* Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk [2012-06-04 21:00]:
It seems to me it would be more sensible to stick a disklabel
inside a new OpenBSD GPT partition type.
go ahead, show your code, then we can talk about it.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services,
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 09:44:35AM +1000, David Diggles wrote:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 04:32:19PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
Nick Holland [n...@holland-consulting.net] wrote:
* you don't want to fsck a 3TB file system, 'specially if it is
rebuilding the mirror at the same time, though
On 06/05/2012 07:40 AM, David Diggles wrote:
...
What a bummer, the Dell Precision 690 I am currently trying does not support
2TB
on its SAS or SATA controller.
Oddly, the SATA controller presents it correctly as 2.8T, but it will not mount.
The SAS controller on the other hand, presents it
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 09:40:15AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
On 06/05/2012 07:40 AM, David Diggles wrote:
...
What a bummer, the Dell Precision 690 I am currently trying does not
support 2TB
on its SAS or SATA controller.
Oddly, the SATA controller presents it correctly as 2.8T, but it
2012/6/1 Tyler Morgan tyl...@tradetech.net:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives 2TB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
Can OpenBSD already boot from a 4TB drive on an UEFI system?
Try to buy systems
Of course, it isn't /quite/ that simple. GPT is still fairly new, and
whilst it's not too difficult to get a number of operating systems to boot
from GPT, sharing a disk has a number of gotchas.
Exposing dormant OpenBSD partitions to an untrusted OS is stupid unless you
have no other choice like
On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present
itself as defender of freedom, but it's really an evolution of PCs
running black-box code when and where it can do most harm.
In fact, RH betrayed the OSS community by not
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 12:16:26AM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:39:18PM +0200, Tobias Ulmer said that
these must be some really nice disks :]
for example only a 200G slice (also 64k/8k) of music/film/picture
collection (not even full yet) on a
On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present
itself as defender of freedom
I meant that sarcastically
-- p
On Mon Jun 4 2012 11:46, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present
itself as defender of freedom
I meant that sarcastically
Sure you did. I just wanted to highlight this point even more.
On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present
itself as defender of freedom, but it's really an evolution of PCs
running black-box code when and where it can do most harm.
In fact, RH betrayed the OSS community
It's not
Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote:
GPT is a foregone conclusion unless you are blind to the future. The only
alternative is OS specific disk hackery, and that does no-one any favours.
Well, OpenBSD/i386 (and now /amd64) has used such hackery since the
very beginning and doesn't fare
On 4 June 2012 15:06, Christian Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de wrote:
Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote:
GPT is a foregone conclusion unless you are blind to the future. The only
alternative is OS specific disk hackery, and that does no-one any
favours.
Well, OpenBSD/i386 (and
I don't have a particular issue with most of the disk hackery that OpenBSD
currently performs, but the key detail is that at least under x86, powermac
and sgi platforms [1] it seems to work within the boundaries of the native
disk partitioning by using a custom disk format, performing custom
hmm, on Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:44:22AM +, Christian Weisgerber said that
Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote:
I just fsck'ed a 2.7TB filesystem in 1 minute, 43 seconds.
61% full, 447166 files.
What CPU and how much RAM? SATA2 or 3?
Even more important: block size,
hmm, on Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:06:24PM +, Christian Weisgerber said that
Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca wrote:
I'm trying to add a pair of 3TB drives to my workstation, which I plan
on turning into a ~3TB RAID 1 array, and seem to be having difficulty
realizing the full size
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:09:16PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:44:22AM +, Christian Weisgerber said that
Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote:
I just fsck'ed a 2.7TB filesystem in 1 minute, 43 seconds.
61% full, 447166 files.
What CPU and
hmm, on Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:39:18PM +0200, Tobias Ulmer said that
these must be some really nice disks :]
for example only a 200G slice (also 64k/8k) of music/film/picture
collection (not even full yet) on a notebook disk (5400 RPM) takes ages:
Filesystem SizeUsed Avail
Can we please differentiate GPT from EFI. GPT may be part of the EFI
specification, but it's a standalone piece - implementing GPT is not going
to restrict anyone's freedom to do what they want with a machine. Some
possibilities EFI offers are more contentious..
GPT is a foregone conclusion
Can we please differentiate GPT from EFI. GPT may be part of the EFI
specification, but it's a standalone piece - implementing GPT is not going
to restrict anyone's freedom to do what they want with a machine. Some
possibilities EFI offers are more contentious..
You are turning it upside
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote:
Can we please differentiate GPT from EFI. GPT may be part of the EFI
specification, but it's a standalone piece - implementing GPT is not going
to restrict anyone's freedom to do what they want with a machine. Some
Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote:
I just fsck'ed a 2.7TB filesystem in 1 minute, 43 seconds.
61% full, 447166 files.
What CPU and how much RAM? SATA2 or 3?
Even more important: block size, fragment size, # of inodes?
Default values all the way. 64k/8k.
Filesystem Size
On 6/1/2012 10:04 AM, Scott McEachern wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping that I'm missing something simple (like usual) and maybe
someone could straighten me out.
I'm trying to add a pair of 3TB drives to my workstation, which I plan
on turning into a ~3TB RAID 1 array, and seem to be having
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 01:04:54PM -0400, Scott McEachern wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping that I'm missing something simple (like usual) and maybe
someone could straighten me out.
I'm trying to add a pair of 3TB drives to my workstation, which I
plan on turning into a ~3TB RAID 1
2012/6/1 Tyler Morgan tyl...@tradetech.net:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives 2TB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
Can OpenBSD already boot from a 4TB drive on an UEFI system?
Best
Martin
Otto gave you a good answer here, but I had already provided lots of
detail, so I'm sending anyway. :)
On 06/01/2012 01:04 PM, Scott McEachern wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping that I'm missing something simple (like usual) and maybe
someone could straighten me out.
I'm trying to add a pair
2012/6/1 Tyler Morgan tyl...@tradetech.net:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives 2TB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
Can OpenBSD already boot from a 4TB drive on an UEFI system?
Try to buy systems
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:26:41PM +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote:
2012/6/1 Tyler Morgan tyl...@tradetech.net:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives 2TB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
Can OpenBSD
On 06/01/2012 03:26 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
2012/6/1 Tyler Morgantyl...@tradetech.net:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives2TB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
Can OpenBSD already boot from a 4TB
Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca wrote:
I'm trying to add a pair of 3TB drives to my workstation, which I plan
on turning into a ~3TB RAID 1 array, and seem to be having difficulty
realizing the full size of the drives.
The partition table in the MBR is limited to 32-bit numbers.
512
On 06/01/2012 03:41 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
2012/6/1 Tyler Morgantyl...@tradetech.net:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives2TB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
Can OpenBSD already boot from a 4TB drive
On the other hand, GPT by itself appears useful.
What is useful about GPT? *EVERY USER* has the following
simple requirements:
1. I have a machine.
2. I want to install an operating system on it (or, have an
operating system installed from the factory)
What am I missing -- what
On 06/01/2012 04:55 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
On the other hand, GPT by itself appears useful.
What is useful about GPT? *EVERY USER* has the following
simple requirements:
1. I have a machine.
2. I want to install an operating system on it (or, have an
operating system
The apparent advantage of GPT over FDISK partitions is that it
can describe partitions 2TB for systems hosting multiple
OSes. That's all I meant. Sorry that it wasn't clear.
US-based missile-armed predator drones by themselves appear useful.
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012, at 03:27 PM, Nick Holland wrote:
Otto gave you a good answer here, but I had already provided lots of
detail, so I'm sending anyway. :)
On 06/01/2012 01:04 PM, Scott McEachern wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping that I'm missing something simple (like usual) and
Nick Holland [n...@holland-consulting.net] wrote:
* you don't want to fsck a 3TB file system, 'specially if it is
rebuilding the mirror at the same time, though with 12G RAM, you
might be able to do it.
Isn't this situation seriously improved with fsck in 5.1 ?
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012, at 03:27 PM, Nick Holland wrote:
Otto gave you a good answer here, but I had already provided lots of
detail, so I'm sending anyway. :)
On 06/01/2012 01:04 PM, Scott McEachern wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping that I'm missing something simple (like usual)
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 04:32:19PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
Nick Holland [n...@holland-consulting.net] wrote:
* you don't want to fsck a 3TB file system, 'specially if it is
rebuilding the mirror at the same time, though with 12G RAM, you
might be able to do it.
Isn't this
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:41:21 -0600
Theo de Raadt wrote:
UEFI arrived with all sorts of promises of making machines better, but
is being turned into something completely nefarious.
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement
Imagine if it came out before Vista and
On 2012-06-01, Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net wrote:
Nick Holland [n...@holland-consulting.net] wrote:
* you don't want to fsck a 3TB file system, 'specially if it is
rebuilding the mirror at the same time, though with 12G RAM, you
might be able to do it.
Isn't this situation seriously
David Diggles da...@elven.com.au wrote:
I fsck'd two 3TB filesystems yesterday with 512MB ram, on 5.1...
it took a while, but worked.
I just fsck'ed a 2.7TB filesystem in 1 minute, 43 seconds.
61% full, 447166 files.
--
Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
On 06/01/12 15:13, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
Do a 'b *' command here, see the man page. That will make the whole
disk available and the a command will do what you expect. -Otto
Thank-you Otto and others for your assistance, that did the trick!
I got both drives online, and set them up as a RAID 1
On 06/01/12 20:54, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
David Digglesda...@elven.com.au wrote:
I fsck'd two 3TB filesystems yesterday with 512MB ram, on 5.1...
it took a while, but worked.
I just fsck'ed a 2.7TB filesystem in 1 minute, 43 seconds.
61% full, 447166 files.
What CPU and how much RAM?
On 06/01/12 19:18, Eric Furman wrote:
Looks like Nick and OBSD could use a Donation.
Anyone here in the community willing to step up
and donate a couple 3TB drives?
I would if I could so I understand if some people can't,
but I'm sure there are a few people out there.
I'm willing to step up.
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:06:28PM -0400, Scott McEachern wrote:
On 06/01/12 20:54, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
David Digglesda...@elven.com.au wrote:
I fsck'd two 3TB filesystems yesterday with 512MB ram, on 5.1...
it took a while, but worked.
I just fsck'ed a 2.7TB filesystem in 1
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