Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-10 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Hi Chmouel, I think the correct way to sync is to run the update.py script and submit a review (I don’t think it’s changed recently).   Cheers, Morgan On December 9, 2013 at 23:58:42, Chmouel Boudjnah (chmo...@enovance.com) wrote: On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Dolph Mathews

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread David Chadwick
How about the following which clearly separates naming and scoping constraints { role: { id: 76e72a, domain_id = --id--,(optional, if present, role is named by specific domain) project_id = --id--,(optional, if present, role is named by project) service_id =

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-10 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On 10 Dec 2013, at 09:20, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: I think the correct way to sync is to run the update.py script and submit a review (I don’t think it’s changed recently). Seems pretty straightforward then, thanks. let see how the review goes here then :

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-10 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 2013/09/12 17:15, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: - As an infrastructure administrator, Anna wants to be able to unallocate a node from a deployment. Why? Whats her motivation. One plausible one for me is 'a machine needs to be serviced so Anna wants to remove it from the

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] suggestion to a new driver

2013-12-10 Thread Ronen Angluster
Hello all! we're developing a new storage appliance and per one of our customers would like to build a cinder driver. i kept digging into the documentation for the past 2 weeks and could not find anything that described the code level of API. i.e. nothing describes what each function should

[openstack-dev] [Scheduler] about scheduler-as-a-service

2013-12-10 Thread Lingxian Kong
we know that there is a scheduler-as-a-service[1] working in progress now, aiming at smart resource placement and also providing the instance group API work for nova. But what I wonder is does it include the feature of DRS(Distributed Resource Scheduler, something like that), as it is in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 07:28:10PM +1300, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 10 December 2013 19:16, Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.com wrote: Answering myself. If connection is closed, it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Isaku Yamahata
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:43:59AM +1300, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: listening: when an agent connects after an outage, it first starts listening, then does a poll for updates it missed. Are you suggesting that processing of notifications and full state

[openstack-dev] [Swift] 1.11.0 release candidate

2013-12-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, A milestone-proposed branch was created for Swift in preparation for the 1.11.0 release, expected on Thursday. Please test the proposed delivery to ensure no critical regression found its way in. Release-critical fixes might be backported to the milestone-proposed branch until final

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/13 19:45 -0800, Alex Gaynor wrote: Would it make sense to use the `enum34` package, which is a backport of teh enum package from py3k? +1 This is what we were using in Marconi. Alex On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: While Python 3 has

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Robert Collins wrote: I think you have a very different definition of -core to the rest of OpenStack. I was actually somewhat concerned about the '+2 Guard the gate stuff' at the summit because it's so easily misinterpreted - and there is a meme going around (I don't know if it's true or not)

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [Rally] Does Ceilometer affect instance creation?

2013-12-10 Thread Nadya Privalova
Hi guys, I decided to forward this message to dev list too. On the previous week I was investigating Ceilometer performance. And this letter is a brief description of my results. Lab description: 3 controllers 187 computes HA: Galera for MySQL memcached is on, RabbitMQ in HA mode Ceilometer

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] workflow for fixes involving numerous changes

2013-12-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:45:11AM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: Hi all, I am fixing assertions in unittests now (initially https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1259023). I've seen that Clint have split this bug into three separate bugs, one per assertion misuse type. As these changes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Édouard Thuleau thul...@gmail.com wrote: There also another bug you can link/duplicate with #1192381 is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1185916. I proposed a fix but it's not the good way. I abandoned it. Édouard. Thank you for pointing this out! m.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [Rally] Does Ceilometer affect instance creation?

2013-12-10 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Dec 10 2013, Nadya Privalova wrote: Hi Nadya, Guys, if you have any questions or comments you are welcome! I think that 2x difference between avg time in empty lab and 5 sec polling scenario is not a bad result. But 100 instances that were being monitored during the test is not a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-security] Neutron security groups for L2 networks in Havana

2013-12-10 Thread Kanthi P
Hi Aaron, I missed the latest mail of this thread in my mailbox, so pasting the content of your response below. *The issue is that the nova-api says that by default every instance needs tobe in a default security group that blocks all ingress traffic from outsideand allows all ingress from

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler sub-group agenda 12/10

2013-12-10 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hi all, We made a etherpad about memcached based scheduler: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scheduler-design-proposal Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: 1) Scheduler as a Service (review BP

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Nomination of Sandy Walsh to core team

2013-12-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
Thanks John, happy to help out if possible and I agree that events could use some extra attention. -S From: Herndon, John Luke [john.hern...@hp.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 5:30 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Adam, I don't see it in the global requirements [1], needs to be added there first i think. -- dims [1] https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/12/13 19:45 -0800, Alex Gaynor

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] First steps towards amqp 1.0

2013-12-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 12/09/2013 10:37 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 12/09/2013 05:16 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/09/2013 07:15 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: Understood. The Dispatch Router was indeed created from an understanding of the limitations and drawbacks of the 'federation' feature of qpidd (which was the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] First steps towards amqp 1.0

2013-12-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 12/09/2013 11:29 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 16:05 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: Greetings, As $subject mentions, I'd like to start discussing the support for AMQP 1.0[0] in oslo.messaging. We already have rabbit and qpid drivers for earlier (and different!) versions of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [Rally] Does Ceilometer affect instance creation?

2013-12-10 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Nadya, Julien, We are working around profiling system based on logs. This will allows us to detect bottlenecks. We should make a couple of small patches in each project to support profiling. As we are going to be well integrated with OpenStack infrastructure we are going to use Ceilometer as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] First steps towards amqp 1.0

2013-12-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 12/10/2013 12:36 AM, Mike Wilson wrote: This is the first time I've heard of the dispatch router, I'm really excited now that I've looked at it a bit. Thx Gordon and Russell for bringing this up. I'm very familiar with the scaling issues associated with any kind of brokered messaging

Re: [openstack-dev] Performance Regression in Neutron/Havana compared to Quantum/Grizzly

2013-12-10 Thread Nathani, Sreedhar (APS)
Hello Peter, I have merged the code of following patches for minimize_polling setting and enabled minimize_polling in all the L2 agents https://review.openstack.org/45676 https://review.openstack.org/45677 https://review.openstack.org/45678

Re: [openstack-dev] TransportURL and virtualhost/exchnage (was Re: [Oslo] Layering olso.messaging usage of config)

2013-12-10 Thread Gordon Sim
Hi Mark, Thanks for the response! Some further followup inline... On 12/09/2013 09:53 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: It's not a completely unreasonable approach to take, but my thinking was that a transport URL connects you to a conduit which multiple applications could be sharing so you need the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-12-10 Thread Alexandre Levine
Russell, I'm a little confused about importing it into stackforge repository. Please clarify it for me. Right now our code is a part of nova itself, adding lots of files and changing several of existing, namely: service.py, cmd/api.py, setup.cfg, api-paste.ini and nova.conf.sample. This is

[openstack-dev] [UX] Weekly topic - Horizon Navigation

2013-12-10 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Dear OpenStack community, each week we are going to highlight some interesting and important UX topics here on the mailing list (though I will be referencing a lot to the Askbot tool, which we use for discussions). At the moment, we are asking for attention for *Horizon's navigation

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] First steps towards amqp 1.0

2013-12-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/12/13 12:15 +, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/09/2013 11:29 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 16:05 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: Sounds sane to me. To put it another way, assuming all AMQP 1.0 client libraries are equal, all the operator cares about is that we have a driver

Re: [openstack-dev] [olso] [cinder] upgrade issues in lock_path in cinder after oslo utils sync

2013-12-10 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2013 05:18 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 11:11 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-09 10:55, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/09/2013 11:38 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-09 08:17:45 -0800: On 12/06/2013 05:40 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-12-10 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alexandre Levine alev...@cloudscaling.com wrote: Russell, I'm a little confused about importing it into stackforge repository. Please clarify it for me. Right now our code is a part of nova itself, adding lots of files and changing several of existing,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-10 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 2013/09/12 21:22, Robert Collins wrote: Ironic today will want IPMI address + MAC for each NIC + disk/cpu/memory stats For registration it is just Management MAC address which is needed right? Or does Ironic need also IP? I think that MAC address might be enough, we can display IP in

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-10 Thread Jarret Raim
I'd like to look at keeping things simple when they can be simple. I need to understand why there¹s already a key distribution service under keystone? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40692/18/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/ma rkdown/identity-api-v3-os-kds-ext.md I¹ve said before that I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][heat] ec2tokens, v3 credentials and request signing

2013-12-10 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/09/2013 05:34 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, I have some queries about what the future of the ec2tokens API is for keystone, context as we're looking to move Heat from a horrible mixture of v2/v3 keystone to just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [Rally] Does Ceilometer affect instance creation?

2013-12-10 Thread Nadya Privalova
Julien, Yes, I use the same SQL for Nova and Ceilometer. Thanks for pointing this out. My bad, I didn't take it into account. So if we want to use Ceilometer + MySQL in production (in theory :) ) we need to use separate controllers with Ceilometer's MySQL only. And each controller may run it's

[openstack-dev] [qa][tempest] Bug Triage Day - Thu 12th - Prep

2013-12-10 Thread Adalberto Medeiros
Hi all! We have the Tempest Bug Triage Day this Thursday and there are a few points to start digging and investigating from now on. First let me share the guidelines link (Openstack Wiki for Bug Triage): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage Starting from that, there are a few issues

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Adam Young
On 12/10/2013 05:24 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/13 19:45 -0800, Alex Gaynor wrote: Would it make sense to use the `enum34` package, which is a backport of teh enum package from py3k? +1 This is what we were using in Marconi. So... they seem to be doing something different from Flufl,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] [Rally] Does Ceilometer affect instance creation?

2013-12-10 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Dec 10 2013, Nadya Privalova wrote: Yes, I use the same SQL for Nova and Ceilometer. Thanks for pointing this out. My bad, I didn't take it into account. So if we want to use Ceilometer + MySQL in production (in theory :) ) we need to use separate controllers with Ceilometer's MySQL

[openstack-dev] Catalog type naming guidelines

2013-12-10 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi, we have a concern about the correct catalog type naming for projects who'd like to have a name like data processing. It looks like space char is not the best choice, so, mainly we're trying to choose between '-' and '_'. Currently only only swift has an catalog type named with '-':

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-12-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 12/10/2013 08:47 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alexandre Levine alev...@cloudscaling.com mailto:alev...@cloudscaling.com wrote: Russell, I'm a little confused about importing it into stackforge repository. Please clarify it for me. Right

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][heat] ec2tokens, v3 credentials and request signing

2013-12-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 08:12:17AM -0600, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/09/2013 05:34 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, I have some queries about what the future of the ec2tokens API is for keystone, context as

[openstack-dev] [rally] Weekly Rally meeting

2013-12-10 Thread Mikhail Dubov
Hi all, we would like to inform you that there will be a weekly Rally team meeting today at 17:00 UTC. The meeting will be held in the *#openstack-meeting*channel. We also encourage you to check out our weekly update post: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rally/Updates. Best regards, Mikhail

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Less compiler dependency

2013-12-10 Thread Jiri Tomasek
On 12/09/2013 12:47 PM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: Hey all Horizoners, This is last time I am trying to bring this concern up (well at least last time for a while :)). But... Watching latest progress with updating Bootstrap to v3 and dealing with compiling issues, I am more and more concerned

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2013-12-09 21:37, Adam Young wrote: While Python 3 has enumerated types, Python 2 does not, and the standard package to provide id, Flufl.enum, is not yet part of our code base. Is there any strong objection to including Flufl.enum? http://pythonhosted.org/flufl.enum/ It makes for some

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V Meeting Cancelled

2013-12-10 Thread Peter Pouliot
Hi All, I will be unable to attend the Hyper-V meeting today and as such will need to postpone the discussion until next week. Peter J. Pouliot CISSP Sr. SDET OpenStack Microsoft New England Research Development Center 1 Memorial Drive Cambridge, MA 02142 P: 1.(857).4536436 E:

Re: [openstack-dev] Catalog type naming guidelines

2013-12-10 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.comwrote: we have a concern about the correct catalog type naming for projects who'd like to have a name like data processing. just out of interests why is it a problem and need to be standardized, isn't that supposed to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-12-10 Thread Alexandre Levine
Does nova actually have add-ons infrastructure in which our GCE API can fit? I see the plugins with xen-server only and have found this link: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api/nova.openstack.common.plugin.plugin.html. Is it the thing? I'm trying to understand what you meant by this:

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testing meeting

2013-12-10 Thread Kyle Mestery
Last week I took an action item to organize a meeting for everyone who is doing third-party testing in Neutron for plugins, whether this is vendor or Open Source based. The idea is to share ideas around setups and any issues people hit. I'd like to set this meeting up for this week, Thursday at

[openstack-dev] Fwd: [qa][tempest] Bug Triage Day - Thu 12th - Prep

2013-12-10 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
would be nice to participate for the ppl interested with tempest Chmouel. -- Forwarded message -- From: Adalberto Medeiros adal...@linux.vnet.ibm.com Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:52 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [qa][tempest] Bug Triage Day - Thu 12th - Prep To: OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-12-10 Thread Alexandre Levine
Yes, I understand it perfectly, Cristopher, and cannot agree more. It's just more work to reach this right now than use what's present. Still in my opinion even in a mid-run just till IceHouse release it might be less work overall. I'm going to think it over. Alex 10.12.2013 17:47,

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
Guys, I see two major trends in the thread: * use Salt * write our own solution with architecture similar to Salt or MCollective There were points raised pro and contra both solutions. But I have a concern which I believe was not covered yet. Both solutions use either ZeroMQ or message queues

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/10/2013 09:55 AM, Adam Young wrote: On 12/10/2013 05:24 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/13 19:45 -0800, Alex Gaynor wrote: Would it make sense to use the `enum34` package, which is a backport of teh enum package from py3k? +1 This is what we were using in Marconi. So... they seem

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:43:59AM +1300, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: listening: when an agent connects after an outage, it first starts listening, then does a poll for updates it missed. Are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Less compiler dependency

2013-12-10 Thread Jordan OMara
On 10/12/13 16:41 +0100, Jiri Tomasek wrote: On 12/09/2013 12:47 PM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: Hey all Horizoners, This is last time I am trying to bring this concern up (well at least last time for a while :)). But... Watching latest progress with updating Bootstrap to v3 and dealing with

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2]. Its design is somewhat different and can be expressed by the following formulae: App - Host (XenStore) - Guest Agent (taken from the wiki [3]) It has an obvious disadvantage - it is hypervisor

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Alex Gaynor
from flufl.enum import IntEnum class A(IntEnum): ... a = 3 ... A.a EnumValue: A.a [value=3] Alex On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/10/2013 09:55 AM, Adam Young wrote: On 12/10/2013 05:24 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/13 19:45 -0800, Alex

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: The IntEnum is my new definition of the most worthless class ever invented in the Python ecosystem -- taking the place of zope.interface on my personal wall of worthlessness. this is the kind of things you can do with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-10 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 2013/09/12 23:38, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: Thanks for the explanation! I'm going to claim that the thread revolves around two main areas of disagreement. Then I'm going to propose a way through: a) Manual Node Assignment I think that everyone is agreed that automated node assignment through

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/10/2013 11:26 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote: from flufl.enum import IntEnum class A(IntEnum): ... a = 3 ... A.a EnumValue: A.a [value=3] If the __repr__ is *really* the only value of IntEnum, I'm less than impressed. -jay On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Hi David, I am cool with the proposal, just wanted to grad you attention on may question which I asked in my last email (which is below) Q. what if two (or more) endpoints want to have same role_name for a service (nova.east.admin, nova.west.admin, nova.north.admin .)? (Can we think of

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic][qa] How will ironic tests run in tempest?

2013-12-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/09/2013 01:37 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Clark Boylan clark.boy...@gmail.com mailto:clark.boy...@gmail.com wrote: snip We can test the ironic services, database, and the driver interfaces by using our fake driver within a single devstack VM today

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testing meeting

2013-12-10 Thread Veiga, Anthony
-Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery mest...@siliconloons.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:48 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-10 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: That's why I thought creating VIP parties for +2 reviewers (or giving them special badges or T-shirts) is spreading the wrong message, and encourage people to hang on to the extra rights associated with the duty.

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] Weekly topic - Horizon Navigation

2013-12-10 Thread Lyle, David
This topic has been available on ux-askbot and ux Google+ forum before that for months. Based on that alone, I don’t believe the vote was limited. All input was taken and considered. In the end, there are strong opinions on both sides. What the final outcome was… We’ll implement the

Re: [openstack-dev] Catalog type naming guidelines

2013-12-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/10/2013 09:57 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: Hi, we have a concern about the correct catalog type naming for projects who'd like to have a name like data processing. It looks like space char is not the best choice, so, mainly we're trying to choose between '-' and '_'. Currently only only

Re: [openstack-dev] Performance Regression in Neutron/Havana compared to Quantum/Grizzly

2013-12-10 Thread Peter Feiner
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Nathani, Sreedhar (APS) sreedhar.nath...@hp.com wrote: My setup has 17 L2 agents (16 compute nodes, one Network node). Setting the minimize_polling helped to reduce the CPU utilization by the L2 agents but it did not help in instances getting the IP during

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Less compiler dependency

2013-12-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/10/2013 11:41 PM, Jiri Tomasek wrote: On 12/09/2013 12:47 PM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: So I would like to ask everybody, if we can reconsider this dependency and find some other alternative. I know we moved from nodejs, because it is packaging nightmare. But honestly, better to invest more

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testing meeting

2013-12-10 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Dec 10, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Veiga, Anthony anthony_ve...@cable.comcast.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery mest...@siliconloons.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-09 16:31:37 -0800: On 6 December 2013 21:56, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: Hey there, thanks Rob for keeping eye on this. Speaking for myself, as current non-coder it was very hard to keep pace with others, especially when

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testing meeting

2013-12-10 Thread Collins, Sean (Contractor)
+1 for the meeting time. Any particular reason for voice over IRC? We kind of decided that doing this over voice initially would be expedient, but I am fine with moving to IRC. If I don't hear objections, lets assume we will meet at 1700UTC Thursday on #openstack-meeting-alt. +1 for

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testingmeeting

2013-12-10 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
+1 for 1700UTC Thursday on IRC -Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@siliconloons.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:21 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testing

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-10 Thread Robin Wang
NSX makes firewall distributed also. So besides VPN, before neutron implements FW also in a distributed fashion, it might be another reason that people need existing router. Discussion about advanced services and dvr is recorded here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Distributed-Virtual-Router

[openstack-dev] [heat] Stack preview

2013-12-10 Thread Richard Lee
Hey all, We're working on a blueprinthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/preview-stack that adds the ability to preview what a given template+parameters would create in terms of resources. We think this would provide significant value for blueprint authors and for other heat users that

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:15:15 -0800: Guys, I see two major trends in the thread: * use Salt * write our own solution with architecture similar to Salt or MCollective There were points raised pro and contra both solutions. But I have a concern

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:25:26 -0800: And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2]. Its design is somewhat different and can be expressed by the following formulae: App - Host (XenStore) - Guest Agent

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack preview

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Richard Lee's message of 2013-12-10 09:46:49 -0800: Hey all, We're working on a blueprinthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/preview-stack that adds the ability to preview what a given template+parameters would create in terms of resources. We think this would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Less compiler dependency

2013-12-10 Thread Jordan OMara
On 11/12/13 01:06 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 12/10/2013 11:41 PM, Jiri Tomasek wrote: On 12/09/2013 12:47 PM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: So I would like to ask everybody, if we can reconsider this dependency and find some other alternative. I know we moved from nodejs, because it is packaging

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-10 Thread Nachi Ueno
I'm +1 for 'provider'. 2013/12/9 Akihiro Motoki mot...@da.jp.nec.com: Neutron defines provider attribute and it is/will be used in advanced services (LB, FW, VPN). Doesn't it fit for a distributed router case? If we can cover all services with one concept, it would be nice. According to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-12-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 12/10/2013 11:13 AM, Alexandre Levine wrote: Yes, I understand it perfectly, Cristopher, and cannot agree more. It's just more work to reach this right now than use what's present. Still in my opinion even in a mid-run just till IceHouse release it might be less work overall. I'm going to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testingmeeting

2013-12-10 Thread Nachi Ueno
+1 ! I'll join. I'm also working on investigating how to use openstack gating system. (This document is still draft version) https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1WJInaSt_H2kVkjnhtPmiATP1F-0BVbuk1eefQalL5Q0/edit#slide=id.p 2013/12/10 Ivar Lazzaro i...@embrane.com: +1 for 1700UTC Thursday on

[openstack-dev] FW: [Bug 1257788] Re: nova-network doesn't handle large amount of concurrent booting instances well

2013-12-10 Thread Edgar Magana
FYI. Concurrent calls are a problem all around in OpenStack! Edgar On 12/10/13 8:47 AM, Abhishek Chanda abhis...@cloudscaling.com wrote: ** Changed in: nova Status: New = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to neutron.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-12-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 12/10/2013 10:47 AM, Alexandre Levine wrote: Does nova actually have add-ons infrastructure in which our GCE API can fit? I see the plugins with xen-server only and have found this link: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api/nova.openstack.common.plugin.plugin.html. Is it the thing?

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack preview

2013-12-10 Thread Anderson Mesquita
It's still sparse cause we're brainstorming what it'll look like, but if anybody has suggestions, we more than welcome them! More updates to the spec are coming soon! =) 2013/12/10 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Richard Lee's message of 2013-12-10 09:46:49 -0800: Hey all,

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Loadbalancer instance

2013-12-10 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi Neutron and LBaaS folks, Initial version of blueprint lbaas-service-instance is on review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60207/ This patch is one of few major features that we've planned for LBaaS in Icehouse and is a basis for other important features like L7 rules, multiple vips/pools.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testingmeeting

2013-12-10 Thread Rudra Rugge
+1 for the meeting time. On Dec 10, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com wrote: +1 ! I'll join. I'm also working on investigating how to use openstack gating system. (This document is still draft version)

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testingmeeting

2013-12-10 Thread Edgar Magana
Also joining! Looking forward to hearing your ideas folks! Edgar On 12/10/13 10:16 AM, Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com wrote: +1 ! I'll join. I'm also working on investigating how to use openstack gating system. (This document is still draft version)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] workflow for fixes involving numerous changes

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-12-10 03:00:26 -0800: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:45:11AM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: - wouldn't it be better to keep all these changes in one bug and fix all misuses per file basis (with one file per patch-set for example)? It seems to me

[openstack-dev] [Solum] [Plan]

2013-12-10 Thread devdatta kulkarni
Hi Adrian, Thanks for creating https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-demystified I am really excited to see the examples. Especially cool is how examples 2 and 3 demonstrate using a component (solum_glance_id) created as part of example 1. Some questions/comments: 1) Summarizing the sequence

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-10 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
Thanks for the reply! Comments in-line: The disagreement comes from whether we need manual node assignment or not. I would argue that we need to step back and take a look at the real use case: heterogeneous nodes. If there are literally no characteristics that differentiate nodes A

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-12-10 Thread Adam Young
On 12/10/2013 11:42 AM, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi David, I am cool with the proposal, just wanted to grad you attention on may question which I asked in my last email (which is below) Q. what if two (or more) endpoints want to have same role_name for a service (nova.east.admin,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-10 Thread Jay Dobies
Thanks for the explanation! I'm going to claim that the thread revolves around two main areas of disagreement. Then I'm going to propose a way through: a) Manual Node Assignment I think that everyone is agreed that automated node assignment through nova-scheduler is by far the most ideal

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Third party Neutron plugin testingmeeting

2013-12-10 Thread Gary Duan
I will be joining IRC too. Thanks, Gary On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com wrote: Also joining! Looking forward to hearing your ideas folks! Edgar On 12/10/13 10:16 AM, Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com wrote: +1 ! I'll join. I'm also working on investigating

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack convergence first steps

2013-12-10 Thread Anderson Mesquita
To try and keep this conversation moving forward, is it safe to say that we at least need to change the current status attribute to something like action_status? And the same with status_reason being changed to action_status_reason? Does anybody see a reason why we shouldn't go this way, since

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
2013/12/10 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:25:26 -0800: And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2]. Its design is somewhat different and can be expressed by the following

[openstack-dev] [Nova] icehouse-2 blueprint deadline

2013-12-10 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, We have a lot of blueprints targeted to icehouse-2 [1] that are still under review. The blueprints that do not have a priority are still under review. We need a deadline for blueprints to be finalized for this milestone. I propose that deadline to be Thursday, December 19. Any

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack preview

2013-12-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 10/12/13 12:46, Richard Lee wrote: Hey all, We're working on a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/preview-stack that adds the ability to preview what a given template+parameters would create in terms of resources. We think this would provide significant value for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] workflow for fixes involving numerous changes

2013-12-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 10/12/13 13:34, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-12-10 03:00:26 -0800: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:45:11AM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: - wouldn't it be better to keep all these changes in one bug and fix all misuses per file basis (with one file per

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 10, 2013 7:00 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:15:15 -0800: Guys, I see two major trends in the thread: * use Salt * write our own solution with architecture similar to Salt or MCollective There were

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 11:08:58 -0800: 2013/12/10 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:25:26 -0800: And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2].

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack preview

2013-12-10 Thread Randall Burt
On Dec 10, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/12/13 12:46, Richard Lee wrote: Hey all, We're working on a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/preview-stack that adds the ability to preview what a given template+parameters would create in terms

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Meeting Tuesday December 10th at 19:00 UTC

2013-12-10 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph l...@princessleia.com wrote: The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday December 10th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting minutes and log: Minutes:

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