Re: newbie: gpg confusion, various shell commands

2001-12-07 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-07 07:03]: One thing I wish Mutt had, that The Bat! has, is a template system. In other words: Hi %UCFirst=%OFromFName, On %OLongDate, %OFromFName wrote: %Wrapped='%Quotes' %Cursor %Cookie=~/fortune That used macros (not really the same as Mutt

Re: scripting/batchmode

2001-12-07 Thread Paul Roberts Student lab engineer
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:56:33PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:12:14PM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: Cron will mail the standard output and error to you by default. Try appending the following to the end of the cron command: 21 /dev/null If i'm not

Re: LWN

2001-12-07 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2001-12-06 23:35:43 +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: In particular, evolution (1) is bad at noticing PGP errors, (2) doesn't support rules like always encrypt mail to so-and-so and (3) replies to encrypted messages with quoted, unencrypted bodies by default (a *serious* security hole that

Fw: Re: [LIH] mutt and gpg

2001-12-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Just FYI ... this is pretty good as far as I can see. - Forwarded message from USM Bish [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: USM Bish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:31:19 +0530 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIH] mutt and gpg User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at

Re: LWN

2001-12-07 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-07 10:42]: In particular, evolution (1) is bad at noticing PGP errors, (2) doesn't support rules like always encrypt mail to so-and-so and (3) replies to encrypted messages with quoted, unencrypted bodies by default (a *serious* security hole that

Re: Email HowTo [was: Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail]

2001-12-07 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, * Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-07 11:30]: I'm writing [somewhat slowly] an email howto which covers mutt (among other things). It's aimed at helping unix newbies grok the new terminology (MUA, MTA, MDA), and set their machines up for email the hard way (ie.

Re: scripting/batchmode

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Sheppard
On 2001-12-07 (Friday) at 09:46:26 +, Paul Roberts wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:56:33PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: Cron will mail the standard output and error to you by default. Try appending the following to the end of the cron command: 21 /dev/null If i'm not

Re: (New mails) Where is the problem origin?

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Tatge
Schnagl, Angelika muttered: Hallo Thorsten, Du schriebst am 06-Dez-2001: [Filename: LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.txt.vbs, Content-Type: UUEncoded] Du hast mit dieser Mail den Virus LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.txt.vbs verschickt. Bitte sorge dafür, dass Deine weiteren Mails ohne Viren-Attachment

Re: scripting/batchmode

2001-12-07 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:07:22AM +, Mark Sheppard wrote: On 2001-12-07 (Friday) at 09:46:26 +, Paul Roberts wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:56:33PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: Cron will mail the standard output and error to you by default. Try appending the following to the

Re: newbie: gpg confusion, various shell commands

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Brian -- ...and then Brian Clark said... % * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Dec 05. 2001 23:40]: % % Flamewars aside, if you ever have to use Windows, TheBat! is actually % an exceptional MUA. (unless one wanted to use Mutt with Cygwin(sp?).) % % i have heard that becky! is pretty good

Re: newbie: gpg confusion, various shell commands

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Brian -- ...and then Brian Clark said... % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Dec 06. 2001 06:06]: % % % me wonder why the author(s) of Mutt didn't go ahead and add in support % % for clear signing that's on par with its PGP/MIME ease of use. % % Well, it is; just set $pgp_create_traditional

Re: Checking new mail - The Solution

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Curt -- ...and then Curt W. Zirzow said... % * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... % To expand a little on this. Since I happen to be responding to Curt's followup ... % % For some bizarre reason Slackware is distributed with % % biff y % % In it's /etc/profile. *snort*

Re: displaying name of attachment in title bar

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Eric -- ...and then Eric Smith said... % Well I am not sure what you call that information bar above the % pager. But would it not be useful if the names of the % attachments of the current email were listed there - % or is there another view in mutt that may achieve this. You could hit 'v'

Re: (New mails) Where is the problem origin?

2001-12-07 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-07 13:11]: % [Filename: LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.txt.vbs, Content-Type: UUEncoded] % % Du hast mit dieser Mail den Virus LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.txt.vbs % verschickt. Bitte sorge dafür, dass Deine weiteren Mails % ohne Viren-Attachment ankommen. Gotcha ;-)

Re: Checking new mail - The Solution

2001-12-07 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:28:32AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Curt -- ...and then Curt W. Zirzow said... % * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... % To expand a little on this. Since I happen to be responding to Curt's followup ... % % For some bizarre reason Slackware is

Re: Email HowTo [was: Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail]

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Roman -- ...and then Roman Neuhauser said... % ... % simply by screwing around with the program. A HOWTO would have been % very helpful.] % % I'm writing [somewhat slowly] an email howto which covers mutt I'd love to see it! You might also see how you could contribute to the

Re: Checking new mail - The Solution

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Cliff, et al -- ...and then Cliff Sarginson said... % On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:28:32AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Curt -- % % ...and then Curt W. Zirzow said... % % * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... % Since I happen to be responding to Curt's followup ... ... % % % % The

Very OT [ Was Re: Checking new mail - The Solution ]

2001-12-07 Thread Cliff Sarginson
Hmmm... Hokay; I suppose that's certainly a possibility. Not that comsat should necessarily left on, but I don't like dangling programs that don't work being started every time one (boots|logs in). It isn't clean, ya know? This is completely off topic but I *dare* you to go to

Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Eric -- ...and then Eric Kidd said... % On Thu, 2001-12-06 at 14:54, Robert R. Wal wrote: % You can also give messages weight based on all obnoxious criteria and % limit, tag, or delete them based on their weight. % % Nice! Evolution is pretty deficient at scoring, which I consider to be % a

Re: Very OT [ Was Re: Checking new mail - The Solution ]

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Cliff -- ...and then Cliff Sarginson said... % Hmmm... Hokay; I suppose that's certainly a possibility. Not that % comsat should necessarily left on, but I don't like dangling programs % that don't work being started every time one (boots|logs in). It isn't % clean, ya know? % % This is

Re: (New mails) Where is the problem origin?

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Thorsten -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % Hi, Hello again! % % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-07 13:11]: ... % % Gotcha ;-) % Didn't even take long. I use this sig for about a week now. I *love* it. Thanks! Now to come up with a better translation than babelfish did :-) %

Re: (New mails) Where is the problem origin?

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Angelika -- ...and then Schnagl, Angelika said... % Hi, on 7-Dez-2001 I wrote: % % Hallo Thorsten, Du schriebst am 06-Dez-2001: % ... % Thorsten % -- % Content-Type: text/plain % Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit % % [Filename: LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.txt.vbs, Content-Type: UUEncoded]

Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail

2001-12-07 Thread Rich Kulawiec
I find grepmail (http://grepmail.sourceforge.net) very handy for this purpose. ---Rsk

A couple of probably dumb questions :)

2001-12-07 Thread Steven Schneider
Hi, I've only been using Mutt for awhile and have been on the Mutt mailing list for a little while longer. Figuring out how to get Mutt + Fetchmail to work wasn't too hard, once I corrected an error in my firewall config file (This only took me about three or so months) and am glad I did.

Re: (New mails) Where is the problem origin?

2001-12-07 Thread Paul Roberts Student lab engineer
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:23:48AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Angelika -- ...and then Schnagl, Angelika said... % Hi, on 7-Dez-2001 I wrote: % % Hallo Thorsten, Du schriebst am 06-Dez-2001: % ... % Thorsten % -- % Content-Type: text/plain % Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Re: (New mails) Where is the problem origin?

2001-12-07 Thread David T-G
Paul, et al -- -- ...and then Paul Roberts Student lab engineer said... % On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:23:48AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Angelika -- ... % % Sorry for my writing before thinking. I really thought there % % were great danger ... % % No problem :-) % % I'm curious: why did

Change pgp_replyencrypt default?

2001-12-07 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2001-12-07 11:34:16 +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: Does that mean that the default configuration is improper? It kind of depends. Personally, I prefer setting pgp_replyencrypt (and, for that matter, pgp_replysign - but that's not critical in any way). So, from my side there's

Re: (New mails) Where is the problem origin?

2001-12-07 Thread Paul Roberts Student lab engineer
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:57:09AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Paul, et al -- -- ...and then Paul Roberts Student lab engineer said... % On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:23:48AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Angelika -- ... % % Sorry for my writing before thinking. I really thought there % % were

Re: mutt via rxvt/gnome-terminal -- push ignored sometimes

2001-12-07 Thread Ben Compton
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:37:41AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Ben -- I'm way out of my league, so I needn't bother quoting specifics, but have you tried creating a test muttrc which says simply source $HOME/.mutt/muttrc push display-message Indeed I did try that. I should have

(OT)Mail::Audit and formail (Was: Re: A couple of...)

2001-12-07 Thread Martin Karlsson
Hi Thorsten et al. * Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Procmail is indeed a close relative to Sendmail, it's rc file syntax is bloody. I propose Mail::Audit if you know Perl, Maildrop otherwise. I did some reading-up on Mail::Audit, and it seems real nice. However, I have some

Re: scripting/batchmode

2001-12-07 Thread Curt W. Zirzow
* Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:12:14PM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: Hallo, I want mutt to move some mails from one archive folder to another (compressed) one. Since this lasts some time on my old computer, I want to do it via a cron job.

Re: (OT)Mail::Audit and formail

2001-12-07 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hej, * Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-07 17:28]: * Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Procmail is indeed a close relative to Sendmail, it's rc file syntax is bloody. I propose Mail::Audit if you know Perl, Maildrop otherwise. I did some reading-up on Mail::Audit, and it seems

Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail

2001-12-07 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Also grepm (http://www.barsnick.net/sw/grepm.html) which interfaces grepmail with mutt. Anyone have an alternate URL for this, or maybe just a tarball that you could drop in an email to me? I don't seem to be able to get to this site from either home or work. Thanks...! KEN -- Kenneth J.

Bug Report

2001-12-07 Thread Ralph Geier
I found the following bug in Mutt 1.2.5 / 1.3.24 - first, save your 'mbox'-file (i.e. the folder where read mail is saved), it will be corrupted after trying the following! - assume you have 1 new message in your spool mailbox (i.e. incoming mail) - call mutt, have a look at the message,

Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail

2001-12-07 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:05:14AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: Also grepm (http://www.barsnick.net/sw/grepm.html) which interfaces grepmail with mutt. Anyone have an alternate URL for this, or maybe just a tarball that you could drop in an email to me? I don't seem to be able to get

Re: Checking new mail - The Solution

2001-12-07 Thread Curt W. Zirzow
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cliff, et al -- ...and then Cliff Sarginson said... % On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:28:32AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Curt -- % % ...and then Curt W. Zirzow said... % % * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % % % biff (named after the

Re: Email HowTo [was: Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail]

2001-12-07 Thread Prahlad Vaidyanathan
Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] So... I would really like to get some info from others: what parts of mutt's documentation have you found lacking? What are your patterns of use of mutt, and did you have hard time setting it up

Re: the trouble with charset Windows-1252

2001-12-07 Thread Cristian
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:19:53AM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Baurjan Ismagulov said... I also suffer from the same problem. In such cases, I don't use any external programs; instead, I view-attachments, ^Edit-type, and override the charset. That's one way to do it. It looks

Re: Bug Report

2001-12-07 Thread Prahlad Vaidyanathan
Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snipped out 3460 lines !! --] 2 things - * Please don't send such big attachments on the list. If you want everyone to read a file, just put it up somewhere and post the link. I have a dialup connection to the net, and

Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail

2001-12-07 Thread Prahlad Vaidyanathan
Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] You might check out http://mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net Is this project still working ? I just checked out the page, and the list has _very_ low activity. If the maintainer(s) are on the list, do reply.

Re: Bug Report

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Tatge
Ralph Geier muttered: I found the following bug in Mutt 1.2.5 / 1.3.24 - first, save your 'mbox'-file (i.e. the folder where read mail is saved), it will be corrupted after trying the following! - assume you have 1 new message in your spool mailbox (i.e. incoming mail) - call

Re: Change pgp_replyencrypt default?

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Elkins
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:50:03PM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: It kind of depends. Personally, I prefer setting pgp_replyencrypt (and, for that matter, pgp_replysign - but that's not critical in any way). So, from my side there's absolutely no objection against changing this default,

Bugged ! [ Was Re: Bug Report ]

2001-12-07 Thread Cliff Sarginson
Jeez hombre.. Why didn't you send your photo album as well ? Was the whole of your .muttrc required to compliment the problem reported. I for one won't be reading it. -- Regards Cliff

manual suggestion

2001-12-07 Thread Ken Weingold
I think it would be really cool in the manual to see at what version of mutt each config variable came in. -Ken

Re: displaying name of attachment in title bar

2001-12-07 Thread Eric Smith
According to David T-G on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:31:30AM -0500: Eric -- ...and then Eric Smith said... % Well I am not sure what you call that information bar above the % pager. But would it not be useful if the names of the % attachments of the current email were listed there - % or

Holy biff(1), Batman! (was Re: Checking new mail - The Solution)

2001-12-07 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:28:32AM -0500 I heard the voice of David T-G, and lo! it spake thus: % % The appalling biff program requires comsat to do it's job, so that % is why I guess Slackware has it enabled. So the real fix would be to modify /etc/profile rather than simply turn off

Re: Holy biff(1), Batman! (was Re: Checking new mail - The Solution)

2001-12-07 Thread Cleber S. Mori
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:36:45PM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: ... deliver the message to the tty. Turn off comsat, and you'll still (probably) get packets sent to it by the MTA. Turn off biff/comsat notification in the MTA (or maybe the MDA, not entirely sure), and you'll stop getting

Re: mutt via rxvt/gnome-terminal -- push ignored sometimes

2001-12-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 06:47:38PM -0800, Ben Compton wrote: Hey all, I've encountered a weird problem -- I'm setting up xbuffy to launch new terminals, and those terminals to open up mutt pointing at a specific mailbox sometimes, though, when you pass the mutt command off to the

Re: A couple of probably dumb questions :)

2001-12-07 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Will Yardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Steven Schneider wrote: What program is the best to use for sorting my incoming messages into different folders? I've heard that Procmail is user-hell, but I know people who swear by it. Is there a better program to use, or is Procmail the

Re: A couple of probably dumb questions :)

2001-12-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a look at Gnus too, mainly because people seem to think it handles things like [crap] in subjects an dupes really well; From the Gnus manual: Duplicate suppression is not a very subtle instrument. It's more like a sledge hammer than

Re: A couple of probably dumb questions :)

2001-12-07 Thread Will Yardley
Samuel Padgett wrote: From the Gnus manual: Duplicate suppression is not a very subtle instrument. It's more like a sledge hammer than anything else. It works in a very simple fashion--if you have marked an article as read, it adds this Message-ID to a cache. The next

Re: A couple of probably dumb questions :)

2001-12-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you can do the exact same thing with a simple procmail recipe. Nifty. it can be argued (and as the gnus manual points out) that this might be unreliable. Yeah. The manual goes on to give this tip: Here's a neat feature: If you know that the