Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-03-19 Thread Vedran Miletić
2010/3/15 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: I figured out that loading \input spec-tst.mkii before \setupinteraction[state=start] works as expected in MKII (but then - the backward compatibility is broken as well since one would have to load the tex version of that file in past). Loading it after

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-03-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
By the way, XeTeX also breaks, but in a different way. Računalne mreže becomes RaÄ“unalne mreže. Same option also doesn't do anything. MkIV works nicely, and I know I should probably be using that, but LaTeX with hyperref can do unicode bookmarks in both XeTeX and pdfTeX, so it would be

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-03-15 Thread Hans Hagen
On 15-3-2010 14:53, Mojca Miklavec wrote: By the way, XeTeX also breaks, but in a different way. Računalne mreže becomes RaÄ“unalne mreže. Same option also doesn't do anything. MkIV works nicely, and I know I should probably be using that, but LaTeX with hyperref can do unicode bookmarks in

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-03-14 Thread Vedran Miletić
Datuma 8. ožujka 2010. 15:36 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com je napisao/la: does \PDFunicodetrue help No. (I remember there were some threads about that in past though, but I don't remember the outcome.) Mojca It doesn't change anything. By the way, XeTeX also breaks, but

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-03-14 Thread Hans Hagen
On 14-3-2010 22:06, Vedran Miletić wrote: Datuma 8. ožujka 2010. 15:36 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com je napisao/la: does \PDFunicodetrue help No. (I remember there were some threads about that in past though, but I don't remember the outcome.) Mojca It doesn't change

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-03-14 Thread Joshua Lee
Hi Guys, The verbatim or listings of MKIV sucks. Here's a little sample: \definetyping[code][numbering=line] \starttext \startcode ... ... \stopcode \startcode[continue] ... ... \stopcode \startcode[start=10] ... ... \stopcode \typefile[numbering=file]{test.tex} \stoptext It can not work

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-03-05 Thread Vedran Miletić
2010/2/8 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang One very small thing that

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-19 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
Hi everyone, I remembered another capability that I'd love to see integrated with ConTeXt somehow – automated graph layout. It would be great if there were a ConTeXt module that supported GraphXML or another XML graph format, so that users could draw graphs using GUI tools and then let the module

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-14 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne sreda 10. februarja 2010 ob 09:56:37 je Matija Šuklje napisal(a): Dne sreda 10. februarja 2010 ob 09:50:28 je Robert Blackstone napisal(a): I would be very happy if I could make a Bibliography with several sections. (This wish has been expressed on this list before and I just want to

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-14 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 9:43, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-13 Thread John Devereux
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes: On 9-2-2010 19:21, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: I dream of a flexible changebar module (similar to the LaTeX changebar package) with Lua drivers so I can run something like: context --mark-changes foo1 foo2 to produce a (possibly mangled) output TeX file that

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-13 Thread John Devereux
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I asked before why ConTeXt does not

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 13.02.10 13:24, schrieb John Devereux: I asked before why ConTeXt does not flag incorrect parameters, I seem to recall the answer was that it would slow things down too much. But a command line switch to do this would be very useful. Already available for MkIV (mult-chk.mkiv): \starttext

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-13 Thread Eric DÉTREZ
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com a écrit : Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Indeed I miss a huge documentation.

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-13 Thread John Devereux
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes: Am 13.02.10 13:24, schrieb John Devereux: I asked before why ConTeXt does not flag incorrect parameters, I seem to recall the answer was that it would slow things down too much. But a command line switch to do this would be very

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to force a manual line

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 9:43, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Vedran Miletić
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Hello Wolfgang, It would be nice, to specify a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Hello, What about collecting these feature requests

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Vedran Miletić wrote: is * never part of a url then? According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. Still, * can appear unencoded in any url, in either pathinfo or in GET

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 10 févr. 2010 à 03:04, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 10.02.10 10:07, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: 1. French quotation marks \quotation{...} There I should probably dive in the doc cause I'd be surprised nothing is set up for the following issue, but, in French, if we have a quotation in a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 11.02.2010 um 10:37 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 11-2-2010 9:43, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 11 February 2010 11:10:19 Sebastien Mengin wrote: Le 10 févr. 2010 à 03:04, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 10.02.10 10:07, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: 1. French quotation marks \quotation{...} There I should probably dive in the doc cause I'd be surprised nothing is set up

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 11.02.2010 um 11:08 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Vedran Miletić wrote: is * never part of a url then? According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. Still, * can appear

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 11 févr. 2010 à 11:12, Steffen Wolfrum a écrit: I miss a command to force a manual line break at any point in a \hyphenatedurl string. Like, e.g. * in \hyphenatedurl{http://www.a_ridiculous_very_long_alpanum*eric_sequence} +1 also. is * never part of a url then? This was

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Vedran Miletić wrote: According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. So, http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/file*with*stars; is not allowed??? Cheers, Peter --

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Vedran Miletić wrote: According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. So, http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/file*with*stars; is not allowed???

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 10:55, Peter Münster wrote: \setupinterlinespace[line=1cm] % just to make the example more obvious \definetextbackground[myBG][background=color, backgroundcolor=green, % backgroundheight=1ex, % does not work % height=1ex, % does not work frame=off] \starttext bla bla

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: \definebar [backbar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=background] Great, many thanks for this hidden feature! What is the logic behind offset and rulethickness (the units and the reference point)? (I played a bit with

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 14:48, Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: \definebar [backbar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=background] Great, many thanks for this hidden feature! What is the logic behind offset and rulethickness (the units

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Mikael Persson
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Feb 09 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 9-2-2010 23:30, Peter Münster wrote: In the current version of MKIV, there is no support for language-specifics, so there is actually no support for switching back from French to another language. in mkiv language specific features are and will be

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10-2-2010 9:22, Peter Münster wrote: At some point, someone should decide, what is triggered by \mainlanguage[fr] and what is provided by such french-module. For me, \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] is the border case. the problem is that there's always a dominant language in a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10-2-2010 8:55, Alan BRASLAU wrote: $ diff lang-ita.tex lang-ita.tex.orig 268c268 \setuplabeltext [\s!fr] [\v!chapter=Chapitre] --- \setuplabeltext [\s!fr] [\v!chapter=] 276c276 \setuplabeltext [\s!fr] [\v!section=Section] --- \setuplabeltext [\s!fr] [\v!section=] 284c284

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Robert Blackstone
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang I would be very happy if I could make a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne sreda 10. februarja 2010 ob 09:50:28 je Robert Blackstone napisal(a): I would be very happy if I could make a Bibliography with several sections. (This wish has been expressed on this list before and I just want to add my vote to it.) I think it was me (probably amongst others) who

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 09 févr. 2010 à 11:30, Peter Münster a écrit: Hello Sebastien, Hi Peter, Thanks for your interest. Anyway, it was not the latest version. In the current version of MKIV, there is no support for language-specifics, so there is actually no support for switching back from French to

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 09 févr. 2010 à 11:48, Hans Hagen a écrit: 1. the 1. paragraph of each section is indented (LATEX only); 2. the default items in itemize environment 3. vertical spacing in general LATEX lists is shortened; to me these sounds like a design issue, not related to french Note that the frenchb

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 10 févr. 2010 à 09:33, Hans Hagen a écrit: On 10-2-2010 9:22, Peter Münster wrote: At some point, someone should decide, what is triggered by \mainlanguage[fr] and what is provided by such french-module. For me, \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] is the border case. the problem is

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 09:36:10 Hans Hagen wrote: we can add them commented as i don't think that users want to see Chapter 1 every time I have raised this question before. In fact, the strings *should* be defined by the language and some (other) mechanism (option) should activate

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10-2-2010 10:45, Sebastien Mengin wrote: Le 10 févr. 2010 à 09:33, Hans Hagen a écrit: On 10-2-2010 9:22, Peter Münster wrote: At some point, someone should decide, what is triggered by \mainlanguage[fr] and what is provided by such french-module. For me,

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:07:26 Sebastien Mengin wrote: 4. Commands \primo, \secundo, \tertio and \quarto print 1o, 2o, 3o, 4o. \FrenchEnumerate{6} prints 6o. obtained via the commands \No, \Nos, \no, \nos. 6. Two commands are provided to typeset the symbol for \degre

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:52:22 Hans Hagen wrote: On 10-2-2010 10:45, Sebastien Mengin wrote: Le 10 févr. 2010 à 09:33, Hans Hagen a écrit: On 10-2-2010 9:22, Peter Münster wrote: At some point, someone should decide, what is triggered by \mainlanguage[fr] and what is provided by

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10-2-2010 11:12, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:52:22 Hans Hagen wrote: On 10-2-2010 10:45, Sebastien Mengin wrote: Le 10 févr. 2010 à 09:33, Hans Hagen a écrit: On 10-2-2010 9:22, Peter Münster wrote: At some point, someone should decide, what is triggered by

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 11:34:15 you wrote: some english english quote blabla french quote ... makes most sense to me if here we use the english quotes and not the french ones in the second case; I don't do things that way, rather: “some English” followed by « une citation en

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
+1 for this, but they are type1 fonts (legacy) does they support Cyrillic? I would like support for more fonts out of the box (in the minimals). For example it would be really nice to be able to use utopia+fourier (http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/fourier-GUT/ ) charter+mathdesign (

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 10.02.10 10:07, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: 1. French quotation marks \quotation{...} There I should probably dive in the doc cause I'd be surprised nothing is set up for the following issue, but, in French, if we have a quotation in a quotation, the second pair of quotation marks shoud

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 10.02.10 09:00, schrieb Mikael Persson: I would like support for more fonts out of the box (in the minimals). For example it would be really nice to be able to use utopia+fourier ( http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/fourier-GUT/ ) charter+mathdesign (

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 03:50:27 Curiouslearn wrote: I hope (and this perhaps has nothing to do with the brilliant Context development team) is that journals start accepting Context files. While I use context for my personal and class notes, for articles I am still forced to go to latex

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?:

2010-02-09 Thread Robert Blackstone
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 09:29 PM, David Rogers) wrote: ConTeXt itself has beautiful support for side-by-side translations. It makes me happy every time I look at the results. But... it works only on separate pages. Making it work on columns as well would make my life easier. (May be

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread John Haltiwanger
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote: On Tuesday 09 February 2010 03:50:27 Curiouslearn wrote: I hope (and this perhaps has nothing to do with the brilliant Context development team) is that journals start accepting Context files. While I use context for

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 03:50, schrieb Curiouslearn: Nice thread. Thanks for starting this Wolfgang. First of all, Context is great and I love it. I think I miss the geometry package of the latex. It makes setting margins very easy. I think setting margins (left, right, top and bottom) could be easier in

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 6:53, Otared Kavian wrote: Now, that said, I do all my presentations with ConTeXt, and there is one thing which should be added for more ease of use: a stepwise procedure which can do better than the RawSteps module I use (see http://wiki.contextgarden..net/RawSteps), and which

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Vedran Miletić
2010/2/8 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang Ability to change math

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 13:09, schrieb Vedran Miletić: Ability to change math font to modern sans serif. I don't know how to do it in LaTeX, but I know it's possible because beamer does it. In MkIV something like \unprotect \appendtoks \dosetfontattribute\??mo\c!style \to \everymathematics

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 0:40, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0823:20:17, Hans Hagen wrote: On 8-2-2010 23:08, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0822:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: That was it, sorry, I reinstalled minimals and LuaTeX recently and forgot to update ConTeXt. Now the file is processed and I get a pdf file containing the words sortkeys: n id entry and an hrule beneath that. As

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-02-09 15:04:16, Hans Hagen wrote: are those two files present and can they be found? \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][tugboat.bib] \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][komoedie.bib] They were present but somehow minimals don't use the TeXlive tree, so had to symlink them and it's working

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 15:27, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0915:04:16, Hans Hagen wrote: are those two files present and can they be found? \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][tugboat.bib] \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][komoedie.bib] They were present but somehow minimals don't use the TeXlive tree,

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang 1. While TeX has been very strong at typesetting math traditionally its rivals

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 17:31, schrieb Oliver Buerschaper: 3. I'd very much like to second Alan's suggestion to provide containers for text to flow in and out! Perhaps one could even go further and root ConTeXt entire page model in such an approach. After all, it's just text flowing in and out of pages

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 12:55, Peter Münster wrote: On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Sebastien Mengin wrote: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:25:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? An implementation of Unicode

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 18:50, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:25:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/2/8 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? - Stable underlining across line- and

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
I dream of a flexible changebar module (similar to the LaTeX changebar package) with Lua drivers so I can run something like: context --mark-changes foo1 foo2 to produce a (possibly mangled) output TeX file that when built produces a PDF with changebars in the margin,

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:21, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: I dream of a flexible changebar module (similar to the LaTeX changebar package) with Lua drivers so I can run something like: context --mark-changes foo1 foo2 to produce a (possibly mangled) output TeX file that when built produces a PDF with

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 06:56:05PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: On 9-2-2010 18:50, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:25:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Monday 08 February 2010 12:25:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang What I would really

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 19:45, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: What I would really like is an automatic composer, one that would write my papers, books and documentation for me. minimal example: \startext \composebook [title=My best selling novel] \stoptext (notice that the title is optional) However, it

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:45, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Monday 08 February 2010 12:25:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Salaam, Khaled, On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:55 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: IIRC, I reported all of that months ago but I usually get no answer. Are you sure about that? A quick check shows answers...eg

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 12:12:00PM -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Salaam, Khaled, On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:55 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: IIRC, I reported all of that months ago but I usually get no answer. Are you sure about that? A quick

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:50, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: %D For Mojca: %D %D \starttyping %D \def\simplethesis %D {\setupsystem[random=1234] %D \title{\fakewords{3}{4}} %D \placelist[chapter,section] %D \dorecurse{6} %D {\chapter{\fakewords{5}{10}} %D \dorecurse{5} %D {\section{\fakewords{2}{5}} %D

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9-2-2010 19:50, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: %D For Mojca: %D %D \starttyping %D \def\simplethesis %D {\setupsystem[random=1234] %D \title{\fakewords{3}{4}} %D \placelist[chapter,section] %D \dorecurse{6} %D

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 09.02.10 19:45, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: What I would really like is an automatic composer, one that would write my papers, books and documentation for me. minimal example:  \startext  \composebook

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:07, Martin Schröder wrote: 2010/2/8 Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? -

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Feb 09 2010, Sebastien Mengin wrote: Thanks for the link, I failed to use it, as I have a ConTeXt/luaTeX versions distributed by ubuntu/jaunty, which seems to be too old. I should update and give it a try -- later. Hello Sebastien, Anyway, it was not the latest version. In the

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/2/9 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: however, underlining is not really part of fine typography I know. But it's hard to do right in TeX (see the troubles soul.sty brings) and people are used to it. - Document-global optimization of page breaks. Of course with floats,   multicol and parshapes.

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 23:30, Peter Münster wrote: In the current version of MKIV, there is no support for language-specifics, so there is actually no support for switching back from French to another language. in mkiv language specific features are and will be part of the mechanisms themselves (and

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 23:30:56 Peter Münster wrote: Yes. I attach a recent t-french.tex file, that supports most of frenchb. \usemodule[french] Should not these rules automatically come into play through \mainlanguage[fr] rather than as a module? Also (for Hans), lang-ita.tex needs

[NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang ___ If

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 08 févr. 2010 à 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I once tried to list the different

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Sebastien Mengin wrote: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). I don't

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Am 08.02.2010 um 12:43 schrieb Sebastien Mengin: Le 08 févr. 2010 à 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? The lst-listing package from LaTeX is very good. I would

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 12:43, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). Do you

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 08 févr. 2010 à 01:14, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 08.02.10 12:43, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Monday 08 February 2010 12:25:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang Hello, I have been

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Philipp Gesang
Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately: all the details of

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Am 08.02.2010 um 14:49 schrieb Philipp Gesang: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Philipp Gesang wrote: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately:

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 14:49, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-0812:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Oliver Heins
Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de writes: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 14:41, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: And why not abstract this further? One could then flexibly logically place (and connect) containers of any sort. I use collectors and columnsetspan to put together posters (A0). This could be made easier. The flowfram [1] package for LaTeX looks like a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread John Haltiwanger
I'd just like to chime in that a new bibliography system would be first suggestion for ConTeXt. I've only used BibTeX a few times, and never BibLaTeX (because I'd already switched to ConTeXT), but it's inflexibility makes it unworkable. Ideally ConTeXt could provide its general sensible-ness (and

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread David Rogers
* Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com [2010-02-08 12:25]: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Five hundred pages of

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 18:29, David Rogers wrote: |Original Language|First Translation|Second Translation| |Bla bla bla ... |Blu blu blu ... |Ble ble ble ... | it's one of the things on the agenda for mkiv but it has to wait for a while till we have opened up the page builder a bit more in luatex

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