That's about right for 4/0. Add 5 pounds to each end
of the cable for the camloc connectors, too, as they
are big and solid copper.
We used tons of this stuff in the generator business,
especially with rental units. Talk about lots of
money...
MacDan
--- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VERY heavy. I'd make welding cables out of ought or double-ought, not
four-ought. This wire isn't light
Luther
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:46:07 -0600, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500, Mitch wrote:
How heavy is four-ought? If it's
When we would make up cables for our rental generators
we used the scraps to make battery cables for our
cars. We had the nice solder type battery terminals,
too. Voltage drop? We don't need no stinkin' voltage
drop!
I can recall a VW I had that was retrofitted with a
set of these. Darn
Drool. Where would four-ought battery terminals be found?
Luther
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:58:30 -0600, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When we would make up cables for our rental generators
we used the scraps to make battery cables for our
cars. We had the nice solder type battery terminals,
They were big heavy duty ones we used to make up
cables for the 8D battery banks we fabricated for the
gensets. The other ends were crimp style ring
terminals.
I just recall having to use a torch to solder them...
Dan
--- Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Drool. Where would four-ought
Commercial battery shops like Interstate, will make up any cable config you
specify. Also, the golf cart battery places typically use heavier cables
with the 6 volt batteries.
Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles
98 ML 320, 152 K miles
In a message dated 12/23/2007 2:21:24
: [MBZ] copper thieves
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When we would make up cables for our rental generators
we used the scraps to make battery cables for our
cars. We had the nice solder type battery
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:27:14 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been thinking replacement this summer and if I do they'll be no
smaller than 0ga. It might not help but it shouldn't hurt and if I need
to do them anyway...
Good line of thinking.
Craig
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When we would make up cables for our rental generators
we used the scraps to make battery cables for our
cars. We had the nice solder
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:40:35 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Car battery cables are made of a fine braid wire. Standard braid cables
can stress crack at solder and crimp joints due to vibration.
Welding cables are extra-fine braid wire.
Craig
0ga. It might not help
but it shouldn't hurt and if I need to do them
anyway...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:58:30 -0800 (PST)
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill wrote:
And buy something nice for one of your MB's.
How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make
myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it.
They just finished filming
It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500, Mitch wrote:
How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to
make myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it.
Like in pounds or kilograms?
Or as in current capacity?
Current capacity in a 60 deg C raceway is 195
Bill wrote:
And buy something nice for one of your MB's.
How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make
myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it.
Mitch.
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For new parts see official list
Not a bad idea there.
BillR
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Timothy Robinson wrote:
Well, not long ago we caught
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
I remember in the 70s, gasoline shortage, the fuel lines... There were some
kids who were stealing gas. The MOD
And buy something nice for one of your MB's.
BillR
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
I've got about 50-60 feet of that I
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Not a bad idea there.
BillR
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Tom Hargrave wrote:
Or do what a friend of mine did when the radio was stolen out of his
Toyota Supra. Epoxy a few razor blades in staryegic locations. The next
time he was broken into the thieves left his radio and a blood sample.
There was no third time.
Sounds like thief #1 and thief #2
Christopher McCann wrote:
Alternatives - eliminating the penny, plastic.
Mitch wrote:
Once upon a time, we eliminated the half penny. At that time,
the penny became the lowest denomination coin, and AFAIK
nobody had a problem with it. The quarter is probably worth as
much now as the
It was last year or the year before in NH they did just that. Thought rubber
gloves would protect them from the input to a substation.
Fifty gazillion volts and they were all done...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:30:54 -0800
From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Kind of like a big Presto hotdog cooker?
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:49 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
In Australia we did away with our 1 and 2 cent pieces many moons ago,
the Government just one day said it's time to get rid of the small
shrapnel and round up and down.
Although rounding up seemed to be the outcome.
Hendrik
Fmiser wrote:
Christopher McCann wrote:
Alternatives -
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
In Australia we did away with our 1 and 2 cent pieces many moons ago,
the Government just one day said it's time to get rid of the small
shrapnel and round up and down.
Although rounding up
I've got about 50-60 feet of that I pulled from a construction dumpster.
I'm thinking that I should strip the insulation and take it to the local
recycler for some 's.
Luther, copper thief?
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:31:56 -0600, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Had breakfast with my
The good places will strip it for you for free. Competition and all...
--R
Luther wrote:
I've got about 50-60 feet of that I pulled from a construction dumpster.
I'm thinking that I should strip the insulation and take it to the local
recycler for some 's.
Luther, copper thief?
IIRC there was a large traffic jamming upgrade made to one of
our usually clogged highways here in seattle. Took a few days
to put down a few miles of copper stuff and buckle up the
roadway. A few days latter some person decided to rent a
digger machine and remove said copper, causing the
Fmiser wrote:
My local electric coop has reported that a number of people have
been killed by messing with live, high-voltage lines and live
sub-stations.
Hey, it's cheaper than shooting them. And you don't have to catch
them in the act, you only need to find the bodies and have them
Hey didn't some incident like that in Paris suburbs spark Muslim
outrage a few months back, in addition to sparking a coupla Muslim yutes?
I don't mean that to be a political statement -- everybody got all up
about a coupla guys who were doing something in a power substation,
reportedly
In a message dated 12/20/2007 10:15:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Copper stealing probably takes a lot of work considering the profit
also. Risk of getting caught would seem high also - although those on this
list seem to keep getting hit -
Back in 67, I
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves/copper scavenging is not new!
In a message dated 12/20/2007 10:15:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Copper stealing probably takes a lot of work considering the profit
also. Risk of getting caught would seem
We had 3 a/c units hit at work a few months back. Just yesterday, a bishop in
Argentina that works with us (we publish Catholic books) let us know that there
is no point in calling as they have stolen the phone lines AGAIN - obviously
for the copper. That was in Argentina. So, it seems to be a
One wonders at point thieves will break into cash registers in order to
steal the copper PENNIES and leave behind the worthless paper money (US$$).
On Dec 19, 2007 1:39 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We had 3 a/c units hit at work a few months back. Just yesterday, a bishop
in
My guess is that the thieves made @$600 on the scrap copper for all
the damage they caused.
The proceeds no doubt used to finance that victimless crime of
recreational drug use.
--
Rory Morrison
Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD
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I've had similar happen, return to a jobsite after a weekend and someone has
stripped copper brankch circuits plumbing just to sell at scrap prices. I'm
a trusting, fatalist, Karma type. Well, I was and hate to lose that...
I've been known to use a little ingenuity such as energizing metal
Timothy Robinson wrote:
In years past I've actually camped out at a site just hoping to catch
someone. If I did they'd probably wish that I'd call the police to rescue
them.
I own a vacant lot about 3 miles from where I currently live. I'd like to
build a nice big workshop/office there, but
A year or so ago here in the Houston area a guy traded a coupla thieves
a small bit of lead for the copper they were trying to take from his AC
unit, and one ended up owning a small plot of ground. Occupational hazard.
--R
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For
US Pennies have not been made out of copper since 1982 when the value of the
copper exceeed 1 cent. Since then, they are made from zinc coated with copper.
But this year, the value of the zinc exceeded one cent and now Congress is
looking into alternatives. People are melting down large
There is a major league shopping mall on the north
side of Milwaukee that was vacant for about a year, as
all of the anchor stores had pulled out and moved to
the 'burbs - thieves went so far as to rent a crane
and remove all the AC units off the roof and haul them
away on flatbed tractor trailers
Christopher McCann wrote:
Alternatives - eliminating the penny, plastic.
Once upon a time, we eliminated the half penny. At that time, the penny
became the lowest denomination coin, and AFAIK nobody had a problem with it.
The quarter is probably worth as much now as the penny was then. I think
They just busted a recycle yard in Seattle not too long ago... Some
undercover-police-types were selling material to the yard that was
obviously not legit (street signs, etc) and then they busted them.
Basically the same as a pawnshop that buys obviously stolen goods.
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Pretty much increases and decreases with the price of copper.
Christopher McCann wrote:
We had 3 a/c units hit at work a few months back. Just yesterday, a bishop in
Argentina that works with us (we publish Catholic books) let us know that
there is no point in calling as they have stolen the
Well you'd think when a couple of crackheads show up at the scrap
yard with a brand new commercial A/C unit that they tell them to get
lost and call the cops.
On Dec 19, 2007, at 6:59 PM, Zach wrote:
They just busted a recycle yard in Seattle not too long ago... Some
Possibly, but I think they have gone way beyond recreational use.
BillR
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
My guess
and
be long gone...
BillR
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Timothy Robinson wrote:
In years past I've actually camped
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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Well you'd think when a couple of crackheads show up at the scrap
yard with a brand new commercial A/C unit
19, 2007 7:31 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
The other problem with being around when they are is that the police, at
least, think these guys are high on dope when they do it. If you are there
it could be dangerous. Call the police - they should
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
A year or so ago here in the Houston area a guy traded a coupla thieves
a small bit of lead for the copper they were trying to take from his AC
unit, and one ended up owning a small plot of ground
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
The other problem with being around when they are is that the police, at
least, think these guys are high on dope when they do it. If you are there
it could be dangerous. Call the police - they should
Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Most don't understand the function of our police force. Their job is to
follow up after the crime, not prevent the crime.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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I read an article about a fellow who was looking to scrounge up all
the spare pennies out there for making a profit. One of those coin
gobbling machine companies was selling him the pennies. He would
sort out those older than 1981, which are heavy copper, then packed
the newer ones for
, 19 Dec 2007 16:42:53 -0500
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Timothy Robinson wrote:
In years past I've actually camped out at a site just hoping to catch
someone. If I did they'd probably wish that I'd call the police to rescue
them.
I
IIRC there was a large traffic jamming upgrade made to one of our
usually clogged highways here in seattle. Took a few days to put
down a few miles of copper stuff and buckle up the roadway. A few
days latter some person decided to rent a digger machine and remove
said copper, causing
Timothy Robinson wrote:
Well, not long ago we caught a guy helping himself to a friend's sound
system in a parking lot. We tackled the guy and held him while calling the
police (informing them that we were holding the guy). An hour and half and
second call later...
Next time, when you
A couple weeks ago a guy south of Houston popped a couple of sh**heads
who had just burgled his neighbors' home (they were gone), carrying the
loot, and coming into his yard. One had been deported already for drug
offenses and came back, the other was another multiply-convicted felon,
both
: [MBZ] copper thieves
A couple weeks ago a guy south of Houston popped a couple of sh**heads
who had just burgled his neighbors' home (they were gone), carrying the
loot, and coming into his yard. One had been deported already for drug
offenses and came back, the other was another multiply
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