Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-14 Thread Scott Barnes
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:38 PM, David Connors wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote: > >> David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" >> .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are >> hell bent on abstracting de

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-14 Thread Scott Barnes
ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer > blogosphere) > > > > David: I think the words

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote: > David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" > .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are > hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as > possible because

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread GregAtGregLowDotCom
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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Preet Sangha
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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread David Burstin
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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Stephen Price
> > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax > > SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barne

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread GregAtGregLowDotCom
zdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere) David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" .. I object strongly to a languag

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Williams, Thomas
Scott Barnes Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere) David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by fram

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Scott Barnes
David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as possible because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve. Had JS

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Greg Keogh
> > JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that > matter. > I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable > and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are > staggering. > So it was you who poetically said last year "JavaSc

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote: > better, faster? O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than > WPF? . > I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better. JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that matter. I used to hate JS with a passion,

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Scott Barnes
either all - does it matter either way? In closing - JavaScript is the digital age’s version of herpes, every time you think its gone a new outbreak occurs – DHTML, AJAX, “HTML5″ --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote: > Doe

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
Does it even matter when for browser apps one of them is DOA? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote: > better, faster? O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than > WPF? . > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:02

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Scott Barnes
better, faster? O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than WPF? . --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:02 AM, David Connors wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Scott Barnes wrote: > >> *Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread David Connors
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Scott Barnes wrote: > *Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *stares at .NET Developers* > ...i figure if all you really did was change the namespaces out and strip > away the Windows 8 Start menu shit, you're back to Win7 and WPF crap would > work..only de

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-13 Thread Scott Barnes
*Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *stares at .NET Developers* ...i figure if all you really did was change the namespaces out and strip away the Windows 8 Start menu shit, you're back to Win7 and WPF crap would work..only devs would be clueless that the rendering pipeline was changed.

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread David Connors
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Scott Barnes wrote: > I'm hoping he's behind the WPF reboot rumours i'm hearing more and more > of. > WPF Reboot? I for one can't wait for 2 gigabyte of RAM footprint calculator applications and my GPU shitting itself trying to draw a green square at 3fps. Rich

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread Joseph Cooney
d > XAML initially. > > > -- > > Ian Thomas > Victoria Park, Western Australia > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:28 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subje

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread ILT (O)
: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere) inline (but not const) On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM, ILT (O) wrote: Silverlight “end-of-life” is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my reading (eg, just today – Visual Studio Magazine

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread mike smith
inline (but not const) On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM, ILT (O) wrote: > Silverlight “end-of-life” is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my > reading (eg, just today – Visual Studio Magazine – “*Satya Nadella's > To-Do List*” > [link

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread David Kean
Silverlight/Jupiter (Windows XAML) started under ScottGu. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:00 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread Scott Barnes
Yeah you need to move on from Silverlight that ship sailed in 2009 and even if they wanted to put that broken toy back together again, it would be likely back under the hood of "WPF" (which is apparently today what they did by putting the WPF band "back together" - how or what that looks like is so

Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

2014-02-12 Thread ILT (O)
Silverlight "end-of-life" is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my reading (eg, just today - Visual Studio Magazine - "Satya Nadella's To-Do List" [link ] - Andrew Brust). There are several offerings of adv