Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 05/09/2014 01:26, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/04/2014 10:33 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: Basically +1 with what Daniel is saying (note that, as mentioned, a side effect of our effort to split out the scheduler will help but not solve this problem). The difference between Dan's proposal and th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 05/09/2014 01:22, Michael Still a écrit : On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: [Heavy snipping because of length] The radical (?) solution to the nova core team bottleneck is thus to follow this lead and split the nova virt drivers out into separate projects and deleg

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-05 Thread Stephen Wong
I agree with Prasad here. There remains lots of unknown about Neutron incubator and its workflow at this point, and the idea of Neutron feature branch is at best in embryonic stage. It seems like among the three options, the most well-defined one is indeed through stackforge. When and if the Neut

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally][iperf] Benchmarking network performance

2014-09-05 Thread masoom alam
Thanks Ajay I corrected this earlier. But facing another problem. Will forward paste in a while. On Friday, September 5, 2014, Ajay Kalambur (akalambu) wrote: > Sorry there was typo in the patch should be @validation and not > @(validation > Please change that in vm_perf.py > > Sent from my

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Benton
Tl;dr - Neutron incubator is only a wiki page with many uncertainties. Use StackForge to make progress and re-evaluate when the incubator exists. I also agree that starting out in StackForge as a separate repo is a better first step. In addition to the uncertainty around packaging and other proce

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/04/2014 07:08 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 06:01:45 -0700: >> On 09/04/2014 02:14 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 09/04/2014 03:08 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-09-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eoghan Glynn wrote: >>> Am I missing some compelling advantage of moving all these emergent >>> project-specific meetups to the Friday? >> >> One is that due to space limitations, we won't have nearly as many >> "pods" as in Atlanta (more like half or a third of them). Without one >> pod per progra

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][FFE] Feature freeze exception for virt-driver-numa-placement

2014-09-05 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 09/04/2014 07:42 PM, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: > > >> > >>> Anyway, not enough to -1 it, but enough to at least say something. > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> .. but I do not want to get into the discussion about software testing > >> > >> here, not the place really. > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][Keystone] Steps toward Kerberos and Federation

2014-09-05 Thread Marco Fargetta
Hi, I am wondering if the solution I was trying to sketch with the spec "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96867/13"; is not easier to implement and manage then the steps highlated till n.2. Maybe, the spec is not yet there and should be improved (I will abandon or move to Kilo as Marek suggest) bu

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 02:56:04PM -0500, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > wrote: > > Proposal / solution > > === > > > > In the past Nova has spun out its volume layer to form the cinder > > project. The Neutron project started as an atte

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Brainstorming summit sessions

2014-09-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Michael Still wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Steve Gordon wrote: > >> Did you have a specific goal/date in mind for when you might start to >> finalize this list? I am guessing at least after the dust settles on J-3 and >> possibly even the first RCs but just curious. > > Good quest

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally][iperf] Benchmarking network performance

2014-09-05 Thread masoom alam
http://paste.openstack.org/show/106297/ On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, masoom alam wrote: > Thanks Ajay > > I corrected this earlier. But facing another problem. Will forward paste > in a while. > > > > On Friday, September 5, 2014, Ajay Kalambur (akalambu) > wrote: > >> Sorry there was typ

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:44:17PM -0600, John Griffith wrote: > Just some thoughts and observations I've had regarding this topic in Cinder > the past couple of years. I realize this is a Nova thread so hopefully > some of this can be applied in a more general context. > > TLDR: > 1. I think mov

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Tim Bell wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org] >> Sent: 04 September 2014 16:59 >> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during >> the TC meeting >> >> Sean Dague wrote: >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally][iperf] Benchmarking network performance

2014-09-05 Thread masoom alam
Please forward ur vmtasks.py file On Friday, September 5, 2014, masoom alam wrote: > http://paste.openstack.org/show/106297/ > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, masoom alam > wrote: > >> Thanks Ajay >> >> I corrected this earlier. But facing another problem. Will forward paste >> in a while.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 12:57:57PM -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > wrote: > > Proposal / solution > > === > > > > In the past Nova has spun out its volume layer to form the cinder > > project. The Neutron project started as an attempt

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][IPv6] Neighbor Discovery for HA

2014-09-05 Thread Xu Han Peng
Carl, Seem so. I think internal router interface and external gateway port GARP are taken care by keepalived during failover. And if HA is not enable, _send_gratuitous_arp is called to send out GARP. I think we will need to take care IPv6 for both cases since keepalived 1.2.0 support IPv6. M

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 06:48:33PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 09/04/2014 06:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > Position statement > > == > > > > Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that > > Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/04/2014 09:44 PM, Kurt Griffiths wrote: Thanks for your comments Gordon. I appreciate where you are coming from and I think we are actually in agreement on a lot of things. I just want to make it clear that from the very beginning of the project the team has tried to communicate (but perha

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:24:29 +0100 "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > > - A fairly significant amount of nova code would need to be >considered semi-stable API. Certainly everything under nova/virt >and any object which is passed in/out of the virt driver API. >Changes to such APIs would h

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Compute agent local VM inspector - potential enhancement

2014-09-05 Thread Rao Dingyuan
Hi folks, Is there anybody working on this? In most of our cloud environments, business networks are isolated from management network. So, we are thinking about making *an agent in guest machine to send metrics to compute node using virtual serial port*. And then, compute node could send those

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 12:57:57 -0700 Joe Gordon wrote: > > Overall I do think we need to re-think how the review burden is > distributed. That being said, this is a nice proposal but I am not > sure if it moves the review burden around enough or is the right > approach. Do you have any rough number

[openstack-dev] Feature freeze + Juno-3 milestone candidates available

2014-09-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, We just hit feature freeze[1], so please do not approve changes that add features or new configuration options unless those have been granted a feature freeze exception. This is also string freeze[2], so you should avoid changing translatable strings. If you have to modify a translat

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 03:54:28PM -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > Thanks Daniel for taking the time to write such deep message. Obviously > you have thought about this issue for a long time and your opinion comes > from deep personal understanding. I'm adding tags for neutron and > cinder, as I k

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:31:50PM +0930, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:24:29 +0100 > "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > > > > - A fairly significant amount of nova code would need to be > >considered semi-stable API. Certainly everything under nova/virt > >and any object wh

[openstack-dev] [Keystone] NNN_additional_attribute_mapping

2014-09-05 Thread Alexander V Makarov
Greetings! I think I found a problem in extra attributes handling in LDAP backend. Also I'd like to propose a solution :) There is a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1336769 "LDAP additional attribute mappings do not care about model attribute" reported by Marcos Lobo (https://launchp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Defining what is a SupportStatus version

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:56:34PM +1000, Angus Salkeld wrote: >On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Gauvain Pocentek > wrote: > > Hi, > > A bit of background: I'm working on the publication of the HOT resources > reference on docs.openstack.org. This book is mostly autogenerate

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
On 4 September 2014 23:48, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 09/04/2014 06:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> Position statement >> == >> >> Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that >> Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If >> steps are no

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 09/04/2014 12:24 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Position statement > == > > Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that > Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If > steps are not taken to avert this, the project is likely to loose > a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 06:22:18PM -0500, Michael Still wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > wrote: > > [Heavy snipping because of length] > > > The radical (?) solution to the nova core team bottleneck is thus to > > follow this lead and split the nova virt drivers out

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 03:02 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > Le 05/09/2014 01:22, Michael Still a écrit : >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange >> wrote: >> >> [Heavy snipping because of length] >> >>> The radical (?) solution to the nova core team bottleneck is thus to >>> follow this lead a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
On 5 September 2014 00:26, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 09/04/2014 10:33 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: >> >> Basically +1 with what Daniel is saying (note that, as mentioned, a >> side effect of our effort to split out the scheduler will help but >> not solve this problem). > > > The difference between Dan

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 09/05/2014 01:26 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 09/04/2014 10:33 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: >> Basically +1 with what Daniel is saying (note that, as mentioned, a >> side effect of our effort to split out the scheduler will help but >> not solve this problem). > > The difference between Dan's propo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/04/2014 07:22 PM, Michael Still wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > wrote: > > [Heavy snipping because of length] > >> The radical (?) solution to the nova core team bottleneck is thus to >> follow this lead and split the nova virt drivers out into separate >> pr

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:29:43AM +0100, John Garbutt wrote: > On 4 September 2014 23:48, Russell Bryant wrote: > > On 09/04/2014 06:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > If we ignored gerrit for a moment, is rapid increase in splitting out > > components the ideal workflow? Would we be better of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 06:22 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:31:50PM +0930, Christopher Yeoh wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:24:29 +0100 >> "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: >>> >>> - A fairly significant amount of nova code would need to be >>>considered semi-stable API. Certainl

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 09/04/2014 10:25 PM, Solly Ross wrote: > Anyway, I think it would be useful to have some sort of page where people > could say "I'm an SME in X, ask me for reviews" and then patch submitters > could go > and say, "oh, I need an someone to review my patch about storage backends, > let me > ask

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] instance lock and class lock

2014-09-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
given the code size, a BP may be a over stretch. I'd just file a review + bug -- dims On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Zang MingJie wrote: > does it require bp or bug report to submit oslo.concurrency patch ? > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> >> Zang MingJie, >> >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:40:59PM +0200, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > On 09/04/2014 12:24 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > - A fairly significant amount of nova code would need to be > >considered semi-stable API. Certainly everything under nova/virt > >and any object which is passed in/out o

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 06:40 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > On 09/04/2014 12:24 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> Position statement >> == >> >> Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that >> Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If >> steps are not ta

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:00:44AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/05/2014 06:22 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:31:50PM +0930, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:24:29 +0100 > >> "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > >>> > >>> - A fairly significant amount o

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FFE request serial-ports

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
Blueprint restored, patches re-approved. Thanks, John On 5 September 2014 00:25, Michael Still wrote: > Approved. > > Michael > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: >> On 09/04/2014 02:42 PM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I would like to request a FFE for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FFE request v2-on-v3-api

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
Patches re-approved. Thanks, John On 5 September 2014 00:24, Michael Still wrote: > Approved. > > Michael > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi > wrote: >> 2014-09-04 20:34 GMT+09:00 Christopher Yeoh : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'd like to request a FFE for 4 changesets from the v2-on-v3-

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 05:27 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Tim Bell wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org] >>> Sent: 04 September 2014 16:59 >>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose

Re: [openstack-dev] [vmware][nova][FFE] vmware-spawn-refactor

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
Yeah, I have been reviewing these, so happy to sponsor them too. Patches have been re-approved. Thanks, John On 5 September 2014 00:23, Michael Still wrote: > So, that's your three. This exception is approved. > > Michael > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: >> On 09/04/20

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Robert Collins
On 5 September 2014 08:44, Kurt Griffiths wrote: > In fact, I personally have long been a proponent of using the best tool > for the job. The Zaqar project was kicked off at an unconference session > several summits ago because the community saw a need that was not covered > by other messaging sy

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Robert Collins
On 5 September 2014 23:33, Sean Dague wrote: > I think realistically a self certification process that would have > artifacts in a discoverable place. I was thinking something along the > lines of a baseball card interface with a short description of the > project, a list of the requirements to d

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:12:37AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/05/2014 06:40 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > > A handy example of this I can think of is the currently granted FFE for > > serial consoles - consider how much of the code went into the common > > part vs. the libvirt specific part, I

[openstack-dev] [Nova] FFE flood gates open

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
Hi, We have now tagged juno-3, so we are good to approve patches for FFE now. Given how much there is to get through the gate, it would be nice to concentrate on FFE code, and higher priority bugs, till we break the back of those merges. Thanks, John

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] FFE for libvirt-disk-discard-option

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:28:55AM +, Bohai (ricky) wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to ask for a feature freeze exception for blueprint > libvirt-disk-discard-option. > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112977/ > > approved spec: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85556/ > > blueprint was approved

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] FFE for libvirt-start-lxc-from-block-devices

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
Blueprint re-approved, patches have -2 removed, now we are free to approve code again. Thanks, John On 4 September 2014 21:45, Michael Still wrote: > These look good to me, I will be your third core. The middle one has > some comments from Jay, but it didn't look like a big deal > > Approved. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] Feature freeze exception for config-drive-image-property

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
Blueprint re-approved, code re-approved. Thanks, John On 4 September 2014 21:11, Michael Still wrote: > I'll be the third core here. Approved. > > @John: can you please remove your -2 from this one? > > Michael > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 09/04/2014 03:35 PM, Jay

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] requesting an FFE for SRIOV

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
In the nova-meeting we agreed this gets a FFE, based on previous agreements in nova-meetings. Blueprint is approved for juno-rc1. Thanks, John On 4 September 2014 16:38, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > On 09/04/2014 05:16 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >>> The main sr-iov patches have gone through lots of code r

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Review metrics - what do we want to measure?

2014-09-05 Thread Sullivan, Jon Paul
> -Original Message- > From: Jay Dobies [mailto:jason.dob...@redhat.com] > Sent: 04 September 2014 18:24 > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Review metrics - what do we want > to measure? > > >> It can, by running your own... but again it seems

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 07:26 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:00:44AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 09/05/2014 06:22 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:31:50PM +0930, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:24:29 +0100 "Daniel P. Berrange"

Re: [openstack-dev] [FFE] [nova] Barbican key manager wrapper

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 05:19:45PM +, Coffman, Joel M. wrote: > A major concern about several encryption features within Nova [1, 2] has been > the lack of secure key management. To address this concern, work has been > underway to integrate these features with Barbican [3], which can be used

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][FFE] v3-api-schema

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
I am happy to sponsor this too. That makes three cores, so lets call this approved. Thanks, John On 5 September 2014 05:55, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > 2014-09-04 22:36 GMT+09:00 Sean Dague : >> On 09/04/2014 09:30 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I'd like to request FFE for patches o

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: I venture to suggest that the reason we care so much about those kind of things is precisely because of our policy of pulling them in the tree. Having them in tree means their quality (or not) reflects directly on the project as a whole. Separate the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 07:40 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:12:37AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 09/05/2014 06:40 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: >>> A handy example of this I can think of is the currently granted FFE for >>> serial consoles - consider how much of the code went into

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] requesting an FFE for SRIOV

2014-09-05 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Thanks!!! —Robert On 9/5/14, 7:48 AM, "John Garbutt" wrote: >In the nova-meeting we agreed this gets a FFE, based on previous >agreements in nova-meetings. > >Blueprint is approved for juno-rc1. > >Thanks, >John > >On 4 September 2014 16:38, Nikola Đipanov wrote: >> On 09/04/2014 05:16 PM, Dan

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] FFE for libvirt-disk-discard-option

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 07:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:28:55AM +, Bohai (ricky) wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to ask for a feature freeze exception for blueprint >> libvirt-disk-discard-option. >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112977/ >> >> approved spec: >> https://r

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] FFE for libvirt-disk-discard-option

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 07:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:28:55AM +, Bohai (ricky) wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to ask for a feature freeze exception for blueprint >> libvirt-disk-discard-option. >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112977/ >> >> approved spec: >> https://r

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 07:39 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 5 September 2014 23:33, Sean Dague wrote: > >> I think realistically a self certification process that would have >> artifacts in a discoverable place. I was thinking something along the >> lines of a baseball card interface with a short descript

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/04/2014 09:44 PM, Kurt Griffiths wrote: Does a Qpid/Rabbit/Kafka provisioning service make sense? Probably. I think something like that would be valuable, especially in conjunction with some application layer proxying and mapping between 'virtual' addresses/endpoints and specific queues

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:49:04AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/05/2014 07:26 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:00:44AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 09/05/2014 06:22 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >>> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:31:50PM +0930, Christopher Yeoh wro

Re: [openstack-dev] [FFE] [nova] Barbican key manager wrapper

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 07:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 05:19:45PM +, Coffman, Joel M. wrote: >> A major concern about several encryption features within Nova [1, 2] has >> been the lack of secure key management. To address this concern, work has >> been underway to integr

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > For a long time I've use the LKML 'subsystem maintainers' model as the > reference point for ideas. In a more LKML like model, each virt team > (or other subsystem team) would have their own separate GIT repo with > a complete Nova codebase, where they did they day to da

[openstack-dev] [Manila] Docs plan for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread Swartzlander, Ben
Now that the project is incubated, we should be moving our docs from the openstack wiki to the openstack-manuals project. Rushil Chugh has volunteered to lead this effort so please coordinate any updates to documentation with him (and me). Our goal is to have the updates to openstack-manuals ups

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Michael Still wrote: > We're soon to hit feature freeze, as discussed in Thierry's recent > email. I'd like to outline the process for requesting a freeze > exception: > > * your code must already be up for review > * your blueprint must have an approved spec > * you need three (3) spo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/05/2014 02:59 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 05/09/2014 01:26, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/04/2014 10:33 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: Basically +1 with what Daniel is saying (note that, as mentioned, a side effect of our effort to split out the scheduler will help but not solve this problem).

Re: [openstack-dev] [FFE] [nova] Barbican key manager wrapper

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/05/2014 08:11 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/05/2014 07:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 05:19:45PM +, Coffman, Joel M. wrote: >>> A major concern about several encryption features within Nova [1, 2] has >>> been the lack of secure key management. To address thi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 05/09/2014 13:05, Nikola Đipanov a écrit : On 09/04/2014 10:25 PM, Solly Ross wrote: Anyway, I think it would be useful to have some sort of page where people could say "I'm an SME in X, ask me for reviews" and then patch submitters could go and say, "oh, I need an someone to review my patc

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][FFE] websocket-proxy-to-host-security

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 12:59:07PM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: > I would like to request a feature freeze exception for the Websocket Proxy to > Host Security. > The spec [1] was approved for Nova, and the patches [2] are currently sitting > there with one > +2 (courtesy of @danpb), with a +1 from J

[openstack-dev] [nova] FFE server-group-quotas

2014-09-05 Thread Day, Phil
Hi, I'd like to ask for a FFE for the 3 patchsets that implement quotas for server groups. Server groups (which landed in Icehouse) provides a really useful anti-affinity filter for scheduling that a lot of customers woudl like to use, but without some form of quota control to limit the amount

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [FFE] alternative request for v2-on-v3-api

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/04/2014 07:54 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:08:09 +0900 > "Ken'ichi Ohmichi" wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I'd like to request FFE for v2.1 API patches. >> >> This request is different from Christopher's one. >> His request is for the approved patches, but this is >> for some p

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 05/09/2014 14:48, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/05/2014 02:59 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 05/09/2014 01:26, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/04/2014 10:33 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: Basically +1 with what Daniel is saying (note that, as mentioned, a side effect of our effort to split out the schedul

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][FFE] Feature freeze exception for virt-driver-numa-placement

2014-09-05 Thread Nikola Đipanov
Since this did not get an 'Approved' as of yet, I want to make sure that this is not because the number of sponsors. 2 core members have already sponsored it, and as per [1] cores can sponsor their own FFEs so that's 3. N. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/0446

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 05/09/2014 12:48, Sean Dague a écrit : On 09/05/2014 03:02 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 05/09/2014 01:22, Michael Still a écrit : On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: [Heavy snipping because of length] The radical (?) solution to the nova core team bottleneck is thus

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/04/2014 01:14 PM, Sean Dague wrote: https://dague.net/2014/08/26/openstack-as-layers/ Just wanted to say that I found this article very useful indeed and agree with the points you make in it. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/05/2014 08:58 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 05/09/2014 14:48, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/05/2014 02:59 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 05/09/2014 01:26, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/04/2014 10:33 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: Basically +1 with what Daniel is saying (note that, as mentioned, a side

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Day, Phil
> -Original Message- > From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net] > Sent: 05 September 2014 11:49 > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out > virt drivers > > On 09/05/2014 03:02 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][feature freeze exception] Can I get an exception for AMQP 1.0?

2014-09-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Ken Giusti wrote: > Hello, > > I'm proposing a freeze exception for the oslo.messaging AMQP 1.0 > driver: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75815/ > > Blueprint: > > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+spec/amqp10-driver-implementation > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Docs plan for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi Ben, Since manila just entered incubation, the openstack-manuals repo and common documentation will not include it until it is integrated. During incubation we ask you to start documentation in your own repo and identify what will eventually move into common docs. See https://wiki.openstack.org/

[openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-05 Thread Sean Dague
While reviewing this zookeeper service group fix in Nova - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102639/ it was exposed that the zookeeper tests aren't running in infra. The crux of the issue is that zookeeper python modules are C extensions. So you have to either install from packages (which we don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Victoria Martínez de la Cruz
2014-09-05 9:09 GMT-03:00 Sean Dague : > On 09/05/2014 07:39 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > > On 5 September 2014 23:33, Sean Dague wrote: > > > >> I think realistically a self certification process that would have > >> artifacts in a discoverable place. I was thinking something along the > >> lines

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 05/09/2014 15:11, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/05/2014 08:58 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 05/09/2014 14:48, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/05/2014 02:59 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 05/09/2014 01:26, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 09/04/2014 10:33 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: Basically +1 with what Daniel

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Eric Windisch
> > > - Each virt driver project gets its own core team and is responsible >for dealing with review, merge & release of their codebase. > > Note, I really do mean *all* virt drivers should be separate. I do > not want to see some virt drivers split out and others remain in tree > because I fee

[openstack-dev] [Nova] [FFE] Final Libvirt User Namespaces Patch

2014-09-05 Thread Andrew Melton
Hey Devs, I'd like to request a feature freeze exception for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94915/ This feature is the final patch set for the User Namespace BP (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-lxc-user-namespaces). This is an important feature for libvirt-lxc because in

[openstack-dev] [Sahara][FFE] Requesting exception for Swift trust authentication blueprint

2014-09-05 Thread Michael McCune
hey folks, I am requesting an exception for the Swift trust authentication blueprint[1]. This blueprint addresses a security bug in Sahara and represents a significant move towards increased security for Sahara clusters. There are several reviews underway[2] with 1 or 2 more starting today or m

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [FFE] Final Libvirt User Namespaces Patch

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 01:49:20PM +, Andrew Melton wrote: > Hey Devs, > > I'd like to request a feature freeze exception for: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94915/ > > This feature is the final patch set for the User Namespace BP > (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-lx

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FFE server-group-quotas

2014-09-05 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
+1 for ServerGroup quotas. It's been a while since this feature is discussed and approved. As a public cloud provider we really want to get ServerGroup into production. However, without quotas it is more harm than gain. Since ServerGroup (and even its novaclient's command) is merged in Icehouse, IM

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/05/2014 06:29 AM, John Garbutt wrote: Scheduler: I think we need to split out the scheduler with a similar level of urgency. We keep blocking features on the split, because we know we don't have the review bandwidth to deal with them. Right now I am talking about a compute related scheduler

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] libvirt version_cap, a postmortem

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
On 3 September 2014 21:57, Joe Gordon wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: >> Hey >> >> The libvirt version_cap debacle continues to come up in conversation and >> one perception of the whole thing appears to be: >> >> A controversial patch was "ninjaed" by three Red

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][Keystone] Steps toward Kerberos and Federation

2014-09-05 Thread Adam Young
On 09/05/2014 04:49 AM, Marco Fargetta wrote: Hi, I am wondering if the solution I was trying to sketch with the spec "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96867/13"; is not easier to implement and manage then the steps highlated till n.2. Maybe, the spec is not yet there and should be improved (I w

[openstack-dev] [Infra][Cinder] Coraid CI system

2014-09-05 Thread Mykola Grygoriev
Hi, My name is Mykola Grygoriev and I'm engineer who currently working on deploying 3d party CI for Сoraid Сinder driver. Following instructions on http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#requesting-a-service-account asking for adding gerrit CI account (coraid-ci) to the Voting Third-Party CI

[openstack-dev] Status update on the python-openstacksdk project

2014-09-05 Thread Brian Curtin
Hi all, Between recent IRC meetings and the mid-cycle operators meetup, we've heard things ranging from "is the SDK project still around" to "I can't wait for this." I'm Brian Curtin from Rackspace and I'd like to tell you what the python-openstacksdk [0][1] project has been up to lately. After i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread John Garbutt
On 2 September 2014 20:23, Michael Still wrote: > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: >> On 09/02/2014 08:16 PM, Michael Still wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> We're soon to hit feature freeze, as discussed in Thierry's recent >>> email. I'd like to outline the process for requesting a fr

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-05 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/05/2014 06:32 AM, Sean Dague wrote: While reviewing this zookeeper service group fix in Nova - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102639/ it was exposed that the zookeeper tests aren't running in infra. The crux of the issue is that zookeeper python modules are C extensions. So you have to e

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra][Cinder] Coraid CI system

2014-09-05 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hi Mykola, On 09/05/2014 04:09 PM, Mykola Grygoriev wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Mykola Grygoriev and I'm engineer who currently working on > deploying 3d party CI for Сoraid Сinder driver. Great, thanks! > Following instructions on > > http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#requesting-a-servi

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-05 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/05/2014 04:21 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 09/05/2014 06:32 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> While reviewing this zookeeper service group fix in Nova - >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102639/ it was exposed that the >> zookeeper tests aren't running in infra. >> >> The crux of the issue is that z

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