Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux bridge + vxlan

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Wells
Path MTU discovery works on a path - something with an L3 router in the way - where the outbound interface has a smaller MTU than the inbound one. You're transmitting across an L2 network - no L3 routers present. You send a 1500 byte packet, the network fabric (which is not L3, has no address,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux bridge + vxlan

2014-10-28 Thread Li Tianqing
The problem is that it is not at the begining to transmit large file. It is after some packets trasmited, then the connection is choked. After the connection choked, from the bridge in compute host we can see the sender send packets, and the receiver can not get the packets. If it is the pmtud,

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] About deployment progress calculation

2014-10-28 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
Hello everyone, I want to raise concerns about progress bar, and its usability. In my opinion current approach has several downsides: 1. No valuable information 2. Very fragile, you need to change code in several places not to break it 3. Will not work with plugable code Log parsing works under

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux bridge + vxlan

2014-10-28 Thread Li Tianqing
lan, you are right, the receiver only receive packet that small than 1450. Because the sender does not send large packets at the begining, so tcpdump can catch some small packets. Another question about the mtu, what if we clear the DF in the ip packets? Then l2 can split packets into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence prototyping

2014-10-28 Thread Anant Patil
On 23-Oct-14 23:40, Zane Bitter wrote: Hi folks, I've been looking at the convergence stuff, and become a bit concerned that we're more or less flying blind (or at least I have been) in trying to figure out the design, and also that some of the first implementation efforts seem to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Wells
This all appears to be referring to trunking ports, rather than anything else, so I've addressed the points in that respect. On 28 October 2014 00:03, A, Keshava keshav...@hp.com wrote: Hi, 1. How many Trunk ports can be created ? Why would there be a limit? Will there be any

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread A, Keshava
Hi, Current Open-stack was built as flat network. With the introduction of the L3 lookup (by inserting the routing table in forwarding path) and separate 'VIF Route Type' interface: At what point of time in the packet processing decision will be made to lookup FIB during ? For each packet

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux bridge + vxlan

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Wells
On 28 October 2014 00:18, A, Keshava keshav...@hp.com wrote: Hi, Currently OpenStack have any framework to notify the Tennant/Service-VM for such kind of notification based on VM’s interest ? It's possible to use DHCP or RA to notify a VM of the MTU but there are limitations (RAs don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Fuel standards

2014-10-28 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
Let's do the same for Fuel. Frankly, I'd say we could take OpenStack standards as is and use them for Fuel. But maybe there are other opinions. Let's discuss this and decide what to do. Do we actually need those standards at all? Agree that we can take openstack standarts as example, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-10-28 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi wei, the agent will be re-worked with modular l2 agent [1] your proposal could be handle during this work. [1]https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106189/ Mathieu On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Damon Wang damon.dev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, We have suffered a long down time when we

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][ceilometer]: scale up/ down based on number of instances in a group

2014-10-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Daniel Comnea comnea.d...@gmail.com wrote on 10/27/2014 07:16:32 AM: Yes i did but if you look at this example https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml the flow is simple: CPU alarm in Ceilometer triggers the type: OS::Heat::ScalingPolicy which

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux bridge + vxlan

2014-10-28 Thread Li Tianqing
One more question. Vxlan use udp, how can vxlan promise reliability. 在 2014-10-28 15:51:02,Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk 写道: On 28 October 2014 00:30, Li Tianqing jaze...@163.com wrote: lan, you are right, the receiver only receive packet that small than 1450. Because the sender does not

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux bridge + vxlan

2014-10-28 Thread A, Keshava
Hi, Pl find my reply . Regards, keshava From: Ian Wells [mailto:ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:19 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-28 Thread A, Keshava
Hi, Pl fine the reply for the same. Regards, keshava From: Ian Wells [mailto:ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:11 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints This all

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vm can not transport large file under neutron ml2 + linux bridge + vxlan

2014-10-28 Thread Cory Benfield
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 08:32:11, Li Tianqing wrote: One more question. Vxlan use udp, how can vxlan promise reliability. It can't, but that doesn't matter. VXLAN emulates a single layer 2 broadcast domain: conceptually, a series of machines all plugged into the same Ethernet switch. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 03:22:36PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: So this should work and I think its generally good. But - I'm curious, you only need a single image for devtest to experiment with tuskar - the seed - which should be about the same speed (or faster, if you have hot caches) than

[openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI

2014-10-28 Thread Andreas Scheuring
Hi, we're preparing to add a new platform, libvirt-kvm on system z (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-kvm-systemz), to the HypervisorSupportMatrix https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix . This matrix also lists a number of networking features (e.g. vlan

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-28 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Hi Please find some additions to Ian and responses below. /Alan From: A, Keshava [mailto:keshav...@hp.com] Sent: October-28-14 9:57 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints Hi, Pl fine the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
On 28 October 2014 22:51, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 03:22:36PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: So this should work and I think its generally good. But - I'm curious, you only need a single image for devtest to experiment with tuskar - the seed - which should

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-28 Thread A, Keshava
Hi, Pl find my reply .. Regards, keshava From: Alan Kavanagh [mailto:alan.kavan...@ericsson.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:35 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints Hi Please

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-10-28 Thread Lisa
Dear Sylvain, as you suggested me few weeks ago, I created the blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/fair-share-lease) and I'd like to start a discussion. I will be in Paris the next week at the OpenStack Summit, so it would be nice to talk with you and the BLAZAR team

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 28 October 2014 22:51, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 03:22:36PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: So this should work and I think its generally good. But - I'm curious, you only need a single

[openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Sean Dague
We're dealing with some issues on devstack pass through with really complicated config option types, the fixes are breaking other things. The issue at hand is the fact that the pci pass through device listing is an olso MultiStrOpt in which each option value is fully valid json document, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-28 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Keshava, I think the thread is not going a bit off its stated topic - which is to discuss the various proposed approaches to vlan trunking. Regarding your last post, I'm not sure I saw either spec implying that at the data plane level every instance attached to a trunk will be implemented as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 07:34:11AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: We're dealing with some issues on devstack pass through with really complicated config option types, the fixes are breaking other things. The issue at hand is the fact that the pci pass through device listing is an olso MultiStrOpt

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/28/2014 07:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 07:34:11AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: We're dealing with some issues on devstack pass through with really complicated config option types, the fixes are breaking other things. The issue at hand is the fact that the pci

[openstack-dev] [all] using released versions of python clients in tests

2014-10-28 Thread Sean Dague
At the beginning of the month we moved through a set of patches for oslo libs that decoupled them from the integrated gate by testing server projects with released versions of oslo libraries. The way it works is that in the base devstack case all the oslo libraries are pulled from pypi instead of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 08:07:14AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/28/2014 07:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 07:34:11AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: We're dealing with some issues on devstack pass through with really complicated config option types, the fixes are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Sean, Are you talking about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128805/? is it still breaking something after fixing the incompatible awk syntax? Originally https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123599/ proposed a simple patch to support that config. But it was abandoned in favor of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-10-28 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Damon Wang damon.dev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, We have suffered a long down time when we upgrade our public cloud's neutron into the latest version (close to Juno RC2), for ovs-agent cleaned all flows in br-tun when it start. This is likely due to this bug

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/28/2014 08:31 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 08:07:14AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/28/2014 07:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 07:34:11AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: We're dealing with some issues on devstack pass through with really

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-28 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Hi Salvatore Inline below. From: Salvatore Orlando [mailto:sorla...@nicira.com] Sent: October-28-14 12:37 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints Keshava, I think the thread is not going

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI

2014-10-28 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Andreas Scheuring scheu...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Hi, we're preparing to add a new platform, libvirt-kvm on system z (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-kvm-systemz), to the HypervisorSupportMatrix

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] using released versions of python clients in tests

2014-10-28 Thread Kuvaja, Erno
Sean, Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this needs to happen on RCs not on CI tests. Couple of possible problems I personally see with this approach: 1) Extensive pressure to push new client releases (perhaps the released client is not as good as intended for just to provide someone

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi, really interesting, thanks corry. during l3 meeting we spoke about planning a POD session around bgp use cases. at least 2 spec have bgp use cases : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125401/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93329/ It would be interesting that you join this POD, to share your

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Dan Smith
If we really need that level of arbitrary complexity and future name values we should then just: pci_passthrough_cfg = /etc/nova/pci_pass.yaml I hate to have to introduce a new thing like that, but I also think that JSON-encoded config variable strings are a nightmare. They lead to bugs like

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: We're dealing with some issues on devstack pass through with really complicated config option types, the fixes are breaking other things. The issue at hand is the fact that the pci pass through device listing is an olso

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI

2014-10-28 Thread Dan Smith
Are current nova CI platforms configured with nova-networking or with neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a part of the nova CI approach? I think we have several that only run on Neutron, so I think it's fine to just do that. --Dan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] using released versions of python clients in tests

2014-10-28 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/28/2014 09:36 AM, Kuvaja, Erno wrote: Sean, Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this needs to happen on RCs not on CI tests. Couple of possible problems I personally see with this approach: 1) Extensive pressure to push new client releases (perhaps the released client is

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 28 October 2014 22:51, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 03:22:36PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: snip 3. Log onto seed VM to debug the issue. Discover there are no logs. We should fix that - is

[openstack-dev] [nova] How to connect to a serial port of an instance via websocket?

2014-10-28 Thread Markus Zoeller
The API provides an endpoint for querying the serial console of an instance ('os-getSerialConsole'). The nova-client interacts with this API endpoint via the command `get-serial-console`. nova get-serial-console myInstance It returns a string like:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/28/2014 07:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: One option would be a more CSV like syntax eg pci_passthrough_whitelist = address=*0a:00.*,physical_network=physnet1 pci_passthrough_whitelist = vendor_id=1137,product_id=0071 But this gets confusing if we want to specifying multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Dan Genin
Duncan, I don't think it's possible to have multiple volume groups using the same physical volume[1]. In fact, counter-intuitively (at least to me) the nesting actually goes the other way with multiple physical volumes comprising a single volume group. The LVM naming scheme actually makes more

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Brent Eagles
Hi, On 28/10/2014 10:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/28/2014 08:31 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: snip I don't think that is really very extensible for the future to drop the key name. We've already extended the info we record here at least once, and I expect we'd want to add more fields

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-28 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:18:37AM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/28/2014 07:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: One option would be a more CSV like syntax eg pci_passthrough_whitelist = address=*0a:00.*,physical_network=physnet1 pci_passthrough_whitelist =

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V Meeting

2014-10-28 Thread Peter Pouliot
Due to last minute preparation for the summit I'll be cancelling the meeting for this week. We'll resume activity post summit. p Peter J. Pouliot CISSP Sr. SDET OpenStack Microsoft New England Research Development Center 1 Memorial Drive Cambridge, MA 02142 P: 1.(857).4536436 E:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Kilo Mid-Cycle Meetup Planning

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Jones
Hi On 9 October 2014 23:56, James Polley j...@jamezpolley.com wrote: Assuming it's in the US or Europe, Mon-Fri gives me about 3 useful days, once you take out the time I lose to jet lag. That's barely worth the 48 hours or so I spent in transit last time. It may well be

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Dan Genin daniel.ge...@jhuapl.edu wrote: So this brings us back to the original proposal of having separate backing files for Cinder and Nova which Dean thought might take too much space. Between Cinder, Nova and Swift (and Ceph, etc) everybody wants some

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel-library merge policy and Fuel CI

2014-10-28 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Hi everyone, with recent disruption in our CI process I'd like to discuss again the issues in our merge workflow. See the summary at the end. As a starting point, here is the list of patches which were merged into fuel-library repository without Verified +1 label from Fuel CI:

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Jay Dobies
5. API: You can't create or modify roles via the API, or even view the content of the role after creating it None of that is in place yet, mostly due to time. The tuskar-load-roles was a short-term solution to getting a base set of roles in. Conceptually you're on target with I want to see in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-28 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Thanks for the reply Angus, DDoS attacks are definitely a concern we are trying to address here. My assumptions are based on a solution that is engineered for this type of thing. Are you more concerned with network I/O during a DoS attack or storing the logs? Under the idea I had, I wanted to

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Duncan Thomas
Hi Dan You're quite right, the nesting isn't as I thought it was, sorry to mislead you. It isn't a show stopper, it just makes testing some proposed useful functionality slightly harder. If nova were to namespace its volumes (e.g. start all the volume names with nova-*) then that would allow the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Cory Benfield
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 07:44:48, A, Keshava wrote: Hi, Current Open-stack was built as flat network. With the introduction of the L3 lookup (by inserting the routing table in forwarding path) and separate 'VIF Route Type' interface: At what point of time in the packet processing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel-library merge policy and Fuel CI

2014-10-28 Thread Vitaly Kramskikh
Aleksandra, As you may know, there is a randomly failing nailgun unit test in fuel-web repo, which fails for the major part of review requests. It's been happening for a few days. But I need to merge some stuff and cannot wait for the fix of this well known issue. So for every request with -1

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread A, Keshava
Hi Cory, Yes that is the basic question I have. OpenStack cloud is ready to move away from Flat L2 network ? 1. Every packet L3 FIB Lookup : Radix Tree Search, instead of current L2 Hash/Index Lookup ? 2. Will there be Hierarchical network ? How much of the Routes will be imported

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][ceilometer]: scale up/ down based on number of instances in a group

2014-10-28 Thread Daniel Comnea
Thanks all for reply. I have spoke with Qiming and @Shardy (IRC nickname) and they confirmed this is not possible as of today. Someone else - sorry i forgot his nicname on IRC suggested to write a Ceilometer query to count the number of instances but what @ZhiQiang said is true and this is what

[openstack-dev] [heat] Changing default replacement_policy for Neutron port?

2014-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, So I've been investigating bug #1383709, which has caused me to run into a bad update pattern involving OS::Neutron::Port http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::Port I'm not quite clear on the history, but for some reason, we have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Dan Genin
On 10/28/2014 11:56 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Dan Genin daniel.ge...@jhuapl.edu mailto:daniel.ge...@jhuapl.edu wrote: So this brings us back to the original proposal of having separate backing files for Cinder and Nova which Dean thought might take too

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Dan Genin
On 10/28/2014 12:47 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: Hi Dan You're quite right, the nesting isn't as I thought it was, sorry to mislead you. It isn't a show stopper, it just makes testing some proposed useful functionality slightly harder. If nova were to namespace its volumes (e.g. start all the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-28 Thread Armando M.
Sorry for jumping into this thread late...there's lots of details to process, and I needed time to digest! Having said that, I'd like to recap before moving the discussion forward, at the Summit and beyond. As it's being pointed out, there are a few efforts targeting this area; I think that is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI

2014-10-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: Are current nova CI platforms configured with nova-networking or with neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a part of the nova CI approach? I think we have several that only run on Neutron, so I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Duncan Thomas
Cinder volumes are always (unless you go change the default) in the form: volume-uuid, and since the string 'volume-' is never a valid uuid, then I think we can work around nova volumes fine when we come to write our tests. Sorry for the repeated circling on this, but I think I'm now happy.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Ben Nemec
On 10/28/2014 06:18 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 28 October 2014 22:51, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 03:22:36PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: So this should work and I think its generally good. But

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel-library merge policy and Fuel CI

2014-10-28 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Vitaly, though comments like this are definitely better than nothing, I think we should address these issues in a more formal way. For random failures we have to retrigger the build until it passes. Yes, it could take some time (two-three rebuilds?), but it is the only reliable way which shows

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Pod time at Paris Summit

2014-10-28 Thread Collins, Sean
Hi, Like Atlanta, I will be at the summit. If there is interest, I can schedule a time to talk about the QoS API extension. -- Sean M. Collins ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How to connect to a serial port of an instance via websocket?

2014-10-28 Thread Solly Ross
You should be able to connect like a normal WebSocket, assuming you're running the serial console websocketproxy (it's a different command from the VNC web socket proxy). If you want, you can ping on IRC and I can help you debug your JS code. Best Regards, Solly Ross (directxman12 on freenode

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-10-28 11:13:22 -0700: On 10/28/2014 06:18 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 28 October 2014 22:51, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 03:22:36PM +1300, Robert

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 28 October 2014 18:01, Dan Genin daniel.ge...@jhuapl.edu wrote: Changing Nova disk names is a lng shot. It's likely I will be doing something else by the time that gets merged:) So we are left with the two options of 1) using a shared volume group and, thus, complicating life for

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread Dan Genin
Great, thank you, Duncan. I will then proceed with the shared volume group. Dan On 10/28/2014 02:06 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: Cinder volumes are always (unless you go change the default) in the form: volume-uuid, and since the string 'volume-' is never a valid uuid, then I think we can work

[openstack-dev] [Keystone][Barbican] Removing custom openssl calls with certmonger

2014-10-28 Thread Adam Young
In certmonger 0.75.13 you can use local-getcert and it will have a signing cert (selfsigned CA cert). This allows us to replace the keystone-manage ssl_swetup and pki_setup with certmonger calls. This should be the plan moving forward, with Certmonger/Barbican integration a short term

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Enable LVM ephemeral storage for Nova

2014-10-28 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Dan Genin daniel.ge...@jhuapl.edu wrote: Great, thank you, Duncan. I will then proceed with the shared volume group. Dan On 10/28/2014 02:06 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: Cinder volumes are always (unless you go change the default) in the form: volume-uuid,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Fox, Kevin M
From: Clint Byrum [cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:34 AM To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack *SNIP* I think we should actually just rip the git repos out of the images in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Fuel standards

2014-10-28 Thread Meg McRoberts
Could we specify that all Fuel configuration files should include all allowable parameters. The optional parameters can be commented out but being able to uncomment and populate a parameter is a lot easier than having to find the exact name and order. For bonus points, we could include

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-28 Thread Ben Nemec
On 10/28/2014 01:34 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-10-28 11:13:22 -0700: On 10/28/2014 06:18 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:08:05PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 28 October 2014 22:51, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Kevin Benton
1. Every packet L3 FIB Lookup : Radix Tree Search, instead of current L2 Hash/Index Lookup ? 2. Will there be Hierarchical network ? How much of the Routes will be imported from external world ? 3. Will there be Separate routing domain for overlay network ? Or it will be mixed with

[openstack-dev] [all] Bringing some DevOps love to Openstack

2014-10-28 Thread Philip Cheong
Hi all, In preparation of the OpenStack Summit in Paris next week, I'm hoping to speak to some people in the OpenStack foundation about the benefits of a partnership with Hashicorp, who make fantastic tools like Vagrant and Packer (and others). As a n00b aspiring to become an OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][nova] Changing default replacement_policy for Neutron port?

2014-10-28 Thread Steve Baker
On 29/10/14 06:51, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So I've been investigating bug #1383709, which has caused me to run into a bad update pattern involving OS::Neutron::Port http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::Port I'm not quite clear on the history,

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][nova] Changing default replacement_policy for Neutron port?

2014-10-28 Thread Steve Baker
On 29/10/14 09:28, Steve Baker wrote: On 29/10/14 06:51, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So I've been investigating bug #1383709, which has caused me to run into a bad update pattern involving OS::Neutron::Port

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Rohit Agarwalla (roagarwa)
There isn't a mechanism for us to get a BoF scheduled in advance. So, let's gather at the Neutron contributors meetup on Friday. Hopefully, some of us would have already met each other at the Neutron design sessions before Friday and we can figure out a good time slot that works for everyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Rohit Agarwalla (roagarwa)
Agreed. The way I'm thinking about this is that tenants shouldn't care what the underlying implementation is - L2 or L3. As long as the connectivity requirements are met using the model/API, end users should be fine. The data center network design should be an administrators decision based on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Summit] proposed item for the crossproject and/ or Nova meetings in the Design summit

2014-10-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/23/2014 07:57 PM, Elzur, Uri wrote: We’d like to bring it up in the coming design summit. Where do you think it needs to be discussed: cross project tack? Scheduler discussion? Other? I’ve just added a proposed item 17.1 to the

[openstack-dev] [All] Finalizing cross-project design summit track

2014-10-28 Thread Russell Bryant
A draft schedule has been posted for the cross-project design summit track: http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/cross-project+workshops#.VFAFFXVGjUa If you have any schedule changes to propose for really bad conflicts, please let me know. We really tried to minimize conflicts, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: I think the simplest use case is just that a provider doesn't want to deal with extending L2 domains all over their datacenter. This is similar to a goal behind [1] and [2]. I'm trying to figure out where the commonalities

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Rohit Agarwalla (roagarwa) roaga...@cisco.com wrote: Agreed. The way I'm thinking about this is that tenants shouldn't care what the underlying implementation is - L2 or L3. As long as the connectivity requirements are met using the model/API, end users should

[openstack-dev] [sahara] client release 0.7.5

2014-10-28 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, we have sahara client 0.7.5 released today with following changes: * AZ support for Nova and Cinder * Volume type support for Cinder More info: https://launchpad.net/python-saharaclient/0.7.x/0.7.5 We need this changes to update Horizon and Heat Sahara bindings. Thanks. --

[openstack-dev] [tuskar] Puppet module

2014-10-28 Thread Emilien Macchi
Hi, I was looking at deploying Tuskar API with Puppet and I was wondering if you guys have already worked on a Puppet module. If not, I think we could start something in stackforge like we already did for other OpenStack components. Thanks, -- Emilien Macchi signature.asc Description:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Cory Benfield's message of 2014-10-24 06:38:44 -0700: All, Project Calico [1] is an open source approach to virtual networking based on L3 routing as opposed to L2 bridging. In order to accommodate this approach within OpenStack, we've just submitted 3 blueprints that cover

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance]

2014-10-28 Thread Jesse Cook
On 10/27/14, 6:08 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/27/2014 06:18 PM, Jesse Cook wrote: In the glance mini-summit there was a request for some documentation on the architecture ideas I was discussing relating to: 1) removing data consistency as a concern for glance 2)

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:07:03 PM Rohit Agarwalla wrote: Agreed. The way I'm thinking about this is that tenants shouldn't care what the underlying implementation is - L2 or L3. As long as the connectivity requirements are met using the model/API, end users should be fine. The data center

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Fred Baker (fred)
On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Angus Lees g...@inodes.org wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:07:03 PM Rohit Agarwalla wrote: Agreed. The way I'm thinking about this is that tenants shouldn't care what the underlying implementation is - L2 or L3. As long as the connectivity requirements are met

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-28 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 04:42:27 PM Jorge Miramontes wrote: Thanks for the reply Angus, DDoS attacks are definitely a concern we are trying to address here. My assumptions are based on a solution that is engineered for this type of thing. Are you more concerned with network I/O during a DoS

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] add a common cache mechanism for block device storage

2014-10-28 Thread yoo bright
Dear all, We proposed a new blueprint (at https://review.openstack.org/128814) for adding a common cache mechanism for block device storage. All requirements, suggestions and comments are welcome. Thank you! ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Harshad Nakil
L3 routed network can support 1. broadcast/multicast 2. VRRP virtual MAC like technology For example OpenContrail does support both of these in fully L3 routed networks. Regards -Harshad On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Angus Lees g...@inodes.org wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:07:03 PM Rohit

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance]

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Collins
On 29 October 2014 11:18, Jesse Cook jesse.c...@rackspace.com wrote: At the risk of having something thrown at me, what I am suggesting is a move away from Glance as a service to Glance as a purely functional API. At some point caching would need to be discussed, but I am intentionally

Re: [openstack-dev] [bashate] towards inbox zero on bashate changes, release?

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Wienand
On 10/14/2014 04:03 PM, Ian Wienand wrote: Maybe it is time for a release? One thing; does the pre-release check run over TOT devstack and ensure there are no errors? We don't want to release and then 10 minutes later gate jobs start failing. Just to loop back on this ... Our main goal here

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Finalizing cross-project design summit track

2014-10-28 Thread joehuang
Hello, Russell, Is the cascading included in the session Approaches for scaling out [1] ? From the selected topics listed in [2], the selected topic is plans for scaling out OpenStack using cells * Session Lead: John Garbutt * Session Description: But according

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:21:10 AM Fred Baker wrote: On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Angus Lees g...@inodes.org wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:07:03 PM Rohit Agarwalla wrote: Agreed. The way I'm thinking about this is that tenants shouldn't care what the underlying implementation is - L2 or L3.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Clear all flows when ovs agent start?why and how avoid?

2014-10-28 Thread Zebra
Hi, Kyle This is likely due to this bug [1] which was fixed in Juno. On agent restart, all flows are reprogrammed. We do this to ensure that everything is reprogrammed correctly and no stale flows are left. If the neutron-openvswitch-agent restarts , the exist flows should not be

[openstack-dev] [api] API WG Meeting

2014-10-28 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi, The patch setting the time for the API Working Group meeting has merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128332/ The time for the meeting is Thursday UTC In other timezones the meeting is at: EST 20:00 (Wed) Japan 09:00 (Thu) China 08:00 (Thu) ACDT 10:30 (Thu) The meeting details

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Add scheduler-hints when migration/rebuild/evacuate

2014-10-28 Thread Alex Xu
Hi, Currently migration/rebuild/evacuate didn't support pass scheduler-hints, that means any migration can't use schedule-hints that passed when creating instance. Can we add scheduler-hints support when migration/rebuild/evacuate? That also can enable user move in/out instance to/from an

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