Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
We had a couple of suitcases in checked baggage. Not really room for them in the sleeper compartment. Allan On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > I've never had a case on a train where my luggage wasn't with me all the > time. One of my favorite parts of travel by train...

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've never had a case on a train where my luggage wasn't with me all the time. One of my favorite parts of travel by train... -Curt On Monday, December 6, 2021, 12:17:48 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I forgot to mention that not only was our train late arriving, but our

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2021-12-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
3-4 years ago I did a bike ride down to Savannah. Stayed the night with my cousin then figured I would ride the train back to charleston then bike to where my truck was parked, which would have been like 15-20 miles but that was ok. She dropped me at the train station, which was nice. Once the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I forgot to mention that not only was our train late arriving, but our luggage was even more delayed because it stayed on the wrong half of the train when they split it at one point. They did bring it to our hotel later, at least. On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 11:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes

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2021-12-06 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
There’s a pool run by a bunch of members of a rail fan group I follow for Flagstaff that is based on how late the Amtrak trains are. It’s a rare day when either one is on time. -D > On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > >  Amtrak is built on the finest govt

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2021-12-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Amtrak is built on the finest govt bureaucracy money can buy. Saddled with debt from sources so far unrelated it'll make your head spin it somehow manages to muddle on being "funded" by 2 or 3 routes that actually make money. The DownEaster: Portland, Maine to Boston, Acela Express: Boston to

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Actually, the 707 was a more modern design based on the 135. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 7:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft KC-135 and E3 AWACS fly over

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2021-12-04 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft All the low bypass turbojets are noisy. I flew in a British one once, don't remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back. Very noisy engines. On Dec 4, 2021

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 24 hours late to destination. Never again. On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software. The stop in > Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the

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2021-12-04 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software. The stop in Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, while the rest of the train continues to SEA. Except, most of the time the engine, at

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2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
gt;> wrote: >> >> You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet >> (J57) takeoff. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes >> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM >>

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2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
KC-135 and E3 AWACS fly over/near our house all the time - both based on the 707. We can easily distinguish them from the other jets out of Tinker AFB - the maintenance hub for these. On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:18 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When the family

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet > (J57) takeoff. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Peter Frederick > Subject:

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2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Peter Frederick > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft > > All the low bypass turbojets are noisy. I flew in a British

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet (J57) takeoff. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I've heard it called Jack Welch disease, but it's really Bably Boomer Tantrum disease. Long term planning doesn't extend past tomorrow at breakfast, and squeezing money out at any cost is all that counts., once the husk is dry you sell the company and buy another. The only thing that counts

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I remember, it was a BAC 111. Baby Trident, one of the earliest T-tail rear engine planes. On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. > I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall. >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
All the low bypass turbojets are noisy. I flew in a British one once, don't remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back. Very noisy engines. On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
We used to have Douglas, then McDonnell-Douglas, then they merged with Boeing, unfortunately although the name Boeing survived, it seems like the engineering culture of the old Boeing was dominated by the business culture of MD. On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

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2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall. -D > On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation, sadly it never sold as > well

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2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation, sadly it never sold as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well. On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > I flew on N194AT and

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2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
It's probably a custom build of Windows that has only the drivers and features it needs for that specific hardware and application. The Windows kernel (NT) is pretty solid -- probably at least as stable as the Linux kernel. It's the drivers and hardware of dubious quality that are the source of

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I believe it was

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2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The aircraft avionics have proprietary custom coded OS's that have to pass very rigorous testing before they are certified for use. That having been said, I use a non-certified device for navigation that runs on embedded Windows (can't remember what the official name is). It's never failed us in

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Same here, I've got movies in my phone, tablet and laptop. Podcasts on the phone and a real paper book in case all else fails. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: My feelings exactly. You don’t want to be 35,000 feet in

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2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It’s really sad we basically only have airbus and Boeing for main line commercial aircraft. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I believe it was the first commercial > airliner with auto-land. If

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2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more commercially viable. Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was their swan

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2021-12-04 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD. Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the fun. :D My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we hadda switch to a DC-10. Very comfy ride. -MMM-

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Don't know much about avionics but I would imagine anything flight-critical is a real-time OS such as VxWorks. Passenger entertainment systems? Mostly Windows-based, from what I've seen. On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:10 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > My feelings exactly. You don’t want

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the third or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they gave up and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular so they just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 45

Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
My feelings exactly. You don’t want to be 35,000 feet in the air and suddenly see the blue screen of death. However, I would be willing to bet modern avionics mostly run on a proprietary system or Linux kernel. I would hope so, at least. Maybe Grant knows? I never rely on onboard

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2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I was on some flight once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X. Finally got it to work. Was not encouraging. I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would not work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No luck. The manual had no clue but it did

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2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I’m gold, but that’s really the bottom tier for American. I’ll probably make platinum this year with all my trips back and forth to Flagstaff. I should probably get a rewards card of some sort and milk that, too. It’s not too busy today, my flight to DFW had plenty of open seats. Most likely

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2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yep sounds like American and airbus. I doubt you have status so surprised you got a first class upgrade. That had to have pissed off others that were on the upgrade list. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2021, at 11:59 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Taking a quick trip out to