Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:34 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: An industry which should have

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Kevin
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 07:04:35PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yep, I had to take a pee test before I could even APPLY for my CDL. And yes, standards are WAY more strict. For example, its illegal to carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle with a CDL, even if you hold a conceal and

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
uhhh, California doesnt have much say so about it, its a national thing. Kevin wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 07:04:35PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yep, I had to take a pee test before I could even APPLY for my CDL. And yes, standards are WAY more strict. For example, its illegal to

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread lee
On Wednesday 01 February 2006 5:51, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so lets here some of those idiot 4 wheeler driver stories. I always love those. I think anyone living in the Sonoran desert basin of Arizona has a few- we see 'em in the news constantly. When it rains hard in the desert around

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread David Brodbeck
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Some truckers already make that kind of money, my dads neighbor makes more than that. They already have sat tracking and can monitor speeds etc, luther can probably tell you about that. What is lower speeds going to do? Its a proven fact that lower speeds cause MORE

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread David Brodbeck
R A Bennell wrote: Recent article in our local paper says that the average age of truckers these days is climbing. Young people are not interested in the job and there is a shortage of drivers. Expect things to get worse before they get better. Does a CDL require an annual physical exam,

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
not sure about annual, but yes, you have to have to pass DOT physical to get CDL David Brodbeck wrote: R A Bennell wrote: Recent article in our local paper says that the average age of truckers these days is climbing. Young people are not interested in the job and there is a shortage of

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley
lee wrote: Apparently, some folks don't realize that a four wheel drive is not a submarine. You haven't seen the commercials for Jeep SUVs in recent years, have you? You can park those things completely under water, start them up and drive right out of the ocean. They don't even get wet

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: I first read that in a motorcycle magazine when I was a teenager. Having a preplanned strategy for if this bozo tries to kill me does work. When the other driver does try to kill me, my contingency plan is implemented faster than I can think. There's a related saying, in

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread David Brodbeck
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: not sure about annual, but yes, you have to have to pass DOT physical to get CDL Thanks. That's reassuring.

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Scordato
] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 01:37 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: John to answer your question no I would not mind paying more. I know I would. You would

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread John Berryman
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 02:14 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: I am more than a little dismayed at the demise of the quality of the professional truck driver. not long ago, the big rig driver would often be an exemplar for safe and courteous driving. today, trucks scare me more than

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Luther Gulseth
Well said Kaleb. The trucks I maintain haul parts for Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Chrysler, US Mail, and other high priority (JIT) freight. Many times our trailer is live loaded/unloaded (mostly Toyota) onto the assembly line and other times it sits less than 4 hours before parts are used on

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Luther Gulseth
Oh yea, I was going to mention the technology is out there to control the trucks ECM through the satellite. Commands can be sent (like shut down at next stop), read engine codes, and many other goodies. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:20:28 -0600, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread OK Don
Huh? - Please explain. I don't see the relationship --- A direct result of drug testing. Its affected many other industries too. Johnny B. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread John Berryman
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 11:04 PM, OK Don wrote: A direct result of drug testing. Its affected many other industries too. Johnny B. There are a plethora of great workers from all walks of life that use drugs recreationally ie: not high on the job. A study shows that

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep John Berryman wrote: On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 11:04 PM, OK Don wrote: A direct result of drug testing. Its affected many other industries too. Johnny B. There are a plethora of great workers from all walks of life that use drugs recreationally ie: not high on

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
Two Words - Diesel and Snorkel Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of lee Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues On Wednesday 01 February 2006 5:51

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-02 Thread R A Bennell
] Trucking Industry the Saga continues R A Bennell wrote: Two Words - Diesel and Snorkel If you try to cross five feet of running water I guarantee you'll be on the evening news, snorkel or no. If the water's moving fast it only takes a couple of feet to sweep a truck downstream. Water is dense

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:34 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: An industry which should have the same safety standards as lets say the aerospace industry or maritime industry, is certainly lacking, big time, yet on a day by day basis affects as many if not more people. I guess you

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread R A Bennell
Recent article in our local paper says that the average age of truckers these days is climbing. Young people are not interested in the job and there is a shortage of drivers. Expect things to get worse before they get better. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Robert M Doran
I just had to say something here because, besides presently owning and driving a 115 and a 107 (...and the old 123--gone but not forgotten), I drive an 18-wheeler for a living most of the time and have done so for over 30 years. Foremost in my mind when I am approaching any situation on the road

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
I also am in the trucking industry, managing the maintenance and repair of over 220 semi's, all from my computer and phone. When I'm in my 4 wheeler(I also posess a CDL), I constantly see reasons why we should have regulations similar to those in the commercial traffic realm. Many

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:34 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: An industry which should have the same safety standards as lets say the aerospace industry or maritime industry, is certainly lacking, big time, yet on a day by day

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues I just had to say something here because, besides presently owning and driving a 115 and a 107 (...and the old 123--gone but not forgotten), I drive an 18-wheeler for a living most of the time and have done so for over 30

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
You mean like we do our folks in the military? [Sorry, just could not resist.] On 2/1/06, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A) pay truckers a decent salary (may I suggest 75,000 to 100K ? a year plus benefits factor in inflation) to be away from their families -- 1977 240D 1983 VW

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
Our nation would be better off to double the salaries of our Teachers. This would attract more teachers that can and leave the option open to fire those who cannot and not have to worry about no one wanting to fill the position. ~ ~You mean like we do our folks in the military? [Sorry, just

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Gary Hurst
I am more than a little dismayed at the demise of the quality of the professional truck driver. not long ago, the big rig driver would often be an exemplar for safe and courteous driving. today, trucks scare me more than drunks. On 2/1/06, Robert M Doran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread R A Bennell
a one finger salute. They just do not know any better. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues I also

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 01:37 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: John to answer your question no I would not mind paying more. I know I would. You would too , you're just caught up in the moment. We are the most spoiled society on earth when it comes to that. We're

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
Everyone is King of the Road. ~ ~I am amazed (but I should not be) when someone cuts me off when ~I have ther right of way and then gives me a one finger salute. They just do ~not know any better. ~ ~Randy B ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Robert M Doran
At the risk of getting a full-blown discussion started which will ultimately solve ALL the world's problems, I'll add a few more selected comments: Paying truckers a decent salary is fine, but most of the truckers I talk with are not so dissatisfied with their salaries as much as they are

Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert M Doran wrote: Foremost in my mind when I am approaching any situation on the road is the anticipation of what would be the most inappropriate (read: stupid) thing that another driver could do and then plan what my reaction would be to it. I first read that in a motorcycle magazine