Re: DicOOo Wizard ?? (+en_GB dictionary) (was Re: [RELEASE]: status update and plan)

2012-04-23 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Stuart; --- Lun 23/4/12, Stuart Swales ha scritto: ... en_GB dict? it's been in the source tree for ages!  See http://svn.services.openoffice.org/opengrok/xref/OOO330_m20/dictionaries/en/ Hmm.. we removed all the dictionaries from the tree after the Apache move. Can you add the latest

R: BSD (without advertisiong) Category A

2012-03-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- Gio 22/3/12, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com ha scritto:     Hi List, in http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html BSD (without advertising clause) is part of Category A. I found no information in which category BSD *with advertising clause* maybe? Does someone know this? I

Re: Rat scan vs SGA

2012-03-20 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
hello; --- Mar 20/3/12, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net ha scritto: ... Hi, Just investigating and not acting: libtextcat/data/new_fingerprints/fpdb.conf This is based on this http://odur.let.rug.nl/~vannoord/TextCat/ which is LGPL, not maintained.  We are in luck since Apache

Re: Heads up: KDE Crystal Icon set going away.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/17/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: IMO the tango icons look uglier than the Galaxy icon set, but it's just a question of taste. And the Galaxy is the only one we can be sure that has all the required icons. (try the tango icon set and you'll see that

Re: hwpfilter/source/ksc5601.h - header from GNU c library

2011-09-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... OK.  So [4] is a permissive license for all files in the directory. This may seen odd, coming from the FSF, but they encourage this is some cases, such as when the code is very small, or where the code promotes the use of an open

Re: hwpfilter/source/ksc5601.h - header from GNU c library

2011-09-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Oliver; --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: ... Thanks for the input. Adding the URL for the origin of the copyright and license text is a good idea. I will add it and use it also to point to the origin of ksc5601.h. As Pedro researched the files are also found at

Re: Iaccessible2 in OOo

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; There was an interesting cross-posting by Malte Timmermann not long ago: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201109.mbox/ajax/%3c4e6dc5c3.9050...@gmx.com%3E I am not suggesting it should be done now but perhaps committing accfixes2 would help the IBM IA2 integration.

Re: handling of ext_sources - Juergen's suggestion [was: Re: A systematic approach to IP review?]

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW; I don't like the patches because I can't really examine well the code, besides this is something the VCS handles acceptably: commit the original sourcecode and then apply the patches in a different commit. If we start with up to date versions there would not be much trouble. just my $0.02,

Re: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Oliver-Rainer; --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, I will now join the folks who are working on the clean up regarding non-Apache license conform stuff. Looking at the wiki - http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/wiki/ApacheMigration - provides some low-hanging fruits for me

Re: EIS replacement needed? WAS Re: why can't I access this address : http://tools.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Bern; From what I read, I don't think we want to get into all that complexity right now. We have enough work already developing OpenOffice to start developing something like EIS from scratch :-(. Perhaps there something opensource already that we can use to some of the EIS functionality? I

RE: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Well... now that I think about it ... The linux header (which is actually an GNU iconv header), can probably be dealt without too. The MIT licensed header in XFree86 is not on X.Org anymore so they did something about it. Is OOo on a opengrok anywhere? It would be good to see where such headers

RE: handling of ext_sources - Juergen's suggestion [was: Re: A systematic approach to IP review?]

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
. (This will all change at some point, since Boost is being incorporated into ISO C++.  It is probably best to wait for that to ripple out into the compiler distributions.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffu...@tutopia.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 08

RE: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: Well... now that I think about it ... The linux header (which is actually an GNU iconv header), can probably be dealt without too. The MIT licensed header in XFree86 is not on X.Org anymore so they did something about it. X.Org uses git

RE: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW; --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ... If you mean ODMA.h, I don't believe there is any dependency on it and you should just get rid of it. If you need to deal with it as third-party code, I can get you a version with a BSD-variant license that

Re: A systematic approach to IP review?

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: ... On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It is unlikely that machine-generated files of any kind are copyrightable subject matter. I'd imagine that Pixar, for instance, would have a problem with that blanket statement...

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW, It may be like fitting a square peg in a round hole but there is something similar coming to Apache: http://incubator.apache.org/opennlp/index.html Pedro

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello; --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Shane Curcuru wrote: .. I.e. there are cases where Apache projects may want to include Category-B (EPL, CPL, MPL, etc.) tools within a distribution.  This is permitted in binary form, but not source form. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but dmake as we have

Re: [code][repo] Integration of CWSs, HOW-TO with hg and git svn and stgit

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; I thought it would be a good time to bring this subject up again. --- On Sat, 9/10/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... and i completely forgot to mention that i've got a linear MQ patch series applying against OOO340 that contains the following: ... ause131 ause130 writerfilter10

dmake licensing issues again (was Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language)

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Hello; --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Shane Curcuru wrote: .. I.e. there are cases where Apache projects may want to include Category-B (EPL, CPL, MPL, etc.) tools within a distribution.  This is permitted in binary form, but not

Re: [DISCUSS] Is it worth looking at Confluence Wiki Again?

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: As Rob Weir has put it ... ... So obviously there is limited volunteer bandwidth to migrate the wiki.  And I've heard from several people, on and off the list, that much of what is on the wiki is not very useful. uh,

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... Another point that Rob brought would be if we need a SGA to add the Groovy (or other) extension. I would think an SGA is a rather extreme thing to require for extensions: we wouldn't require that if we want to include

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... Bringing it into SVN is easy.  Making it into a release is another question.  To do that requires going through the IP Clearance process. Yes, I was obviously referring to the legal requirements. I'm willing to debate it for

Re: [DISCUSS] Is it worth looking at Confluence Wiki Again?

2011-09-26 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: So, what IS going on? Anybody? I think (thought?) Pedro was kind of coordinating the test of Confluence with the infra folks but ??? Unfortunately not. I asked infra@ and they didn't answer: I understand they expect us to

ooo-dmake now at Google Code

2011-09-25 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello; As you all might've been thinking, one of the things we really have to move out of the tree is dmake so I just helped dmake step out by moving it to it's own repo at Google Code. http://code.google.com/p/ooo-dmake/ Why Google Code and not apache-extras you might wonder: Dmake is

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-24 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
to start from scratch. FWIW, today I made my first and final release :-P. Pedro. --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... On 22/09/2011 Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: Hi Gianluca; Is your work related to this version? http://members.xoom.it/trasforma/ispell/ Just wondering if we have

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-24 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... HunSpell code is tri-licensed under GPL/LGPL/MPL. That particular licensing scheme is rather weird: LGPL implies that it can become GPL so you could just say dual licensed LGPL/MPL, and then, once you make something pluggable, the

Re: Re[2]: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-23 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Yakov; --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Yakov Reztsov yakovr...@mail.ru wrote: 22 сентября 2011, 20:29 от Pedro F. Giffuni: HunSpell is copyleft so we cannot include it.  Hi! Hunspell is  C++ library under GPL/LGPL/MPL tri-license.  (http://hunspell.sourceforge.net/). http://www.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSSION] start collecting the correct content for a NOTICE.txt file

2011-09-23 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello juergen; I think the file should be named NOTICE (without the .txt extension): https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/ Cheers, Pedro.

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
condescending. cheers, Pedro. --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Gianluca Turconi wrote: ... 2011/9/21 Pedro F. Giffuni If some of the dictionary files can be relicensed under an Apache License I would consider including them there too but I would prefer to keep any copyleft stuff out of the new

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Michael Stahl wrote: ... Thanks for this point. NSS is not certified and given the where the heck did you get that idea? http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/documents/140-1/140val-all.htm#1280 Ugh.. there's something broken in the iPad safari search option.

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
, Pedro. --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Gianluca Turconi in...@letturefantastiche.com wrote: From: Gianluca Turconi in...@letturefantastiche.com Subject: Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, giffu...@tutopia.com Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 10:41 AM 2011/9/22 Pedro F

ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-21 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello guys; I have created a new project at apache-extras.org to preserve MySpell: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/ooo-myspell/ There's not much there yet: basically just the original tarball I got from OpenOffice.org, but I felt it was important to preserve this code in some way.

Re: A systematic approach to IP review?

2011-09-19 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 9/19/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... 2011/9/19 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: ... do you mean to check in the files under ext_source into svn and remove it later on when we have cleaned up the code. Or do you mean to put it somehwere on apache

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... OpenSSL is a a validated module when run in FIPS mode: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/documents/140-1/1401val2009.htm# But that would still apply to AES, not Blowfish. Think of it this way:  FIPS 140 defines what

Beanshell to be relicensed under Apache License 2 !!

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Dear Apache OpenOffice.org community; I have been authorized, and it is my pleasure, to share with you the good news ... The Beanshell scripting language will be made available soon under the Apache License version 2. Later on, this month, the website will be updated to reflect that:

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi again; I think I found the missing piece in the puzzle ... OOo already uses OpenSSL, but in order to replace nss we need support for xmlsecurity. This library provides just that under an MIT license: http://www.aleksey.com/xmlsec/ Alternatively Apache has it#39;s own stuff:

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Ugh ... nevermind, we already carry xmlsec ! I guess we have everything to get rid of nss but we are not using it right? Apache Santuario is interesting though. Cheers, Pedro.

Re: saxon

2011-09-16 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
. --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: Am 29.08.2011 17:41, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: Looking a bit into Matthias' list, there's the saxon issue. I looked for a replacement and it would look like the Apache Xalan project could be an alternative:     http://xalan.apache.org

Re: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Thanks Tor, this is all good to know! --- On Wed, 9/14/11, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi wrote: ... The question is why do we need this? I would think all supported platforms have standard conformant C/C++ libs. Yeah, but the code uses non-standard library functions, apparently. Both of

Re: The OOo Community Wiki handover of activities

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello Terry; Thanks for doing this last stuff for us! --- On Wed, 9/14/11, Terry Ellison ter...@apache.org wrote: ... 3. I am still concerned about this whole issue of content attribution.  IIRC, under the old OCA contributors only vested joint rights to Sun/Oracle and free licence on any

Re: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/14/11, Michael Stahl wrote: ... In FreeBSD we were using an independent library in some ports to support getopt_long but the regular library now supports the GNU extensions. If it's needed it can be taken from there. if it's not in a C standard at least 20 years old

RE: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Ahem ... Guys; --- On Wed, 9/14/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ... If you list the functions you have in mind, and the names of the headers normally used to introduce their signatures, I will double-check the VC++ 2008 and VC++ 2010 libraries to see what the status

RE: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/14/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: .. Backing up a little.  I don't know if the original BSD license is a problem for Apache, but it becomes a problem downstream, so it is good to avoid having to carry that license and a NOTICE file about it around in

Re: Hi everybody

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Welcome zhong zhao! It's nice to see people from China joining.. I guess this project will be really alive in all timezones! :). Pedro. --- On Wed, 9/14/11, 赵忠 zhaozh...@300.cn wrote: ... Hi all: I am working for the company, RedFlag 2000(China),and start to develope office suit two months

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
really need or we wait for the next version and hope the problem goes away. Thanks for the help. -Original Message- From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffu...@tutopia.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:57 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Herter, Scott Subject: Re: Problem

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
. As for the list, I looked around, there isn't much here yet so this seemed the best fit. Are there other lists that would be better or is the project not quite that far along yet? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffu...@tutopia.com] Sent: Tuesday, September

Re: Automated Builds and Releases

2011-09-12 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 9/12/11, Matt Richards mricha...@gmail.com wrote: ... Quick question (or perhaps a discussion point). With all this talk about how things used to be built in a data center in Hamburg. I am wondering how the release/build process works with Apache projects. Does the ASF provide

Re: Is there anything we can do to make AOOo code more usable by LibreOffice?

2011-09-12 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Rob; --- On Mon, 9/12/11, Rob Weir wrote: .. I'd summarize it as saying that merging code Apache code into LibreOffice will be really difficult, especially since LibreOffice has made widespread source changes. Is there anything we can do to help LibreOffice out here? Develop faster

Re: [repo] EIS is down

2011-09-11 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/11/11, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: ... But the ready for QA and approved by QA states are lost. Or did someone take notes on those? FWIW, Michael Stahl mentioned these on 21.08.2011 __ readyforQA 3.4: mh8tz sw34bf06 mingwport35 tkr41 __

RE: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]

2011-09-08 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ... Pedro, just a quick clarification, My understanding is that Infra doesn't do content conversions of the kind we are talking about. It is all volunteer work and it is up to the PPMC to resource such things.

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-08 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Thu, 9/8/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: Which version of ICU is used in LibreOffice? If they use a newer one, this probably can tell us about possible surprises. The FreeBSD port uses 4.8.1 (with local patches). so it looks like they use system icu already. I

RE: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]

2011-09-08 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... I see you closed INFRA-3917. I like to clean my own mess, yes. Keep in mind that there appear to be others willing to struggle with Confluence migration (CWiki?). That makes me very happy! Anyone can reopen the issue: the problem I see is

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 06/09/11 05:34, Jean Weber a écrit : Hi Jean, all, I am afraid we must still do this. Perhaps it's easier to find the people that oppose .. Can we legally make a call to everyone that opposes the change to speak up before a

Re: Need a volunteer for the Bugzilla templates

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
to it. On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: (This just required a new subject header) Hi; As you know the bugzilla database is working already (very well to be honest) but the UI interface changes were not brought in due to the extremely outdated version (3.2.10

Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW, The external sources include a lot of stuff that is outdated and there may even be security risks involved. I think I posted a list of outdated stuff before and on FreeBSD I made sure we carry natively the latest versions (with some care for compatibility). Also there's the issue that was

Re: Need a volunteer for the Bugzilla templates

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
. Pedro. --- On Wed, 9/7/11, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.hu wrote: 2011.09.07. 18:10 keltezéssel, Pedro F. Giffuni írta: Great! Thanks to Matt!! One thing I didn't mention and that may be interesting for international users is that the new bugzilla can be customized for other

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Eike Rathke wrote: I don't see why the current ICU 4.0.1 needed to be updated, what issues with headers are you referring?   Eike I am not sure exactly when the ICU license changed but the first ICU versions had a restrictive license. We have some code from ICU in

Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Wed, 9/7/11, James Steinbraker wrote: I am a OOo user and have been wanting to ask but have not had the time. Does anyone know when version 3.4 may be released for broad user consumption? That is my only question. But I do understand that the code needs to be correct before

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... The IP of some of our i18n files is unclear and someone (you?) pointed out that they have been copied from ICU. We should clean that up. But that is not related to the ICU external tarball. Hmm.. I thought we could use the same headers

Re: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Alexandro Colorado wrote: .. I also have not kept up with the discussion but reading Terry's comments there seem to be a very huge task to migrate out of Mediawiki. However then I see that due to lack of Mediawiki support - we are moving to Confluence. Isnt this

Re: [code][repo] Integration of CWSs

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello Eike; From what I discussed with Rob there is no objection on his side wrt to integrating the CWS'. I was waiting for the FreeBSD port to go through before pushing this further, but in general the idea here is that lazy consensus applies: no one objected so the issue is left for those that

Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
the DNS entries? In my mind, if there is already a lot of content on the MW and the Apache Foundation allows us to continue to use it, why not? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I don't think we can give an answer set in stone.  Again, section 5 of the Apache License is clear enough. Pedro.

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I don't think we can give an answer set in stone. Again, section 5 of the Apache License is clear enough

Re: [DISCUSS] Announcing Apache ooo Bugzilla on OpenOffice.org Lists

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
I made a call for this before but maybe it was lost: Do we have a bugzilla UI expert here? I have just learned that indeed the templates for the older bugzilla are available. cheers, Pedro.

Re: [DISCUSS] Is it worth looking at Confluence Wiki Again?

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello; --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Pedro has already gone over to check with Infrastructure about doing a test. ... Regards, Dave Yes, here is the post I sent to the infrastructure guys. I guess they have the MW data and the confluence know-how but it

Fwd: Need a volunteer for the Bugzilla templates

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
(This just required a new subject header) Hi; As you know the bugzilla database is working already (very well to be honest) but the UI interface changes were not brought in due to the extremely outdated version (3.2.10) the old site was running. Apparently it is not a difficult task and it

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 9/5/11, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: ... We have established that relicensing the existing OOo user guides (which are licensed CC-BY) to the Apache license is not practical. Does this mean, as Rob has suggested, that these guides *cannot* be part of the official

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Jean; Continuing on the topic of my general ignorance ... --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: ... It's not clear to me that the user guides produced by ODFAuthors are in fact official documentation even though they are made available as ODT and PDF through the OOo

Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hmm ... It looks like I missed where the decision to use MediaWiki and deprecate confluence was taken. I guess it was arranged with infra as long as MW is up to date and the extensions are documented. I am not complaining though: it sounds like lazy consensus in action plus we can always change

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/4/11, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: ... Example 1: - A posting in LO mailinglist from Sept 2010 says: Creating a 'bug' saw no action in 3 years Here is hoping that posting the patch to this new project will :-) (There goes one developer that will probably

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/4/11, Marcus (OOo) wrote: ... As addition: It's also about code quality and stability. I have never said the contrary. Currently we have already a (relative) stable code with the released OOo 3.4 Beta. So, it would be IMHO not clever to through in all the new code from

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Ahh.. found it! The problem is solved in section 5 of the Apache License: ___ 5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under the terms and conditions of this

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: --- On Fri, 9/2/11, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote: Is it worth contacting the authors of these dictionaries to see if they would consider giving it a license we can use? Simply +1. No need to vote.. just do it (TM).

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
to OpenOffice that would now see that their are efforts better appreciated elsewhere. It's just 24 bugs with patches: we can do them all before the next release (likely to happen next year). cheers, Pedro. --- On Sat, 9/3/11, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 09/03/2011 04:39 AM, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: Hi

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: Hi Marcus; The exact flag in bugzilla is 3.4_release_blocker. Not including *ALL* these 24 bugs for the next release would be like saying to our contributors that we

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, for good reasons. It's in ISO 639-2 so it's a language, and it's distinct from Italian. Among the local languages spoken in Italy, we already fully support the four

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Sat, 9/3/11, Dale Erwin d...@casaerwin.org wrote: ... Spoken like a true northern Italian bigot... with all due respect. Please note I did not call you a northern Italian bigot... I said you speak like one.  Maybe you are just misinformed. I should've thought better before

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: ... Only because a patch it's included in LibO we should not include it automaticly here. There are many reasons to not include a pach. - Lisence Problems - The Patch is not compatible with other Operating system. - The patch is

OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-02 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; I went through the early LibreOffice archives checking which issues from our database they considered for inclusion. I have to say it was a GREAT idea to start from the tip of the Hg development tree as most fixes already appear closed (applied or integrated to a CWS). The following 24 open

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-02 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Fri, 9/2/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is it worth contacting the authors of these dictionaries to see if they would consider giving it a license we can use?  My standard boilerplate reply was: Please note that we will not receive contributions under copyleft licenses

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-02 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Dale; With due respect to Italy's cultural richness (which I so much admire being italian myself but not only because of that), Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, for good reasons. Compared to standard italian you use the same character set and gramatical rules.

RE: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration

2011-09-01 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
While here, Can Apache projects rely on Mozilla's nss (MPL)? I looked for alternatives but I only found the java based Bouncy Castle: http://www.bouncycastle.org/ cheers, Pedro. --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: From: Dennis E. Hamilton

Re: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ is now live

2011-08-31 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
I think it works fine, perhaps Ray got confused with the infra JIRA, which, of course, manages the infrastructure for all projects. Not that it matters too much, but ... Do we have a bugzilla template expert? It would be good if we could make it look like the previous one. Perhaps we can even

Re: [code] stuck at offapi on unxlngx6.pro

2011-08-30 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, Stephan Bergmann wrote: ... This is an important question. If we need another preprocessor there are options(1), but we need to now why. At least for idlc, I think the best solution would be to get rid of a C preprocessor completely.  Even if de-facto (if not

Re: Commit messages

2011-08-30 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi wrote: ... (I don't know who wrote this ... ) I'd like to see commit log/messages containing the number of fixed issue referenced and no commit messages without that number. So people would not be allowed to improve things without first

Re: OOO Test Bugzilla instance

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/29/11, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote: ... For the production instance, are we preserving the original login/passwords, or will they also be all set to password? I understand, from the comment in JIRA, that people will have to reset them from their email accounts. Pedro.

saxon

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Looking a bit into Matthias' list, there's the saxon issue. I looked for a replacement and it would look like the Apache Xalan project could be an alternative: http://xalan.apache.org/ If, for some reason, we want to keep saxon, please note: - In principle it would seem like it's required

Re: EPM

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/29/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: ... On Linux it always was needed in OOo, either from system or - in case BUILD_EPM=YES - from the ooo module epm. If you want to do it differently, send patches. :-) If I ever work on the build system, it will be very

Re: [code] stuck at offapi on unxlngx6.pro

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/29/11, Michael Stahl wrote: ... With the cleanup of this license headers we can try to remove the code in one place and reuse it. LCC is not copyleft and in our particular use it may be OK, but some provisions could be problematic:

soltools/cpp replacement options (was Re: [code] stuck at offapi on unxlngx6.pro)

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
lexer. cheers, Pedro. --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: ... This is an important question. If we need another preprocessor there are options(1), but we need to now why. cheers, Pedro. (1) http://mcpp.sourceforge.net/

[code] TODO list (was RE: svn commit: r1162287 - in /incubator/ooo: trunk-orig/ trunk/)

2011-08-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Dennis; Hmm... no need to copy everyone that should already subscribed to the list :-) Perhaps just put up a note on the blog that the code is finally in? Eike did the commit of the missing files so things are being worked on but for now we need to be careful not to break things. Mathias'

Re: [Proposal] Give the BHV publishing house in Kaarst/Germany the permission to use the OpenOffice.org trademark and logo

2011-08-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 8/28/11, Christian Grobmeier wrote: ... trademarks in your book or article. http://apache.org/foundation/marks/ Nobody has to ask to use the term Apache OpenOffice.org. But it is preferred that the booktitile is Apache OpenOffice.org 3.3 für Ein-und Umsteiger. Actually, I

Re: svn commit: r1162287 - in /incubator/ooo: trunk-orig/ trunk/

2011-08-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW, the code is there since yesterday :) ... Anyone wants the honor of commiting the missing files? Cheers, Pedro.

Re: OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Thanks Mark and everybody else involved! I do prefer this approach than the stepped transition that was planned previously. Here we know what we got and people don't have to spend time finishing the migration in the background. It does look sane: attachments are still there, which is the main

Re: [Repo][Proposal]After the code is checked in to SVN

2011-08-21 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Sun, 8/21/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Soon, I hope, the OOo code will be checked into SVN. After that happens I think we need to coordinate on the next steps.  I know that several of us have code they'd like to check-in, CWS's to integrate, LGPL code to remove, etc. 

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-16 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi again; - Original Message - On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: ... We're only checking in the tip of the trunk into SVN.  The history is going to Apache-Extras, and remaining in Hg.  I don't see how you would use the history to verify a SVN

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... We've been discussing for two months now how to get Hg over to SVN. There have been several suggestions for how the CWS's and complete revision history could be migrated over, but little progress has been made.  Either the

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi again; --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: The migration to Apache-Extras is the easy part, right?  It is just Hg to Hg. So we maintain the complete revision history that way. Iff apache-extras offers sufficient space for the repository. Actually, I am not very

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: ... I look at it this way:  What do we need to do to unblock the greatest number of people on the project?  Getting the wiki migrated enables many contributors.  Getting SVN working does the same. Bugzilla is mainly useful once we are

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