Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Edgar Magana
Basically, I am admitting that I did not catch in my review the part of the endpoint term that Jay was pointing out. Edgar On 8/6/14, 11:32 AM, "Sumit Naiksatam" wrote: >Not sure what you are talking about? You claim now that you had >suggestion which was not considered, yet you +2'ed a patch,

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
+1 Eugene, Still, there's a point in Stefano's thread: There's a time for discussing merging strategies, models, and naming conventions... And this time is called BP approval :) Just saying. Ivar. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:07

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 04:13 PM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: I believe the referential security group rules solve this problem (unless I'm not understanding): I think the disconnect is that you are comparing the way to current mapping driver implements t

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron Rosen
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Ryan Moats wrote: > Aaron Rosen wrote on 08/06/2014 02:12:05 PM: > > > From: Aaron Rosen > > > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > > > Date: 08/06/2014 02:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based P

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 08/06/2014 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: > > That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a > smartest > > reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t. > > And yet, the specification clearly talks about 'endpoints

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: >>I believe the referential security group rules solve this problem (unless >> I'm not understanding): > > I think the disconnect is that you are comparing the way to current mapping > driver implements things for the reference implementation wi

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 03:46 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: >I believe the referential security group rules solve this problem (unless I'm not understanding): I think the disconnect is that you are comparing the way to current mapping driver implements things for the reference implementation with the existing

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Benton
The translation to creating a network is what is being done implicitly. Another plugin could choose to implement this entirely using something like security groups on a single giant network. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Aaron Rosen wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Ivar Lazzaro

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Ryan Moats
Aaron Rosen wrote on 08/06/2014 02:12:05 PM: > From: Aaron Rosen > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Date: 08/06/2014 02:12 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy > and the way forward > > Hi Ryan, > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Benton
>I believe the referential security group rules solve this problem (unless I'm not understanding): I think the disconnect is that you are comparing the way to current mapping driver implements things for the reference implementation with the existing APIs. Under this light, it's not going to look

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which plugins?

2014-08-06 Thread Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron)
Yamamoto has reviewed the changes for this, and has raised the following issue (among others). * iirc mellanox uses mac address as port identifier. what happens on address change? Can someone who knows mellanox please comment, either here or in the review? Thanks, Chuck On Aug 5, 2014,

[openstack-dev] [UX] [Horizon] [Heat] Merlin project (formerly known as cross-project UI library for Heat/Mistral/Murano/Solum) plans for PoC and more

2014-08-06 Thread Timur Sufiev
Hi, folks! Two months ago there was an announcement in ML about gathering the requirements for cross-project UI library for Heat/Mistral/Murano/Solum [1]. The positive feedback in related googledoc [2] and some IRC chats and emails that followed convinced me that I'm not the only person interested

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron Rosen
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Ivar Lazzaro wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > Please note that the user using the current reference implementation > doesn't need to create Networks, Ports, or anything else. As a matter of > fact, the mapping is done implicitly. > The user still needs to create an endpoi

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Hi Aaron, Please note that the user using the current reference implementation doesn't need to create Networks, Ports, or anything else. As a matter of fact, the mapping is done implicitly. Also, I agree with Kevin when he says that this is a whole different discussion. Thanks, Ivar. On Wed, A

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Salvatore Orlando
As long as the discussion stays focused on how group policies are beneficial for the user community and how the Neutron developer community should move forward, I reckon it's fine to keep the discussion in this thread. Salvatore Il 06/ago/2014 21:18 "Aaron Rosen" ha scritto: > Hi Kevin, > > I th

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi Kevin, I think we should keep these threads together as we need to understand the benefit collectively before we move forward with what to do. Aaron On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > These are good questions, but can we move this to a different thread > l

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Henry Fourie
+1 From: Edgar Magana [mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:40 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward This is the consequence of a proposal that is not follow

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 08/06/2014 12:41 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Ben Nemec > wrote: > > > >> On 08/05/2014 03:14 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Ben Nemec > >> wrote: > >>> > On 08/05/2014 10

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi Ryan, On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Moats wrote: > Jay Pipes wrote on 08/06/2014 01:04:41 PM: > > [snip] > > > > AFAICT, there is nothing that can be done with the GBP API that cannot > > be done with the low-level regular Neutron API. > > I'll take you up on that, Jay :) > > How ex

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 08/06/2014 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: >> That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a smartest >> reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t. > > And yet, the specification clearly talks about 'endpoints' and

[openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/06/2014 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: > That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a smartest > reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t. And yet, the specification clearly talks about 'endpoints' and nobody caught it where it supposed to be caught so I fear that s

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Benton
Hi Aaron, These are good questions, but can we move this to a different thread labeled "what is the point of group policy?" I don't want to derail this one again and we should stick to Salvatore's options about the way to move forward with these code changes. On Aug 6, 2014 12:42 PM, "Aaron Rosen

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Nemec
On 08/06/2014 01:42 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 08/06/2014 03:35 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: >>> I'd like to stress this to everyone: I DO NOT propose squashing together >>> commits that should belong to separate change requests. I DO NOT propo

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Ryan Moats
Jay Pipes wrote on 08/06/2014 01:04:41 PM: [snip] > AFAICT, there is nothing that can be done with the GBP API that cannot > be done with the low-level regular Neutron API. I'll take you up on that, Jay :) How exactly do I specify behavior between two collections of ports residing in the sa

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 08/06/2014 03:35 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > I'd like to stress this to everyone: I DO NOT propose squashing together > > commits that should belong to separate change requests. I DO NOT propose > to > > upload all your changes at once. I DO

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi, I've made my way through the group based policy code and blueprints and I'd like ask several questions about it. My first question really is what is the advantage that the new proposed group based policy model buys us? Bobs says, "The group-based policy BP approved for Juno addresses the >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Yapeng Wu
Hi, Salvatore, Thanks listing out the options. Can you elaborate more on your 2nd option? Do you mean merge the patches and mark the API as ‘experimental’? Yapeng From: Salvatore Orlando [mailto:sorla...@nicira.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:44 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing Li

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Not sure what you are talking about? You claim now that you had suggestion which was not considered, yet you +2'ed a patch, by stating that "All looks good to me!". On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: > That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a smartest >

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-06 Thread Duncan Thomas
I'm not following here - you complain about rally being monolithic, then suggest that parts of it should be baked into tempest - a tool that is already huge and difficult to get into. I'd rather see tools that do one thing well and some overlap than one tool to rule them all. On 6 August 2014 14:4

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Edgar Magana
That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a smartest reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t. Edgar On 8/6/14, 10:55 AM, "Sumit Naiksatam" wrote: >Edgar, you seemed to have +2'ed this patch on July 2nd [1]: > >" >Edgar Magana >Jul 2 8:42 AM > >Patch Set 13: Code-Rev

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 04:30 AM, Stefano Santini wrote: Hi, In my company (Vodafone), we (DC network architecture) are following very closely the work happening on Group Based Policy since we see a great value on the new paradigm to drive network configurations with an advanced logic. We're working on a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Salvatore, Can you expand on point 2? Not sure what means in this case to 'treat it accordingly'. Thanks, Ivar. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > As Ronak said, this thread is starting to move in a lot of different > directions, ranging from correctness of the bluepri

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Edgar, you seemed to have +2'ed this patch on July 2nd [1]: " Edgar Magana Jul 2 8:42 AM Patch Set 13: Code-Review+2 All looks good to me! I am not approving yet because Nachi was also reviewing this code and I would like to see his opinion as well. " That would suggest that you were happy with

[openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Stackers! So, Liyi Meng has an interesting patch up for Nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104876 that changes the way that the interval and number of retries is calculated for a piece of code that waits around for a block device mapping to become active. Namely, the patch discards t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 01:22 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: What I was referring to was also not Keystone's definition of an endpoint. It's almost as if the term has many uses and was not invented for Keystone. :-) http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChStatEndpoints.html Did a similar discussion oc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Salvatore Orlando
As Ronak said, this thread is starting to move in a lot of different directions, ranging from correctness of the blueprint approval process to nova/neutron integration, which are rather off topic. In particular it seems things are being skewed towards a discussion around nova parity, whereas actua

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 01:40 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 13:30, Robert Collins wrote: On 6 August 2014 17:27, Tom Fifield wrote: On 06/08/14 13:24, Robert Collins wrote: What happened to your DB migrations then? :) Sorry if I misunderstood, I thought we were talking about running VM downti

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Which kind of uncertainty are you referring to? Given that the blueprint was approved long ago, and the code has been ready and under review following those specs... I think GBP is probably the patch with the least effort to be merged right now. Ivar. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Joe Gordon

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Edgar Magana
This is the consequence of a proposal that is not following the standardized terminology (IETF - RFC) for any Policy-based System: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3198 Well, I did bring this point during the Hong Kong Summit but as you can see my comments were totally ignored: https://docs.google

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Sridar Kandaswamy (skandasw)
Hi All: +1 Ivar. Yes the timing of the alternate proposal does make the notion of spec reviews seem like a process tick mark with no seeming benefit. It is indeed unfair to the folks who have put in a lot of effort with an approved spec to have a workflow change pulled on them so late in the cy

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 6, 2014 10:21 AM, "Ronak Shah" wrote: > > We have diverged our attention towards nova-network-> neutron parity on this thread unnecessarily. > > Can we discuss and collectively decide on what is the way forward for GBP in Juno release? > > Efforts have been made by the subteam starting from

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 04/08/14 19:18, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello, git-review users! I'd like to gather feedback on a feature I want to implement that might turn out useful for you. I like using Git for development. It allows me to keep track of current development process, it remembers everything I ever did with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Benton
What I was referring to was also not Keystone's definition of an endpoint. It's almost as if the term has many uses and was not invented for Keystone. :-) http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChStatEndpoints.html Did a similar discussion occur when Heat wanted to use the word 'template

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

2014-08-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: > On 06/08/14 03:54, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> On 08/05/2014 03:23 PM, Collins, Sean wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 12:50:45PM EDT, Monty Taylor wrote: >>> However, I think the cost to providing that path far outweighs the benefit in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Ronak Shah
We have diverged our attention towards nova-network-> neutron parity on this thread unnecessarily. Can we discuss and collectively decide on what is the way forward for GBP in Juno release? Efforts have been made by the subteam starting from throwing PoC at last summit to spec approval to code re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Blueprints process

2014-08-06 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 06 Aug 2014, at 10:41, Sergii Golovatiuk wrote: > Hi, > > I really like what Mike proposed. It will help us to keep milestone clean and > accurate. +1 for Mike’s proposal. New members will also benefit from that move: clean picture will make easier to pick up features to work on. Regards

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron Rosen
As a cloud admin one needs to make sure the endpoints in keystone publicurl, internalurl and adminurl all map to the right places in the infrastructure. As a cloud user (for example when using the HP/RAX public cloud that has multiple regions/endpoints) a user needs to be aware of which region maps

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Benton
In the weekly neutron meetings it hasn't been mentioned that any of these items are at risk due to developer shortage. That's why I wanted Mark McClain to reply here because he has been leading the parity effort. On Aug 6, 2014 8:56 AM, "Joe Gordon" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:12 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] so what do i do about libvirt-python if i'm on precise?

2014-08-06 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 8/5/2014 12:39 PM, Solly Ross wrote: Just to add my two cents, while I get that people need to run on older versions of software, at a certain point you have to bump the minimum version. Even libvirt 0.9.11 is from April 3rd 2012. That's two and a third years old at this point. I think a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Benton
It sounds to me like you are describing how a developer uses Keystone, not a user. My reference to 'application deployer' was to someone trying to run something like a mail server on an openstack cloud. On Aug 6, 2014 7:07 AM, "Russell Bryant" wrote: > On 08/05/2014 06:13 PM, Kevin Benton wrote:

[openstack-dev] [neutron][ml2] Mech driver as out-of-tree add-on

2014-08-06 Thread Luke Gorrie
Howdy! Rumor has it that it's easy to distribute ML2 mech drivers as out-of-tree add-on modules. Is this true? Has it been done? Where would one find an example? Cheers! -Luke ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://list

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-06 Thread Matt Joyce
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 11:51:27AM -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > > > You've touched on multiple trains-of-thought that could indeed > justify separate threads of their own. > > I agree with your read on the diverging growth rates in the > strategic versus the tactical elements of the community. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Proposal for slight change in our spec process

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Faulkner
Similarly, I appreciated this idea when we discussed it at the mid-cycle and doing so here. +1 -Jay Faulkner From: Lucas Alvares Gomes Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:34 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
Hi Joe, Are you suggesting to stop/remove everything that is not related to Nova Parity for the Juno release? Because then I fail to see why this and Mark's proposal are targeted only to GBP. In my humble opinion, these kind of concerns should be addressed at BP approval time. Otherwise the whol

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-06 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> Hi everyone, > > With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is > facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the > ultimate success or failure of OpenStack. > > With this cycle we hit new limits in our processes, tools and cultural > setup. This resu

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Aug 7 1800 UTC

2014-08-06 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Next_meetings http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Sahara+Meeting&iso=20140807T18 -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Too long stack delete method.

2014-08-06 Thread Anant Patil
On 06-Aug-14 20:20, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 06/08/14 10:37, Anant Patil wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I see that the stack delete method is too long to comprehend easily >> without going to-and-fro few times. I think we should refactor it and >> move out the "UpdateReplace" related logic for backup stack to

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Nemec
On 08/06/2014 12:41 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 08/05/2014 03:14 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Ben Nemec >> wrote: >>> On 08/05/2014 10:51 AM, ZZelle wrote: > Hi, > > > I like the idea .

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 02:12 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: Given that, pointing to the Nova parity work seems a bit like a red herring. This new API is being developed orthogonally to the existing API endpoints You see how you used the term endpoints there? :P -jay __

[openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-06 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Folks, It's come to our attention that some key individuals are not fully up-to-date on gnocchi activities, so it being a good and healthy thing to ensure we're as communicative as possible about our roadmap, I've provided a high-level overview here of our thinking. This is intended as a precurso

[openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Release report

2014-08-06 Thread mar...@redhat.com
This was my first run so if I missed something please ping me, esp if you are in need of a stable branch (for those projects we do that for), 1. os-apply-config: no changes, 0.1.19 2. os-refresh-config: no changes, 0.1.7 3. os-collect-config: no changes, 0.1.25 4. os-cloud-c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Too long stack delete method.

2014-08-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 06/08/14 10:37, Anant Patil wrote: Hi, I see that the stack delete method is too long to comprehend easily without going to-and-fro few times. I think we should refactor it and move out the "UpdateReplace" related logic for backup stack to another method. We can also move the user credentials

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > Are there any parity features you are aware of that aren't receiving > adequate developer/reviewer time? I'm not aware of any parity features that > are in a place where throwing more engineers at them is going to speed > anything up. Maybe Ma

[openstack-dev] [heat] Too long stack delete method

2014-08-06 Thread Anant Patil
Hi, I see that the stack delete method is too long to comprehend easily without going to-and-fro few times. I think we should refactor it and move out the "UpdateReplace" related logic for backup stack to another method. We can also move the user credentials deletion related logic to another metho

[openstack-dev] Too long stack delete method.

2014-08-06 Thread Anant Patil
Hi, I see that the stack delete method is too long to comprehend easily without going to-and-fro few times. I think we should refactor it and move out the "UpdateReplace" related logic for backup stack to another method. We can also move the user credentials deletion related logic to another metho

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack update and raw_template backup

2014-08-06 Thread Anant Patil
On 30-Jul-14 23:24, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 30/07/14 02:21, Anant Patil wrote: >> On 28-Jul-14 22:37, Clint Byrum wrote: >>> Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-07-28 07:25:24 -0700: On 26/07/14 00:04, Anant Patil wrote: > When the stack is updated, a diff of updated template and c

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Nemec
On 08/06/2014 03:35 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > I'd like to stress this to everyone: I DO NOT propose squashing together > commits that should belong to separate change requests. I DO NOT propose to > upload all your changes at once. I DO propose letting developers to keep > local history of all ite

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-06 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/06/2014 09:44 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Something that we need to figure out is given where we are in the > release cycle do we want to ask the QA team to go off and do Rally deep > dive now to try to pull it apart into the parts that make sense for > other programs to take in. There are always

[openstack-dev] [Murano] New keyword to recheck commits

2014-08-06 Thread Dmitry Teselkin
Hi all, Please note that we've changed keywords used to trigger recheck action in murano-ci to 'retrigger murano-ci'. We decided to do this in order to prevent OpenStack CI from triggering a build each time a comment 'recheck murano-ci' is added. The main cause of this is the regexp in OpenStack'

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron)
On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:11 AM, Aaron Rosen mailto:aaronoro...@gmail.com>> wrote: I agree, I had actually proposed this here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-api-quantum-create-port :), though there are some issues we need to solve in neutron first -- allowing the mac_address o

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-06 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/06/2014 09:11 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/06/2014 06:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> At the TC meeting yesterday we discussed Rally program request and >> incubation request. We quickly dismissed the incubation request, as >> Rally appears to be able to live happily o

Re: [openstack-dev] Tox run failure during installation of dependencies in requirements

2014-08-06 Thread Narasimhan, Vivekanandan
Hi Igor /Matthieu, I am getting random connection timeouts to pypi.python.org with my machine behind the proxy when trying to run Tox –e pep8 Dependency installation fails with the stack trace posted below. However, similar issue does not occur when I use run_tests.sh to run the same set

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-06 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/06/2014 06:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > At the TC meeting yesterday we discussed Rally program request and > incubation request. We quickly dismissed the incubation request, as > Rally appears to be able to live happily on top of OpenStack and would > benefit from having a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] OpenStack Heat installation guide and Heat utilisation manual

2014-08-06 Thread marwen mechtri
Hi Andreas, It's pleasure to work together on the OpenStack heat templates documentation. In our manual, we provide two templates with the associated descriptions (and pictures). The first one is useful when we deploy 2 interconnected VMs and the second one can be used to update the template (keep

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/05/2014 06:13 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > That makes sense. It's not quite a fair analogy though to compare to > reintroducing projects or tenants because Keystone endpoints aren't > 'user-facing' so to speak. i.e. a regular user (application deployer, > instance operator, etc) should never hav

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/05/2014 05:24 PM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> On 08/05/2014 04:26 PM, Stephen Wong wrote: >>> >>> Agreed with Kevin and Sumit here. As a subgroup we talked about Nova >>> integration, and the preliminary idea, as Bob alluded to, is to add >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][Neutron] multiple hypervisors on one compute host - neutron agent and compute hostnames

2014-08-06 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > Hi! > > James has run into an issue implementing the multi-hypervisor spec > (http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-specs/tree/specs/juno/tripleo-juno-deploy-cloud-hypervisor-type.rst) > which we're hoping to use to reduce infrastru

Re: [openstack-dev] Step by step OpenStack Icehouse Installation Guide

2014-08-06 Thread chayma ghribi
Hi stefano ! Yes, it's a pleasure to contribute and to join the documentation team. Ok! I will send announcements to the other mailing list ;) Regards, Chaima 2014-08-06 1:15 GMT+02:00 Stefano Maffulli : > On 08/03/2014 03:49 AM, chayma ghribi wrote: > > I want to share with you our OpenStac

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Aaron Rosen wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >> >> >> >> From: Aaron Rosen >> Reply-To: OpenStack List >> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 10:09 AM >> >> To: OpenStack List >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based

[openstack-dev] [horizon] Package python-django-pyscss dependencies on CentOS

2014-08-06 Thread Timur Sufiev
Hi! Here is the link: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=5239113 The question is whether the python-pillow package really needed for proper compiling css from scss in Horizon or is it an optional requirement which can be safely dropped? The problem with python-pillow is that it pull

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] "status" in entities

2014-08-06 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
I agree. the current status can reflect the deployment status and we can add a new attribute to reflect operational status. I also agree that adminstate_up should definitely affect operational status. But driver could choose to unprovision when admin state is set to false. In which case status

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] OpenStack Heat installation guide and Heat utilisation manual

2014-08-06 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 08/06/2014 05:23 AM, Don Waterloo wrote: > On 5 August 2014 18:10, marwen mechtri wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I want to present you our OpenStack Heat installation guide for Icehouse >> release. >> >> https://github.com/MarouenMechtri/OpenStack-Heat-Installation/blob/master/OpenStack-Heat-Installat

Re: [openstack-dev] Tox run failure during installation of dependencies in requirements

2014-08-06 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Narasimhan, Vivekanandan < vivekanandan.narasim...@hp.com> wrote: > Timeout: > ( object at 0x37e4790>, 'Connection to pypi.python.org timed out. (connect > timeout=15)') > I think this error message is pretty self explanatory Chmouel

[openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-06 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, At the TC meeting yesterday we discussed Rally program request and incubation request. We quickly dismissed the incubation request, as Rally appears to be able to live happily on top of OpenStack and would benefit from having a release cycle decoupled from the OpenStack "integrated re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] OpenStack Heat installation guide and Heat utilisation manual

2014-08-06 Thread marwen mechtri
Thank you for your suggestion. I will investigate it and see how to integrate the trust model in the heat template (if possible). Regards, Marouen Mechtri 2014-08-06 5:23 GMT+02:00 Don Waterloo : > On 5 August 2014 18:10, marwen mechtri wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I want to present you our Ope

Re: [openstack-dev] Tox run failure during installation of dependencies in requirements

2014-08-06 Thread Matthieu Huin
Hi, Can you reach pypi.python.org ? Matthieu Huin m...@enovance.com - Original Message - > From: "Vivekanandan Narasimhan" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:19:57 PM > Subject: [openstack-dev] Tox run failure

Re: [openstack-dev] Tox run failure during installation of dependencies in requirements

2014-08-06 Thread Igor Degtiarov
Hi, Actually the same question, what is wrong with Tox now? -- Igor On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Narasimhan, Vivekanandan < vivekanandan.narasim...@hp.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Recently , the Tox runs started to fail in my workspace. > > It fails consistently during installing dependencies

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Aaron Rosen wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > >> >> >> From: Aaron Rosen >> Reply-To: OpenStack List >> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 10:09 AM >> >> To: OpenStack List >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Bas

[openstack-dev] Tox run failure during installation of dependencies in requirements

2014-08-06 Thread Narasimhan, Vivekanandan
Hi, Recently , the Tox runs started to fail in my workspace. It fails consistently during installing dependencies with the following. Downloading/unpacking PrettyTable>=0.7,<0.8 (from python-keystoneclient>=0.10.0->-r /home/narasimv/dev/bug1350485/neutron/requirements.txt (line 22)) Clean

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > Le 06/08/2014 10:35, Yuriy Taraday a écrit : > > I'd like to stress this to everyone: I DO NOT propose squashing together >> commits that should belong to separate change requests. I DO NOT propose to >> upload all your changes at once. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Proposal for slight change in our spec process

2014-08-06 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Already agreed with the idea at the midcycle, but just making it public: +1 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Roman Prykhodchenko wrote: > Hi! > > I think this is a nice idea indeed. Do you plan to use this process starting > from Juno or as soon as possible? It will start in Kilo ___

Re: [openstack-dev] backport fixes to old branches

2014-08-06 Thread Osanai, Hisashi
On Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:57 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: > Thanks. To facilitate quicker backport, you may also propose the patch > for review yourself. It may take time before stable maintainers or > other interested parties get to the bug and do cherry-pick. Thank you for your advice. I wo

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 06/08/2014 10:35, Yuriy Taraday a écrit : I'd like to stress this to everyone: I DO NOT propose squashing together commits that should belong to separate change requests. I DO NOT propose to upload all your changes at once. I DO propose letting developers to keep local history of all iterat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Gary Kotton
From: Aaron Rosen mailto:aaronoro...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: OpenStack List mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 11:11 AM To: OpenStack List mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way fo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Blueprints process

2014-08-06 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi, I really like what Mike proposed. It will help us to keep milestone clean and accurate. -- Best regards, Sergii Golovatiuk, Skype #golserge IRC #holser On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Mike Scherbakov wrote: > As we are before next milestone, let's get back to this excellent (in my > opin

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-06 Thread Yuriy Taraday
I'd like to stress this to everyone: I DO NOT propose squashing together commits that should belong to separate change requests. I DO NOT propose to upload all your changes at once. I DO propose letting developers to keep local history of all iterations they have with a change request. The history

[openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Stefano Santini
Hi, In my company (Vodafone), we (DC network architecture) are following very closely the work happening on Group Based Policy since we see a great value on the new paradigm to drive network configurations with an advanced logic. We're working on a new production project for an internal private c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Blueprints process

2014-08-06 Thread Mike Scherbakov
As we are before next milestone, let's get back to this excellent (in my opinion) proposal from Dmitry. Current situation is the following: there are 121 blueprints targeted for 6.0. Most of them miss a header with QA/reviewers/developers information, basically those are incomplete blueprints initi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron Rosen
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > > > From: Aaron Rosen > Reply-To: OpenStack List > Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 10:09 AM > > To: OpenStack List > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way > forward > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:18 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][oslo] Problem installing oslo.config-1.4.0.0a3 from .whl files

2014-08-06 Thread Matthieu Huin
Thank you so much ! I had the same problem yesterday and was out of ideas to solve this. Matthieu Huin m...@enovance.com - Original Message - > From: "Alexei Kornienko" > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:08:45 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [N

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