hzmonte,
I can't offer any help with reporting Solaris bugs but I will sympathize with
you. I have only been working/supporting Solaris for about 3 1/2 years. I
have not personally experienced the golden age of Solaris support but from
searching the forms (over the last 3 years) it appears
Alan,
You must be thinking about times past. In the past year to 18 months, using
GOLD support contract, after support could not help me with a problem (this has
happened more the once - I don't remember which time I pushed) I suggested
filing a bug report. I was told that neither they nor
Glen Gunselman writes:
I can't offer any help with reporting Solaris bugs but I will sympathize with
you. I have only been working/supporting Solaris for about 3 1/2 years. I
have not personally experienced the golden age of Solaris support but from
searching the forms (over the last 3
Ian,
I tried usenet a few years back.
If you ask a question that they feel is too simple - they insult you.
If you ask a question that they feel requires more sys admin experience than
you have - they insult your company.
If you ask a question that's too complex - they insult you.
It's a
Sorry - I haven't worked in support since 1995, and don't know what's
involved in contracts or service any more. When I was there, anyone
answering the phones could create a bug report for any customer who
found a legitamate problem - I don't know if/when/why/how that's changed
since. Sounds
James,
I do understand that the OpenSolaris Discussions and the Sun Develorper Network
(SDN) Sun forums are software development lists and that I am at a real
disadvantage because I'm a system admin - not a software developer.
I did ask a question some time back about Blastwave but it was
Glen Gunselman wrote:
Ian,
I tried usenet a few years back.
If you ask a question that they feel is too simple - they insult you.
If you ask a question that they feel requires more sys admin experience than
you have - they insult your company.
If you ask a question that's too complex -
Dennis Clarke wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Ming Kin Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am curious - how many people here in these OpenSolaris forums have
OpenSolaris installed on their PCs at home? Or are they mostly discussing
OpenSolaris problems they have at work/school? Does
hey ... I'm not sure I get what you mean. I can't use distro to describe
the distribution? I do that all the time. And OpenSolaris 2008.05 was
released a few months ago, wasn't it? And it's aimed at new developers and
new users, and we are going after new markets with it (but then
OpenSolaris, the distro, these days is basically SXCE without the closed
source bits. I don't see the issue here. The releases every six months
under go huge testing. There's even SunStudio on the repository. The
only real difference here is the different installer and pkg.
So in this case, I
I am curious - how many people here in these
OpenSolaris forums have OpenSolaris installed on
their PCs at home (for personal non-work-related
use)? Or are they mostly discussing OpenSolaris
problems they have at work/school? (By 'people', I
mean the users, not the OpenSolaris developers
I am curious - how many people here in these
OpenSolaris forums have OpenSolaris installed on
their PCs at home (for personal non-work-related
use)?
Difficult to say, as for myself, I designed me a PC-bucket specifically for
running Solaris and OpenSolaris. I think I use Solaris 10 u5 on it
You sound like you're looking for something
resembling support for
a commercial product, without having to pay for a
support contract.
That's not likely to be sustainable ...
The How to report a bug? thread I referred to has a
link to http://bugreport.sun.com/bugreport/index.jsp
where
Richard L. Hamilton writes:
You sound like you're looking for something resembling support for
a commercial product, without having to pay for a support contract.
Indeed.
Having said that, perhaps it would be good to have a way for anyone to
_report_ bugs, but with no assurance of any
Dennis Clarke wrote:
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Ming Kin Lai
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am curious - how many people here in these
OpenSolaris forums have OpenSolaris installed on
their PCs at home? Or are they mostly discussing
OpenSolaris problems they have at work/school?
You sound like you're looking for something resembling support for
a commercial product, without having to pay for a support contract.
That's not likely to be sustainable ...
The How to report a bug? thread I referred to has a link to
http://bugreport.sun.com/bugreport/index.jsp where one can
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
You sound like you're looking for something resembling support for
a commercial product, without having to pay for a support contract.
That's not likely to be sustainable ...
The How to report a bug? thread I referred to has a link to
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
OK, let's say there is a fair number of people using OpenSolaris at home for
personal use. But as far as those bugs discussed in the forums here are
concerned, is it fair to say that most of the time these bugs arise out of
work-related problems?
That depends on
I am curious - how many people here in these
OpenSolaris forums have OpenSolaris installed on
their PCs at home (for personal non-work-related
use)? Or are they mostly discussing OpenSolaris
problems they have at work/school? (By 'people', I
mean the users, not the OpenSolaris developers
From a product and market perspective, Solaris 10 is
big and has a well
stablish customer base. From a product and market
perspective
OpenSolaris is tiny. It's just getting started. It
was just released as
a distro a few months ago.
Now now Jim, I always believed you to be fair and
If asking how to report a bug resembles looking for
free support, well, I don't know what to say. If I
have a product and care about it, I would love people
giving feedback and telling me what's wrong about it.
I too have to eat, pay rent and gas, etc. And I
basically would be providing
UNIX admin wrote:
From a product and market perspective, Solaris 10 is
big and has a well
stablish customer base. From a product and market
perspective
OpenSolaris is tiny. It's just getting started. It
was just released as
a distro a few months ago.
Now now Jim, I always
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
Sun can write all the PR things they want to claim that they are not
abandoning Solaris. But let's look at the real stuff. For example, I would
refer you to a thread How to report bugs ? in Sun's General Solaris 10
Discussion forum
And here when I used the word
abandoned, I have got so many responses within a
day.
I can assure you that the number of responses has nothing to do with the word
abandoned. This must be a slow day and some of us happened to be in a mood to
post something. :-)
This message posted from
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Ming Kin Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am curious - how many people here in these OpenSolaris forums have
OpenSolaris installed on their PCs at home? Or are they mostly discussing
OpenSolaris problems they have at work/school? Does anyone have any idea?
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
Sun can write all the PR things they want to claim that they are not
abandoning Solaris. But let's look at the real stuff.
Like updates 1-5 and later 6?
If you have a Solaris question, use Usenet or your support channel.
Ian
Hello Ming
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Ming Kin Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sun can write all the PR things they want to claim that they are not
abandoning Solaris. But let's look at the real stuff. For example, I would
refer you to a thread How to report bugs ? in Sun's General
to a bug system ?
- getting a bug fix
- contributing to the Solaris community by logging a bug
- understanding if a similar bug exists and the current fix
Brad
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris be discussed here?
From: Shawn Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Sat 8/02/08 5:31 AM
Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris be discussed here?
From: Shawn Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Sat 8/02/08 5:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
These lists are for OpenSolaris, not Solaris. I'm not
certain what gave you the idea that Sun has
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris be discussed here?
From: Shawn Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Sat 8/02/08 5:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
These lists are for OpenSolaris
It is a choice-of-words issue on whether the word abandoning should be used.
But as hartz said, Sun is clearly diverting its resource to OpenSolaris. As to
how bad (as far as Solaris 10 is concerned) the diversion is, that's a
judgement call. Whereas one can point to all these Solaris 10
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Ming Kin Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If asking for a way to report a bug resembles looking for free
support, well, I don't know what to say. ?If I have a product and
care about it, I would love people giving feedback and tell me
what's wrong about it. ?I too
I am curious - how many people here in these OpenSolaris forums have
OpenSolaris installed on their PCs at home? Or are they mostly discussing
OpenSolaris problems they have at work/school? Does anyone have any idea?
This message posted from opensolaris.org
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
I am curious - how many people here in these OpenSolaris forums have
OpenSolaris installed on their PCs at home? Or are they mostly discussing
OpenSolaris problems they have at work/school? Does anyone have any idea?
I think you'll find it a mix, really. I have a
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
It is a choice-of-words issue on whether the word abandoning should be
used. But as hartz said, Sun is clearly diverting its resource to
OpenSolaris. As to how bad (as far as Solaris 10 is concerned) the diversion
is, that's a judgment call.
I don't see a diversion
Ming Kin Lai wrote:
I am curious - how many people here in these OpenSolaris forums have
OpenSolaris installed on their PCs at home? Or are they mostly discussing
OpenSolaris problems they have at work/school? Does anyone have any idea?
I'm sure there are plenty that do. I know of
OK, let's say there is a fair number of people using OpenSolaris at home for
personal use. But as far as those bugs discussed in the forums here are
concerned, is it fair to say that most of the time these bugs arise out of
work-related problems?
This message posted from opensolaris.org
I have a feeling that Sun has abandoned maintaining Solaris, and shifted its
resources to OpenSolaris. Well, that's good news to people here, I guess.
So, can I discuss things about Solaris 10 here? How about something about
Solaris 10's C library? Can I ask a question why a certain library
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Ming Kin Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a feeling that Sun has abandoned maintaining Solaris, and shifted its
resources to OpenSolaris. Well, that's good news to people here, I guess.
So, can I discuss things about Solaris 10 here? How about something
No, it is about getnameinfo().
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Ming Kin Lai wrote:
I have a feeling that Sun has abandoned maintaining Solaris, and shifted its
resources to OpenSolaris. Well, that's good news to people here, I guess.
So, can I discuss things about Solaris 10 here? How about something about
Solaris 10's C library? Can I ask a question
Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris be discussed here?
From: Shawn Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Sat 8/02/08 5:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
These lists are for OpenSolaris, not Solaris. I'm not certain what gave you the
idea that Sun has abandoned
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