Re: The danger of 3.

2006-05-22 Thread laurent FANIS
Yeah WTF ?wasted my bandwidth on this ?Couldn't even finish it Even if my religion is still to be decided i would have chosen in these difficult time : Revelation13:18 -He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred

Re: CVS dying gasps updating www

2006-05-22 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Selon Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone can reproduce this, because I did not find the cause of this issue yet... OK, more info about this. # cd /usr # cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs -q co -P www [...] # = checkout without any error # cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs -q up -Pd www

newbie questions

2006-05-22 Thread sonjaya
Dear all i have 2 router like bellow: internet--router1route2--lan detail : 1. router1 interface internet = 192.168.0.10/24 gw = 192.168.0.2 interface to router2= 192.168.1.10 /24 2. router2 interface to router1 = 192.168.1.11/24 gw = 192.168.0.10 interface to lan=

Re: newbie questions

2006-05-22 Thread sonjaya
yes i have enable ip forwarding to 1 # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 On 5/22/06, Didier Wiroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Did you enable ip forwarding on your routers? Like this: #sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 To make it permanent change it in /etc/sysctl.conf

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 20 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:09:15AM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: I have a simpler question: is there any plan to make installing xbase a requirement in the foreseeable future? no. nothing in {base,comp,man,misc,game,etc}XX.tgz depends on

Re: newbie questions

2006-05-22 Thread Fred Crowson
sonjaya wrote: Dear all i have 2 router like bellow: internet--router1route2--lan detail : 1. router1 interface internet = 192.168.0.10/24 gw = 192.168.0.2 interface to router2= 192.168.1.10 /24 2. router2 interface to router1 = 192.168.1.11/24 gw = 192.168.0.10

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Lars Hansson
On Monday 22 May 2006 17:27, Liviu Daia wrote: Ok, let me rephrase this. How realistic will be to run an OpenBSD firewall or router without xbase a few years from now? Very, in my opinion. With the release of 3.9, there seems to be a new trend among port maintainers to make running

Re: CVS dying gasps updating www

2006-05-22 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 22 May 2006, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: Selon Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone can reproduce this, because I did not find the cause of this issue yet... OK, more info about this. # cd /usr # cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs -q co -P www [...] # = checkout without any

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 22 May 2006, Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 17:27, Liviu Daia wrote: Ok, let me rephrase this. How realistic will be to run an OpenBSD firewall or router without xbase a few years from now? Very, in my opinion. With the release of 3.9, there seems

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Marc Balmer
* Liviu Daia wrote: The consistent answer I got on ports@ was that it has been decided that installing X is not a showstopper, and a number of personal attacks for suggesting otherwise. :-) Which is why I'm now asking if this is the official position. Yes, that _is_ the official

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 22 May 2006, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Liviu Daia wrote: The consistent answer I got on ports@ was that it has been decided that installing X is not a showstopper, and a number of personal attacks for suggesting otherwise. :-) Which is why I'm now asking if this is

Re: newbie questions

2006-05-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
sonjaya wrote: i have 2 router like bellow: internet--router1route2--lan detail : 1. router1 interface internet = 192.168.0.10/24 gw = 192.168.0.2 interface to router2= 192.168.1.10 /24 2. router2 interface to router1 = 192.168.1.11/24 gw = 192.168.0.10 interface to

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:27:18PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 20 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:09:15AM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: I have a simpler question: is there any plan to make installing xbase a requirement in the foreseeable

Lynx starting vi with strange -c arg

2006-05-22 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
I have used lynx for years as a file browser as well as web browser (when I can) and it is routine for me to fix /etc/lynx.conf to show me dotfiles. Recently I need to inspect lots of text files and sometimes edit a few so I set vi to be the system editor for lynx. So far so good. When editing

Re: newbie questions

2006-05-22 Thread Andreas Kahari
On 22/05/06, Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sonjaya wrote: [cut] i have set all router like this : - all PF is disable - in rc.conf i set = routed=-q Also, the setting in /etc/rc.conf (or in /etc/rc.conf.local) is routed_flags, not routed... Be well, Andreas -- Andreas Kahari

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 22 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:27:18PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 20 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:09:15AM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: I have a simpler question: is there any plan to make

Re: Lynx starting vi with strange -c arg

2006-05-22 Thread Alexander Farber
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/lynx/src/LYEdit.c calls in edit_temporary_file(): char *editor_arg = ; ... format = %s +%s%s %s; HTAddXpand(command, format, params++, editor); HTAddParam(command, format, params++, position); HTAddParam(command, format, params++,

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jacob Meuser wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:27:18PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 20 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:09:15AM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: I have a simpler question: is there any plan to make installing xbase a

Re: Lynx starting vi with strange -c arg

2006-05-22 Thread Alexander Farber
In /usr/src/usr.bin/vi/common/main.c: ... * Change + into -c$. ... if (argv[0][0] == '+') { if (argv[0][1] == '\0') { argv[0] = strdup(-c$); On 5/22/06, Alexander Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Lynx starting vi with strange -c arg

2006-05-22 Thread Tony Abernethy
Rod.. Whitworth wrote: I have used lynx for years as a file browser as well as web browser (when I can) and it is routine for me to fix /etc/lynx.conf to show me dotfiles. Recently I need to inspect lots of text files and sometimes edit a few so I set vi to be the system editor for lynx.

HP DL140 G2 Openbsd

2006-05-22 Thread Unnikrishnan, Puthanveetil
Hi , I plan to install Openbsd3.9 on HP DL140 G2 machine. Is this machine Compatible with OpenBSD 3.9 ? Regards Unni

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread steven mestdagh
Liviu Daia [2006-05-22, 12:27:18]: Ok, let me rephrase this. How realistic will be to run an OpenBSD firewall or router without xbase a few years from now? Huh? You do not and will not need xbase to run a firewall/router. With the release of 3.9, there seems to be a new trend among

RAIDframe, swapping components in a RAID 1 array

2006-05-22 Thread Paul Wright
Hi all, I've followed a set of instructions[1] describing a method of installing OpenBSD onto a RAID 1 array created with raidctl using only 2 disks (sd0b + sd1b). The basic premise is to first install normally onto one disk (sd0b) and then created a degraded RAID 1 array using the second disk

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/05/22 14:42, steven mestdagh wrote: Clearly, this no_x11 stuff has a low priority. The error message could use work though; Can't install gd-2.0.33p2: lib not found fontconfig.3.0 Even by looking in the dependency tree: jpeg-6bp3, png-1.2.8, libiconv-1.9.2p3 Maybe it's in a dependent

Re: RAIDframe, swapping components in a RAID 1 array

2006-05-22 Thread Marcus Popp
Hi Paul, On 2006-05-22T14:14, Paul Wright wrote: Hi all, I've followed a set of instructions[1] describing a method of installing OpenBSD onto a RAID 1 array created with raidctl using only 2 disks (sd0b + sd1b). The basic premise is to first install normally onto one disk (sd0b) and then

Re: RAIDframe, swapping components in a RAID 1 array

2006-05-22 Thread Paul Wright
On 22/05/06, Marcus Popp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, On 2006-05-22T14:14, Paul Wright wrote: Hi all, I've followed a set of instructions[1] describing a method of installing OpenBSD onto a RAID 1 array created with raidctl using only 2 disks (sd0b + sd1b). The basic premise is to

Re: Newer snaps throw kernel panic...

2006-05-22 Thread Jeff Ross
On Mon, 22 May 2006, Miod Vallat wrote: I've got a server that has been running fine with a bsd.mp kernel from Apr 23. I took it up to -current on May 19th and it threw a panic on boot. I booted from the old kernel and it was fine, so I cvsuped the source and built -current again. Same

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 22 May 2006, steven mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Liviu Daia [2006-05-22, 12:27:18]: Ok, let me rephrase this. How realistic will be to run an OpenBSD firewall or router without xbase a few years from now? Huh? You do not and will not need xbase to run a firewall/router.

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Can Erkin Acar
On Monday 22 May 2006 Liviu Daia wrote: On 22 May 2006, Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 17:27, Liviu Daia wrote: Ok, let me rephrase this. How realistic will be to run an OpenBSD firewall or router without xbase a few years from now? Extremely realistic.

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 22 May 2006, Can Erkin Acar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 Liviu Daia wrote: On 22 May 2006, Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 17:27, Liviu Daia wrote: Ok, let me rephrase this. How realistic will be to run an OpenBSD firewall or

Re: newbie questions

2006-05-22 Thread sonjaya
it solved when i installed new n fresh . and the thread closed , thx for all respond my regard's for all On 5/22/06, Andreas Kahari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/05/06, Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sonjaya wrote: [cut] i have set all router like this : - all PF is disable

Re: HP DL140 G2 Openbsd

2006-05-22 Thread Per-Olov Sjoholm
On Monday 22 May 2006 13:51, Unnikrishnan, Puthanveetil wrote: Hi , I plan to install Openbsd3.9 on HP DL140 G2 machine. Is this machine Compatible with OpenBSD 3.9 ? Regards Unni We have four HP DL140 G2 machines running on 3.7 at a customer site (dns and mail relays) without any

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
my reply to this thread has no references b/c most of the prior stuff is irrelevant to the contents of this reply. the reason nobody wants to accomodate liviu is that it takes WORK, namely other people's valuable time that could be spent working on code that 1 person is agitating about. in all

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 22 May 2006, Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my reply to this thread has no references b/c most of the prior stuff is irrelevant to the contents of this reply. the reason nobody wants to accomodate liviu is that it takes WORK, namely other people's valuable time that could be

pkg_add -ui, Can't call method visit on unblessed reference at..

2006-05-22 Thread Mikolaj Kucharski
Hi, I'm updating packages half years old (don't remeber exacly) to 3.9-release packages on system (that was -current system). $ dmesg | head -n2 OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #615: Tue Feb 28 20:41:06 MST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC and it's finish with below

php on openbsd (library issue?)

2006-05-22 Thread jabbott
I setup a new PPC box with Openbsd 3.9. After the install I dl'd and compiled apache 2.0.58, mysql 5.21 and php 5.1. I got the box setup and running. Everything seemed to be working just fine. I did some testing of the php application (phpBB) and everything seemed to work just fine. So, I

Re: php on openbsd (library issue?)

2006-05-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/05/22 10:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am confused on which way to go here. How about using httpd from base, and php from ports? Porters have put a lot of time into making it all Just Work. Watch out you keep that phpBB up-to-date, whichever way you go.

Re: php on openbsd (library issue?)

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Hernandez
On May 22, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2006/05/22 10:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am confused on which way to go here. How about using httpd from base, and php from ports? Porters have put a lot of time into making it all Just Work. Watch out you keep that phpBB

Re: php on openbsd (library issue?)

2006-05-22 Thread jabbott
The problem with the ports version of php, and I did try that the first time I setup the box, was the dependency list was huge and it installed a whole bunch of stuff that I didn't really need/want. The php install took almost a full day of downloading/compliling and installing applications.

basic questions regarding patching, errata and stable branch

2006-05-22 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi everybody, I am still trying to sort out some of the information on the OpenBSD website about how to follow a specific branch and what are the benefits of each method. I understood what STABLE, CURRENT and RELEASE are and how to follow them. I still have some difficulties figuring out what

Re: basic questions regarding patching, errata and stable branch

2006-05-22 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 07:21:33PM +0200, Tobias Weisserth wrote: I guess the best solution would be to follow stable but speaking honestly this seems like a lot of wasted bandwidth and CPU time for a few small changes at best? Best depends on many things. ;) I follow stable on my production

Re: CVS dying gasps updating www

2006-05-22 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Mon, 22 May 2006, Otto Moerbeek wrote: I can reproduce this with anoncvs3, but anoncvs.uk.openbsd.org works ok for me. The main cvs repository is also ok. Allright, thanks! It's good to know I was not alone. I guess I tried the wrong mirrors then... Regards, -- Antoine

Re: php on openbsd (library issue?)

2006-05-22 Thread bulibuta
Then, you've selected the wrong package, I had no dependencies for php-core. In fact that's the only extra package I have besides base on one of my servers, and everything runs smoothly. On Monday 22 May 2006 19:14, you wrote: The problem with the ports version of php, and I did try that the

Re: php on openbsd (library issue?)

2006-05-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/05/22 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with the ports version of php, and I did try that the first time I setup the box, was the dependency list was huge On OpenBSD, ports are mostly there to build packages, rather than for typical software-installation. As such the php port

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:15:02PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: (1) My question was about the official policy. When / if I'm pointed to a written form of that policy (which is basically what I'm asking for), I might consider submitting a patch to it. :-) You have received many replies

Re: HP DL140 G2 Openbsd

2006-05-22 Thread mickey
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 05:22:21PM +0200, Per-Olov Sjoholm wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 13:51, Unnikrishnan, Puthanveetil wrote: Hi , I plan to install Openbsd3.9 on HP DL140 G2 machine. Is this machine Compatible with OpenBSD 3.9 ? Regards Unni We have four HP DL140 G2

Re: php on openbsd (library issue?)

2006-05-22 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem with the ports version of php, and I did try that the first time I setup the box, was the dependency list was huge and it installed a whole bunch of stuff that I didn't really need/want. The php install took almost a full day of downloading/compliling

Re: RAIDframe, swapping components in a RAID 1 array

2006-05-22 Thread Greg Oster
Paul Wright writes: Hi all, I've followed a set of instructions[1] describing a method of installing OpenBSD onto a RAID 1 array created with raidctl using only 2 disks (sd0b + sd1b). The basic premise is to first install normally onto one disk (sd0b) and then created a degraded RAID 1

Re: basic questions regarding patching, errata and stable branch

2006-05-22 Thread Ted Unangst
On 5/22/06, Tobias Weisserth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Starting with 2.7, OpenBSD provides a source tree that contains important patches and fixes (i.e. those from the errata plus others which are obvious and simple, but do not deserve an errata entry) and makes it available via CVS in addition

Re: pkg_add -ui, Can't call method visit on unblessed reference at..

2006-05-22 Thread Mikolaj Kucharski
After upgrading by hand every package I found problem which result with error in my previous post: # ls -al /var/db/pkg/ | grep atk drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512 Feb 2 12:57 .libs-atk-1.10.3p0 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512 May 22 19:00 atk-1.10.1 # pkg_add -rvi atk-1.10.3p1

Re: via vt6103 vlan support

2006-05-22 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006/05/22 05:39, Raja Subramanian wrote: The vlan(4) man page does not mention this chip. I googled, and grepped through /usr/src/sys, but could not arrive at a conclusion. If the IFCAP_VLAN_MTU capability is set on a vlan parent, vlan assumes

Built assembly module using libc routines.

2006-05-22 Thread João Salvatti
Hi all, I'm developing a small program that uses an assembly routine. It is compiled and executed normally. But I've done some changes in the routine, more specifically changing the system calls, such as write, by libc functions, such as fprintf and exit. Then everytime I try to run the program

Re: basic questions regarding patching, errata and stable branch

2006-05-22 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 22 May 2006 19:21:33 +0200, Tobias Weisserth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still trying to sort out some of the information on the OpenBSD website about how to follow a specific branch and what are the benefits of each method. I understood what STABLE, CURRENT and RELEASE are and how

pf tables and redirects

2006-05-22 Thread Eci Souji
I'm currently using a table with pf redirects. rdr pass on X_if proto tcp from any to Y_ip port {80,443} - tableQ round-robin sticky-address and it's working fine. The only issue is when I delete an entry from that table some connections still continue to try and hit that destination ip. Is

Re: basic questions regarding patching, errata and stable branch

2006-05-22 Thread Will H. Backman
Tobias Weisserth wrote: Hi everybody, I am still trying to sort out some of the information on the OpenBSD website about how to follow a specific branch and what are the benefits of each method. I understood what STABLE, CURRENT and RELEASE are and how to follow them. I still have some

Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread Paulo Rodriguez
Hi guys, just a quick question. During some toying with pf I noticed something. When making a comment like the following: . # pas on re0 from any \ # # to any port 59# . is it expected behavior that pfctl

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 02:52:59PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 22 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:27:18PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 20 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:09:15AM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote:

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:40:47PM +0200, Paulo Rodriguez wrote: . # pas on re0 from any \ # # to any port 59# . is it expected behavior that pfctl complains about a space after the backslash,

Re: ServeRAID 4M

2006-05-22 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 08:35:35AM +0600, Anton Maksimenkov wrote: Aside from the other comments, I'll add that aac(4) was disabled because it was buggy and Adaptec wouldn't provide documentation. Theo was quite clear about this at the time, see the 3.8 release notes. Ok, I remember about

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
. # pas on re0 from any \ # # to any port 59# . is it expected behavior that pfctl complains about a space after the backslash, DESPITE the line being a comment? Or is there a good reason

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Marc Balmer
could we now close this thread and go back to work?

sysjail: OpenBSD jail implementation

2006-05-22 Thread Kristaps Johnson
Hello, For those enjoying FreeBSD's jail utility, we're pleased to announce a user-space implementation for OpenBSD (using systrace.4). http://sysjail.bsd.lv From the introduction: ``sysjail is a userland virtualisation system for operating systems supporting the systrace library. It is

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 5/22/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would think the good reason is that the line is not a comment as you imagine, but would effectively turn into: I disagree. I think this is a bug in all these lexers, and we should fix it. \ret is the only special case that says ignore

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:07:14PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: # pas on re0 from any \ # # to any port 59# [...] i would think the good reason is that the line is not a comment as you imagine, but would effectively turn into: [...] \ret is the only

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 22 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 02:52:59PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 22 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:27:18PM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 20 May 2006, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Built assembly module using libc routines.

2006-05-22 Thread Ted Unangst
On 5/22/06, Joco Salvatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm developing a small program that uses an assembly routine. It is compiled and executed normally. But I've done some changes in the routine, more specifically changing the system calls, such as write, by libc functions, such as fprintf and

Intel 945GM + Dell Latitude D620 resolution woes

2006-05-22 Thread Christopher Snell
Hi All, I'm having a hell of a time trying to get this Dell Latitude D620 to run at 1440x900 resolution. Dimitry Andric's recent 945GM patches got me closer (no more Xorg BusID errors) but I still can't get 1440x900 going. I'm using the 915resolution port to patch BIOS mode 5a to 1440x900x24

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread Alexander Hall
Matthias Kilian wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:07:14PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: # pas on re0 from any \ # # to any port 59# [...] i would think the good reason is that the line is not a comment as you imagine, but would effectively turn into: [...]

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread Jeff Quast
I disagree. I think this is a bug in all these lexers, and we should fix it. \ret is the only special case that says ignore both. In any other case \c should translate into just the character c. This \whitespace special case it is an errors that a few people will make, so fail when we

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:07:14PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: # pas on re0 from any \ # # to any port 59# [...] i would think the good reason is that the line is not a comment as you imagine, but would effectively turn into: [...] \ret is the only

PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-22 Thread Craig Skinner
Hi list, I'm going to attempt to word this carefully as I'm looking for a non-flame debate on the merits of PHP, Mason, Ruby, and JSP/Tomcat. I have googled about extensively and similar threads seem to end up with various posters slinging mud and then licking wounds. Not my intention. An

Re: Intel 945GM + Dell Latitude D620 resolution woes

2006-05-22 Thread Dimitry Andric
http://saba.island.nu/openbsd/Xorg.0.log.txt First of all, are you sure your screen is really 1440x900? The driver thinks not: (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (1280,800) ... (II) I810(0): Lowest common panel size for pipe B is 1280 x

Re: Intel 945GM + Dell Latitude D620 resolution woes

2006-05-22 Thread Christopher Snell
On 5/22/06, Christopher Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a hell of a time trying to get this Dell Latitude D620 to run at 1440x900 resolution. Dimitry Andric's recent 945GM patches got me closer (no more Xorg BusID errors) [...] Doh. I researched Dell's site and noticed that two

OpenBSD/i386 3.9 install doesn't boot

2006-05-22 Thread Daniel Dickman
Hello, I just received my newly purchased copy of OpenBSD/i386 3.9 and tried to install it on my Compaq R3140US laptop. Unfortunately it freezes when booting the install CD (see below for output). I searched on the web for a solution, but the only thing I found was Jeff's extremely similar

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-22 Thread andrew fresh
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:53:27PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: *) Mason - not practical in chroot without half of CPAN, so what is the point? I am leaning towards Mason behind a reverse Squid proxy I would think that if you use mason with mod_perl[1] instead of running it as a CGI, you don't

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Chris Cappuccio
What most ports (at least gd/php and maybe tk) need from X11 is nothing more than libfreetype My simple solution is to copy /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.so.X.X from a box with X11 to the server without X11. Just copy it to /usr/local/lib and everything works. I mean, you could make libs into its

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-22 Thread bofh
On 5/22/06, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm worried about data driven HTTP attacks getting past the reverse Squid proxy on the bastion host and into the LAN server, especially via HTTPS when contents are not examined so well. Just curious, why aren't you looking at apache for

Re: ServeRAID 4M

2006-05-22 Thread Steve Shockley
Joachim Schipper wrote: OpenBSD has an isp(4) driver, as 'man isp' will tell you. Nothing obviously ServeRAIDish in there, though. FreeBSD's ServeRAID driver is ips, not isp. isp is for QLogic controllers.

Netgear FA311was sis, is now rl

2006-05-22 Thread Martin Schröder
I had to replace a Netgear FA311 with a newer version of the same card. Unfortunately this card is now a rl(4), not a sis(4) anymore. dmesg for the old version: sis0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00: DP83815D, irq 10, address 00:02:e3:12:7b:9c nsphyter0 at sis0 phy 0: DP83815

ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread prad
this is not openbsd specific, but i wanted to ask people who really understand the inner workings of programming languages. suppose that you have 2 conditions A and B where B take a lot of effort to determine (eg looking for a string match in a huge file). either A or B needs to be true before

Re: Comment evaluation in pf.conf

2006-05-22 Thread Paulo Rodriguez
Thank you all for clarifying this, guys. I'll give you feedback on the diff when I try it out. Theo de Raadt schreef: . # pas on re0 from any \ # # to any port 59# . is it expected behavior that pfctl

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread Ryan Flannery
On 5/22/06, prad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is not openbsd specific, but i wanted to ask people who really understand the inner workings of programming languages. suppose that you have 2 conditions A and B where B take a lot of effort to determine (eg looking for a string match in a huge

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread Martin Schröder
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_evaluation Best Martin

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread jjhartley
Original message from prad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: suppose that you have 2 conditions A and B where B take a lot of effort to determine (eg looking for a string match in a huge file). either A or B needs to be true before you can execute 'this'. the 2 if statements below are equivalent i

i386: cpuid instruction for #define CPU_586 7 ?

2006-05-22 Thread vladas
Sorry if I did not get smth right, but src/sys/arch/i386/include/cputypes.h or http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/arch/i386/include/cputypes. h?rev=1.5.4.3content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup says that: /* * Kinds of Processor. Only the first 7 are used, as they are

Re: OpenBSD/i386 3.9 install doesn't boot

2006-05-22 Thread Daniel Dickman
Terrific! disable pcibios worked for me. Here's my dmesg in case it's at all useful. Is there any way to include this automatic workaround in a future release? I'm not skilled enough to try to code something up myself, but I'd be happy to do any testing or provide any further info. OpenBSD

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread prad
On Monday 22 May 2006 17:54, you wrot You can consider short-circuiting of Boolean evaluation greedy, but it a feature which may also save clock cycles if the right-most sub-expressions are costly to evaluate. thanks to all for the responses! what a great list!! using the links and

openbdp problem with set localpref on match

2006-05-22 Thread G Douglas Davidson
I'm having a heck of a time with openbgp on openbsd 3.7. I am attempting to set the localpref for a network and somehow it does not appear to be happening. I've tried: network 192.168.1.0/24 set localpref 200 and match to any prefix 192.168.1.0/24 set localpref 200 and I

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread jjhartley
Original message from prad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 22 May 2006 17:54, you wrote: ... i was puzzled reading something on one of the wikipedia links provided: The opposite of lazy evaluation is eager evaluation, also known as strict evaluation. Eager evaluation is the evaluation

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Lars Hansson
On Monday 22 May 2006 20:42, steven mestdagh wrote: If you are still talking about making no_x11 flavors for the gd library and everything that depends on it, I doubt this will happen. You wouldnt really need to make no_x11 flavors of everything that depends on GD, only GD itself would need

Pinnacle Video Capture in OpenBSD 3.9

2006-05-22 Thread Julian Bolivar
Hi every one, Can I use a old Pinnacle PCTV Pro PCI v2.1 (R0B2D) in OpenBSD 3.9 and where can I find information about how to configurate it? Thanks and Regards, Julian Bolivar

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 5/23/06, prad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 17:54, you wrot You can consider short-circuiting of Boolean evaluation greedy, but it a feature which may also save clock cycles if the right-most sub-expressions are costly to evaluate. thanks to all for the responses! what a

Re: Splitting xbaseXY.tgz - stupid idea?

2006-05-22 Thread Lars Hansson
On Monday 22 May 2006 22:28, Liviu Daia wrote: If you still don't get it, my problem is that, with the current policy, three years from now there will be 50+ other ports depending on X for no reason. That's a pretty wild speculation considering the only problem now is that *1* console

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-22 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 5/22/06, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, snip You should install all of them and go nuts and post your findings. I've spent alot of time with php, perl and java. In my world where I only use a single 1U for production it boils down like this: Java is a pig for http. Tasks

OT: DDoS questions

2006-05-22 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
let's say that someone doesn't like me and/or a site that i run and they decide to DDoS me. i have a couple of questions since i'm not too familiar with the mechanics of a DDoS. what are some methods of launching a DDoS attack? what countermeasures can i take against such an attack? feel free

Dell Latitude D620 lock-ups

2006-05-22 Thread Christopher Snell
Hi, Well, now that I have the video issues resolved, I want to track down the source of the lock-ups that I am seeing while running this laptop and today's snapshot. Anything power-related (unplugging power cord, adjusting screen brightness, attempting to suspend, etc.) locks the laptop up

Re: OT: DDoS questions

2006-05-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 5/23/06, Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's say that someone doesn't like me and/or a site that i run and they decide to DDoS me. i have a couple of questions since i'm not too familiar with the mechanics of a DDoS. what are some methods of launching a DDoS attack? Usually

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-22 Thread Jeremy Huiskamp
*) JSP/Tomcat + chroot + strongly typed + compiled - mostly - complex Possibly my lack of knowledge here, but how are you figuring on having tomcat in chroot? It won't be in apache's.

Re: ifficiency

2006-05-22 Thread Liviu Daia
On 23 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original message from prad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: suppose that you have 2 conditions A and B where B take a lot of effort to determine (eg looking for a string match in a huge file). either A or B needs to be true before you can execute 'this'.

Re: OT: DDoS questions

2006-05-22 Thread Eric Pancer
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 22:52:53 -0500, Jacob Yocom-Piatt proclaimed... what are some methods of launching a DDoS attack? syn floods (old skool), udp floods, lots of small packets, icmp floods, whatever. my favorite is seeing a host flooded with protocol 50nearly everyone passes it and hardly

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