;d be creating a new
Debian License, which isn't GPL and wouldn't help with existing GPL software.
GPLv3 may fix this for software which adopts it, but GPLv2 is what it is,
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not to put confidential info in description" as "be careful
not to put any information in description, because some may be confidential".
I know some of the QA/Test groups we work with follow that policy no matter
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later this month to integrate the DRI/3D portion,
though both are based on the previous release. It's just a
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font packages (SUNWxwfnt, SUNWxwcft) and re-pkgadd them
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RYONE is complaining about the delays
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and community members. If we want to see more
CDDL-licensed software listed on freshmeat, we need to either get the
authors to submit it or to submit it ourselves.
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e does not meet the GPL requirements for being included in
a GPL licensed program.They haven't said a fully CDDL program
by itself is a problem - it's mixing CDDL & GPL into the same software
they are objecting to.
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them as "untrustworthy" is a personal attack that will just make things
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than about CDDL in general.]
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Dennis Clarke wrote:
rumour has it that this is re-spun ?
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/onnv/flag-days/pages/2006081201/
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compilers, which
doesn't work.
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d site and know
many fewer engineers ever did go there. OpenSolaris is part of our jobs
now, SX paid support is not.
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But that's not the previously referenced support site for the Solaris Express
"commercial edition", which we still advertise as $99/year.See the bottom
half of http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/solaris-express/get.jsp for that,
which is what we were discussing.
-A
e for making the OS grow more?Did the latest SO7
patch integration grow it that much?
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Rich Teer wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
But StarOffice 7 has been in since s10_67, when there were only 4 CD's, so
how was it responsible for making the OS grow more?Did the latest SO7
patch integration grow it that much?
I was kinda hoping that StarOffice 7
instantly conform to what you
think they expect the answer to be - questions are asked so we can learn
what the project team is doing, not to force change where it's not needed.
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think all posts from b.s.c were new,
so that may have pushed older posts from other sites out.
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to your $PATH to get the gcc included in Solaris 10.
3) There is no step 3. You are already done.
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applied to the system.*
You use showrev -p, and you probably have a huge list of patches applied
(especially if you added new revs of patches on top of older revs without
backing out the older revs first).
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but I thought there was one on the console output not
being captured during the install. The bigger bug I see there though is
why is sendmail running during the install at all?
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ities are much more public, if security alerts are your
top concern, bfu is the wrong way to go).
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as much software as possible is best supported by the GPL's
all-or-nothing requirements over the CDDL & LGPL requirements to keep
open what you got, but not to force you to make everything else open you
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ible build.)
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Solaris x86?
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Control_L
You mean like the output of xmodmap -pke ?Though in general
you should only change the keycodes you are using and not reset
the entries that you're not changing.
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with svcadm or vi inetd.conf.)
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ce, see the recent havoc caused by OpenSSL's
compatibility-breaking upgrade), but since the older releases of Solaris only
get security and critical bug fixes, may not have all the features you want
out of newer versions.
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Ian wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Ian wrote:
I've installed build49 on a couple of systems and I'm unable to
rlogin to them or access their displays.
Have there been any recent changes in this area?
Just the Secure-by-Default project disabling all remote services
except
e pointer on:
http://blogs.sun.com/pschow/entry/solaris_evolution_and_interface_stability )
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RC, but that's
completely hidden in the XVR-2500 code and not part of the main Xsun
code base, nor will it support any other devices nor be visible to
end-users/applications).
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.html
and
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/x_win/changelogs/changelogs-nv_50/
(and a bunch more for the other parts of Solaris not published on
opensolaris.org yet)
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-style probably won't help either since we don't have
good enough dependency information to know which packages must be upgraded in
sync, just which must have some version (any version) installed.)
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OpenSolaris outside Sun don't need to expect a new source drop to
bring them up to date with the sources used to build the forthcoming
build 51a.
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nterested about the details...
No, different project suffering from code-name reuse. The odds of
anyone doing any work remotely related to the XVR-4000 other than an
EOF of the drivers are very slim at this point.
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the x86 Power Management
project, whose intended use case is very simple: qualify for the Energy
Star checkbox required for sales to the many U.S. Government agencies,
and equivalents required by other governments, who buy Sun products.
Sun has few customers bigger than that.
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ixed in
recent Solaris Nevada driver releases. (You may still have to restart the
X server - true monitor hotplug is expected for Xorg 7.3 next year.)
As for AMD, it's too soon to say if they'll change things or not.
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stall Solaris 10 or Nevada on x86 machine.
2) When it asks you Xorg or Xsun, choose Xorg.
3) There is no 3. You are done.
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required to get X).
How do I find out that I am using Radeon and not the VESA driver?
Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see which driver it says it loaded.
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very different for Java vs. OpenSolaris.
The GPL is still not an option as the only license for OpenSolaris
as long as we have bits we can't open source and want to allow distros
such as Schillix and Nexenta to re-distribute.
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g his free e-mail account from
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be the place to find backwards compatibility libraries and symlinks.
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why they weren't open sourcing
Motif at a LinuxWorld BoF I attended many years ago.)
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as
denial of service by creating files in the directories that other users
cannot remove.
Unfortunately, we haven't come up with a good answer yet that provides
both the same level of security and the flexibility to allow non-setid
X servers like Xnest to function fully.
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Peter Tribble wrote:
Is there any particular reason why Xnest can't be setgid root?
None that we know of, we've just never done a security audit on the
code that's specific to Xnest to verify that it's safe to run setgid.
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, use "netservices limited", which should
shut down everything but ssh from listening on the network (most will still be
running - just only accessible locally). For more info, see the Secure By
Default project at:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/projects/sbd/
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on be shutdown and retired.
(Yes, I was bad at keeping up on kernel patches, but http, ssh & sendmail
were the only external services, and those were kept patched. This was
of course a non-sun.com machine.)
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load has been transferred off to newer servers over the last year, and
will soon be shutdown and retired.
n .. leave it be!
Sadly, that's not an option, since the power will be removed from its current
location by year-end.
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accidently
over and over.
Can someone please hint me to an .xorg.conf option or something
which helps here?
Try turning off NumLock - it's a bug.
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the point.)
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our colleagues in the Linux & BSD distros do.
Those drivers, depending on the hardware, come from:
- contributions by vendors
- community members with specs
- reverse engineering
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omments will require scrubbing thousands of bugs manually,
and opening new comments will require adding a way to flag which comments
can be published. Neither one is simple or quick.
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and then try the hosts file.
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Gary Gendel wrote:
You nailed it. I put the hosts in the ipnodes file and voila! everything is
back and snappy.
I guess that's another vote to fix this "bug" then:
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6219146
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open-source, so
compiling your own is probably the best until we finish splitting the
encumbered from the non-encumbered.
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e Sun is Imake based, which is about to
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an be used instead of a vote
count.
I've added a call record for Gary to the /etc/hosts vs. ipnode bug, which
is where I suspect this started.
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fix" as X.Org has declared DPS dead, so it will be disabled
in Xorg 6.9 and removed completely for Xorg 7.0.
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MF manifest
for xprint, not /etc/init.d/xprint, but that's not hard to do, and the
script others ship in /etc/init.d would probably become the method
script for SMF.)
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; It works with the Studio-8 compiler that is used internally by Sun
> for compiling Solaris 10 and Solaris 11
For X we use Studio 10 plus patches now for all our Solaris Nevada builds.
(For Solaris 10, we used Studio 8 on SPARC and Studio 10 beta on x86 for X.)
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uldn't expect to.
If there's enough interest in starting a KDE community, I see
no reason to discourage that.
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so!
I did see recently that the JDS sources are available.
What is missing?
The community, so that people can do more than just see the snapshot
of JDS sources from Solaris 10 3/05 release, such as interacting with
the ongoing development.
(+1 to the JDS community from me too BTW)
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if I'm changing a file that's already identical in all those trees, which
a surprising amount are - and an even greater amount are common between
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Subject: Re: [solarisx86] talk
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:36:12 -0700
From: Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bruce Riddle wrote:
Is something quite different with /usr/bin/talk on Solaris 10?
Solaris
eve the zlib included in
Solaris is older than that (1.1.4 according to /usr/include/zlib.h) but you
may have installed a newer rev from blastwave, sunfreeware, etc. that you
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Dan Mick wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Dan Mick wrote:
1) I've never heard of /dev/fbs/aperture
It's basically an open source version of xsvc included in Xorg
for Solaris systems without xsvc (really ancient Solaris x86 or
any version of Solaris SPARC).
oh, and so Joerg incl
proprietary interfaces to call into their kernel
modules to get at the 3D acceleration hardware.
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-to-right, with rightmost winning
for conflicting options, and -fast includes -xarch.
The Sun Studio article on AMD64 compiler options warns about this:
http://developer.sun.com/prodtech/cc/articles/amd64_migration.html
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roland wrote:
I install salaris 10 serveral times, and it is normal during installation.
But after reboot, the system told cannot login 'X-server'
Look in /var/dt/Xerrors and either /var/log/Xsun.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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last Solaris 8 Companion CD was built several years ago. Blastwave can also
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ncisco Bay will soon be overwritten with too many names to
read for the OpenSolaris version. (Kind of like Europe is in your
GNOME map right now.)
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, like the
long-options-with-single-dash used by X11 applications (e.g. -display).
Adding this style to other commands wouldn't make sense, but changing
twenty years of habits and scripts for these commands would make even
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inverse of that - if it's
documented as safe to use, then it is, otherwise it's probably private.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
P.S. I assume that Nevada is the name for the new version of the Solaris O/N
consolidation and not a name for the whole Sun-Solaris.
Nope, it's the code name for the next release of the entire Solaris WOS,
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there really running something you can call "OpenSolaris" - they are
running either Solaris Express or Schillix, which are OpenSolaris plus
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is figuring out how to post them to opensolaris.org. I've been waiting
for the opensolaris.org team to get higher priority things off their
todo list before pestering them to figure out how to do this.
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, while gpatch (the GNU patch program) works well with most
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cters, so you'ld have to abbreviate quite a bit.
You might want (made up names for example) VRTSvm and EMCvm
installed if you used both Veritas Volume Manager and VMWare.
(Solaris extended the limit to 32-characters a while ago, as you
can probably tell from the GNOME package names.)
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The lack of an agreed upon standard for how those packages are
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goal, but can't always be met for various reasons and occassionally is
simply broken by mistake.
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cards/chipsets as well as the Quadro ones it currently
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Ben Rockwood wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
The next release of the nVidia driver should install the PCI id's
for GeForce cards/chipsets as well as the Quadro ones it currently
does.
Has there been any reaction from nVidia thus far? I'd think of adding
the id's for GeForce
I think the best description I heard of
the plans during the DDC presentation was "Make X stop acting like it's an
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opment model, not yet even up to beta quality.
ATI has not yet released 3D specifications, so this isn't the place to
go yet if you want 3D performance.
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?
The terminfo data for terminal type "xterm" changed.
6569261 xterm, xtermc, xterm-color: smcup/rmcup definitions are
incorrect/missing
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gdm' - though be ready for your desktop session to be killed as soon as
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s is impossible to do with xdm, if someone wanted to do the work to
add all that, but why duplicate all that effort when gdm works?Is there some
reason a user would prefer xdm over gdm?(The main reason I know of xdm still
exists and is used is at sites who want the same login gui on all
tlogin is encumbered, so could only be in Solaris itself, and every
other OpenSolaris distro would have to find something else anyway.
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but gdm is depending on Virtual Terminals to provide that function,
so is waiting for that project to complete.
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about them all, though.
> I guess I'm surprised if KDM wouldn't use some of these (such as
> fontconfig and freetype). Perhaps it doesn't have very robust
> font support?
fontconfig brings in freetype & expat. I'm surprised I didn't see
libXft2 in the list, s
nk a11y support was the main reason
>> we picked GDM over KDM initially.
>
>>From my understanding, this would either need a binary standard for C++
> or a way to define a different LD_RUN_PATH for gcc compiled binaries.
Why? KDM is an application, not a library.
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