RE: Enterprise Manger

2001-05-11 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Hi Bambi,

To find out what version of OEM you installed you could open up a NT command
prompt and type oemctrl status oms and then cancel out of the box that
comes up asking for the OMS login.

This works for OEM 2.1 and OEM 2.2, not sure if it works for 2.0.4 and
below.
2.1 came with 8.1.6
2.2 came with 8.1.7
2.0.4 is installed into its own home.

HTH,
Bruce Reardon
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Ruth --

I think it's v2.1, but it's hard to tell since there's no About.

HTH,
Bambi.
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Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 05:41:14 -0800


 What is the version of OEM?  Ruth
 - Original Message -
 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:17 PM
 
 
  Greetings, Fellow OraHax!  Long time no see.  I've been off doing
 interesting things for awhile and have been pretty quiet.  I've got a
 problem and I'm pretty embarrassed by it.  Let me write embedded SQL/Korn
 shell or do funky DBA things all day but don't make me use a GUI!  But,
 well, we do what we have to.
 
  Anyway, I have Enterprise Manager running on a remote NT box.  I have
 created a repository owner (entmgr) and made sure that the service is
 running.  If I try going into enterprise manager with just the SID, I get
 VTK-1000.  If I try to log in specifying the machine name (which I tried
on
 a lark... it doesn't make sense to me to specify the machine name), I get
 invalid login credential supplied.
 
  aTdHvAaNnKcSe!
  Bambi.
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Re: comp.oracle.databases.server vs ORACLE-L: deathmatch

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Drake

Eric D. Pierce wrote:

 As far as the Culture of any Oracle-NT-L, I can see the possible
 advantage of having some weighty expert personalities involved. The
 culture, and therefore utility, of an email list community is
 almost always enhanced when the list is created with a good core
 group of people that can provide a sense of leadership, purpose and
 vision.
 
 regards,
 ep
 

uh oh.
You want leadership, purpose and vision from users of Microsoft
products?
I think that I'll humbly retract the entire idea now.
sorry.

back to wishing that my db's were running on *nix.

btw, LETS GO PENS!!!

Paul
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Re: Oracle 9i Articles - self tuning, launch delayed to

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Drake

Eric D. Pierce wrote:

   Summary
 
Self-tuning, self-managing Oracle9i monitors your system
to provide high availability, reliability and minimized
downtime. Whether you are a hosting service, in-house
data center, or IT organization, you can rely on Oracle9i
and its system management products to provide optimal
quality of service to all users. 
 

Eric,

I believe that I see the emergence of new BOFH excuse of the day
material:

(I will quote from a former life - Chemical Process Control - An
Introduction to Theory and Practice.
I knew that someday, Laplace Transforms would be somehow useful. Hello
again, imaginary numbers.)

Windup-error

Here the tuning interval was so large, that the disturbances
experienced recently are so diluted by the non-peak time intervals that
the ability to discern problems is like trying to find a bomb the size
of a lipstick container in all of the purses in a New York commute
morning.
analogy - cache hit ratios when correlated subqueries are reusing
cursors/code billions of times.
concepts - autoextending datafiles that cannot reuse extents - purely
capacitive process.

Dead time

Well, if init.ora parameters are only changed when the instance is
terminated,
uptime = dead time, in a self-tuning paradigm.
analogy #1 - unplugging the leads to the controller mechanism.
analogy #2 - disconnecting the phone, power off the cell phone, close
the email client.

Phase Lag

an offset between the input and output signals.
analogy - a dog chasing his/her tail - but never quite catching it.
  In further detail, the distance between the dog snout and tip of the
tail, divided by the circumference of the perimeter of the (outer)
circling dog fur (in radians).
M ... pie.

Crossover Frequency

This has nothing to do with bisexuals.
It has to do with system stability once the control loop is closed.
If the gain margin at the crossover frequency is too large, the system
will be unstable.
In this case, the operating system and DBA will be blamed.
Open loop tuning = advice
Closed loop tuning = implemented advice, now put to the test.
Consultants have long since left. Run.
We don't actually implement solutions, we just recommend them.

Amplitude Ratio

This has to do with a self-tuning mechanism, and rival tuning goals of
server and user processes competing for resources (e.g. memory). A
critically dampened tuning algorithm will overshoot the optimal target
by 17% and converge on the ideal solution without a sinousoidal response
signal. Most others will oscillate in a perpertual fashion.
Unfortunately, a 17% overestimation in available memory will cause the
paging daemon to chime in, causing the DBA and SysAdmin to disable the
auto-tuning in favor of going with what has worked for the past nn
years. The Bhopal disaster (MIC) was caused when field personnel
disabled 3 layers of control systems and additional safety systems. You
can't optimize globally and tune locally. Maybe the holistic method has
a point.

Acronyms

P   Proportional Control
PI  Proportional Integral Control
PD  Proportional Derivative Control
PID Proportional Integral Derivative Control

Bode stability criterion

we'll save that for the advanced session. Tune in tomorrow.

Paul
used to be a Chem Engr.
Database Blowups are far better than Chemical Process Industry plant
blowups.
AFAIK, no one has died from a database crash.
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Re: Data Reporting tools

2001-05-11 Thread David A. Barbour

Dick,

Go with Discoverer.  As the admin, you can build a subset of the data
and push it out to the power users with the data labeled any way you
like.  You can also give you power users the ability to create their own
views if you are so inclined.  They accomplish this through the GUI,
with no 'direct' access to the database (of course they do, you need to
set up their permissions etc., but you can lock it down pretty tight and
what they're really creating is data about data which you can excise
without harm to your DB at any time).  Training is a snap, the interface
is familiar and fairly intuitive, particularly for those with
Access/Excel skills and experience.  I used Discoverer for our
Engineering teams to access Remedy (ugh!) data.  Crystal Reports was the
'preferred' solution by the vendor, who wanted to send 20+ people to
user training for a week to get them up to speed.  The Discoverer
solution was much simpler and more cost-effective for all involved. 
They were quite proud of their ability to create ad-hoc reports, and
very lavish with their praise of the 'support' they were getting from
the DBA!

Regards,

David A. Barbour

Ruiz, Mary A (CAP, CDI) wrote:
 
 Hi Dick:
   I have a similar project on my plate.  I like Business Objects.  Actually, we do 
not want users to have to know table/column names and need a product where we can 
build a data
 repository.  I am not sure if we need a complete end-to-end solution as many BI 
companies seem ready to provide.  Other vendors on our short list are - Oracle 
(Discoverer), Cognos,
 Brio, Informatica (not sure if we need it) and Sagent (has a nice ETL product).
 
 Mary Ruiz /Atlanta
 
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 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:11 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 To ALL,
 
 I've been given a project to find a way to make data easily available to end
 users, preferably via a thin client (read that as browser based).  We're looking
 at Discoverer 3000 and 9iAS, but the boss wants to know what other options are
 out there.  The general idea would be to have a client/server based tool that we
 could deploy to the power users (of which we have only a few).  These
 individuals are NOT programmers nor in the IS group, but they know the data.  We
 want them to create the queries/reports (with graphics included which the
 Discoverer viewer does not do) and then publish them via the database.  This is
 a lot of what Discoverer does, but are there other tools out there that do the
 same?  Any recommendations???
 
 Dick Goulet
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 Vicor Corporation
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PL/SQL-procedures

2001-05-11 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

How can I write procedure which runs 3 different subprocedures.?

Roland Sköldblom

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Re: What columns are in the Primary Key

2001-05-11 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz

select * from user_cons_columns
 where constraint_name=(select constraint_name
 from user_constraints where table_name = '1' and constraint_type='P');

  .. Bunyamin ..

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 Hi!

 Is there a data dictionary view that gives me all the columns in a primary
 key of a table?

 I can query user_constraints to find out about all constraints on a table:

 select * from user_constraints where table_name='TBACCOUNTS'


 OWNER  CONSTRAINT_NAME C TABLE_NAME   SEARCH_CONDITION
 -- --- -  -
 VIVOUSER   SYS_C003011 C TBACCOUNTS   COMPANYID IS NOT NULL
 VIVOUSER   SYS_C003012 C TBACCOUNTS   STORELOCID IS NOT NULL
 VIVOUSER   SYS_C003013 C TBACCOUNTS   ACCOUNTID IS NOT NULL
 VIVOUSER   PK_ACCOUNTS P TBACCOUNTS

 How can I get what columns are in the primary key PK_ACCOUNTS ? I have
 more NOT NULL columns in the table than in the PK.

 Any idea?

 This is 8.1.6 on Win2k.

 Thanks,
 Helmut

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Re: ORA-06553: PLS-707: unsupported construct or internal error [2603]

2001-05-11 Thread zabair ahmed

Thanks to those who replied, the LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set in the profile for 
oracle, unsetting this did the trick.

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RE: Pl/sql loop assistance

2001-05-11 Thread Steve Adams

Hi Jacques,

It is not reliable if there is row migration.

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 -Original Message-
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 I'll have to disagree with not using commit within a loop.

 If you identify what a transaction is within your code, and
 write it accordingly, using commit where appropriate, you
 will not get ORA-1002 or ORA-1555, at least not due
 to your own code.

This reminds me, Mr. Still, you posted an example once to the list about doing a
fetch in rowid order to avoid revisiting the same block when doing a full table
scan of a table, so that reading and updating every row in a table would avoid
the dreaded snapshot too old. I told a developer about that today and showed
him a code sample, but he says he still had a snapshot too old. Would it be
possible for you to post that snippet of code again?
Jacques R. Kilchoër
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desc SQL*PLUS

2001-05-11 Thread Sajid Iqbal

Hello DBA's

I have recently upgraded from 8.1.6.0 to 8.1.6.3.

I seem to be having a weird problem in sql*plus, in that whenever I do a
describe on a table it comes up with the following error :-

SQL desc emp;
ERROR:
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel

I can run select statements without any problems !


TIA

Sajid Iqbal






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Ora - 4091 error while trying to insert a record into a table

2001-05-11 Thread Ranganath K

Dear DBA Gurus,

I have Table A and Table B whose structures are almost similar except Table
B has a date-time field column.  Whenever I insert a new record into Table A
I want to insert the same record into the Table B along with the date-time
stamp at which the new record is inserted into Table A.  For achieving this
I wrote an after insert trigger on Table A for each row.  The trigger got
created successfully.  But whenever I try to insert a new record into Table
A I get the Ora - 4091, mutating table error.  How do I achieve this without
any errors?  Any workarounds?

Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.

TIA and Warm Regards,

Ranganath


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Arkeia Backup software

2001-05-11 Thread Mark Teehan

Does anyone use this? It looks funky and I am interested in any opinions
before I try it out. Im trying to get out of the Legato/Veritas vicious
circle of Very Expensive and only Moderately Useful backup software.
http://www.arkeia.com

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Re: Updating a table :Using dynamically generated table_Names

2001-05-11 Thread paquette stephane

Use dynamic SQL, it is so simple now that there is
execute immediate instead of prepare, execute,
bind,...

--- Vikas Kawatra [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
 can someone tell me a way to select all tables from
 multiple schemas -
 and then update records in each of these tables
 based on a certain criterea.
 I wrote a script below - which explains logically
 what I need to do - but I
 don't think I can use a cursor output in the UPDATE
 as I have below.
 Suggestions ?
 
 thanks
 vikas
 
 DECLARE
 
 CURSOR cuTab IS
 SELECT table_name,column_name
   FROM dba_tab_columns
   WHERE column_name ='END_DATE'
   AND owner='CIS';
 
 recCuTab cuTab%ROWTYPE;
 
 BEGIN
 
 FOR recCuTab IN cuTab LOOP
 
 
 
   UPDATE recCuTab.table_name --Get an error here !!
   SET end_date =  TO_DATE('4712-12-31','-MM-DD')
   WHERE end_date 
 TO_DATE('12-31-4712','mm-dd-')
AND end_date 
 TO_DATE('1-1-4712','mm-dd-');
 
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Oracle9i block structures

2001-05-11 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hi,

Do you know if Oracle9i block structures are modified ?

thanks in advance...

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Re: Oracle9i block structures

2001-05-11 Thread paquette stephane

I only know that you can have multiple blocksize in a
DB.
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RE: COLLECTION ITERATOR PICKLER FETCH

2001-05-11 Thread Steve Adams

Hi Scott,

Pickling is serializing arbitrary object-oriented data structures. That is,
converting them into a byte stream for storage, transmission over a network or
iterative navigation as in this case. It is a more complex process than you
might imagine. If you want more information, search the web for information on
Python's pickle module.

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Sometimes I really love the developers at Oracle..  This should be good
fodder for Eric P.

Does anyone have experience with infamous pickler Fetch which shows up in
this explain plan the select is on index organized nested tables (Nested
objects)?  It's obvious that someone in internals has a good sense of humor.
I guess this is the way Oracle dereferences the embedded collections?
  SELECT STATEMENT

SORT GROUP BY

  NESTED LOOPS

NESTED LOOPS

  NESTED LOOPS

NESTED LOOPS
`   BLAH BLAH BLAH

   COLLECTION ITERATOR PICKLER FETCH

  VIEW  AD_AGG_DATA_MASTER

UNION-ALL PARTITION

  FILTER

TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID AD_23

  INDEX RANGE SCAN AD_23_IDX_1

  FILTER

TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID AD_24

  INDEX RANGE SCAN AD_24_IDX_1

  FILTER

TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID AD_25

  INDEX RANGE SCAN AD_25_IDX_1



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RE: Ora - 4091 error while trying to insert a record into a table - RESOLVED

2001-05-11 Thread Ranganath K

Hi Gurus,

I got the solution.  Here is the modified code:

create or replace trigger trig_dept1 after insert on dept for each row
  begin
insert into dept1(deptno, dname, loc, date_time) values(:new.deptno,
:new.dname,
:new.loc, sysdate);
  end;

Thanks Rob Fegan and Amol Joshi for correcting me.

Regards,

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Dear DBA Gurus,

I have Table A and Table B whose structures are almost similar except Table
B has a date-time field column.  Whenever I insert a new record into Table A
I want to insert the same record into the Table B along with the date-time
stamp at which the new record is inserted into Table A.  For achieving this
I wrote an after insert trigger on Table A for each row.  The trigger got
created successfully.  But whenever I try to insert a new record into Table
A I get the Ora - 4091, mutating table error.  How do I achieve this without
any errors?  Any workarounds?

Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.

TIA and Warm Regards,

Ranganath


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RE: RMAN Question

2001-05-11 Thread holders

Are the tables you are loading in direct mode in the same tablespace as your
other tables ?
If this is the case, then you will not be able to perform a complete
recovery on the tablespace
affecting the other logged tables. Whenever I have a mix like you have, some
logged and some not,
I keep the tables/indexes seperate. I hope this helps

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DBAs,

I have two of my tables and index in nologging mode as I am loading data
using SQL*Loader direct path mode.

I have scheduled RMAN hot backup everday. When I issue REPORT UNRECOVERABLE,
I am getting both the Data and Index datafiles are unrecoverable.

I know that I wont be able to recover the tables in nologging mode. What I
would like to know is about the recovery possibility of other tables in
logging mode. Will there be any problem during recovery as these datafiles
are in unrecoverable status?

TIA

Cheers

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RE: Order of columns in a table

2001-05-11 Thread Mark Leith

LOL!!

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HELP


On 10 May 2001, at 12:53, SuzyV scribbled with alacrity and cogency:

 Am I an idiot??  

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Password with special character

2001-05-11 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi all,

Can Oracle User change their password with special characters?


Thank you very much


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import from corrupted export file.

2001-05-11 Thread Mohit Goyal

hi all,
how to take an import from a corrupted export file. the error message is
abnormal end of expoort file.
Thanks,
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RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Hallas, John

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I have worked on 3 sites with Gold support and I have never noticed any
difference between those and the Silver support sites. I believe that Oracle
provide analysis of no of calls opened, closed, outstanding and by person on
a monthly or quarterly basis for those on Gold support. Being on the sharp
end I have never been thankful for Gold support and it certainly costs a lot
more.

John




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My manager is thinking of moving us up to Gold support.
Does anyone out
there have it and if so could you give me you general
impression on having
that over Silver.  She says that at sites she used to work
at it means
having a dedicated resource on site.  Their phone support
for SEV1 calls is
basically sucks unless you hit the day shift.  


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Re: import from corrupted export file.

2001-05-11 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hi,

first of all, be sure that export file is not copied in ASCII mode.

if so, You can do:

- take a look at import log. find where it's cancelled
-  I guess internal data structers in export file is not so big. It's so
likely that corruption occured on your data. modify binary export file by an
binary editor.
there may be a note in metalink which explains some structures in expor
files.

hope this helps...

Mohit Goyal wrote:

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RE:PICKLER FETCH

2001-05-11 Thread Ron Rogers

A PICKLER FETCH is a fetch that is issued against a table. But before it actually 
takes place and anything is returned to you it must be: cleansed of any impurities, 
placed in a dark mysterious place, covered with an un-named substance that makes it 
feel crunchy when retrieved, allowed to age for a long period of time, and be handled 
by an internally secret processes. When returned to you it looks similar to what you 
wanted but it not exactly and you must try again. There are many varieties to this 
FETCH. Some are the Bread And Butter of the database provider and some are varieties 
not related to being Kosher.  The cure to the PICKLER FETCH problem is the use a 
larger vat, a faster ageing process, or upgrade the internally secret process. All of 
which will cost you more .
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Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Mujeeb Chowdhry

Hi DBA's,

How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I have one main user in the 
application and wants to drop user and all related objects. Can anyone help me in this 
regard.
Thanks
Mujeeb Chowdhry
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Re: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread james ellis

connect as sys or system.
drop user username cascade;
The user and all objects will be removed.


james
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RE: Which tables are in buffer cache.?

2001-05-11 Thread Hillman, Alex

Mark, how do you manually remove objects from buffer cache? I saw you
writing before that you know how to do it and I would be very interested to
know also if it is not trade secret of course.

Alex Hillman

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Been here: this is a really interesting exercise! You can query v$bh (or
its x$ base table)  which has a record for every buffer cache block. Link
on object ID's While tuning a 3000Tx/sec OLTP database I could get constant
24*7 performance by by examining objects in the buffer cache and manually
removing unwanted objects at end of business day. This prevents required
objects being aged out and having to be reloaded. Typical scenario is to
remove the index for the partition for 'todays' transactions to make room
in the buffer cache for 'tomorrows' transactions. Its good fun tuning at
this level. I wrote a gui via perl  DBI that dumped the bcache contents
(similar to the oracle tablespace manager gui) and allows objects to be
manually/automatically  removed from memory. I think DB2 can do this
already. Does 9i allow definition of custom  buffer pools
(buffer_pool_Transactions for example), each with its own aging algorithm?
Ive got the 9i beta cd here but havent even opened it. Too busy.

Mark Teehan
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RE: Password with special character

2001-05-11 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi Thye Hock Gan,

Thank you for your info.
I am using Oracle 8.1.6 Solaris 7
Install patch bug122 for SQL*PLUS

How can I change user password with special character
alter user teddy identified by bear12#$;

is not working because of 

alter user teddy identified by 'bear12#$';

also not working

I have password_verification profile with verify_function that provided by
Oracle Administrator Guide that must at least 1 special character in user
password.





Thank you,



Sinardy








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This are characters you can use:

!#$%()'*+,-/:;+_

if I'm not mistaken. Try them anyway.

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File open event

2001-05-11 Thread ARUN K C

Can Somebody please explain to me what this event is , I am not able to find 
good documentation on this issue.

EVENT  TOTAL_WAIT TOTAL_TIME TIME_WAITE AVERAGE_WA
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file identify38343  0   3135  .08176199
file open9436698  03934742 .416961738

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Contigency plan

2001-05-11 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi all,

Do you guys have any good references (books or URLs) that teach some good
Oracle potential problems with solutions for my contingency plan?



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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael

so the support bill we just paid should get refunded because it was for 
Silver Support which no longer exists? and I pay for support but they 
desupport the products I have paid support for, and instead of giving me the 
new software release so that the support I paid for is still relevant, they 
will charge me for the update. And not give me a prorated refund.

Ya know, if I'm gonna get screwed I'd at least like to enjoy it




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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:17:06 -0800

Apparently now Bronze/Silver is just called Product
Support, and Gold is called Premium. All 24x7.

Upgrades have been split off.

Of course now Metalink has to also be renamed (Oracle Ink9i, or
OInk9i?) since there is no more Metal, right. :)


http://www.oracle.com/support/index.html?support_ebus.html

---excerpt---

...
Oracle Support is leveraging the power of the Internet
 to deliver simpler and sharply focused support services,
 while making their purchase faster and easier. To
 facilitate web-based transactions, Product Support is
 now priced as a percentage of list license price.
  [7% of license cost (annual?)]
 Additionally, software updates can be purchased separately
 on a subscription basis,
  [15% of license cost, annual]
 and our OracleBRONZE and  OracleSILVER services have been
 consolidated into a single 24 x7 technical assistance
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 OracleLifecycle and our Oracle Expertise service
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Impact of query tuning

2001-05-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I just thought I should advertise this... usually people just complain.

Hi Patrice,
I have added indexes on the foreign keys in the [schema_name]
tables. Also, I tuned the SQL statements I was using to perform the
desired deletes. 
Results: The one delete job that ran for over 6 hours was performed
in under 5 seconds!!! 
These changes have dramatically increased not only the delete
process on the biochem tables but all activities I have performed.

A sincere thanks for your help!! 


Heh heh.

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XA Transaction Support - How to check for?

2001-05-11 Thread Miller, Jay

I just got the following question from a Microsoft consultant who's helping
another department resolve some problems:
Is Oracle XA Transaction Support enabled on the Oracle DB?'

I have no idea how to check this.  If asked, I would have guessed that it
was automatically enabled, but this isn't an area I know much about.  I've
been looking through the documentation without finding anything to tell me
where to look (did the obvious things like check for any parameters with
%xa% in them).

Can anyone tell me how to check this?  Or at least direct me to where in the
docs I should be looking?  
Thanks!

Oracle v. 8.0.4.3 (but finally got permission to upgrade later this year :).

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Re: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Muthaiah

Hi,


Drop user user_name cascade; will drop the user including objects.


Hope this helps,

Muths

At 05:40 AM 5/11/01 -0800, you wrote:
Hi DBA's,

How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I have one main user in 
the application and wants to drop user and all related objects. Can anyone 
help me in this regard.
Thanks
Mujeeb Chowdhry
Oracle DBA


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Re: Contigency plan

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Drake

http://www.drj.com - disaster recovery journal

For those of us who are beyond paranoid ... and would be carrying the
tapes to the remote data center.

Paul

Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Do you guys have any good references (books or URLs) that teach some good
 Oracle potential problems with solutions for my contingency plan?
 
 Thank you,
 
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PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread dmeng

I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
RTFMed on this one :) )
The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
table.
But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
similar
function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

TIA

Dennis Meng
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Focal Communications
847-954-8328

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Re: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Scott Canaan

Try drop user username cascade;

Mujeeb Chowdhry wrote:

 Hi DBA's,

 How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I have one main user in the 
application and wants to drop user and all related objects. Can anyone help me in 
this regard.
 Thanks
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I want to re-install system, how can I backup and recover?

2001-05-11 Thread Robert Chen

hi,

Because a hacker hackered our system, I have to re-install the solaris. How
can I backup the oracle database?

Just backup all the physical files? I am not a back up and recover expert.
Please help me...

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RE: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Armstead, Michael A

DORP USER username CASCADE;

Michael Armstead
Application Database Administrator, OCP-Certified
US Pharmaceuticals IT
Glaxo SmithKline

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 Hi DBA's,
 
 How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I have one main user in
 the application and wants to drop user and all related objects. Can anyone
 help me in this regard.
 Thanks
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RE: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Armstead, Michael A

Let's try to spell it correctly this time:

DROP USER username CASCADE;

Michael Armstead
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 DORP USER username CASCADE;
 
 Michael Armstead  
 Application Database Administrator, OCP-Certified
 US Pharmaceuticals IT
 Glaxo SmithKline
 
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   Hi DBA's,
 
   How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I have one main
 user in the application and wants to drop user and all related objects.
 Can anyone help me in this regard.
   Thanks
   Mujeeb Chowdhry
   Oracle DBA 
 
 
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RE: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Drop User username Cascade ;


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Hi DBA's,

How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I have one main user in
the application and wants to drop user and all related objects. Can anyone
help me in this regard.
Thanks
Mujeeb Chowdhry
Oracle DBA

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Re: Contigency plan

2001-05-11 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 11 May 2001,Paul Drake scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

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-For those of us who are beyond paranoid ... and would be carrying the
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Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes.

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RE: Veritas Backup Exec, Oracle Agent (Win2000)

2001-05-11 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Eric,

We're using Veritas NetBackup DataCenter (at our colocation facility) for
Win2k and it's been pretty good.  We had a problem earlier this year that
eventually prompted Veritas to issue a patched version of one of the
executables.  They were very responsive, but it was probably due to the
clout of our colocation host.

Veritas distributes some nice scripts for use with RMan (we use 8.1.6).
Don't know if they do the same for Backup Exec.

Jack


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re: Veritas Backup Exec, Oracle Agent for Windows 2000

Does anyone use the above combo?

Any probs/ issues/ tips?

thanks,
ep

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RE: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Use dbms_lock.sleep()

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Oracle error -20001

2001-05-11 Thread Pat Hildebrand

Has anyone any idea what this means?

It is coming up when trying to use a procedure in a PL/SQL package to
display a web page. With some negative errors we are able to remove
them by reloading all for the application in the OAS manager but not
this one.

Searching MetaLink I come up with suggestions to patch Applications
11i or upgrade Developer 6 - neither of which are in use here. I also
came up with cause not determined.

Environment: Sun OS 5.7
 Oracle8i Enterprise Edition release 8.1.6.0.0
 OAS 4.0 - we are using a secure server

Both the package and package body are valid.

Any help in unraveling this would be greaterly appreciated.


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Re: mod_plsql and PL/SQL pages

2001-05-11 Thread Bill Pribyl

Cyril Thankappan wrote:

  with the advent of PL/SQL pages
  is Oracle continuing development of MOD_PLSQL
  or is MOD_PLSQL merely provided for backward
  compatibility?

At run time, the Oracle server and Oracle's version of Apache use modplsql
to process PL/SQL Server Pages, so I'd say modplsql is part of the core
product set.  I am pretty sure they are adding new features  fixes to
modplsql in Oracle9i.

Bill

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RE: Export question.

2001-05-11 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

OK,

To answer a couple of questions, I did use compute statistics to get the
stats. I did not use compress=y. The table should have been 420Mb according
to the avg_row_len*num_rows calculation. The export file came out at 5.7Gb.
When I imported it fell over at 1Gb. I set my initial extent to what I
calculated it at earlier and next extent to 4Mb and tablespace (1Gb) filled
up.

I'm still confused as to how this happened. 

Never mind its the weekend, out to a top class restaurant tonight, its the
English FA Cup Final on Saturday (lots of beer) and the weather is
glorious..

Oracle ? Oracle Who 

Regards

Lee


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When you export it do not! use compress=Y.

When you import the table be sure to prebuild the table with the initial and
next extent sizes to be appropriate for this table.

This will reorg it unstead of putting it back the way it was.

Ruth

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 All,

 I have recently ran an analysis on a table and when calculating the table
 size using num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at about 420Mb. Nothing
 strange about that, however the amount of space this table is taking up is
 about 4.6Gb !

 Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am currently exporting this
 table and suddenly noticed that the dump file is now in excess of 1.5Gb
and
 still going strong.

 Does export merely backup the data or does it also backup other stuff
 (unused blocks, preallocated etc.)

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 Lee Robertson




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When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil

There is another thread going on about no database on
a single server, I have another  question to ask.

We have nearly 30 databases across Sun and Win 2000
Platforms. We are finding it tedious to  keep track of
tnsnames.ora. While looking out for a solution we hit
at ORACLE Names server. I hear it is going to give way
to ORACLE Internet directory. But after reading a
little I think using either would be too much of a
kill for the problem. 

Any opinions?


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Alert log

2001-05-11 Thread Raj Gopalan

DBAs

My alert.log is clogged with following message..

ARC0: received prod
ARC0: Beginning to archive log# 4 seq# 286600
ARC0: Completed archiving log# 4 seq# 286600
ARC0: re-scanning for new log files
ARC0: prodding the archiver
Fri May 11 16:10:01 2001
ARC1: received prod
Fri May 11 16:26:00 2001
LGWR: prodding the archiver
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 286602
  Current log# 1 seq# 286602 mem# 0: /hcg1/datafiles/redolog_group1.log
  Current log# 1 seq# 286602 mem# 1: /hcg2/datafiles/redolog_group1.log
Fri May 11 16:26:00 2001
ARC0: received prod
ARC0: Beginning to archive log# 5 seq# 286601
ARC0: Completed archiving log# 5 seq# 286601
ARC0: re-scanning for new log files
ARC0: prodding the archiver
Fri May 11 16:26:03 2001
ARC1: received prod

I can understand that log switch is occuring but what these ARC0 messages
doing here? I dont remember of enabling any parameter or setting for this..
Could you help me in locating the cause for these messages in alert.log..

TIA

Cheers

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RE: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Baumgartel

There is indeed a sleep, in dbms_lock, taking a single argument seconds.

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I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
RTFMed on this one :) )
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periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
table.
But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
similar
function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

TIA

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Re: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Jared Still


Dennis,

How about dbms_lock.sleep(seconds) ?

Jared


On Friday 11 May 2001 08:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
 question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
 RTFMed on this one :) )
 The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
 periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
 table.
 But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
 option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
 similar
 function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

 TIA

 Dennis Meng
 Database Administrator
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 847-954-8328
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saving billions? / fwd: GE Scales Back Amid Struggle To Connect Suppliers

2001-05-11 Thread Eric D. Pierce

fyi
(follow up to the thread about Oracle's claims to save
billions by converting business practices with internet
technology)

---original message follows---

Date sent:  Thu, 10 May 2001 02:03:28 -0400 (EDT)

 TODAY'S NEWS
 
 *  GE Scales Back Amid Struggle To Connect Suppliers

...

 *  OPINION: Rob Preston: There's No Shame In Realization That E-Biz Is Tough

...

 ***
 GE Scales Back Amid Struggle To Connect Suppliers
 
 General Electric Co., a harbinger of the e-business future for many companies, is 
scaling back its expectations of the Internet. In the process, GE is calling into 
question whether it's even possible to build a fully Net-enabled supply chain.
 
 The $130 billion conglomerate, which boldly predicted last June that it would use 
Internet technology to cut $10 billion in costs by mid-2002, conceded last week that 
it will only record $1.6 billion in savings this year. 
 
 One big reason for the revised estimates: GE is having trouble connecting customers 
and suppliers to Web-trading systems. While executives wouldn't say how many 
suppliers it works with on the Web to perform critical functions, such as 
order-taking and logistics management, experts placed the 
figure at roughly 25 percent, or 7,500, of GE's 30,000 suppliers. Another 7,500 or so 
connect to GE using electronic data interchange (EDI) networks that predate the 
Internet. That leaves 15,000 that rely mainly on manual processes to conduct business 
with GE.
 
 GE executives wouldn't reset the timetable for 100 percent supplier Web-enablement, 
but a step toward that goal will be reached in November, by which point GE will use 
the Web to pay all suppliers electronically, officials said. --Chuck Moozakis
 
 Read on:
 http://update.internetweek.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eDfk0BdpN70V30Nma0Au
 
 ***

...

 ***
 OPINION: Rob Preston: There's No Shame In Realization That E-Biz Is Tough
 
 No one said e-business transformation would be easy. At least Jack Welch never did.
 
 When Welch, General Electric's no-nonsense chairman, first marshaled his top 
executives two years ago to drive most every company process and partner interaction 
onto the Internet, the understanding--as with all Welch directives--was for swift and 
unswerving compliance. But he knew that the 
Internet wouldn't transform the 120-year-old company overnight, even if the execs he 
had whipped into a frenzy proceeded to tout every incremental e-business milestone.
 
 The company has come to realize that Internet-enabling its sprawling value chain of 
strategic suppliers and business customers--the place where real e-transformation 
takes place--will take longer than the internal stuff.
 
 But there's no shame in this realization. E-business is a constantly moving target. 
The best companies learn from their mistakes and miscalculations--and they move on. 
--Rob Preston
 
 Get the whole story:
 http://update.internetweek.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eDfk0BdpN70V30Nmh0A2
 
 ***

...

 Did someone forward this to you? Get your own issue...
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Re: Oracle 9i Articles - self tuning, launch delayed to

2001-05-11 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Paul,

Clarification: I didn't write the material, I was just
posting an excerpt from an Oracle document.

Anyway, I vastly enjoyed your comments. so. I take it 
that you also found the lack of detail about self tuning
to be problematic. :)

Presumably we now have a lot to look forward to in terms of
reading Oracle9i tuning documentation, scattered stuff in 
a bewildering variety of official Oracle manuals, various
tech notes, TAR dialogues, suport forums, listservs, and 
of course 3rd party tuning books. I love the madness!

Thanks for the very generous offer of help w/ Veritas/Win2K.
Will ponder after talking to the Win2k SA folks. Since the 
Veritas Win2K BE  Oracle agent are fairly cheap, and we get
an almost 1/2 off education discount, we are buying it.

regards,
ep


On 10 May 2001, at 23:35, Paul Drake wrote:

Date sent:  Thu, 10 May 2001 23:35:21 -0800
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 Eric D. Pierce wrote:

[excerpted from: 
http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/database/9i/continuity/index.html?manageas.html ]

 
Summary
  
 Self-tuning, self-managing Oracle9i monitors your system
 to provide high availability, reliability and minimized
 downtime. Whether you are a hosting service, in-house
 data center, or IT organization, you can rely on Oracle9i
 and its system management products to provide optimal
 quality of service to all users. 
  
 
 Eric,
 
 I believe that I see the emergence of new BOFH excuse of the day
 material:

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RE: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Drop schema and all related objects





 -Original Message-
 From: james ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 connect as sys or system.
 drop user username cascade;
 The user and all objects will be removed.
 
 --- Mujeeb Chowdhry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I
  have one main user in the application and wants to
  drop user and all related objects. Can anyone help
  me in this regard.



In My Humble Opinion, connecting as sys or system should be reserved for tasks that cannot be accomplished through another user.

Instead, you could connect as any user that has DBA role (or the appropriate privileges) and then issue the drop statement.

Also, it can often prove useful later to first do an export of the user and all the objects owned by that user, BEFORE doing the drop user cascade.

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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 11 May 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-Is this truly the beloved authoress of Oracle DBA 101 I hear?
-
-You speak sourly of our Lord in front of his very home?  snicker snicker

Ross be careful. Remember do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are 
crunchy and go well with ketchup.;-)

She's not the only one upset, they just nailed us here for Silver support big time.

And I can't ever get logged into metawhat to put in the iTAR I have to have before I 
call support to get the silver support we paid for that doesn't even exist anymore.

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RE: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Dasko, Dan

while trunc(sysdate, ss) = 30 loop

I think this should do whatever's in the loop every minute on the 30 second
point.

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The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
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But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
similar
function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
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847-954-8328

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RE: Contigency plan

2001-05-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

LOL!

There are enough disasters in the world to support a journal?

: )

(I know, I know... it's to plan ahead, just in case.  I still think this was
funny though.  It's Friday, OK?)

Patrice Boivin
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http://www.drj.com - disaster recovery journal

For those of us who are beyond paranoid ... and would be carrying
the
tapes to the remote data center.

Paul


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RE: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

if the tediousness exceeds your perception of the difficulty, do Names. 

if not, not. 

In my very limited experience, a truly robust, well-managed Names service
is great, but takes some work to set up, test, and document. 

YMMV

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|| 
|| We have nearly 30 databases across Sun and Win 2000
|| Platforms. We are finding it tedious to  keep track of
|| tnsnames.ora. While looking out for a solution we hit
|| at ORACLE Names server. I hear it is going to give way
|| to ORACLE Internet directory. But after reading a
|| little I think using either would be too much of a
|| kill for the problem. 
|| 
|| Any opinions?
|| 
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Re:When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread dgoulet

We have 20+ instances  this mess called PeopleSoft, so keeping track of
TNSNAMES is a real tedious thing to do.  Consequently we migrated to Oracle
Names  have loved it ever since.  If your going to get on Onames, use either
7.3.4's version of 8.1.6's.  8.0.x's version has way too many bugs.

Dick Goulet

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Date:   5/11/2001 8:15 AM

There is another thread going on about no database on
a single server, I have another  question to ask.

We have nearly 30 databases across Sun and Win 2000
Platforms. We are finding it tedious to  keep track of
tnsnames.ora. While looking out for a solution we hit
at ORACLE Names server. I hear it is going to give way
to ORACLE Internet directory. But after reading a
little I think using either would be too much of a
kill for the problem. 

Any opinions?


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Why do I still see index partitions when I dropped the underlying table

2001-05-11 Thread Cherie_Machler


This one's got me stumped.  We are on 8.0.4 on Sun Solaris 2.6.

I have some locally indexed partitions on a table that's
partitioned by time.   I dropped the '96 and '95 partitions
of the underlying table and I no longer see them.  I used
the following statements:

alter table xx  truncate partition 95 drop storage;
alter table xx drop partition 95;

According to the documentation, the corresponding
'95 and '96 index partitions (for a locally indexed table
which I confirmed that it is using the LOCALITY column
of dba_ind_partitions) should be dropped automatically.
However, when I query dba_ind_partitions view, I can still
see them.

Documentation says I can not specifically drop index
partitions of locally indexed tables (can only do this
for globally indexed tables).  I actually tried to drop
these partitions and Oracle gave me an error message
saying I couldn't do it because it was a local index.

I thought these index partition 95 and 96 would go away.
Why do I still see them?  We will rebuild the index tonight
but I can't rebuild the whole index right now - too much
performance degredation.

I'm just curious about what is going on.   Do I need to
refresh something?   Is there anything low-impact I can
do right now to make these index partitions go away?
Do I even need to care?

Thanks for any kind soul with answers.

Cherie Machler
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Re: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread Jared Still


Somewhat of a pain to setup for the first time, for sure.

But after you get it implemented, you will never want to
go back.

One caveat:  There is a fair amount of software around
that *requires* tnsnames.ora or it won't work.  Oracle
Forms on unix comes to mind.  Yes, Oracle's own software
does not fully utilize names.

This is a minor problem when compared to the benefits though.

Jared


On Friday 11 May 2001 10:50, Mohan, Ross wrote:
 if the tediousness exceeds your perception of the difficulty, do Names.

 if not, not.

 In my very limited experience, a truly robust, well-managed Names service
 is great, but takes some work to set up, test, and document.

 YMMV

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 ||
 || We have nearly 30 databases across Sun and Win 2000
 || Platforms. We are finding it tedious to  keep track of
 || tnsnames.ora. While looking out for a solution we hit
 || at ORACLE Names server. I hear it is going to give way
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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I am confused now, I thought Oracle was rolling up the support costs into
the license cost calculations now that they discontinued the Bronze, Silver,
Gold support options.

This is like income tax forms!  Why can't they just create an income tax
form that is only half a page long!  I can't believe that politicians never
promise this during election campaigns, you would think that would be a sure
ticket to being elected.

Likewise with Oracle, and other vendors - why complicate things needlessly?
Life is bad enough as it is, why try to mess things up for other people even
more.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique 
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From:   Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, May 11, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

so the support bill we just paid should get refunded because it was
for 
Silver Support which no longer exists? and I pay for support but
they 
desupport the products I have paid support for, and instead of
giving me the 
new software release so that the support I paid for is still
relevant, they 
will charge me for the update. And not give me a prorated refund.

Ya know, if I'm gonna get screwed I'd at least like to enjoy it




From: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:17:06 -0800

Apparently now Bronze/Silver is just called Product
Support, and Gold is called Premium. All 24x7.

Upgrades have been split off.

Of course now Metalink has to also be renamed (Oracle Ink9i, or
OInk9i?) since there is no more Metal, right. :)


http://www.oracle.com/support/index.html?support_ebus.html

---excerpt---

...
Oracle Support is leveraging the power of the Internet
 to deliver simpler and sharply focused support services,
 while making their purchase faster and easier. To
 facilitate web-based transactions, Product Support is
 now priced as a percentage of list license price.
  [7% of license cost (annual?)]
 Additionally, software updates can be purchased separately
 on a subscription basis,
  [15% of license cost, annual]
 and our OracleBRONZE and  OracleSILVER services have been
 consolidated into a single 24 x7 technical assistance
 service and removed from the price list. OracleGOLD,
 OracleLifecycle and our Oracle Expertise service
 capabilities are now offered within the Premium Support
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Re: PostGres WAS: RE: Oracle 9i Articles - self tuning, launch delaye

2001-05-11 Thread Diana_Duncan


Yes, it's open source.

My personal project uses Apache, PHP and Postgres on Linux servers -- pure
open source.  Guess how long the servers and the web server and hence the
site have been up?  Pretty much since we installed.  Love it!!!  For those
of you who don't know, PHP is a server-side templating language based on
Perl, and it is dreamy.

I'm honestly not sure if your mail is arriving in MIME format -- it just
looks like plain text to me.  I'm unfortunately on a Lotus Notes email
client now, and I haven't figured out how to turn off all the rich text,
etc.  Anyone else out there know how to do it?  I humbly apologize if I'm
cluttering up the list, and I'll switch to something else if that will
help.

Diana Duncan
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Is it Open Source?

also, from your mail, is it true I am sending to you
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||
||
|| Oooh, I *like* Postgres.  I'm having super much fun with it
|| on a personal
|| project right now, and I must say they really trump Oracle
|| on a few things.
|| Of course, I don't know how it handles large amounts of data
|| or users or
|| transactions yet...and I know nothing about the tunability.
|| But it really
|| seems to make the easy things easy and the hard things easier which
|| Oracle certainly doesn't even attempt to do.
||
|| I know, I know, it's an Oracle list, but it's nice to step
|| out of the box
|| occasionally.
||
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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

Yes, I join you in significant frustration with oracle.
( Although I had a visitation from an OWS goddess just
  recently that ameliorates my rancor significantly.)


Things like 

Postgres  www.postgresql.org
and Kdb  www.kx.com

are becoming increasingly interesting to me. 

But, even if I leave the happy world of Power Units, 
Armani suits, and self-tuning apps, I will still 
stay on this list, just to ask people my favorite 
question: Are you an idiot?


With Love, Eternal Joy, and Ketchup, 

etc. 

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|| 
|| 
|| On Fri, 11 May 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in 
|| glitter crayon:
|| 
|| -Is this truly the beloved authoress of Oracle DBA 101 I hear?
|| -
|| -You speak sourly of our Lord in front of his very home?  
|| snicker snicker
|| 
|| Ross be careful. Remember do not meddle in the affairs of 
|| dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with ketchup.;-)
|| 
|| She's not the only one upset, they just nailed us here for 
|| Silver support big time.
|| 
|| And I can't ever get logged into metawhat to put in the iTAR 
|| I have to have before I call support to get the silver 
|| support we paid for that doesn't even exist anymore.
|| 
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RE: Which tables are in buffer cache.?

2001-05-11 Thread Connor McDonald

I think if you offline a tablespace (or is it
read-only? I can't remember), then any relevant
buffers are flushed out...

hth
connor

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 would be very interested to
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 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:11 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Been here: this is a really interesting exercise!
 You can query v$bh (or
 its x$ base table)  which has a record for every
 buffer cache block. Link
 on object ID's While tuning a 3000Tx/sec OLTP
 database I could get constant
 24*7 performance by by examining objects in the
 buffer cache and manually
 removing unwanted objects at end of business day.
 This prevents required
 objects being aged out and having to be reloaded.
 Typical scenario is to
 remove the index for the partition for 'todays'
 transactions to make room
 in the buffer cache for 'tomorrows' transactions.
 Its good fun tuning at
 this level. I wrote a gui via perl  DBI that dumped
 the bcache contents
 (similar to the oracle tablespace manager gui) and
 allows objects to be
 manually/automatically  removed from memory. I think
 DB2 can do this
 already. Does 9i allow definition of custom  buffer
 pools
 (buffer_pool_Transactions for example), each with
 its own aging algorithm?
 Ive got the 9i beta cd here but havent even opened
 it. Too busy.
 
 Mark Teehan
 Singapore
 
 
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RE: Password with special character

2001-05-11 Thread Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA

If you're using the a profile with a password_verify function, then you
shouldn't be using ALTER USER to change a user's password.  If you are
trying to change the password through SQL*Plus, then you should instead be
using the SQL*Plus PASSWORD command:

SQL PASSWORD username

Using this command will validate the user's new password using the
password_verify function that is specified in the user's profile, and will
allow for the password to contain the special characters that you are trying
to use.  When you use ALTER USER it doesn't use that password_verify
function, and because it is a DDL command, it limits you to Oracle's object
naming restrictions, which will not allow you to use most special
characters.  For more information on this, see the Oracle8i Administrators
Guide, pp 21-15 under Password Complexity Verification, and also the
SQL*Plus Users Guide and Reference Release 8.1.6, pp 8-76 for details on
using the PASSWORD command.  Both of these documents are available on
Metalink.

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Hi Thye Hock Gan,

Thank you for your info.
I am using Oracle 8.1.6 Solaris 7
Install patch bug122 for SQL*PLUS

How can I change user password with special character
alter user teddy identified by bear12#$;

is not working because of 

alter user teddy identified by 'bear12#$';

also not working

I have password_verification profile with verify_function that provided by
Oracle Administrator Guide that must at least 1 special character in user
password.





Thank you,



Sinardy








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This are characters you can use:

!#$%()'*+,-/:;+_

if I'm not mistaken. Try them anyway.

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Re: desc SQL*PLUS

2001-05-11 Thread Stephen Andert

We had a similar thing when we upgraded OS last weekend.  Re-linking sqlplus from the 
correct (i.e. new) ORACLE_HOME resolved our problem.

HTH 
Stephen 

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Hello DBA's

I have recently upgraded from 8.1.6.0 to 8.1.6.3.

I seem to be having a weird problem in sql*plus, in that whenever I do a
describe on a table it comes up with the following error :-

SQL desc emp;
ERROR:
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel

I can run select statements without any problems !


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RE: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Hillman, Alex

If there is a lot of objects in the schema you may need to increase
parameter enqueue_resources. If not enougn enqueues this command will  give
you an error and user and some objects will not be dropped. If you don't
want to increase this parameter you can repeate this command until user will
be dropped.

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connect as sys or system.
drop user username cascade;
The user and all objects will be removed.


james
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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 11 May 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-question: Are you an idiot?

Yes, but everybody already knows that.;-)

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Re: PL/SQL-procedures

2001-05-11 Thread David A. Barbour

Write a package.

David A. Barbour

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 How can I write procedure which runs 3 different subprocedures.?
 
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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Henry Poras

I was also under the impression that Oracle was just splitting up the cost
for Upgrades and Support mainly because these two pieces can be dealt with
differently for tax purposes. I have no clue what makes large (or even
moderately small) corporations happy, but apparently this is one thing that
does as my Finance dept has asked me in the past if I could split support
costs into upgrade/support. (boy, talk about your run-on and on and on
sentences)

Henry

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I am confused now, I thought Oracle was rolling up the support costs into
the license cost calculations now that they discontinued the Bronze, Silver,
Gold support options.

This is like income tax forms!  Why can't they just create an income tax
form that is only half a page long!  I can't believe that politicians never
promise this during election campaigns, you would think that would be a sure
ticket to being elected.

Likewise with Oracle, and other vendors - why complicate things needlessly?
Life is bad enough as it is, why try to mess things up for other people even
more.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique 
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From:   Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, May 11, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

so the support bill we just paid should get refunded because it was
for 
Silver Support which no longer exists? and I pay for support but
they 
desupport the products I have paid support for, and instead of
giving me the 
new software release so that the support I paid for is still
relevant, they 
will charge me for the update. And not give me a prorated refund.

Ya know, if I'm gonna get screwed I'd at least like to enjoy it




From: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:17:06 -0800

Apparently now Bronze/Silver is just called Product
Support, and Gold is called Premium. All 24x7.

Upgrades have been split off.

Of course now Metalink has to also be renamed (Oracle Ink9i, or
OInk9i?) since there is no more Metal, right. :)


http://www.oracle.com/support/index.html?support_ebus.html

---excerpt---

...
Oracle Support is leveraging the power of the Internet
 to deliver simpler and sharply focused support services,
 while making their purchase faster and easier. To
 facilitate web-based transactions, Product Support is
 now priced as a percentage of list license price.
  [7% of license cost (annual?)]
 Additionally, software updates can be purchased separately
 on a subscription basis,
  [15% of license cost, annual]
 and our OracleBRONZE and  OracleSILVER services have been
 consolidated into a single 24 x7 technical assistance
 service and removed from the price list. OracleGOLD,
 OracleLifecycle and our Oracle Expertise service
 capabilities are now offered within the Premium Support
 menu. 

...

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Re: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Jared Still


Dan,

While this does not work as is, but probably could be in
some fashion, you win the days raspberry for the most
obfuscated answer. :)

Jared


On Friday 11 May 2001 09:56, Dasko, Dan wrote:
 while trunc(sysdate, ss) = 30 loop

 I think this should do whatever's in the loop every minute on the 30 second
 point.

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 I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
 question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
 RTFMed on this one :) )
 The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
 periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
 table.
 But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
 option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
 similar
 function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

 TIA

 Dennis Meng
 Database Administrator
 Focal Communications
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RMAN compatibility

2001-05-11 Thread mike oneil

Hi,
  I've installed RMAN 8.1.7 with my db on NT.  I also
use it to back up another NT cluster instance, also
8.1.7.  I also wanted to use it to backup a HPUX 8.1.5
instance but i get an error Target DB is not
compatible with version of RMAN.  Now I get two
answers from Oracle.  The first one says that I cannot
use RMAN release 8.1.7 on prior versions of Oracle. 
The second says that I can but refers to note 121125.1
which is not available for public viewing.  When I
mentioned that note to the first response on a call
back she stated that that note doesn't exist.  Anyway,
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this
and any suggestions about how to solve the problem.

TIA,
  mikeo

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Re: RE: Drop schema and all related objects

2001-05-11 Thread Mujeeb Chowdhry

Thanks to all who replied, it works. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11 1:42 PM 
 -Original Message-
 From: james ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 
 connect as sys or system.
 drop user username cascade;
 The user and all objects will be removed.
 
 --- Mujeeb Chowdhry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  How can I drop schema (user and all it's objects). I
  have one main user in the application and wants to
  drop user and all related objects. Can anyone help
  me in this regard.


In My Humble Opinion, connecting as sys or system should be reserved for
tasks that cannot be accomplished through another user.
Instead, you could connect as any user that has DBA role (or the appropriate
privileges) and then issue the drop statement.
Also, it can often prove useful later to first do an export of the user and
all the objects owned by that user, BEFORE doing the drop user cascade.

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Re: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Bill Pribyl

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 I am wondering if there is a similar
 function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

Use dbms_lock.sleep -- it's pretty much like Unix sleep, but requires you to
grant execute on dbms_lock to whichever account needs it.

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OT - RE: PostGres

2001-05-11 Thread Scott . Shafer

Diana,

Sounds like an excellent alternative to higher end systems (shoots self in
oracle-foot).  Have you tested how well it scales yet?

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

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 Yes, it's open source.
 
 My personal project uses Apache, PHP and Postgres on Linux servers -- pure
 open source.  Guess how long the servers and the web server and hence the
 site have been up?  Pretty much since we installed.  Love it!!!  For those
 of you who don't know, PHP is a server-side templating language based on
 Perl, and it is dreamy.
 
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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

Is this truly the beloved authoress of Oracle DBA 101 I hear?

You speak sourly of our Lord in front of his very home?  snicker snicker

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|| From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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|| 
|| 
|| so the support bill we just paid should get refunded because 
|| it was for 
|| Silver Support which no longer exists? and I pay for support 
|| but they 
|| desupport the products I have paid support for, and instead 
|| of giving me the 
|| new software release so that the support I paid for is still 
|| relevant, they 
|| will charge me for the update. And not give me a prorated refund.
|| 
|| Ya know, if I'm gonna get screwed I'd at least like to enjoy it
|| 
|| 
|| 
|| 
|| From: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|| Subject: RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support
|| Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:17:06 -0800
|| 
|| Apparently now Bronze/Silver is just called Product
|| Support, and Gold is called Premium. All 24x7.
|| 
|| Upgrades have been split off.
|| 
|| Of course now Metalink has to also be renamed (Oracle Ink9i, or
|| OInk9i?) since there is no more Metal, right. :)
|| 
|| 
|| http://www.oracle.com/support/index.html?support_ebus.html
|| 
|| ---excerpt---
|| 
|| ...
|| Oracle Support is leveraging the power of the Internet
||  to deliver simpler and sharply focused support services,
||  while making their purchase faster and easier. To
||  facilitate web-based transactions, Product Support is
||  now priced as a percentage of list license price.
||   [7% of license cost (annual?)]
||  Additionally, software updates can be purchased separately
||  on a subscription basis,
||   [15% of license cost, annual]
||  and our OracleBRONZE and  OracleSILVER services have been
||  consolidated into a single 24 x7 technical assistance
||  service and removed from the price list. OracleGOLD,
||  OracleLifecycle and our Oracle Expertise service
||  capabilities are now offered within the Premium Support
||  menu. 
|| 
|| ...
|| 
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Re: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Richard Ji

dbms_lock.sleep(second in number);

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/01 11:20AM 
I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
RTFMed on this one :) )
The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
table.
But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
similar
function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
Focal Communications
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RE: Oracle 9i Articles - self tuning, launch delayed to

2001-05-11 Thread sheisey

Eric, Sales and marketing have 1 job and that is to sell 
and market. These marketing things are teasers not 
necessarily giving detailed information. I have not 
checked but there may be some Oracle9i stuff on OLN. I 
think OLN has a trial membership (for 30 days?). However 
I am not sure of the detail. 

I do know that 9i still offers the old way of tuning, 
however you can have Oracle do it for you if you want. 
The automatic tuning allows Oracle to adjust memory 
structures dynamically and when oracle adjusts these 
structures it write that information to the SPFILE. The 
SPFILE is the oracle managed init.ora. This dynamic 
tuning can also be temporary instead of persistent. 9i 
also brings back the ability to monitor the buffer cache.  
This will help you in determining if you need to add or 
subtract buffers.

As far as the MTTR goes, you have this in 8i as well. 
Oracle8i has you specify the MTTR information in blocks 
where oracle9i has you specify it in seconds, then 
oracle9i will determine how many blocks and how often the 
blocks need to be written to the redo logs for faster 
instance recovery.

Oracle managed files are nothing special. Oracle already 
creates the datafile for you. Oracle9i allows you to 
specify an init.ora parameter to specify where the 
datafiles get created by default. This also works for log 
files. This way you say CREATE TABLESPACE test and 
oracle will create the datafile in the specified location  
from the init.ora.

Oracle managed UNDO are also just rollback segments that 
are managed by Oracle and not you. The oracle managed 
UNDO are still segments just like the ones you create. 
The oracle managed UNDO(AUTO) has features that you can't 
get with old way of doing UNDO (Manual). The AUTO undo 
automatically creates UNDO segments based on init.ora 
parameters that I haven't quite figured out yet. The AUTO 
undo also allows retention of UNDO for a specified period 
of time. I haven't tested this but have been told that 
AUTO undo can steal extents from other rollback segments 
if that specific rollback segment needs more space 
(extents) and cannot extend in the current tablespace.

Scott
 dude,
 
 The article is not actually providing details, it is just
 reporting that Oracle has provided details. Who got
 them, when, how, where is a different story. :)
 
 It is weird how the article doesn't cite any specific 
 sources at Oracle. I even looked in www.oracle.com's press 
 releases page (yuk), and so forth, and couldn't see anything.
 Although there is a Press Portal at www.oracle.com that 
 seems to require registration prior to access.
 
 In terms of general 9i product information, there is a lot
 of stuff (see below), but I couldn't find *anything* at the
 first or second level of the 9i info that jumped out at me
 as being focused clearly explaining self tuning details.
 
 
 The data sheet on Oracle9i Manageability (URL below) refers
 
 http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/database/9i/continuity/index.html?manageas.html
 
 to startup/backup issues, and indicates that a persistent
 INIT.ORA feature is used to bring self tuned parameter
 settings across shutdowns. 
 
 Sounds like an incredibly giant pile of cr*p to me. The
 assumption they are presumably arguing *against* is that
 self-tuned features would somehow be non-persistent. The
 circumstances under which a self tuning database would
 forget what it had done previously is unexplained. 
 Apparently the people that produce the marketing drivel at 
 Oracle either have no clue about this specific topic, or the
 material was presented to them in an incoherent maner (or 
 both). At any rate it is exceptionally unhelpful to the
 reader (especially those without a lot of time to waste) to
 hae to attempt to make sense out of such garbage.
 
 Moving right along...
 
 In the Resource Management section (same URL):
 
  - self-managing rollback segments (some detail)
 
  - multi-block size db files for portability 
 
  - memory management: 
 
  * SGA self tuning (buffer cache and shared pool)
 
  * SGA tuning advisories
 
  * transparent management of working memory for SQL 
 execution by self tuning the initialization runtime
 parameters controlling allocation of private memory
 
 
  - Oracle Managed Files (auto creation of db files)
 
  - control downtime ... specify  mean time to recover 
(MTTR) ... in number of seconds ... coupled with 
dynamic initialization parameters ... improve
database availability
 
(which means ??, I don't know)
 
 - new capability ... resumable statements ... temporarily 
suspend ... operation ...  process encounters out of 
space errors ... fix problem ... resume the operation 
from the point of interruption ... without disrupting
normal database operations
 
 [new section:]
 End-to-End Management of Oracle's Internet Infrastructure
 
   ... is continuous system availability, reliability, and 
  performance ... important 

RE: After Update on TABLE_NAME For Each Row... Triggers and

2001-05-11 Thread Henry Poras

I ran a few tests of this on both a 7.3.4 and 8.1.6 database and found there
is definitely a difference in the way Oracle handles FK constraints. In my
tests, I created a PARENT and CHILD table, with FK constraint, and with a
trigger on the CHILD. I used two differenct after update triggers: one slept
for 2 seconds (sleepy), one inserted old and new data into a RESULTS table.
I then ran two updates, one successful and one unsuccessful due to the FK.
Tracing was on. 

I'll paste parts of the trace files at the end. The main points are that:
In 7.3.4 Oracle checks the FK by running SELECT null FROM parent
WHERE id=:1
If this succeeeds, run the trigger, otherwise get the FK name for
the error message
In 8.1.6 the trigger is run regardless, and rolled back if
necessary. I see the Insert for the RESULTS table even
when the FK is violated. I also see the extra 2 second wait in the
trace file for my sleepy trigger. The problem is
that the entries in the RESULTS table can be rolled back, but not
the 2 second sleep.

Sounds like a bug to me. 

Henry

sqlplus system/manager EOF
DROP TABLE child_temp
/
DROP TABLE parent_temp
/
CREATE TABLE parent_temp (id number)
/
CREATE TABLE child_temp  (id number)
/
ALTER TABLE parent_temp
ADD CONSTRAINT pk_id
PRIMARY KEY (id)
/
ALTER TABLE child_temp
ADD CONSTRAINT fk_id
FOREIGN KEY (id) REFERENCES parent_temp
/
INSERT INTO parent_temp VALUES (1)
/
INSERT INTO parent_temp VALUES (2)
/
ALTER SESSION SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'
/
INSERT INTO child_temp VALUES (1)
/
UPDATE child_temp SET id=2 WHERE id=1
/
UPDATE child_temp SET id=3 WHERE id=2
/
EOF
sqlplus system/manager EOF
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER sleepy
AFTER UPDATE ON system.child_temp
FOR EACH ROW
BEGIN
dbms_lock.sleep(2);
END;
/
/* or use
  DROP TABLE results_temp
  /
  CREATE TABLE results_temp (old number,
   new number)
  /
  CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER results
  AFTER UPDATE ON system.child_temp
  FOR EACH ROW
  BEGIN
  INSERT INTO results_temp VALUES (:old.id, :new.id);
  END;
  / */
ALTER SESSION SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'
/
UPDATE child_temp SET id=1 WHERE id=2
/
UPDATE child_temp SET id=3 WHERE id=1
/
EOF

Edited trace files

Oracle7 Server Release 7.3.4.0.1 - Production
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=38 dep=0 uid=5 oct=6 lid=5 tim=12613128
hv=710801591 ad='801c1e34'
UPDATE child_temp SET id=1 WHERE id=2
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #2 len=56 dep=1 uid=0 oct=3 lid=0 tim=12613128
hv=2218816300 ad='802ecc4c'
 select null from SYSTEM.PARENT_TEMP where ID = :1
EXEC #2:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=1,og=4,tim=12613128
FETCH #2:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=2,cu=0,mis=0,r=1,dep=1,og=4,tim=12613128
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #4 len=112 dep=2 uid=0 oct=3 lid=0 tim=12613130
hv=2862726689 ad='80301e5c'
select u.name,o.name from obj$ o,user$ u,trigger$ t where t.baseobject=:1
and t.obj#=o.obj# and o.owner#=u.user#
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #3 len=44 dep=1 uid=5 oct=2 lid=5 tim=12613130
hv=1893271645 ad='801b8e90'
INSERT INTO RESULTS_TEMP VALUES ( :b1,:b2  )
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #2 len=124 dep=1 uid=0 oct=3 lid=0 tim=12613131
hv=1953436077 ad='802f0a9c'
select i.file#, i.block#, i.cols, s.groups from ind$ i, seg$ s where obj# =
:1 and i.file# = s.file# and i.block# = s.block#
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=38 dep=0 uid=5 oct=6 lid=5 tim=12613131
hv=710800563 ad='801b321c'
UPDATE child_temp SET id=3 WHERE id=1
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #2 len=56 dep=1 uid=0 oct=3 lid=0 tim=12613131
hv=2218816300 ad='802ecc4c'
 select null from SYSTEM.PARENT_TEMP where ID = :1
EXEC #2:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=1,og=4,tim=12613131
FETCH #2:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=1,og=4,tim=12613131
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #3 len=80 dep=1 uid=0 oct=3 lid=0 tim=12613131
hv=3971794324 ad='802a67e8'
select o.name, c.name from con$ c, user$ o  where c.con# = :1 and owner# =
user#
XCTEND rlbk=0, rd_only=0
XCTEND rlbk=0, rd_only=1


Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=38 dep=0 uid=5 oct=6 lid=5 tim=168651643
hv=1710742153 ad='82d88fa4'
UPDATE child_temp SET id=1 WHERE id=2
END OF STMT
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #3 len=48 dep=2 uid=0 oct=3 lid=0 tim=168651645
hv=1005331575 ad='82dda048'
select user# from sys.user$ where name = 'OUTLN'
END OF STMT
PARSE #3:c=1,e=1,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=2,og=4,tim=168651645
BINDS #3:
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #3 len=175 dep=2 uid=0 oct=3 lid=0 tim=168651645
hv=1491008679 ad='82f1293c'
select u.name,o.name, t.update$, t.insert$, t.delete$, t.enabled  from obj$
o,user$ u,trigger$ t  where t.baseobject=:1 and t.obj#=o.obj# and
o.owner#=u.user#  order by o.obj#
=
PARSING IN CURSOR #2 len=44 dep=1 uid=5 oct=2 lid=5 tim=168651646
hv=1493239216 ad='82d9436c'
INSERT INTO RESULTS_TEMP VALUES ( 

Fwd: oracle replication

2001-05-11 Thread Jared Still



FYI I am forwarding this to the list, so please address
replies to the original sender.

--  Forwarded Message  --
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:45:43 +0530

Hi jared

 This is Nihar from india. I am having some query regarding Oracle
Replication.
 Basically i am having 2 diffrent server running oracle 8i on solaris.One is
in usa and one is in india.Now the table i want to replicate is users
database. I want to have unique username on both the end. but Us users
database should be there on usa server and same for the indian database
users.
 can u just help me in deciding replication method and can u pls tell me how
should i go bout it..?

though i am not an oracle developer pls explain me in details if u have
time.


thanks and regards

- NIHAR SANGHVI

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Re: Password with special character

2001-05-11 Thread Bill Pribyl

Sinardy Xing wrote:

 Hi all,

 Can Oracle User change their password with special characters?

As with other Oracle identifiers, you have to put double quotes around the
password to include nonstandard stuff.

SQL ALTER USER SCOTT IDENTIFIED BY *^%$$# L;

User altered.

SQL CONNECT scott/*^%$$# L
Connected.

Supposedly, lower case letters aren't supported in these passwords, but
I've seen it work just fine.

Incidentally, double quotes are not supported by the SQL*Plus password
command, which is a shame.  I've logged a TAR on this problem.

Good luck
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RE: PostGres WAS: RE: Oracle 9i Articles - self tuning, launch

2001-05-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

Love it!  It's open to change.how cool.

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|| 
|| Interesting page in the docs
|| 
|| 
|| http://postgresql.readysetnet.com/users-lounge/docs/7.1/admin
|| /recovery.html
|| 
|| 
|| 
|| At 02:50 PM 05/10/2001 -0800, you wrote:
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Re:Oracle error -20001

2001-05-11 Thread dgoulet

Pat,

I could be totally off base here, but I believe that errors in the 
-2 to -20100 range are user defined via the RAISE_APPLICATION_ERROR
procedure.  That being the case you may not be able to find the error unless you
have the source code.

Dick Goulet

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Has anyone any idea what this means?

It is coming up when trying to use a procedure in a PL/SQL package to
display a web page. With some negative errors we are able to remove
them by reloading all for the application in the OAS manager but not
this one.

Searching MetaLink I come up with suggestions to patch Applications
11i or upgrade Developer 6 - neither of which are in use here. I also
came up with cause not determined.

Environment: Sun OS 5.7
 Oracle8i Enterprise Edition release 8.1.6.0.0
 OAS 4.0 - we are using a secure server

Both the package and package body are valid.

Any help in unraveling this would be greaterly appreciated.


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Re: Contigency plan

2001-05-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael

For those of us who are beyond paranoid ... and would be carrying the
tapes to the remote data center.

HEY!  I resemble that remark!

Rachel

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http://www.drj.com - disaster recovery journal

For those of us who are beyond paranoid ... and would be carrying the
tapes to the remote data center.

Paul

Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Do you guys have any good references (books or URLs) that teach some 
good
  Oracle potential problems with solutions for my contingency plan?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Sinardy
 
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RE: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread Jesse, Rich

Too much of a kill?  Not at all.  We are currently running ONAMES, and are
planning on going OID as soon as we can get some time.  OID (Oracle's LDAP)
has other benefits like being able to authenticate more than just Oracle
connections.

ONAMES is relatively easy to setup.  For your configuration, you will
probably want to have a region database (repository), as well as more than
one NAMES server running on different boxes for redundancy.  With that
setup, you can lose the region DB with no loss of service (each NAMES server
keeps a local cache which is updated periodically), or either ONAMES server
with no loss of connection for your clients.

I hate to say it, but the Java Net8 Assistant does help quite a bit in
setting up ONAMES.  That is, when it doesn't hang or crash...

When your ONAMES is setup, you will need to modify every client's SQLNET.ORA
file to tell the client to resolve database aliases thru Names.  Something
like this:

NAMES.PREFERRED_SERVERS =
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = myserver1)(PORT = 1575))
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = myserver2)(PORT = 1575))
  )

NAMES.DIRECTORY_PATH= (ONAMES)


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 From: Johnson Poovathummoottil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:15
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server
 
 
 There is another thread going on about no database on
 a single server, I have another  question to ask.
 
 We have nearly 30 databases across Sun and Win 2000
 Platforms. We are finding it tedious to  keep track of
 tnsnames.ora. While looking out for a solution we hit
 at ORACLE Names server. I hear it is going to give way
 to ORACLE Internet directory. But after reading a
 little I think using either would be too much of a
 kill for the problem. 
 
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AW: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Haunschmidt Andreas VASL/FAS

Hi:
  use the procedure:
  dbms_lock.sleep(seconds);

HTH
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 I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
 question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
 RTFMed on this one :) )
 The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
 periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
 table.
 But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
 option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
 similar
 function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.
 
 TIA
 
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RE: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server





There is one thing to be aware of. In a very large
environment, (which you may or may not have) you 
don't always want everyone to be able to connect to
everywhere. By using tnsnames.ora files, we can control
which clients are allowed to connect to which 
servers (yes, the same thing can be accomplished
using the protocol.ora file, but we prefer it 
this way).


ymmv -blah blah blah



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 for it is subtle and quick to anger.




 -Original Message-
 From: Jared Still [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:37 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server
 
 
 
 Somewhat of a pain to setup for the first time, for sure.
 
 But after you get it implemented, you will never want to
 go back.
 
 One caveat: There is a fair amount of software around
 that *requires* tnsnames.ora or it won't work. Oracle
 Forms on unix comes to mind. Yes, Oracle's own software
 does not fully utilize names.
 
 This is a minor problem when compared to the benefits though.
 
 Jared
 
 
 On Friday 11 May 2001 10:50, Mohan, Ross wrote:
  if the tediousness exceeds your perception of the 
 difficulty, do Names.
 
  if not, not.
 
  In my very limited experience, a truly robust, well-managed 
 Names service
  is great, but takes some work to set up, test, and document.
 
  YMMV
 
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  || There is another thread going on about no database on
  || a single server, I have another question to ask.
  ||
  || We have nearly 30 databases across Sun and Win 2000
  || Platforms. We are finding it tedious to keep track of
  || tnsnames.ora. While looking out for a solution we hit
  || at ORACLE Names server. I hear it is going to give way
  || to ORACLE Internet directory. But after reading a
  || little I think using either would be too much of a
  || kill for the problem.
  ||
  || Any opinions?
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Re: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Karthik Ramachandran

Try 

DBMS_LOCK.SLEEP (
seconds IN NUMBER);





Regards

Karthik Ramachandran

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/01 11:20AM 
I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
RTFMed on this one :) )
The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
table.
But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
similar
function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
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847-954-8328

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RE: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

Jared, 

You may have just earned yourself a dinner. (And I 
promise you will not receive it the way you did my 
$0.02 recently ;-)

Can you tell me more...alot more would be grand...about
how Forms needs tnsnames?

*thanks*

Ross

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|| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mohan, Ross
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|| 
|| 
|| 
|| Somewhat of a pain to setup for the first time, for sure.
|| 
|| But after you get it implemented, you will never want to
|| go back.
|| 
|| One caveat:  There is a fair amount of software around
|| that *requires* tnsnames.ora or it won't work.  Oracle
|| Forms on unix comes to mind.  Yes, Oracle's own software
|| does not fully utilize names.
|| 
|| This is a minor problem when compared to the benefits though.
|| 
|| Jared
|| 
|| 
|| On Friday 11 May 2001 10:50, Mohan, Ross wrote:
||  if the tediousness exceeds your perception of the 
|| difficulty, do Names.
|| 
||  if not, not.
|| 
||  In my very limited experience, a truly robust, 
|| well-managed Names service
||  is great, but takes some work to set up, test, and document.
|| 
||  YMMV
|| 
||  || -Original Message-
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||  || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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||  ||
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RE: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server

2001-05-11 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server





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 We have 20+ instances  this mess called PeopleSoft, so 
 keeping track of
 TNSNAMES is a real tedious thing to do. Consequently we 
 migrated to Oracle
 Names  have loved it ever since. If your going to get on 
 Onames, use either
 7.3.4's version of 8.1.6's. 8.0.x's version has way too many bugs.


I personally had the opposite experience. When I tried to set up Oracle Names, I first tried Oracle Names for Oracle NT 7.3.4. I never was successful in starting it, and when I called Oracle support the person on the phone said I've never managed to make it work either. When I tried Oracle Names 8.0 on HP-UX it worked right the very first time.

If one wanted to set it up (it's not really that much more difficult than starting up a listener), I would asking someone to provide sample configuration files (i.e. names.ora and sqlnet.ora). With examples of those two files it should be easy.

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Re: 9i Real Application Clusters

2001-05-11 Thread sheisey

Rajnedra, Oracle9i RAC is what we now call Oracle 
Parallel Server. Oracle9i RAC is still BETA, so there may 
not be any white papers at the moment. I have looked and 
have not found any white papers on RAC. 

Scott
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 Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with Oracle 9i Real
 Application Cluster stuff? If you have I'd like to hear from you about what
 it is and your insight. I think it is not out yet, some of you may have had
 the opportunity to find what it is. ...
 
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Re: Alert log

2001-05-11 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Your archiving is TRUE instead of false
Check for log_archive_start  FALSE

change this parameter to false and rebounce your database.

Regards
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DBAs

My alert.log is clogged with following message..

ARC0: received prod
ARC0: Beginning to archive log# 4 seq# 286600
ARC0: Completed archiving log# 4 seq# 286600
ARC0: re-scanning for new log files
ARC0: prodding the archiver
Fri May 11 16:10:01 2001
ARC1: received prod
Fri May 11 16:26:00 2001
LGWR: prodding the archiver
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 286602
   Current log# 1 seq# 286602 mem# 0: /hcg1/datafiles/redolog_group1.log
   Current log# 1 seq# 286602 mem# 1: /hcg2/datafiles/redolog_group1.log
Fri May 11 16:26:00 2001
ARC0: received prod
ARC0: Beginning to archive log# 5 seq# 286601
ARC0: Completed archiving log# 5 seq# 286601
ARC0: re-scanning for new log files
ARC0: prodding the archiver
Fri May 11 16:26:03 2001
ARC1: received prod

I can understand that log switch is occuring but what these ARC0 messages
doing here? I dont remember of enabling any parameter or setting for this..
Could you help me in locating the cause for these messages in alert.log..

TIA

Cheers

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Re: PL/SQL Question

2001-05-11 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen

dbms_lock.sleep will do this...

Thanks

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I need to whip out a PL/SQL procedure real quick today and have a quick
question for fellow-listers ( since today is Friday, hopefully I don't get
RTFMed on this one :) )
The purpose of my procedure is to collect stats from v$session_wait
periodically ( every second for example) and pump the data into a stats
table.
But how to make the procedure to wait for a specified time? I know of the
option of using dbms_jobs to handle this. But I am wondering if there is a
similar
function in PL/SQL similar as the Unix 'sleep' command.

TIA

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RE: RE: Silver vs. Gold support

2001-05-11 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 11 May 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-Likewise with Oracle, and other vendors - why complicate things needlessly?
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Re: Why do I still see index partitions when I dropped the

2001-05-11 Thread Ron Rogers

Cherie,
 I take it that you built your indexes as create index xxx on table(col) local
(partition x1 on tablespace 95,
partition x2 on tablespace 96..)
 then you truncated the table in the partition 95 and then dropped the partition.
If I remember correctly the index for the dropped partition is still there and
you can clean it up by using the (alter index xxx rebuild partition x1) if the 
partition still exists but is empty. In your case I think that you will have to 
rebuild the complete index again because you have changed the make-up of the table 
layout.
Updates and corrections please.
ROR mª¿ªm

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This one's got me stumped.  We are on 8.0.4 on Sun Solaris 2.6.

I have some locally indexed partitions on a table that's
partitioned by time.   I dropped the '96 and '95 partitions
of the underlying table and I no longer see them.  I used
the following statements:

alter table xx  truncate partition 95 drop storage;
alter table xx drop partition 95;

According to the documentation, the corresponding
'95 and '96 index partitions (for a locally indexed table
which I confirmed that it is using the LOCALITY column
of dba_ind_partitions) should be dropped automatically.
However, when I query dba_ind_partitions view, I can still
see them.

Documentation says I can not specifically drop index
partitions of locally indexed tables (can only do this
for globally indexed tables).  I actually tried to drop
these partitions and Oracle gave me an error message
saying I couldn't do it because it was a local index.

I thought these index partition 95 and 96 would go away.
Why do I still see them?  We will rebuild the index tonight
but I can't rebuild the whole index right now - too much
performance degredation.

I'm just curious about what is going on.   Do I need to
refresh something?   Is there anything low-impact I can
do right now to make these index partitions go away?
Do I even need to care?

Thanks for any kind soul with answers.

Cherie Machler
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RE: import from corrupted export file.

2001-05-11 Thread Scott . Shafer

ftp the file to the server again in binary mode instead of ascii...

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
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 hi all,
 how to take an import from a corrupted export file. the error message is
 abnormal end of expoort file.
 Thanks,
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Re: Oracle9i block structures

2001-05-11 Thread sheisey

Unal, What part of the block sturcture? Segment Header, 
Datablock Header? There are things in the blocks that are 
no different than they where in 6,7,8 or 8i. However with 
some of the new features such bitmap freelists, low 
highwater mark, high high waterwater, and changes to 
pctfree. There are some modifications to the block header 
and the segment header. They way rows are stored in the 
block pretty much remain the same. This is pretty much 
what I have learned to this point. 

Scott
 Hi,
 
 Do you know if Oracle9i block structures are modified ?
 
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Re: I want to re-install system, how can I backup and recover?

2001-05-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael

well if you are lucky and all the files are there, yes, backup the physical 
datafiles and when you bring the database up again, Oracle will recover.

You MAY have to open the database resetlogs.

Questions though:

is the database still up? Can you shut it down cleanly (shutdown) and then 
do a cold backup of all the files? You are golden then.

if the database is NOT up, do you run the database in archivelog or 
nonarchivelog mode.  This will determine what you have to do to 
restart/recover the database.

But no matter what take a backup of ALL the physical files on your system. 
This gives you a place to go back to if you do something incorrectly. Always 
good to have somewhere to go to start over.

Rachel


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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:35:39 -0800

hi,

Because a hacker hackered our system, I have to re-install the solaris. How
can I backup the oracle database?

Just backup all the physical files? I am not a back up and recover expert.
Please help me...

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Can I partition my primary key constraint index?

2001-05-11 Thread Cherie_Machler


Oracle will automatically create an index for your primary
key constraint.

I have a lot of large partitioned tables in my data warehouse.
All of my primary key indexes are non-partitioned.  I would
like them to be partitioned.

When I drop the constraint and re-enable it, can I specify
at that time that I want the index to be partitioned?  Or do I
need to drop my index and rebuild it to be partitioned after
the fact?

Is there any problem with having partitioned primary key indexes?

Thanks,

Cherie

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RE: Password with special character

2001-05-11 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Password with special character 





 -Original Message-
 From: Sinardy Xing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 I am using Oracle 8.1.6 Solaris 7
 Install patch bug122 for SQL*PLUS
 
 How can I change user password with special character
  alter user teddy identified by bear12#$;
 
 is not working because of 
 
  alter user teddy identified by 'bear12#$';
 
 also not working
 
 I have password_verification profile with verify_function 
 that provided by
 Oracle Administrator Guide that must at least 1 special 
 character in user
 password.



Two things:
a) the  is a special character for SQL*Plus, used for string substitution.
b) Passwords, like database object names, must be surrounded by double quotes when they contain special characters.


e.g.
SQL -- turn off  substitution
SQL set define off
SQL -- surround password by  for special char.
SQL alter user jrk identified by bear12#$ ;


User altered.


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