snapshot is still the latest. It won't be long before an update.
Daniel
Richard
On Jun 8, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
Hi,
I would like to check out how well JFX8 works on the Raspberry Pi and
I only found the build from December. Is there a place were one can
Hi,
we're currently in the process of migrating our Swing application from
Apple JDK 6 to OpenJDK 8 hoping to be able to ship it bundled with
OpenJDK 8 in the coming months. In addition to that we're seriously
considering a Migration of the UI to JFX and it appears very tempting
to do this
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Pedro Duque Vieira
pedro.duquevie...@gmail.com wrote:
My biggest problems were with having 2 UI threads.
I ran into some concurrency issues between the 2.
Meaning things that just needed extra care or things that were hard to
work around? Could you elaborate a
If anyone plays around with this on the Raspberry, please share your
experience here.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:09 PM, steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote:
JDK 8 for ARM hard float is now part of the regular JDK 8 Early Access
releases. You can get it athttps://jdk8.java.net/download.html; this
the same jar of your
application and let it run on the Pi without any modification.
Cheers,
Gerrit
Am 10.07.2013 um 16:14 schrieb Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de:
If anyone plays around with this on the Raspberry, please share your
experience here.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:09 PM
Great news!
Does this mean that it is now possible to add support for more
demuxers/decoders e.g. by utilizing stuff from other projects (ffmpeg
comes to mind)?
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Kirill Kirichenko
kirill.kiriche...@oracle.com wrote:
Hello OpenJFXers !
We're happy to announce
involve using and even violating some license agreements.
Anyway you're welcome to propose anything.
On 18.10.2013 21:37, Robert Krüger wrote:
Great news!
Does this mean that it is now possible to add support for more
demuxers/decoders e.g. by utilizing stuff from other projects (ffmpeg
Amen and +1.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Stephen F Northover
steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote:
As I said before, it would be up to the application. If it was critical
that your application do something like embed Excel, then it could live with
the limitations. Perhaps you work in a
Hi,
I am trying something which I thought would technically be the easiest
way of migrating parts of an existing application from Swing to JFX,
i.e. have a Swing JMenuItem trigger the showing of a JFX stage because
I thought this would technically even be cleaner than to have a swing
dialog
problems (for me).
jeff martin
On May 31, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
Hi,
I am trying something which I thought would technically be the easiest
way of migrating parts of an existing application from Swing to JFX,
i.e. have a Swing JMenuItem trigger the showing
the invocation on new JFXPanel() that I have in
the EDT before the stage is built.
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
Hi Jeff,
thanks, yeah, that's a workaround I have also found. I am just asking
myself (and the JFX developers on this list) why this kind
Hi,
I'm in the process of evaluating Java FX 8 for our currently
Swing-based product (also Java 8) on OSX.
My first attempt to style a stage's background resulted in an ugly
flashing effect which I would classify as a show-stopper for
delivering a commercial product. This looks like it is caused
drawing
_stage.setOpacity(0); _stage.show(); _stage.hide();
_stage.setOpacity(1);
I've done this before to trigger Stage to set it's width/height property
(which I needed to position the stage property).
jeff
On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:18 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote
, Insets.EMPTY)));
Does that improve the situation?
Tom
On 02.06.14 09:51, Robert Krüger wrote:
Thanks but it does not seem to improve the situation.
btw, I am using 1.8.0_05-b13 on Mac OS 10.9.3 on a retina MBP.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Jeff Martin j...@reportmill.com wrote:
I haven't seen
Hi Anthony
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Anthony Petrov
anthony.pet...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Robert,
Which of the
two mailing lists is the more appropriate one to post these things
(JFX problems which look like they might be platform-specific) to?
FYI: the JDK Mac OS X Port Project has
Hi,
RT-18543 has been closed as not an issue with the following explanation:
API exists in Application for this:
http://download.java.net/jdk8/jfxdocs/javafx/application/Application.html#setUserAgentStylesheet-java.lang.String-
But that does not the same thing as it replaces the default
#setUserAgentStylesheet(String), should do the trick. If I'm
missing something, then please feel free to create a new feature request in
JIRA.
On 6/12/14, 4:57 PM, Robert Krüger wrote:
Hi,
RT-18543 has been closed as not an issue with the following explanation:
API exists in Application for this:
http
Hi,
it has been discussed a number of time in the passed but let me
quickly summarize:
A number of people have requested a feature that provides the ability
to have native code draw into a surface provided by a JavaFX
application as fast as technically possible, i.e. with no indirection
or
at 10:41 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
Thanks for the hint. I think this is similar to what a colleague of
mine did a while ago as a proof of concept using other com.sun.api
that then went away. As long as we're bundling the JRE with our
product and we're desperate enough to get
on the issue.
Steve
On 2014-06-23, 10:03 AM, Robert Krüger wrote:
Sorry, my last reply did not go to the list. That was unintended.
Oracle-Team, please someone comment on this, at least on what should
be done regarding a Jira Issue (or several ones?) to track any
progress on this and collect
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:40 AM, John Hendrikx hj...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 13/06/2014 08:57, Robert Krüger wrote:
Hi,
it has been discussed a number of time in the passed but let me
quickly summarize:
A number of people have requested a feature that provides the ability
to have native code
Hi,
right now, I am doing this to prevent stage windows to be resizable in
a way that cuts off their contained scene's content:
final Scene scene = new Scene(pane);
stage.setScene(scene);
stage.setTitle(getClass().getSimpleName());
stage.sizeToScene();
//
for 8u40 actually...
-Martin
On 06/26/2014 01:10 PM, Robert Krüger wrote:
Hi,
right now, I am doing this to prevent stage windows to be resizable in
a way that cuts off their contained scene's content:
final Scene scene = new Scene(pane);
stage.setScene(scene
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Jeff Martin j...@reportmill.com wrote:
My thought is that JavaFX is perfect for an IDE targeted to education, like
Greenfoot and BlueJ:
SnapCode: SnapCode is the first and only pure JavaFX IDE
YouTube Overview: SnapCode JavaFX Overview
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM, David Hill david.h...@oracle.com wrote:
On 7/10/14, 10:40 AM, Jeff Martin wrote:
That's not what Bill Gates or Steve Jobs said.
To be fair - both of those guys are trying to build an ecosystem - not just
an OS, but an OS and tools and products layered on top
Classic, forgot to post to list.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
Date: Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: JavaFx roadmap?
To: Adam Granger a...@adamish.com
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Adam Granger a...@adamish.com wrote
Hi,
how would one go about implementing (i.e. use which api) a tagging
control (e.g. like http://xoxco.com/projects/code/tagsinput/) in JFX
or is this already available in an existing extension library?
Is this easily done with a bit of text parsing and CSS magic or as
fiddely as building a rich
-null for the first 23 items.
Am Dienstag, 27. Januar 2015 schrieb Tomas Mikula :
Hi Robert,
instead of listening to visibleProperty(), listen to sceneProperty()
and cancel loading when scene becomes null.
Tomas
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
javascript
Krüger wrote:
Doesn't help. The patterns of this property being changed are just as
unusable for my purposes as with the other approaches (e.g. I can clearly
see that item is set to a different value for a cell that is still
visible,
...
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about the inefficiency that more cells than needed are created
and hold non-null items.
Let's see if others have something to suggest.
Tomas
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
wrote:
Hi Tomas,
When I do that, the property is never set to null. If I use
forgot again to reply to all. If anyone ever considers changing the default
settings of the list server, +1 from me.
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From: Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
OK, I investigated some more.
What is weird is that the same table cell instance (I checked the Object
hashcode) is set to different model values while it is still visible, i.e.
I get sequences like this in the log
OK, hang on. I may have found a mistake and what I described may not
actually have been happening.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Werner Lehmann
lehm...@media-interactive.de wrote:
Robert,
I think Tomas
I have filed https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-39917 for this in Jira.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
wrote:
OK, I investigated some more.
What is weird is that the same
yes, that's what appear's to be happening.
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote:
You are probably only seeing the event when the TableView's internal
ScrollPane doesn't consume it.
Scott
On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
Hi,
I am a bit surprised by the behaviour of the onScroll event handling of
TableView. I just printed the events I received there to standard out and
although the table does not display any scrollbars because it is large
enough to fit all content into it, I receive events as if it were scrolling
of cells is about as many as you need for one visible page in the
tableview plus 2-4 more to facilitate scrolling.
On 28.01.2015 15:47, Robert Krüger wrote:
To clarify: I am using the stack approach you describe and I remove it
from the stack when updateItem for a table cell is called
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On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
Hi,
anyone doing serious work with the media player on the Mac? I am
experimenting and so far I am not getting the impression, this is really
something very solid.
The first Audio-Sample I tried playing plays
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:28 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com
wrote:
No, thanks for the hint. I just did and the behavior is a bit better in
the sense that the sample start is not cut off on subsequent play
invocations (behaves more or less line instantiating a new mediaplayer for
but not for
anything else. Don't know if that has changed or if this is even the
Audio
strategy for JFX.
Would be great if someone could share experience/opinions in this area.
Have you tried AudioClip instead of MediaPlayer?
-DrD-
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On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:48 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com
wrote:
One more question regarding this. Is it OK to have many instances of
AudioClip or MediaPlayer if only a few of them actually play stuff or do
they block audio resources even when they are stopped?
You can
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:02 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com
wrote:
One more question regarding this. Is it OK to have many instances of
AudioClip or MediaPlayer if only a few of them actually play stuff or do
they block audio resources even when they are stopped?
You can have
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote:
I am successfully using the javafx gradle plugin to produce a packaged app
on Windows and Linux. (Thanks Danno!)
I haven't tried much with Mac yet, but I believe it will make an
application bundle.
That sounds great. I
Hi,
sorry for posting this here but I have tried Stackoverflow and the Oracle
JFX user forum first with no responses.
I am looking for the most sensible way to integrate packaging of a JavaFX
application into my Gradle build.
The plugin at https://bitbucket.org/shemnon/javafx-gradle does not
I have filed this now:
https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-40377
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
This is consistent with what I am observing. Is this something that Oracle
is aware of? Looking at Jira, I don't see that anyone is working
thanks.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe the bitbucket repo is the main page. At least the bintray page
points to it.
Scott
On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
Which repository is the master? Bitbucket
Which repository is the master? Bitbucket or github? I just saw a posting
by someone mentioning that it is also on github.
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote:
I am successfully using
the environment you’re
running in. Keep in mind the new AVFoundation code is only supported on
10.8 and later due to the lack of certain required APIs in 10.7 and 10.6.
-DrD-
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...
...jim
On 3/27/15 1:52 PM, Robert Krüger wrote:
Hi,
I have a super-simple animation implemented using AnimationTimer and
Canvas
where the canvas just performs a few draw operations, i.e. fills the
screen
with a color and then draws and fills 2-3 circles and I have already
Hi,
I have a super-simple animation implemented using AnimationTimer and Canvas
where the canvas just performs a few draw operations, i.e. fills the screen
with a color and then draws and fills 2-3 circles and I have already
observed that each drawing operation I add, results in significant CPU
Great! Thanks for the update!
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Danno Ferrin danno.fer...@oracle.com
wrote:
It’s not abandoned, I’ve just had a lot of work on my day job at the
moment.
For 8u20 and later you can access most of the new features from the
builder arguments. Secondary
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Chris Newland cnewl...@chrisnewland.com
wrote:
Hi Robert,
I've not filed a Jira yet as I was hoping to find time to investigate
thoroughly but when I saw your question I thought I'd better add my
findings.
I believe the issue is in the ES2Pipeline as if I
that:
a) someone used the scrollwheel on the mouse
b) used the scroll gesture eg on the touch pad
So I think you did not really get what onScroll is doing.
Tom
On 24.01.15 14:15, Robert Krüger wrote:
Hi,
I am a bit surprised by the behaviour of the onScroll event handling of
TableView. I just
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Richard Bair richard.b...@oracle.com
wrote:
tl;dr; I lean toward keeping the Control API as view-agnostic as possible,
but where view details become essential to the operation of the control,
then define the Control to always include those specific view
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote:
I seems like a decent compromise to defer to the native platform code that
will ultimately be used to process the file anyway. It seems a little
heavy, but the alternative is perhaps bloating the JavaFX API.
Yes
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:48 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com
wrote:
I was a bit surprised that the metadata retrieval functionality
of javafx.scene.media.Media is only usable in conjunction with a player,
so
if I want to retrieve the dimensions of a video file I have to
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote:
this may mean, people who do this must work with a patched JDK in the
future.
Right. But I think that's going to be more and more common in future. If
you rely on people installing proprietary stuff like JWS or applets then
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Tom Schindl tom.schi...@bestsolution.at
wrote:
Did you read the reply from Phil in the other thread?
There will be a -XX flag in JDK 9 that jigsaw provides to aid in the
transition.
So you will not have to maintain a JDK9 build but only start with this
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Donald Smith donald.sm...@oracle.com
wrote:
Yes, but then read the rest of the thread. You really must not rely on
the theoretical possibility of an XX flag that magically kicks all your
problems down the road a year or two. The best time to get all this
the
direction that Oracle is taking Java.
Neil
From:Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
To:openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net,
Date:04/24/2015 09:36 AM
Subject:Re: Enhancements to 3D for JFX9?
Sent by:openjfx-dev openjfx-dev-boun
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Richard Bair richard.b...@oracle.com
wrote:
Hi everybody,
Moving to JBS is both good and bad. The good:
The bad:
- Contributing is hard (nay, impossible?) if you are not at least an
OpenJDK Author
That's really the only (and serious) aspect
On Thursday, April 16, 2015, Ryan Jaeb r...@jaeb.ca wrote:
My frustration isn't aimed at anyone on the list, so I hope it didn't seem
like that.
I don't usually post to the list, but I follow it enough to know that, once
we see an announcement like the one Kevin delivered, the decision has
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Mario Torre
neugens.limasoftw...@gmail.com wrote:
On the other end, the rules for Author are clear, you need to sign the
OCA (this is the main pain point, but I believe most of the
contributors to OpenJFX already have this done anyway, isn't that a
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Kevin Rushforth
kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com wrote:
A JBS account will be needed to directly report new bugs or comment on
existing bugs. Most application developers will file new JavaFX bugs at
bugs.java.com [3] just like other JDK bugs. The requirement to
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Ryan Jaeb r...@jaeb.ca wrote:
Do you guys have an estimate for the percentage of current JIRA
contributors that will no longer be able to participate, in a meaningful
way, in bug reporting due to this change? I can't speak for anyone else,
but I can tell you
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Tomas Mikula tomas.mik...@gmail.com wrote:
Should I rely now on all of those fixes
to be backported to 8?
Why do you need them to be backported to 8? Just having them fixed in
9 should be fine, no? (keeping the private workarounds for 8)
It was a response
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Stefan Fuchs snfu...@gmx.de wrote:
But in all artificial restrictions to implement your own workarounds using
private apis its another minus on our assessment of the risks involved,
when investing in the javafx technology. Others are the diminishing plugin
of that will be fixed before we need to do something
about it ourselves.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Danno Ferrin danno.fer...@oracle.com
wrote:
On Apr 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote:
our only workaround is to use private API
For the benefit of the devs
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Hi,
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Chris Newland cnewl...@chrisnewland.com
wrote:
Hi Jim,
-snip
I think my question is:
Does the OpenJFX group think JavaFX is a suitable technology for full
frame rate canvas-style graphics or is the degree of indirection between
application code and
Hi,
I hope this is not too off-topic, because although it came up in a JFX
context it's not strictly JFX-only.
Someone from our team recently had a chat with a high-ranking regional
Oracle representative who gave a talk on the state of JFX. Our guy
explained our situation (evaluating JFX to
OK, while I wrote this, all the other replies came in. So I see that your
recommendation for the cases I mentioned is then to patch OpenJDK and
submit Jira issues. Fair enough.
Regarding Jira issues, we are already doing that. Regarding code
contribution, this is a different thing, because in
, and see what
happens :-)
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de
wrote:
Hi,
I hope this is not too off-topic, because although it came up in a JFX
context it's not strictly JFX-only.
Someone from our team recently had a chat with a high-ranking regional
Hi,
I was a bit surprised that the metadata retrieval functionality
of javafx.scene.media.Media is only usable in conjunction with a player, so
if I want to retrieve the dimensions of a video file I have to instantiate
a player and wait for it to reach ready state? That's how I read the
javadoc.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:16 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com
wrote:
If not is there a specific reason not
to offer this functionality independently of a player?
There were plans, there were also issues as we don't have a Java based
mp4 parser so we're relying on the
, typing in an old RT-n number into
JBS will open the bug even after it is mapped into the JDK project.
-- Kevin
[1]
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2015-April/017083.html
[2] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/
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correctly with buffering, but
this solution has disadventeges:
- more CPU
- problems with seeking video
- complexity
Any other suggestions?
--
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Managing Partner
Lesspain GmbH Co. KG
www.lesspain-software.com
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Tobias Bley t...@ultramixer.com wrote:
Hi,
currently our experiences with JavaFX on Mac are very disappointing. While
JavaFX on Windows runs very good with low cpu usage, JavaFX on Mac via
Java 8 doesn’t perform well. I created a little clock app which uses
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Edu García wrote:
> So, years ago somebody asked on this list if it was possible to have some
> sort of OpenGL or NativeSurface node, to be able to integrate OpenGL or
> DirectX rendering on top of JavaFX (in my case, to embed something like
>
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Edu García wrote:
> I've seen that, but if I understood that correctly, I need to ship a
> modified version of JavaFX in order for it to work properly on Windows, and
> it continues to be a hack that might or might not work... That is far from
>
Thanks Chien and Kevin. I will recheck my issues with JDK 9 early access
and report back, probably here because I cannot comment in JBS.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Chien Yang <chien.y...@oracle.com> wrote:
> On 12/2/15, 4:46 AM, Robert Krüger wrote:
>
>> How much of a pr
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PerformanceTracker, is not a problem.
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>>>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG
>>>>>> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München
>>>>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V.
>>>>>> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande
>>>>>> Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697
>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to
>>>>>> developing
>>>>>> practices and products that help protect the environment
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager
>>>>> Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961
>>>>> <tel:+491737185961>
>>>>>
>>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg
>>>>>
>>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG
>>>>> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München
>>>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603
>>>>>
>>>>> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V.
>>>>> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande
>>>>> Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697
>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing
>>>>> practices and products that help protect the environment
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager
>>> Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961
>>> <tel:+491737185961>
>>>
>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg
>>>
>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG
>>> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München
>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603
>>>
>>> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V.
>>> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande
>>> Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697
>>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher
>>>
>>> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing
>>> practices and products that help protect the environment
>>>
>>
> --
> <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager
> Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961
> <tel:+491737185961>
>
> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg
>
> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG
> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München
> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603
>
> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V.
> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande
> Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697
> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher
>
> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing
> practices and products that help protect the environment
>
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Lesspain GmbH & Co. KG
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and so
> it would be a nice addition to the Gluon website.
>
> Does anyone else think they would find this useful? Could someone from
> Oracle and Gluon please respond?
>
> Felix
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Managing Partner
Lesspain GmbH & Co. KG
www.lesspain-software.com
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