze at least down to 4F
> we've had so far this winter. Interestingly I had another test bottle with 25%
> kero and it froze hard at around 35F. I want to experiment with more kero
> since the lamp oil is $19/3quarts and kerosene at the hardware store is
> $8/gal.Actually the next step is to try Jet A. A friend gave me a few gallons,
> it burns great in kerosene Colman equipment and I've been told its good in
> wick lamps but I haven't tried it yet. Smells like machine oil, none of the
> sulphur smell of kero but not quite like diesel either.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Someone, perhaps on this list (?), recommended this stuff -
https://www.amazon.com/HOUD1-Houdini-Lock-Lube/dp/B00C5JFKKE
I bought some and used it in the 1957 locks in the Cessna - it made ALL the
difference in the world. They are now as smooth operating as a new MB lock!
I don't know what it does relative to water and freezing, but for a
sticking, rough working lock it is wonderful.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Use some Tri-flow.
>
> Locksmith gets all manner of business cleaning out the graphite and other
> snot people put in the keyholes.  He only uses Tri-flow to lubricate and
> free locksets
>
> clay
>
>


-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I bought  some too after receiving on this list. Completely  Freed up
lock keying on my 124 300D trunk lock with no disassembly. I think it is
amazing.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 11, 2016 6:23 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Someone, perhaps on this list (?), recommended this stuff -
> https://www.amazon.com/HOUD1-Houdini-Lock-Lube/dp/B00C5JFKKE
> I bought some and used it in the 1957 locks in the Cessna - it made ALL the
> difference in the world. They are now as smooth operating as a new MB lock!
> I don't know what it does relative to water and freezing, but for a
> sticking, rough working lock it is wonderful.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Use some Tri-flow.
> >
> > Locksmith gets all manner of business cleaning out the graphite and other
> > snot people put in the keyholes.  He only uses Tri-flow to lubricate and
> > free locksets
> >
> > clay
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

So will rain.  I think I need to tear apart the door and figure out how
moisture is getting in, or why it isn't draining out.


There's supposed to be flimsy plastic rain hat over the
lock inside the door.  It gets broken/torn very easily.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Citgo is Hooogo's all company!  Or the new guy that is Hooogo Jr.  I 
think they got run out of Texas at some point.


--R

On 1/11/16 10:15 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not 
want to go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but 
started back up. Got home checked it out did not see anything so 
left again and it was fine. Think with it sitting all weekend and 
it got down to 8 Sunday morning fuel might have gelled. Now am 
filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.


Sent from my iPhone


You need to buy winter fuel.

1.79 here if I drive 15 miles each way.  One station at 1.69 maybe 
12 miles R/T


Otherwise 2.19 mostly. with a few at 1.92-1.99

Citgo still at 2.49 with no customers.


mosta huey's stations got closed down because people quit going 
there, except a few -ists.  Thisun's still open.


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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I keep a bottle "Diesel 911" in the trunk for just such an occasion,
haven't had to use that yet here in SC.  Imagine that!

$1.41 is pretty amazing, filled up both our oil burners at 2.19 / gallon
last week.  Local grocery chain sells loyal customers gas cards at a 20%
discount, so my price is really $1.75.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago
> for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen it
> in a long long time.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to
>> go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up. Got
>> home checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine.
>> Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning fuel
>> might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want 
to go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started 
back up. Got home checked it out did not see anything so left again 
and it was fine. Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down 
to 8 Sunday morning fuel might have gelled. Now am filling up at 
$1.41 a gal, wow.


Sent from my iPhone


You need to buy winter fuel.

1.79 here if I drive 15 miles each way.  One station at 1.69 maybe 12 miles R/T

Otherwise 2.19 mostly. with a few at 1.92-1.99

Citgo still at 2.49 with no customers.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Viva la socialismo!

The theory is to get the residents as it only takes the truckers about 
40min to bypass the whole place.  It's for the chirruns ya know...


--R

On 1/11/16 11:05 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

We are down to 2.39/ gallon in heavily taxed RI. The theory is get the
truckers.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 11, 2016 10:59 AM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
wrote:


buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago
for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen it
in a long long time.

--R

On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to
go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up. Got
home checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine.
Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning fuel
might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Citgo is Hooogo's all company!  Or the new guy that is Hooogo Jr.  I 
think they got run out of Texas at some point.


--R

On 1/11/16 10:15 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want 
to go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started 
back up. Got home checked it out did not see anything so left again 
and it was fine. Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 
8 Sunday morning fuel might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a 
gal, wow.


Sent from my iPhone


You need to buy winter fuel.

1.79 here if I drive 15 miles each way.  One station at 1.69 maybe 12 
miles R/T


Otherwise 2.19 mostly. with a few at 1.92-1.99

Citgo still at 2.49 with no customers.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago 
for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen 
it in a long long time.


--R

On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to go. 
Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up. Got home 
checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine. Think with 
it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning fuel might have 
gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

We are down to 2.39/ gallon in heavily taxed RI. The theory is get the
truckers.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 11, 2016 10:59 AM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago
> for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen it
> in a long long time.
>
> --R
>
> On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to
>> go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up. Got
>> home checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine.
>> Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning fuel
>> might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I know fuel  additives are verboten on this list but in the winter I add a
couple ounces of Howes  Diesel  Treat to each tankful. Supposed to boost
cetane, make donkeys fly etc but no gelling in over 10 years even with
subzero temps. OM 602 will start @ 0F without block heater.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 11, 2016 12:30 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I keep a bottle "Diesel 911" in the trunk for just such an occasion,
> haven't had to use that yet here in SC.  Imagine that!
>
> $1.41 is pretty amazing, filled up both our oil burners at 2.19 / gallon
> last week.  Local grocery chain sells loyal customers gas cards at a 20%
> discount, so my price is really $1.75.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago
> > for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen it
> > in a long long time.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to
> >> go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up.
> Got
> >> home checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine.
> >> Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning
> fuel
> >> might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So will rain.  I think I need to tear apart the door and figure out how
moisture is getting in, or why it isn't draining out.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Of course, dumping water on the handle guarantees that it will freeze up
> again - - -
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I need a built in additive for my master door lock on the '83 300TD.  It
> > froze up again this morning and the lock deicer was ineffective.  I
> dumped
> > hot water on the handle - works every time, although a trifle
> > inconvenient...
> >
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
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> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My door handle works perfectly EXCEPT when temperatures dip below
freezing.  It's not a lock issue, it's a drainage issue or an issue that
allows water to penetrate into the keyhole and freeze about 1/4" deep into
the keyhole, blocking the key at that point.  Does anyone know whether
water is allowed to penetrate but drain?
.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Doktor M.B. used to post the annual Chevron diesel fuel report, and I
> remember reading the section on fuel additives / cetane boosters, which is
> not a straight forward problem.  Very few chemicals are effective, and I
> had the impression that the cost / benefit analysis doesn't bode well.
>
> A couple years ago (last I checked) MB posted on the BEVO site that the
> only allowed fuel additives are for killing microbial growth and
> de-watering / anti-gel.
>
> Speaking of which, I need to de-water the tanks of my two oil burners,
> haven't done that yet this cold season...
>
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I know fuel  additives are verboten on this list but in the winter I add
> a
> > couple ounces of Howes  Diesel  Treat to each tankful. Supposed to boost
> > cetane, make donkeys fly etc but no gelling in over 10 years even with
> > subzero temps. OM 602 will start @ 0F without block heater.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 1990 300D
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I need a built in additive for my master door lock on the '83 300TD.  It
froze up again this morning and the lock deicer was ineffective.  I dumped
hot water on the handle - works every time, although a trifle
inconvenient...

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I've only ever had one gas of gelled diesel, that was when I bought my '85
> 190D that had been sitting since September in New Jersey down by Atlantic
> City. By the time I got it back to MA in December the fuel didn't want to
> go, it would start but wouldn't go in any gear except first. I let it idle
> for half an hour and it was fine. It only had like 1/4 tank of fuel so I
> filled it up and it was fine from then on.
> -Curt
>
>
>
>   From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 12:29 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices
>
> I keep a bottle "Diesel 911" in the trunk for just such an occasion,
> haven't had to use that yet here in SC.  Imagine that!
>
> $1.41 is pretty amazing, filled up both our oil burners at 2.19 / gallon
> last week.  Local grocery chain sells loyal customers gas cards at a 20%
> discount, so my price is really $1.75.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago
> > for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen it
> > in a long long time.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to
> >> go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up.
> Got
> >> home checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine.
> >> Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning
> fuel
> >> might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Of course, dumping water on the handle guarantees that it will freeze up
again - - -

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need a built in additive for my master door lock on the '83 300TD.  It
> froze up again this morning and the lock deicer was ineffective.  I dumped
> hot water on the handle - works every time, although a trifle
> inconvenient...
>



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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Doktor M.B. used to post the annual Chevron diesel fuel report, and I
remember reading the section on fuel additives / cetane boosters, which is
not a straight forward problem.  Very few chemicals are effective, and I
had the impression that the cost / benefit analysis doesn't bode well.

A couple years ago (last I checked) MB posted on the BEVO site that the
only allowed fuel additives are for killing microbial growth and
de-watering / anti-gel.

Speaking of which, I need to de-water the tanks of my two oil burners,
haven't done that yet this cold season...



-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I know fuel  additives are verboten on this list but in the winter I add a
> couple ounces of Howes  Diesel  Treat to each tankful. Supposed to boost
> cetane, make donkeys fly etc but no gelling in over 10 years even with
> subzero temps. OM 602 will start @ 0F without block heater.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Have you taken the door handle apart and really cleaned it? Back when I first 
had my '83 240D I used to spray a mix of WD40 and carb cleaner into the door 
locks to keep them moving. The guy I sold it to didn't so when I bought it back 
the driver's lock didn't work at all. I ended up having to cut it apart to get 
the wafers out so I could make a new lock.
Assuming you can still work the lock its really easy to take them apart, theres 
2 screws in the door jamb and one at the other end of the handle accessible 
once you have the door panel off. You might not need to loosen that one if the 
last guy in there didn't crank it down too tight. I always have to fight with 
the two rods a bit but with practice its not too bad, easier with the door 
panel off but as long as that one screw isn't too loose its not required.
I don't remember exactly what holds the lock cylinder in, I think its a pin you 
drive out. Leave the key in when you pull it so the wafers and their springs 
don't jump out. HOSE the whole thing down with brake cleaner, really soak it 
good. Then slowly pull the key and work each wafer back and forth while hosing 
it with some more brake cleaner. When its all really clean coat it with your 
preferred lock goop. I've got some PTFE stuff that works really well and repels 
water.
If you don't have the little door that covers the lock you need a replacement 
cylinder, MB doesn't replace just the cover. IIRC they're fairly expensive, 
used should be available. Its not hard to re-key the lock, just transfer the 
wafers over, make sure you move the springs too. Check it before you put it 
back in the car, my experience is that either there are different model 
cylinders or theres some variation in the cylinders so I had to swap wafers 
around or trim some a little to make 'em work.
-Curt
 

  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 12:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices
   
I need a built in additive for my master door lock on the '83 300TD.  It froze 
up again this morning and the lock deicer was ineffective.  I dumped hot water 
on the handle - works every time, although a trifle inconvenient...
  
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've only ever had one gas of gelled diesel, that was when I bought my '85 190D 
that had been sitting since September in New Jersey down by Atlantic City. By 
the time I got it back to MA in December the fuel didn't want to go, it would 
start but wouldn't go in any gear except first. I let it idle for half an hour 
and it was fine. It only had like 1/4 tank of fuel so I filled it up and it was 
fine from then on.
-Curt

 

  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 12:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices
   
I keep a bottle "Diesel 911" in the trunk for just such an occasion,
haven't had to use that yet here in SC.  Imagine that!

$1.41 is pretty amazing, filled up both our oil burners at 2.19 / gallon
last week.  Local grocery chain sells loyal customers gas cards at a 20%
discount, so my price is really $1.75.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago
> for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen it
> in a long long time.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to
>> go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up. Got
>> home checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine.
>> Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning fuel
>> might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices

[clay via Mercedes]

Use some Tri-flow.  

Locksmith gets all manner of business cleaning out the graphite and other snot 
people put in the keyholes.  He only uses Tri-flow to lubricate and free 
locksets

clay


On Jan 11, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> I need a built in additive for my master door lock on the '83 300TD.  It
> froze up again this morning and the lock deicer was ineffective.  I dumped
> hot water on the handle - works every time, although a trifle
> inconvenient...
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've only ever had one gas of gelled diesel, that was when I bought my '85
>> 190D that had been sitting since September in New Jersey down by Atlantic
>> City. By the time I got it back to MA in December the fuel didn't want to
>> go, it would start but wouldn't go in any gear except first. I let it idle
>> for half an hour and it was fine. It only had like 1/4 tank of fuel so I
>> filled it up and it was fine from then on.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel gelling and diesel prices
>> 
>> I keep a bottle "Diesel 911" in the trunk for just such an occasion,
>> haven't had to use that yet here in SC.  Imagine that!
>> 
>> $1.41 is pretty amazing, filled up both our oil burners at 2.19 / gallon
>> last week.  Local grocery chain sells loyal customers gas cards at a 20%
>> discount, so my price is really $1.75.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> buck41 for dizzel?  That is a Wow.  I saw it upstate a coupla weeks ago
>>> for $1.79 at some truck stop, Loves or something, cheapest I have seen it
>>> in a long long time.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/11/16 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Left the house this morning and down the road the e300 did not want to
>>>> go. Turned around and headed back. Died on the way but started back up.
>> Got
>>>> home checked it out did not see anything so left again and it was fine.
>>>> Think with it sitting all weekend and it got down to 8 Sunday morning
>> fuel
>>>> might have gelled. Now am filling up at $1.41 a gal, wow.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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