for those to fail or timeout,
and then try the hosts file.
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release.)
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enough interest in starting a KDE community, I see
no reason to discourage that.
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that the JDS sources are available.
What is missing?
The community, so that people can do more than just see the snapshot
of JDS sources from Solaris 10 3/05 release, such as interacting with
the ongoing development.
(+1 to the JDS community from me too BTW)
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Subject: Re: [solarisx86] talk
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:36:12 -0700
From: Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce Riddle wrote:
Is something quite different with /usr/bin/talk on Solaris 10?
Solaris talk is still the ancient
/apSolaris.shar?rev=1.2view=markup
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users since the
last Solaris 8 Companion CD was built several years ago. Blastwave can also
roll out security fixes much faster than Wait for the next update release
cycle, if there is one.
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to use, then it is, otherwise it's probably private.
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not anyone out
there really running something you can call OpenSolaris - they are
running either Solaris Express or Schillix, which are OpenSolaris plus
more bits from other places - in the case of Solaris Express, many more
bits.)
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how to post them to opensolaris.org. I've been waiting
for the opensolaris.org team to get higher priority things off their
todo list before pestering them to figure out how to do this.
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, while gpatch (the GNU patch program) works well with most
diff patches.
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, so you'ld have to abbreviate quite a bit.
You might want (made up names for example) VRTSvm and EMCvm
installed if you used both Veritas Volume Manager and VMWare.
(Solaris extended the limit to 32-characters a while ago, as you
can probably tell from the GNOME package names.)
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if it meets the minimal
requirements.
The lack of an agreed upon standard for how those packages are
built and installed, which is why SMC*, CSW*, and SFW* all exist,
and all install to different places, and follow different rules
for things like package dependencies.
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Ben Rockwood wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
The next release of the nVidia driver should install the PCI id's
for GeForce cards/chipsets as well as the Quadro ones it currently
does.
Has there been any reaction from nVidia thus far? I'd think of adding
the id's for GeForce as a sign
the best description I heard of
the plans during the DDC presentation was Make X stop acting like it's an
OS.)
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believe PostScript
is actually rather well documented:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0201379228/
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/ps/index_specs.html
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of
public code management system more sophistacted than 'wget file.tar.gz'.
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are ending support for ksh88 scripts and make ksh93 replace ksh
in that minor release. (Probably want to include ksh93 in a
prior update release first so customers can test their scripts.)
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of hardware, and thus hardware drivers,
than of other parts of the system, like the libX11 API, are also contributing
factors to the modularization of X.)
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Snit Mo wrote:
Have SunRay source code (SRSS and firmware) been open-sourced?
No.
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to support them on Solaris 8 and
older, but I'm not aware of any plans to release them.
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satisfied with the graphics
in both the Acer Ferrari 3400 4000, but I rarely push more than
gnome-terminal firefox at it - nothing really demanding.
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chipset
vendors don't release all the information necessary to do so.
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be to use a Opensolaris Express build, because Mesa is here native ?
Mesa is going to be slow no matter where you get it from for Solaris.
It can't use any hardware acceleration until we get DRI (or a similar
system) in place.
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and -m milestone don't play nice
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, and includes ipfilter firewall, IPsec
options, a service manager to control which services are running,
etc.
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the machines and CMS that will host the
project.
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of people couldn't handle that load.)
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to start X with some applications, or
start X via a desktop manager like dtlogin (default) or gdm
(optional in Solaris 10).
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have are in the parts of the
system not yet released - though webmin is open source and I think Sun's
changes for Solaris have pretty much been pushed upstream to the main
webmin release.
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Felix Schulte wrote:
On 9/1/05, Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've filed bug 6318879 and will try to get the fix into Nevada build 24.
The bug id does not appear on bugs.opensolaris.org - why are the bug
databases still separated?
It should in a day or two. The external
on the other hand that I plan to move to /usr/X11/bin
instead of /usr/X11/demo, because they should be more supported easier
to find - xev, for example.)
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is 4869280, but it's
not on bugs.opensolaris.org yet, since xscreensaver is tracked under
the GNOME categories that they're still working on as part of the
JDS work for OpenSolaris.
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software for Solaris SPARC
is not being released via OpenSolaris, so I don't think is going to
appear on bugs.opensolaris.org.
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in categories not made visible. (I don't actually
know what happens to bugs filed via bugs.opensolaris.org - I don't
remember seeing any come in yet for X.)
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could see the
events from the scroll wheels. (It's also why XFree86 already worked with PS/2
wheel mice, since it skips those and talks raw PS/2 protocol to the PS/2 mice,
but uses the same modules as Xsun for USB mice.)
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of which are hard issues finally
being tackled by the OpenSolaris program (for at least some parts of
Solaris).
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Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Yes, this is my fault, sorry about that - I got sidetracked on other issues
and hadn't finished updating the X bug categories to match what I had told
Derek to make available on bugs.opensolaris.org when we added the X bugs.
I've submitted the list now to the bug db
mnikhil m wrote:
how about having one or opening one under comp.os.unix.sol10 .. :)
If you just want a Solaris newsgroup, both comp.unix.solaris and
alt.solaris.x86 are very active. They're not OpenSolaris-specific
like this forum, but are good sources of Solaris info.
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we deliver new versions in
patches, so relying on the DESC field is not useful. There is no
generic way to find the upstream version of software in a Solaris
package - you have to rely on the software to have a -v or --version
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if you have it installed. (Solaris 10
updates that to Java Desktop System 3, which includes GNOME 2.6.)
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all over the available address space.
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a ./configure smake ?!? ;oP
Won't be a ./configure unless you're going to build Xorg 7.0.
(Xorg 6.x all use Imake instead of configure.)
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utmpx code into the Xorg CVS this summer
so it's in CVS head and the 6.9 release candidates.
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change in opensolaris? is it possible to increase this limit?
The default won't change, but you could change the source code
and rebuild libc yourself if you don't care about binary
compatibility with existing binaries from Solaris or other
OpenSolaris systems.
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in the future. There's even
talk of no longer hiding developer tools like make in /usr/ccs/bin!
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out now!) many of
the Linux distros plan to fix this by dumping the X11 subdirs altogether
and putting it all in /usr/bin /usr/lib directly, because the FHS
won't be happy until every bundled program and library is in those
directories.
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Rich Teer wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
and putting it all in /usr/bin /usr/lib directly, because the FHS
What's FHS?
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, part of the Linux Standards Base, and
official naysayer of software-specific subdirs under /usr.
http
a couple days longer to get
out the door.
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Robert Dickel wrote:
does 28 integrate Xorg 6.9/7.0?
6.9 RC2 - I've updated the X changelogs to include the changes
delivered in the packages we integrated today:
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/x_win/changelogs/changelogs-nv_20/
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of the QA testing of
Xscreensaver 4.23 and Xorg 6.9 RC2. Has things
stabilized?
Ref:
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6343352
~Ken
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Robert Dickel wrote:
does 28 integrate Xorg 6.9/7.0?
6.9 RC2 - I've updated the X changelogs
.
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UNIX admin wrote:
A classic one I just *adore* is allowing the use of // for comments inside of
C source code...
Which is actually standards compliant for a C99 conformant compiler.
Quite a few extensions that used to be gcc-only-ism's are now C99
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bits of the OS that depend on Sun's version.
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), but
unfortuantely have a day job competing with that work, so it's going slower
than anyone wants.
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are seeing?
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Yann POUPET wrote:
Is this driver a part of the available OpenSolaris source code ?
Source to the SPARC graphics drivers are not and will not be released
via OpenSolaris. Sorry.
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Paolo wrote:
Exist a driver for the XVR-500 under Open Solaris??
No SPARC graphics card drivers are released under OpenSolaris.
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Xsun has XKB, it's just off by default. To change Xsun on x86 keyboard
layout, run kdmconfig (as root) and choose a new layout.
Xorg does use XKB by default, and should work fine with setxkbmap (though
we haven't bundled it yet, we should one of these days).
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a sad story for another forum.)
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ken mays wrote:
As a part of ref:
http://www.sun.com/desktop/index.jsp?tab=3
http://www.sun.com/desktop/docs/Type7Reference.pdf
The docs help
UNIX admin wrote:
No SPARC graphics card drivers are released under
OpenSolaris.
Why?
Unfortunately, the lawyers have asked we not give details about why
specific components are not being released.
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with - perhaps someone in desktop-discuss
or i18n-discuss can help you there.
You may also want to try the globalization software web pages at:
http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/global/index.html
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as it will affect the sales on the whole
European continent.
Why is the requirement KDE? Is the requirement for specific functionality
that GNOME doesn't offer? Or do they specify a desktop whose name is
spelled exactly KDE?
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testing to determine
they are ready for more widespread release.
Xorg did change between b23 b28 though - it was upgraded to the
Xorg 6.9 Release Candidate 2 release from the X.Org Foundation.
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Project Looking Glass teams to provide the
libraries they will need in the future.
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this!
I think that may be a known EXA problem - it is an experimental
acceleration architecture still under development.
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unfortunately.
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interest in such a work.
And years ago Sun had no interest in open-sourcing Solaris. Times
change, priorities change, answers to questions about what Sun will
do change. If the plan is still relevant, present it now and don't
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.
(I'm sure you'll appreciate the simple workaround of Use CDE. 8-)
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6361062
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SPROdmake in Sun Studio.
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date under the umbrella of a larger storage/filesystem community.
A CIFS/SMBFS project would seem to be a feasible part of the Approachability
community, as one of the big parts of approachability is interoperability with
and easing migration from other OS'es.
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:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/int_localization/
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of the DRI/DRM
support for accelerated open source 3D drivers for ATI is in progress.
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come bundled with the
Type 7, or the separate Type 7 country kits are listed in the Sun Store
and on the price list.
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to reach one of the 3 USB ports in the keyboard (2 on back, one underneath
like the old mouse ports on pre-USB Sun Type 6 keyboards).
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BASH wrote:
hi,
how can i start X sceen in solaris 10???
In the default configuration, X is started automatically by dtlogin,
which also presents the login screen. If you've disabled the auto-start
of dtlogin you can re-enable it via /usr/dt/bin/dtconfig -e
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to Bonobo
is rather amusing given the state of Bonobo in GNOME today. Perhaps
that is due for an update if marketing ever changes this site to reflect
something beyond GNOME 2.0.)
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Cyril Plisko wrote:
How can legal issues with RealPlayer10, which presumably appears in b32
hold off release of b31 ?
RealPlayer first appeared in build 31.
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Stephen Hahn wrote:
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-14 08:55]:
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.sun.com/software/star/gnome/faq/generalfaq.xml#q23
Mmm, how is this related to star?
I believe it's reflecting the organizational genealogy, as GNOME's
outside Sun? There's nothing you can do
with that knowledge, just wait as long as you would have knowing that
somewhere in SX there's a legal problem waiting to be solved by Sun.
(I will agree that better status updates on how long you have to wait
would be a good thing.)
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to use Xorg instead in the near future, at which point we'll be able
to include the nVidia accelerated driver directly into the OS install
and this problem will go away and everyone will have fast 2-D 3-D
graphics on their nVidia cards.)
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) ...
Ultra 20?
Not a SPARC!
Of the current machines sold with the Ultra name, only the Ultra 45 is
a SPARC - the Ultra 20 40 are AMD64.
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Jeremy Teo wrote:
I believe Alan Coopersmith mentioned in passing (on #opensolaris) that there are already folks in Sun working on DRI, and they have working code.
Yes, a group from our kernel/driver team has a prototype of DRI on
Intel integrated graphics chips up and running now
for Solaris or the
OpenSolaris project.
OpenGL Renderer: SUNWm64 mmap software
renderer, VIS
You're using the software-only pipeline, so it's most directly
comparable to software-only Mesa without DRI.
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the exact same set of video drivers - the ones included in Xorg
6.9. What video devices work with their Xorg builds and not ours?
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are working to migrate the Solaris x86 installer to Xorg (including
modifying the graphics configuration setup in the install to work
with Xorg instead of Xsun) so that we can then integrate the nVidia
driver directly into the Solaris install.
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a technical problem
with database export that will be eventually fixed?
How would it determine which bugs those fields can be exported for?
We can't do it for all bugs, since some contain source which cannot
be disclosed publically.
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W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
With regard to the video driver issue, ATI has written a script to replace the
mesa driver with their proprietary fglxr driver. This is something we will
look into.
What OS are you talking about? There is no ATI fglxr driver for Solaris,
only Linux.
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from
the bug report.
No amount of scripting will make ATI's Linux kernel driver
run on a Solaris kernel though.
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is done is Xorg. A lot of effort
is being put into both fixing Xorg autoconfig and into getting
install ready to move to Xorg, so the experience and configuration
is consistent across both environments.
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Consolidation ChangeLogs for build 34 posted on the X community
on opensolaris.org, and mentioned in my blog posting on the nevada build
34 changes to X.How else should it have been communicated?
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gate.
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Artem Kachitchkine wrote:
The last step (putback) of the last development phase (integration) is
when your project goes into the gate. And if you mess it up, gatekeepers
will kick your butt :)
That's easy to avoid - come work in a consolidation without gatekeepers!
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of the
overhead too.
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general bugs.
Coverity just started providing their services to X.Org, so the X
sources may start benefiting from this soon.
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be ~/config. Thus only two locations for all
configs.
Now that's starting to sound a lot like the SMF properties database.
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