[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-18 Thread GibbonsSoinne
One thing I like about NSP is the way vibrato alters the colour, rather than the volume of a note. You can emphasise higher harmonics this way, and Billy Pigg seemed to use this a lot in The Lark in the Clear Air, for example. As for apples and potatoes - in Cologne they have 'Hi

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-17 Thread Colin
write it) and, if so, ignore me but I just can't see a point in comparing apples and potatoes (you choose which is which). Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "Richard York" To: "Anthony Robb" ; "NSP group" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:28

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-17 Thread Richard York
I'll think more on what he meant when I have more time! For expression - I quite agree with you on fiddle tunes. On the other hand, there are expressive tunes written primarily for pipes, surely, where they sound superbly best on pipes? And it is truly hard for anyone to make them work with th

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-17 Thread Tim Rolls
This seems to be a feature of a great many Victorian literary works in my experience. Unfortunately it's a feature which seems to be infectious. Tim On 17 Dec 2010, at 20:33, Francis Wood wrote: > > On 17 Dec 2010, at 16:44, Tim Rolls wrote: > >> Discuss! > > One of the most remarkable qualit

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-17 Thread Tim Rolls
Hi John, Interesting that the extract gives you that impression. Having read the whole document I didn't infer that. I tried to isolate the particular part that led me to feel that way, but failed. I think you may need to set aside quarter of an hour and read the whole thing which is in essence

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Dec 2010, at 16:44, Tim Rolls wrote: > Discuss! One of the most remarkable qualities of this paper is Doubleday's extraordinary talent for using a colossal number of words to say absolutely nothing of any importance. A very narrow bore, in my view. Perhaps I'm being too unkind to him.

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-17 Thread Julia Say
On 17 Dec 2010, John Dally wrote: > Mr. Doubleday > I would like to know more about the cultural context of the document. > What prompted Doubleday to write this? Here's a bit about him as a starter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Doubleday Julia To get on or off this list see list i

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-17 Thread John Dally
Mr. Doubleday takes great pains to prove his sophistication. Even allowing for how the sense of some of the words used have changed since he wrote them, it appears that Doubleday was not enthusiastic about the NSP or NSPipers in general. So, are we to trust his judgement overall? On the one hand

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-17 Thread Anthony Robb
Hello Tim Wonderful stuff! Discuss? I'll have to print off, re-read (probably several times) and inwardly digest it first. It has, however, already given me a warm glow which more than compensates for the sub -zero temperature outside. Cheers Anthony -- To get on o

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-17 Thread Tim Rolls
Just when you thought it was all over, it seems it depends upon your point of view, and this may depend on your position in the history. Below an extract from Mr. Thomas Doubleday's letter to the Duke of Northumberland. date a bit difficult due to Google's OCR not coping with Roman dates, but m

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-16 Thread Richard York
The only fitting response to this seems to me to picture the Charlie Brown cartoons - the image of Charlie with a sort of horizontal but wiggly line for his mouth - know the one I mean? Richard. On 15/12/2010 12:09, Francis Wood wrote: On 15 Dec 2010, at 12:05, Gibbons, John wrote: But Ro

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-15 Thread Francis Wood
On 15 Dec 2010, at 12:05, Gibbons, John wrote: > But Rob illustrates a simple feather duster - the 17 keyed ones are musically > far more versatile... Is that a Peacock feather duster? Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/ind

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-15 Thread Gibbons, John
e musically far more versatile... John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of rob@milecastle27.co.uk Sent: 15 December 2010 10:05 To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: key question Morning - for those who hanker after multi-key

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-15 Thread rob . say
Morning - for those who hanker after multi-key extended chanters (or are wondering at the minutiae of what is being discussed) here's a little exercise that will demonstrate one of the key differences. First; take a pencil and hold it as you would a chanter - almost no effort is required to

[NSP] Re: key question

2010-12-15 Thread Julia Say
On 15 Dec 2010, John Dally wrote: > But try playing 'Bigg Market Lasses' without a Bb key. The composer does! (Or did) A careful slide/roll with the A finger... >But if seventeen keys >are a guilty pleasure, what is the "right" number? My personal answer is 14 (no Bbs, no low D#), for

[NSP] Re: a key question for NSPipers

2010-12-14 Thread calecm
Allow me to offer a totally different perspective on how to answer this question: Can you already play all the tunes you want to play with the chanter you have now? Are there no tunes that you've set aside for when you thought you had improved to the point where you could actually play them?

[NSP] Re: a key question for NSPipers

2010-12-14 Thread Matt Seattle
When a high C# comes in a tune I play middle C# and it's not too bad. Anthony Yes - City of Savannah is the one that first springs to mind, and the others I can think of are also not pipe tunes ... -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dar

[NSP] Re: a key question for NSPipers

2010-12-14 Thread Anthony Robb
s the hole would have to be cut into the reed staple itself. Ouch!! When a high C# comes in a tune I play middle C# and it's not too bad. Anthony --- On Tue, 14/12/10, John Dally wrote: From: John Dally Subject: [NSP] Re: a key question for NSPipers To: barr...@nsp

[NSP] Re: a key question for NSPipers

2010-12-14 Thread Anthony Robb
Hello John Like everything else it is a compromise and also depends on what you want to play. Having said that a point will be reached when increased physical effort makes it harder to play sensitively. The first 17 key chanter I ever tried was a Clough - Picknell one which had b

[NSP] Re: a key question for NSPipers

2010-12-14 Thread John Dally
High and low C# are the ones I'm missing, as well as middle and low Bbs. The high C# might be better utilized as a high C. I'm probably exposing a gross ignorance by speculating which keys at the top of the chanter would be most useful. On 12/14/10, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: > So, which 13 k

[NSP] Re: a key question for NSPipers

2010-12-14 Thread Rick Damon
Great question, John. I'm sure there are people who get the extra keys because the look cool, but I'd hope that you'd not get the bigger chanter until you "needed" it. By that I mean that you need it to play the music you want to play. I started out with at 7-key set, and I'm glad I did. I th

[NSP] Re: Clogging

2010-12-14 Thread Richard York
I had various replies to this off list, so hope you don't mind a massed on-list reply. Thanks for them too, and apologies for a slight delay, we were busy becoming grandparents for the first time & were bit pre-occupied and very pleased!! I realise various people had various reservations ab

[NSP] Re: Clogging

2010-12-13 Thread Helen Capes
You could set a day for as many NSPipers from around the world to gather in one place for an international NSP flash mob! Me, me, I'll go! Can we do it in New Zealand? Helen To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Clogging

2010-12-13 Thread Colin
seen at least three times now. iPlayer doesn't like my slow dirge of a PC. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "John Dally" To: "Richard York" Cc: "Anthony Robb" ; "NSP group" Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 5:25 PM Subject: [NSP]

[NSP] Re: Clogging

2010-12-13 Thread John Dally
Thanks for the link for the expat viewing software. Too bad they didn't include a piper among the musicians. The thought of a NSP flash-mob appearing in Gray's Square came to mind. It would be interesting to interview a crowd in downtown Newcastle about whether or not they know about NSP. How

[NSP] Re: TV

2010-12-12 Thread Michael Simone
[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 7:23 AM To: Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Re: TV Thanks Rob, that looks just the job! Anthony --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Rob Say wrote: From: Rob Say Subject: [NSP] Re: TV To: nsp

[NSP] Re: TV

2010-12-12 Thread Anthony Robb
Thanks Rob, that looks just the job! Anthony --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Rob Say wrote: From: Rob Say Subject: [NSP] Re: TV To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 12 December, 2010, 9:20 Morning - I have heard of a thing called Expat Shield: [1]http

[NSP] Re: TV

2010-12-12 Thread Rob Say
Morning - I have heard of a thing called Expat Shield: http://www.expatshield.com/ I've not used it myself - investigate as much you feel necessary. cheers Rob http://www.milecastle27.co.uk/rob/ On 12/12/2010 02:41, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: Hi Anthony, When I tried to log on I got a cu

[NSP] Re: TV

2010-12-11 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Hi Anthony, When I tried to log on I got a curt message saying that the show wasn't available in my area. Has anyone any ideas on how we benighted folk in North America can watch this program? Richard Anthony wrote: He's the link for the programme on iPlayer if anyone missed it but is

[NSP] Re: Clogging

2010-12-11 Thread Richard York
And a truly smashing hour it was! Cheered up our evening no end, it did. Stuff like this really is what we need now, it was truly inspiring. The 60's Folk prog which followed was a right trip down nostalgia lane :) What's happening to TV? - all this, and last night the super programme by the U

[NSP] Re: Tempo

2010-12-10 Thread Colin
Yes, I understand the need to use a suitable tune for a dance but I was more thinking solo performances (and not only on the pipes) where dancing isn't the object. Over the many years , I have heard so many (as I am sure you have) young players basing their ability on speed rather than on the me

[NSP] Re: BBC4 programmes

2010-12-09 Thread Colin
Nice to reminded that they are, after all, dance tunes and not attempts at a world speed record. :-) Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "John Dally" To: "Tim Rolls" Cc: "NPS Discussion" ; Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: [NSP] Re

[NSP] Re: BBC4 programmes

2010-12-09 Thread John Dally
Here's a YouTube video of English clogging to the Redesdale Hornpipe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qtN669yKck&feature=related I want to show this to everyone who turns hornpipes into reels. ;-) On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Tim Rolls wrote: > A couple of items that might be of interest to

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-12-03 Thread Richard York
Hi Dave, in haste - we have a mad w/e coming up & rehearsing like crazy - thanks greatly for this. I had a quick look & it deserves a lot longer reading, which I'm going to enjoy later on. Best wishes, Richard. On 02/12/2010 21:52, Dave S wrote: Hi Richard, [1]http://bo

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-12-02 Thread Dave S
Hi Richard, [1]http://books.google.lu/books?id=VoQXAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq= %22essays+in+musicology%22&source=bl&ots=ITEFvN0Hii&sig=iIvdnoOEE_CRl_u bQ_wRLOiSuyQ&hl=en&ei=cRD4TOSQMY2dOrX-kbkI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=resul t&resnum=1&ved=0CBEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false The li

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-11-28 Thread Gibbons, John
Of course a drone instrument has its own bass. But the implicit ground either fits or doesn't fit with the drones. Hence the preference, from Dixon onwards, for grounds based on only 2 chords. More complex grounds don't work so well. But did Dixon play along with a cello or bassoon? Peacock certai

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-11-26 Thread Matt Seattle
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Bill <[1]bill_tel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Also is it not the case that when Highland pipers (including these students) pick up a set of Border pipes . the instrument is treated only as an ersatz Highland bagpipe? That is indeed the cas

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-11-26 Thread Bill
Also is it not the case that when Highland pipers (including these students) pick up a set of Border pipes (as quite a few are doing nowadays though usually it's a set of 'Scottish Smallpipes' at first) the instrument is treated only as an ersatz Highland bagpipe? Yes now probably OT so maybe this

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-11-26 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Richard, Scattered thoughts here: What you may be picking up in your listening of those divisions is the profound effect that the Italian violin school (Corelli, Geminiani et al) had on native composers in Scotland. There were also Italian violinists employed in Edinburgh as well as Lond

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-11-25 Thread Matt Seattle
Still, what a shame that the pipers in that program only get an afternoon of something other than Highland music. I'm sure they get plenty more than that, John (they all take a second instrument), but only a tiny wee bit of it is Border piping. -- To get on or off this li

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-11-25 Thread John Dally
>   It's hard to get across to anyone in Scotland that music didn't start >   with the Gows, but it didn't, and the genius of the Scottish fiddle, >   John MacLachlan, flourished c. 1700, and his variation sets on Scots >   tunes set the gold standard. They mainly survive in lute transcriptions >  

[NSP] Re: Pipes with continuo?

2010-11-25 Thread Matt Seattle
Richard, not only is it on topic but it's a very live topic (for me at least). I was lecturing yesterday at Glasgow for the 3rd year Piping Degree students (as Highland pipers they are exposed to two hours of Border pipe music in three years...) and the Dixon variations - which pred

[NSP] Re: semi-OT wireless mic query

2010-11-25 Thread Richard York
That was quick! And interesting indeed. Thanks Anthony, I may well be back to you off list for more! Best wishes, Richard. On 25/11/2010 18:20, Anthony Robb wrote: Hello Richard I use this one when I'm calling: [1]http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~AKG-WMS-40-Pro-Spor

[NSP] Re: How to play Northumbrian Smallpipes with Detached Fingering

2010-11-24 Thread Christopher.Birch
It says Helen Fish at the end, so I assume it's Paul Rhodes ;-) >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say >Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:05 AM >To: NSP group; Richard Evans >Subject

[NSP] Re: How to play Northumbrian Smallpipes with Detached Fingering

2010-11-24 Thread Julia Say
On 23 Nov 2010, Richard Evans wrote: > Excellent instructional video. > I don't know who did this, but it's superb! I believe the perpetrator is either Helen Fish or Paul Rhodes. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Bill
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: 23 November 2010 13:52 To: Bill; Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site Subject: [NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme bill, i programmed it on satellite at 15:30 european time -bbc r7 ciao dave On 11/23/2010 2:18 PM, Bill

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Dave S
bill, i programmed it on satellite at 15:30 european time -bbc r7 ciao dave On 11/23/2010 2:18 PM, Bill wrote: Bill . . . are you looking at the correct schedule? This is on BBC Radio 7, not Radio Scotland Francis, My first message quotes the url for BBC Radio7 schedules for tod

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Bill
Bill . . . are you looking at the correct schedule? This is on BBC Radio 7, not Radio Scotland Francis, My first message quotes the url for BBC Radio7 schedules for today. The bagpipes prog you quote isn't on the online schedule. So then I looked online again at Radio Scotland's Tom Morton p

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Francis Wood
On 23 Nov 2010, at 12:47, Bill wrote: > Tom Morton's on radio Scotland this pm but I don't see any reference to this > programme Bill . . . are you looking at the correct schedule? This is on BBC Radio 7, not Radio Scotland This is what the BBC site states: > Next on: > > Today, 14:30 on BBC

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Bill
Tom Morton's on radio Scotland this pm but I don't see any reference to this programme -Original Message- From: Bill [mailto:bill_tel...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 23 November 2010 12:38 To: 'Francis Wood'; 'NSP group' Subject: RE: [NSP] BBC Radio bagpipes programme Are you sure? Doesn't fea

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Francis Wood
Yes, perfectly sure. Look at the entry beside 14.30 on the schedule you quote. Additionally, it is detailed here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007k2d3 Francis On 23 Nov 2010, at 12:37, Bill wrote: > Are you sure? > > Doesn't feature in the schedule I'm looking at > > http://www.bbc.co.u

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Bill
Are you sure? Doesn't feature in the schedule I'm looking at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio7/programmes/schedules Bill -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: 23 November 2010 08:57 To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] B

[NSP] Re: BBC Radio bagpipes programme

2010-11-23 Thread Dave S
Francis, many thanks for the tip -- I don't often get to see the radio times !! Dave Singleton On 11/23/2010 9:57 AM, Francis Wood wrote: BBC Radio 7 is broadcasting 'The Secret History of Bagpipes' at 14.30 today Described as 'Tom Morton investigates Pipes and Politics', this item m

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Colin and Cheryl McNaught
Hi Anthony, I did some checking: All Mac browsers worked OK for me (Safari/Firefox/Chrome) but I have Flip4Mac installed (free) which allows Quicktime to play windows media files (in fact the page required me to upgrade to the latest version). I can recommend it to avoid these p

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
The link from the rant to Gaughan's main page doesn't work. Somebody being clueless, I assume. c >-Original Message- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York >Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:41 AM >To:

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
- >From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of A.J.Gilhooley >Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:51 PM >To: Ian Lawther; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >Subject: [NSP] Re: Help please > >Ian, > >Thanks for posting the link to the Dick Gaughan artic

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread A.J.Gilhooley
Ian, Thanks for posting the link to the Dick Gaughan article. It is perhaps even more relevant than ever in today's online world. Also worth a visit is www.internetisshit.org, another discussion of style vs content, the medium not being the message and so on. For a longer read, Andrew Keene's

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Richard York
Thanks, Ian, for this link. Really useful, especially when it leads to Jakob Nielsen's pages, where I can feel virtuous about some bits my own site's design and learn that others need changing quite seriously! Richard. <> When I have had problems like this I often go back and re-read an

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread Tim Rolls
Just to muddy the waters, Safari gives just the titles of the clips,but no sliders to play them, Firefox has nice Quicktime sliders which all work perfectly and individually, will stop and start as requested. Running Snow Leopard on an iMac. Great sound though. Hope this helps Tim On 16 Nov 201

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread Ian Lawther
Ian Lawther wrote: I'm using ubuntu linux and I can't get the clips to play at all - though they do on the Hooky Mat pages. Also the writing on the site overlaps line on line as can be seen from the screen shot attached. It didn't attach so I am trying to embed it. I hope this doesn't mess

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread Ian Lawther
d the clips using Firefox's > DownloadHelper and play them off the hard disc. > My system is quite old (like me). WinXP. > I have no idea why the mediaplayers don't show up at all in Firefox > though. > > Colin Hill > > > - Original Message - From: "Ri

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread Colin
up at all in Firefox though. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: "Richard A. Bennett" To: ; "John Clifford" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:20 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Help please Anthony, I had no problem with your sound clips. (Windows Vista & IE or iPod Touc

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread Richard A. Bennett
Anthony, I had no problem with your sound clips. (Windows Vista & IE or iPod Touch & Safari) Dick Hello Folks May I ask for your help to see if you experience all clips playing automatically and simultaneously (OUCH!!) when viewing my website www.robbpipes.com It seems fine from this end b

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread Julia Say
On 16 Nov 2010, John Clifford wrote: > I can add that I've had the same result as Rick and Sheila It happens here as well (Firefox on windows in one case, Linux in the other) Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread John Clifford
Anthony, I can add that I've had the same result as Rick and Sheila with Firefox on a MacBook. My wife shouted from the next room "What's That??!" John Clifford East Kilbride On 16 Nov 2010, at 21:19, Rick Damon wrote: Ditto to what Sheila said. I just tried it on a Mac with Safari. Als

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread Rick Damon
Ditto to what Sheila said. I just tried it on a Mac with Safari. Also tried it on Windoze with IE. Glad to continue with Firefox or anything else any time you ask, Anthony. --Rick On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:13 PM, bri...@aol.com wrote: > > Sorry, Anthony, but that's the way we 're hearing it also.

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-16 Thread brimor
Sorry, Anthony, but that's the way we 're hearing it also. I know that it sounded interesting when you combined Windy Gyle Slow Air and fast Jig, but "interesting" is not the adjective I'd use for this combination. Sheila -Original Message- From: Anthony Robb To: Chris Almond

[NSP] Re: Looking to get started - was- My little tune sponge....

2010-11-15 Thread Colin and Cheryl McNaught
ail.com> To: "Ian Lawther" <[6]irlawt...@comcast.net> Cc: "NSP group" <[7]...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:42 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: My little tune sponge Hideeho, I am new to the nsp list serve. I play fiddle and a few

[NSP] Re: Looking to get started - was- My little tune sponge....

2010-11-14 Thread Reid Bishop
sets that are currently languishing in a cupboard then we would love to hear from you! - Original Message - From: "Reid Bishop" > To: "Ian Lawther" Cc: "NSP group" Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:42 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: My little tune sponge Hideeh

[NSP] Re: Looking to get started - was- My little tune sponge....

2010-11-14 Thread Julia Say
On 13 Nov 2010, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: > We have two sets of Northumbrian small pipes >if John Leistman doesn't have a set available at this time then > we may be able to help you out. Failing all that, the NPS is currently negotiating to have a hire set permanently lodged on the Ame

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-14 Thread Helen Capes
ember 11, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up' Thanks folks Another fascinating discussion. I first had this tune as a song from Johnny Handle in the late 60s and then sang it often to my own bairns. As 'deary' was no longer in popular use

[NSP] Re: My little tune sponge....

2010-11-13 Thread Honor Hill
3, 2010 4:26 PM To: Francis Wood Cc: Ian Lawther; NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: My little tune sponge What a wonderful piece of information. I just purchased an old biography of John James himself. I need to find the time to read it. I have read a newer biography but it wasn't as i

[NSP] Re: My little tune sponge....

2010-11-13 Thread Reid Bishop
What a wonderful piece of information. I just purchased an old biography of John James himself. I need to find the time to read it. I have read a newer biography but it wasn't as informative about his travels. It isn't going to take much I am afraid to tip me toward nsp's but I am jus

[NSP] Re: My little tune sponge....

2010-11-13 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Reid, Well this sounds like a very finely balanced decision which might not take much to tip it in one direction or the other! So taking a clue from your address, it's known that Audubon visited Thomas Bewick and listened with great pleasure to his son Robert playing Northumberland small

[NSP] Re: My little tune sponge....

2010-11-13 Thread Reid Bishop
Hideeho, I am new to the nsp list serve. I play fiddle and a few other stringed instruments in various Celtic trad styles. My love of Celtic music began when I was 12 listening to Scottish pipers. I am turning 40 this month and have decided at long last that I want to pipe! I play rou

[NSP] Re: W. F. Ord

2010-11-13 Thread Francis Wood
Thanks for all the kind and interesting responses about Fred Ord. Clearly, he was very much liked. I wish I had met him! Francis On 8 Nov 2010, at 14:00, Francis Wood wrote: > An interesting set of pipes has been passed to me for restoration and > fettling. A nicely made classic 7 key set in li

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-11 Thread Gibbons, John
nth...@robbpipes.com] Sent: 11 November 2010 09:20 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; Gibbons, John; julia....@nspipes.co.uk Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up' Thanks folks Another fascinating discussion. I first had this tune as a song from Johnny Handle in the late 60s and then s

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-11 Thread Anthony Robb
quot;laddy come yem" He caals oot agin for more beer 3. Whe Johnny cum yem ti yer bairn Now Johnny cum yem ti yer bairn How Johnny cum yem ti yer bairn With a rye loaf under yer arm --- On Wed, 10/11/10, Julia Say wrote: From: Julia Sa

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
John Gibbons wrote: >the reprint edition has a typo in the > penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning > > g/f/|egB egB... > > instead of > > g/f/|egd egB ... > > as in Peacock itself - see FARNE or the facsimile. > > The typo gives an e minor flavour which doesn't belong, I fe

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Julia Say
On 10 Nov 2010, Gibbons, John wrote: > >the reprint edition has a typo in the > > penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning > > > > g/f/|egB egB... > > > > instead of > > > > g/f/|egd egB ... I agree. This looks like a raw typo, and I am fairly certain it was in no way an edi

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
BTW, does anyone know whether the omission of the dot after the first quaver in, for example, the last bar of the first strain was a convention of the time (given that there was not much music around in 11/16 time) or just an error? c To get on or off this list see list information at http:/

[NSP] Re: W. F. Ord

2010-11-10 Thread Julia Say
On 9 Nov 2010, friendm...@aol.com wrote: > He was an important link > in that delicate chain that kept the NSPs alive during the thin times > of the 40s and 50's. His name, and that of his wife Dorothy often appear in the minutes of the period, frequently as leading work parties doing jobs

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Gibbons, John
h.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up' BTW, does anyone know whether the omission of the dot after the first quaver in, for example, the last bar of the first strain was a convention of the time (given that there was not much music around in 11/16 time) or just an error? c

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Gibbons, John
stopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu Sent: 10 November 2010 09:10 To: Gibbons, John; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up' John Gibbons wrote: >the reprint edition has a typo in the > penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning > > g/f/|egB egB... > &g

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
- we should perhaps >think of a (dissonant) e resolving down on to the d of a G >major tonic chord, Very well put! c John Gibbons wrote: > >>the reprint edition has a typo in the >> penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning >> >> g/f/|egB egB... >> >> instead of >> >> g/f/|egd

[NSP] Re: W. F. Ord

2010-11-09 Thread friendmag1
s Steve Barwick -Original Message- From: Barry Say To: Francis Wood Cc: NSP group Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 10:17 am Subject: [NSP] Re: W. F. Ord Hi Francis, W F Ord was more commonly known as Fred or Freddie Ord. Born 1920, Joined the NPS 1947 Often used to visit Billy Pigg. Worked as an electri

[NSP] Re: W. F. Ord

2010-11-08 Thread Paul Scott
I hired a set of pipes made by Ord this year, from the NPS. As a complete novice I did not know how good they were until I played a few other sets. Paul Dublin On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Francis Wood <[1]oatenp...@googlemail.com> wrote: An interesting set of pipes

[NSP] Re: W. F. Ord

2010-11-08 Thread Barry Say
Hi Francis, W F Ord was more commonly known as Fred or Freddie Ord. Born 1920, Joined the NPS 1947 Often used to visit Billy Pigg. Worked as an electrical engineer at Parsons.At some point redundancy(?) early retirement(?) moved to East Anglia to be involved in a boat building business. Re

[NSP] Re: Slowing down tunes

2010-11-06 Thread Peter Keller
On 11/6/2010 11:37 AM, Julia Say wrote: On 11/6/10 1:20 PM, "Anthony Robb" wrote: I seem to remember Bill Ochs at Killington this year demonstrating software which can slow down normal recordings whilst keeping pitch intact. In addition to the ones mentioned, Audacity 1.2 wil

[NSP] Re: Slowing down tunes

2010-11-06 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, I am a fully paid up licenseholder for the amazingslowdowner from Roni music and can thoroughly recommend it. It can change pitch and speed over a wide range and maintain an acceptable tone-quality. - More on this later I've had a look at seventhstring and it seems very interesting.

[NSP] Re: Slowing down tunes

2010-11-06 Thread Julia Say
> On 11/6/10 1:20 PM, "Anthony Robb" wrote: > > >I seem to remember Bill Ochs at Killington this year demonstrating > >software which can slow down normal recordings whilst keeping pitch > >intact. In addition to the ones mentioned, Audacity 1.2 will do it (free). Audacity 1.3 doe

[NSP] Re: Slowing down tunes

2010-11-06 Thread Steve Bliven
Pardon my butting in here, but the program Bill was advocating is Transcribe! Trial version available at www.seventhstring.com/xscribe/overview.html Looks to be a very useful program as it allows not only slowing down the sounds, but also a graphical analysis of the notes (particularly useful wit

[NSP] Re: Where hast thou been a' the day, waggin' thy hand?

2010-11-06 Thread Gibbons, John
From: Matt Seattle [theborderpi...@googlemail.com] Sent: 06 November 2010 13:42 To: julia@nspipes.co.uk Cc: Gibbons, John; nSP group Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Where hast thou been a' the day, waggin' thy hand? On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Julia Say mailto:jul

[NSP] Re: Slowing down tunes

2010-11-06 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Hi Anthony, Bill Ochs was using a new shareware that slowed down videos while keeping the pitch. That is something I hadn't seen before. If you simply wish to slow down a sound file then The Amazing Slow Downer from Roni Music is a good choice. Visit www.ronimusic.com and click on "software

[NSP] Re: Where hast thou been all the night?

2010-11-06 Thread Colin
"Anthony Robb" To: "Dartmouth NPS" ; "Colin" Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:19 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast thou been all the night? Hello Colin It's not just the nasty tonal quality it is the lifeless, mechanical emptiness of the noise which rankl

[NSP] Re: Where hast thou been a' the day, waggin' thy hand?

2010-11-06 Thread Matt Seattle
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Julia Say <[1]julia@nspipes.co.uk> wrote: On 6 Nov 2010, Julia Say wrote: according to my current prejudice ... some variation sets were written down without the "ground" on the front. (Bobby Shaftoe in Clough MSS is like this and C

[NSP] Re: Where hast thou been a' the day, waggin' thy hand?

2010-11-06 Thread Gibbons, John
in Edinburgh, John From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say [julia@nspipes.co.uk] Sent: 06 November 2010 06:11 To: Matt Seattle; Gibbons, John Cc: nSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast thou been a' the day, waggin' thy h

[NSP] Re: Where hast thou been all the night?

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony Robb
ciate the beauty behind the dots. We now have the technology to send this vital spark of the music around the globe. Wouldn't it be a great idea for musicians to use it? As aye Anthony --- On Fri, 5/11/10, Colin wrote: From: Colin Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast tho

[NSP] Re: Where hast thou been a' the day, waggin' thy hand?

2010-11-05 Thread Julia Say
On 6 Nov 2010, Julia Say wrote: > I think I'm heading in some of the same directions Here's the draft. I've taken a different approach to John, combining the "theme strains" in a different way, according to my current prejudice that some variation sets were written down without the "ground" o

[NSP] Re: Where hast thou been a' the day, waggin' thy hand?

2010-11-05 Thread Julia Say
On 5 Nov 2010, Gibbons, John wrote: > Here's a working draft of a set based on Crawhall. I think I'm heading in some of the same directions, since I can't sleep. Nothing publishable yet. > It needs some editing and probably some bits throwing away. > But it's too late to find out what it pla

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