Re: [OGD] Save wild ochids and whales too

2005-03-30 Thread marianne.fleurimont
And stop greenland from killing polar bears!!! (GRR!)   Marianne   PS-- what to do, though, when like in Viateur's recent post, when wildlife starts eating endangered orchids??? - Original Message - From: Raphael & Chawadee Verkest To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent

Re: [OGD] My trip to the WOC (without photos)

2005-03-22 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Regarding the WOC in Dijon, I heard that orchids were confiscated from Malala Orchids and the participant left the conference within a few days of that.  Does anyone have further information on the grounds for this?    I was at the WOC in Dijon (only as orchid gazer, not attending the lectur

[OGD] Mexipedium help!

2005-01-27 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear OGDers,   I have some questions to ask about mexipediums.   I have two mexipediums each with 3-4 growths.  They have been potted in bark and sphag in small clay pots.  So far, they have been wintering indoors on the window sill, receiving temperatures going from 18C to 24C humidity betw

Re: [OGD] Tsunami ecology

2005-01-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Jerry, Viateur, and Peter, Thank you for your responses about Tsunami effects on the local environment and orchid populations. I have been away the past week, so I am sorry about responding so late. I will cherish my two little paph. niveums even more (they are in flower at the moment). I

Re: [OGD] Re: Tsunami and orchids

2005-01-06 Thread marianne.fleurimont
What are the effects of this tsunami on orchids? Has any information been gathered on the ecological effects? I am sure there must be many endangered species that are probably now on the extinction list with this massive habitat loss and the pollution of fresh water by salt water. Also, were the

Re: [OGD] Orchids and literature

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Viateur, I am familiar with Huysmans' chapter on orchids. Colette's I havent read yet. Huysmans: "This admirable artistry (artificial flowers) had long enthralled him, but now he dreamt of collecting another kind of flora: tired of artificial flowers aping real ones, he wanted some natural

Re: [OGD] Re: Dennis/Evolution

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Mr. Toletz, I believe you misread my ideas. The idea was not to discredit the Jewish religion or to support the Christian. I am only a history student and an agnostic. I only ask that people who say they believe should be consistent with their own religions, and that as Christians, those w

Re: [OGD] Re: Environmental protection

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Thank you Oliver and Sandy for the links. Marianne - Original Message - From: "Sandy Gillians" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [OGD] Re: Environmental protection > Thanks for the link, O

Re: [OGD] Evolution....

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Bravo! - Original Message - From: "e.muehlbauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 4:02 AM Subject: [OGD] Evolution > Any orchid lover should be fully appreciative of the process of > evolutionand yes, despite the label "theory", evoluti

[OGD] Kant, Beauty, and Orchid Judging

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
As to Kant: " (i) Dependent beauty appeals to the perfection of a type. The section immediately preceding §16 is entitled, "A Judgment of Taste is Wholly Independent of the Concept of Perfection." It is in part a direct response to Alexander Baumgarten,8 but it is also a powerful and sophisticat

Re: [OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 46

2004-12-17 Thread marianne.fleurimont
I can send you some quotes from Dreams of the Red Mansion pertaining to orchids... if that appeals to you. M - Original Message - From: "Mike & Candy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [OGD]

Re: [OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 46

2004-12-17 Thread marianne.fleurimont
That means we have to toss out the Bible, Kant, Hegel, Dickens, Darwin, Freud, Vasari, (even Mr. Brown) and practically everyone else who did not practice the Limmerick, the Sonnet, or the Couplet, right? That makes the discussion very easy, since most of the fuel for disagreement would be elimina

Re: [OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 46

2004-12-16 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi Mike, Would you please send me a list of orchid publications under 10 lines each? Photos will be counted in bites or pixels. They will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marianne - Original Message - From: "Mike & Candy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)" <[EMAIL

Re: [OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 46

2004-12-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Mike, For Freud: "In the form of memories, thought splinters, retained dream images, associations of ideas and other mental states, the world of a person was visualized in the setting and put into words that Freud, who was sitting outside of the field of vision of his analysand, registered w

Re: [OGD] "... Jesus himself often quoted from the Old Testament, therefore I believe it is safe to assume that he believed it, literally!"

2004-12-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
QUOTE: The Being (I think it much, much to limiting to say He or She and especially It) posses(ed)(es) - all at the same time - perfect/whole/complete Knowledge. The Being gifted this created but formless universe with a set of rules. Some choose to call them the Natural Law but I like to think of

Re: [OGD] A small request to de friends debating Evolution VsCreationism

2004-12-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Ok... lets have it once and for all: what about Goddess? :) M - Original Message - From: "Jose A. Izquierdo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: [OGD] A small request to de friends debating Evolution VsCreationism > Please ...i

[OGD] Re: Dennis/Evolution

2004-12-14 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Dennis,   Thank you for your message on the matter.  I almost meant to write one myself, but yours comes across much clearer!    What still surprises me is how people are using "religion" to further their own ends.  I would greatly appreciate it if people who do lip service to their r

Re: [OGD] Re: Dennis/Evolution

2004-12-13 Thread marianne.fleurimont
PS-- If we take everything from the Bible literally: God made Adam give all things a name. Today, we speak so many languages, there is no one name to anything. And Adam's language has long gone extinct (the Bible itself had to undergo many translations). If language can evolve, why can't living

Re: [OGD] Re: Water Quality

2004-12-13 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello,   I recently purchased a counter top R/O system.  Very simple, not so expensive.  These will remove practically all salts from water, and you can add fertilizer as you wish, without fear of burns.  You will have to adjust calcium and magniesium sometimes, but that is as easy as puttin

Re: [OGD] Dijon

2004-12-08 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi Howard,   Thanks for clearing the issue up!  I am really looking forward!   M - Original Message - From: Howard Ginsberg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: [OGD] Dijon I have been reliably informed that CITES and Phy

Re: [OGD] Dijon WOC2005

2004-12-07 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi Sandy, I will be attending the Dijon WOC as a sight-seer. I have been to Dijon several times, the city is nice, and the surroundings are outstanding for wine, food, and architecture. I cannot imagine to comment on what complaints I have read through the OGD, being absolutely inexperienced in

Re: [OGD] Article copies.

2004-11-30 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Rob,   I am so sorry about the recent quagmire surrounding copyrights and article sharing.  Being a student and finding text books rather overpriced, I am sure you all know where I stand on the issue.    Anyway:  I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your website, which is a

Re: [OGD] besseae and hybrids - articles

2004-11-26 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Thank you Viateur... now I will check whether our university library has these articles... :) M - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 11:42 PM Subject: [OGD] besseae and hybrids - articles > Marianne : > > Here is a lis

[OGD] Modern Phrag Hybrids: Books/Publications?

2004-11-25 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone,   My interests are rather clear cut: phragmipedium besseae and its related species/hybrids.    The only book I have been able to get that deals with phrags in anything like detail is Catherine Cash's Slipper Orchids.  Unfortunately, this book was written only a short while af

Re: [OGD] No Market for Paphs??

2004-11-11 Thread marianne.fleurimont
I am not sure about paphs, but I can't imagine people not liking some of the new red/pink hybrid phrags (besseae, schlimii, fischerii hybrids and species). Many people I have talked to who said they did not like slippers (including myself) finally fell for the red/pink phrags, which are closer to

[OGD] Practical CITES or moving a collection overseas

2004-10-23 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, It has been very informative (as well as confusing) reading all that you have mentioned over the CITES issue. The CITES website itself is rather confusing on how it is applied in practice. And practical application is just what I will need. >From what I have read through the Dig

Re: [OGD] Re: Threatened Eruption

2004-10-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Thanks Iris. :) Marianne - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:51 PM Subject: [OGD] Re: Threatened Eruption > In a message dated 10/15/04 8:31:44 AM, Marianne writes: > > Where? What was this? > > > Sorry I left out th

Re: [OGD] Re: CITES

2004-10-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
bject: [OGD] Re: CITES > "marianne.fleurimont" wrote: > > >Here are a few pages on what happened at the CITES convention. > > quote "The EU, ... suggested establishing a working group to discuss the > proposal." > > That's ou

Re: [OGD] Report From Denver

2004-10-14 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi Iris, Where? What was this? Thanks for enlightening me! Marianne - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 6:33 PM Subject: [OGD] Report From Denver > According to my cousin, who was there, nothing really dramatic happ

Re: [OGD] Does this say what I think it says? (EDIT)

2004-10-14 Thread marianne.fleurimont
under the eye, so I will let you judge what the outcome really is. Here is the protocol for the entire meeting: http://www.iisd.ca/cites/cop13/frep.html Good luck! M - Original Message - From: "marianne.fleurimont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "the OrchidGuide Digest (OG

Re: [OGD] Does this say what I think it says?

2004-10-14 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi, Here are a few pages on what happened at the CITES convention. Hope this helps. http://www.iisd.ca/vol21/enb2140e.html Regarding the downglisting of hybrids (postponed), vanda coerulea (approved), and cattleya trianaei (approved). So, it seems as if the rules are relaxing. M __

Re: [OGD] orchids in Madeira

2004-10-11 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi Sandy, Cant help you with madeira, but you will have no problem moving orchids around within the EU, because the EU acts economically as one state, without borders. This means orchids can travel freely between countries without CITES or phytosanitary certificates (although some inexperienced o

Re: [OGD] Re: Hello

2004-10-08 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Or could it be that your computer/email is virused to send out spam? - Original Message - From: "Li'l Frog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:24 AM Subject: RE: [OGD] Re: Hello > Dear Graphicgreg: > > Whatever

Re: [OGD] Re: Definition of a Species

2004-10-06 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi Sandy... so that's why the chinese emperor had so many of these little guys around! with a pack of those, who needs german shepherds? :) M - Original Message - From: "Sandy Gillians" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 0

Re: [OGD] Mexipedium Xerophyticum

2004-10-05 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Rina and Corrado, Thanks for the info... but I guess you would rather address Peter and Aaron, as I did not raise the issue of appendix I or appendix II plant at all. I had a look into the the conservation book (through amazon look inside), and read that like besseae, they hope commercial p

Re: [OGD] Re: Definition of a Species

2004-10-05 Thread marianne.fleurimont
now the moral question: is that good or bad for the plant in question? (or for us humans, too, for that matter! And the pekingnese... and chinese hairless...) :) M - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:28 PM Subject: [O

Re: [OGD] Mexipedium xerophyticum

2004-10-05 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Funny that it should not be on the CITES I list... but good for me, though! :) Marianne PS-- does anyone have experience moving orchids from Europe to US, not as a commercial shippment, but as a private collection relocation? (I will be moving back to the US in about four to five years, and I d

Re: [OGD] Re Mexipediums

2004-10-03 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Jerry, I would love to have a list of your plants readily available in the UK. Please send me a copy! :) Thanks a lot. Marianne PS-- I just saw your page, I was going to preorder and wait for june... but now that I can get some sooner, that would be wonderful! - Original Message --

Re: [OGD] Mexipedium xerophyticum

2004-10-02 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Viateur, Yes, I saw this one too... looks like the only one... and a little over my head price-wise (225 euros!). :( Perhaps I should go on a diet, stop buying other orchids, and wait for Spring... but then, I have to order this before the WOC in Dijon... or ask kj to bring it to the confe

[OGD] Mexipedium xerophyticum source (EU and non-EU)

2004-10-02 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, I earlier asked whether Mexipedium is sold in commerce yet. I found out: yes. Expensive, but Yes. Also, I asked for sources within the EU. I forgot to mention, I will probably be at the World Orchid Conference in Dijon March 2005 on the first weekend, so I can probably also buy p

[OGD] Are mexipediums available in the EU?

2004-10-02 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello everyone, I just saw the cutest orchid in the world, mexipedium xerophyticum. I know that this is a rather recent find, discovered in the mid 80s. I also know that it is probably not widely available yet, if at all. Does anyone know whether in the meantime, they have been propagated and b

Re: [OGD] Re: Typos

2004-09-20 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Mr. Baker, I am a user of your culture on demand service, which I am very thankful for. Taking a look through for some of my new plants today, I found that (unless my eyes need checking) you have a curious lack of phragmipediums on your site: not even one. Am I just not seeing them, or are

Re: [OGD] Mesurol in pellet form?

2004-09-20 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hi Karen, Thanks... do I know you by any chance??? :) M - Original Message - From: "Karen Frederiksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [OGD] Mesurol in pellet form? > <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[OGD] Mesurol in pellet form?

2004-09-20 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, Thank you for your response to my Mesurol dosing question. However, it seems as if you are using a white powder on your plants to be dilluted in water. What I got was from the drug company Bayer for garden use on edible plants (strawberries, salads, etc), and came in a dark blue

Re: [OGD] Bush Snails, Caffeine and a Bit of Rambling History

2004-09-20 Thread marianne.fleurimont
How true, DaveK! :) Enjoyed the gentleman and his potato deficiency! Now, if only my snails would take example! Marianne - Original Message - From: "Davek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [OGD] Bush Snails, Caffeine an

Re: [OGD] bush snails and Mesurol

2004-09-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, I found some Mesurol for slugs (and snails, I assume) in the local garden centers. On the label it says poison... so I assume it should be VERY strong. Unfortunately, I found this in a German shop, and the instruction manual is in German... and I understand extremely little of wh

Re: [OGD] Re: The Typographic Error

2004-09-16 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Thank you Iris, for the ticklish bit. :) (made me smile) M - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 3:30 PM Subject: [OGD] Re: The Typographic Error > In a message dated 9/16/04 7:59:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes:

Re: [OGD] Snails and Merusol

2004-09-16 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Dave, Thanks for the correction. I remembered the name wrong (bad memory, new chemical names... obviously I am a newby!) :) Thanks again everyone. M - Original Message - From: "Davek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:37 AM Subjec

[OGD] Snails and Merusol

2004-09-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello To all those who kindly replied to my snail mail. Since most of you re-emailed me recommending Merusol, I will go and try to find it in the garden center. I am not sure about its availability, but I will do my best. Thank you again for your advice. I appreciate it very much. Sincerely,

[OGD] Tree Fern and Unwaranted Attacks: My disappointment!

2004-09-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear OGD subscribers: I am very disappointed and saddened to find that my friendly response to an inquery after sources for tree fern in the EU had caused unwaranted attacks on the person who was offering LEGAL tree fern pots to members on my orchid forum as well as other orchid growers in the EU.

Re: [OGD] Re: bush snails

2004-09-15 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, Thank you for your advice on the bush snails. I will repot all the suspected plants in new media, and soak my plants bare root in insecticide (or diet soda... depends on how adventurous I am), then use a tooth brush to dislodge any eggs or baby snails still clinging to the roots (

Re: [OGD] tree fern in the UK ?

2004-09-14 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Viateur, On the UK and EU Orchid Forum, there is someone currently selling tree fern pots... so it seems as if tree fern is available and still importable to the EU. Here is the link: http://www.rob-rah.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=131 Just in case this link doesnt work, I include the text o

[OGD] Boarding services in France or neighbouring countries?

2004-09-14 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, I am an american student studying in France, and my orchid collection numbers around 50 plants. I would like to know whether there are boarding services for orchids in France or nearby EU countries, where I could send my plants to when I am back in the US for extended vacations.

[OGD] Bush Snails, Help!

2004-09-13 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, I just found colonies of bush snails in my new plants. 1/4 of my 44 orchids seem to be infected, and I have no idea how to control these small pets. I have been putting potato slices on the tops of the pots, but this only catches a few snails. My main concern is the fact that th

[OGD] Difference between Phragmipediums and Paphiopedilums

2004-09-09 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone, I just bought my first Paphs and Phrags. I always told myself I would not get into slipper orchids, because (to me) they were rather unattractive (the browns, purples, and greens). Well, I saw my first Phrag. besseae, and that struck me to the heart (and wallet). Now I have: 2

Re: [OGD] Dactylorhiza hardiness?

2004-09-09 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Mr. David S., Dactylorrhizas are hardy, as I have seen them in zone 7 and 6 up to 2500 meters above sea level. These areas get high snow in winter time, and very cold winds. (I am speaking of the Vosges, Black Forest, and the Swiss Alps). The most common species we have in Europe are: D. i

Re: [OGD] Temperatures for Chinese Cymbidiums

2004-09-08 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Mr. Baker, Thank you very much for your help! I am flattered! Your culture sheets online are a great resource for me since I started growing orchids (in March this year). I have almost exhausted my 30 sheet subscription, and will be very happy to subscribe to another 30! Thank you again.

Re: [OGD] Are orchids parasites?

2004-09-07 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Sandy, >From various sources (online and in books) I have come to understand the following: 1) Most orchids need fungus to germinate. This is a fight of life and death. If the fungus is too strong, it can kill the seed. If the seed can keep the fungus in check, it survives and grows. 2)

[OGD] Hello! New to list: Chinese Cymbidiums

2004-09-06 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Hello Everyone! I am new to this list, and rather new to orchids, too! My name is Marianne, and I live in Eastern France. I have been growing orchids since March this year. I currently have about 45 orchids, mostly species. My most loved among them are: 1) Vanda coerulea (blue and pink) 2) Co