I just thought you must have fallen asleep on the send
button!!
Jackie
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From:
Dean
Jo
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:31
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff
up!
I am sooo sorry this has
It
certainly got our attention though!!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 10 September 2004 3:58
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[ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up!
I just thought you must have fallen asleep on the send
Is it any wonder when Panadol is so colourfully advertised and welcomed as a sponsor
for things related to children.
My kids hate the stuff, they refuse to take it.
Megan
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Dear Kirsten and Tanya, I was part of the team who developed BMid from its inception
in Victoria, when Tasmania wanted to be part of it. In the very beginning I was in
Tasmania and at that time University of Tas looked like it would continue as part of
the consortium of universities in Victoria
Yeah well it was in fact a cunning marketing plan
that I had concocted! I liked the falling asleep on the send button
reason! THAT I could probably be guilty of!
I have changed computors and updated my address
book and so I can only assume the stuff up came from there. I ran a virus
Maybe this could deter illegal drug use in pregnancy though...
I agree that this is what they are trying to do, but it still seems ironic,
that a woman can choose to have her baby killed but a woman can't
accidentally kill her baby by drug use.
I know we all have differing views on abortion,
Honey,
I'm a 3rd BMid (yes, direct entry) student at UniSA. On the whole, our
placements at various venues have been positive and encouraging, with the
odd ear bashing about 'why don't you do your RN, then do your mid'. My
feeling is that the negativity aimed at students is mainly due to change. I
Hi all, I have just come across the book Spiritual Midwifery at the op shop.
What do others think of it, if you know the book by Ina May Gaskin? Thanks
Fiona
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I think the point here is viability of the baby - note I'm not
agreeing/disagreeing with any of this.
Regards
Jayne
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Grab it while you can :) It is a great find in an op shop!
Personally I love the book.
Jayne
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From: Fiona Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:34 PM
Hi all, I have just come across the book Spiritual
Spiritual Midwifery was considered THE book in alternate midwifery
practices during the 1970's
I haven't looked at it in the last 10 years or so but it would be depend
on what you are interested in. Modern Midwifery it is not!
The farm where Ina May Gaskin practised would now be considered
Yes I did and more!!
marilyn
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From:
Kirsten Blacker
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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:31
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] National
Caesarean Awareness Day 2004
did everyone else get this a
dozenttimes?
I think all women experiencing the loss of a baby, whether intentional
(Abby, please don't talk of women killing their babies in violent
ways, the potential for distress is so great for what is an agonising choice)
or accidental, require our compassion and respect. Women's circumstances
dictate
Women who choose to have their babies killed do so at a time when the
fetus is not yet viable. If this woman had had an abortion at 32 weeks she
would equally have been charged...
While I do not like the idea of abortion, and I abhor the casual way some
women seem to use it as an alternative
I loved the book, some of the language is funny...but i loved the way they
birthed.
Kirsten
~~~start life with a midwife~~~
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From: Fiona Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:04 PM
Hi all, I have just come
That is the point of the charge! The state of Oklahoma is actually setting
up a challenge to Roe vs Wade (the USA Federal case that set precedent for
abortion rights is the USA). First the state passes a law then they have to
charge someone with it then it will be appealed prolly all the way to
Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly published CBE
book called Ina May's guide to childbirth which is a good read. The Farm
midwives still practice, in fact many women with twins or breeches on board
will travel to The Farm to birth in one of the birthing cabins. The
Dear Jo
I do not understand the mentality of working in
large production line services so I can not shed any light.
Denise Hynd
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For,
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead
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And 'all fours' is called the Gaskin Manoeuvre when discussing strategies for
dealing with shoulder dystocia because of her work in mapping and measuring the
pelvis It's interesting that the groundbreakers of yesteryear are sometimes
viewed with mild amusement or as eccentrics (a bit like
Trish
Beautifully put
Thank you
Denise Hynd
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For,
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead
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Trish David
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Sent: Friday, September 10,
Dear All,
I have been with many women who have had abortions for many reasons and in
my expereince they do not enter in to it as coldly and wilfully!
Even if they did I find it hard to believe that any just get over it, most
carry pain, particuarly late terminations are not easy as they labour
Dear Claudia
i have seen pregnant women get huge amounts of drugs on presription in
hospitals here in Australia as the staff and the system put these women in
the too hard basket.
But I did/do wonder if the system was not fragmented and such women got
continuity of care (and the midwife looking
InaMay came to the last Homebirth conference in Perth several years ago and
she was very enlightening.
She and the Farm midwives are very informative and open to many influences
including research which they contribute to .
InaMay has done alot in regard to the benefits of turning onto all 4 for
Try
http://www.midwiferyworkshops.org/index.html
Denise Hynd
"Never believe that a few caring people can't
change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever
have." Margaret Mead
Hi everyone
I found these links
http://www.thefarmcommunity.com/inamay.htm
http://www.withwoman.co.uk/contents/info/inamay.html
I found them very interesting to read.
Katrina :-)
On 10/09/2004, at 7:47 PM, Denise Hynd wrote:
InaMay came to the last Homebirth conference in Perth several years
ago
Thanks Kirsten, Its great to be here, and thanks for the words of
encouragement everyone, just what I needed (I know I am doing the right
thing). Tanya
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Date: Fri,
My view is, whilst I don't condone illicit drug use, or in fact ANY
persisitant drug use, during pregnancy, surely we should be looking at why
these women succumb in the first place. Many women have been taking drugs
for a long time, many were sexually or physically abused as children, drugs
were
Exactly! Also many meet Ina May these days and seem to take on some idea
that she is some kind of nun and a member of some strict religious group.
From talking with her I would say hardly, not ever. She is definetly a
gentle soul still exceptionally passionate about birthing, the environment
and
Does anyone who has managed to get onto this new website
have any idea what the difference is between the Tote Bag and the
Midwife Tote Bag both look exactly the same,
measure the same, but cost different!!! I cant see why..
Wendy
Dear friends,
I met Ina May Gaskin already in two congresses of Midwifery Today and I will
meet her again in oktober in the next congres in Germany. She is a very good
midwife in heart, mind and hands. I followed her workhops on
shoulderdystocia and last year I had a homebirth of a third child
First National Doula conference is Here..Sept
1819join us for a wonderful weekend of sharing birth infobelly
dancing, drumming and good food! Woman
are gathering from all over Australia.email me for more info or
get you rego forms in if you already havent Fort hose waiting for the
Dear Sally and All
A lovely considered response.
I have had some exposure to chronic drug users (whilst I was an adviser to a
politician, we were trying to set up a heroin trial!!).
What stands out in relation to drug use is it pretty much boils down to risk
taking behaviour (more often young
Hi Trish,
I'm out here in cyberland basically enjoying the ozmid chats and
occasionally participating when the mood strikes me. I remain at the Alex in
the KYM scheme in Hobart. Tanya feel free to contact me offline if you wish.
Trish's idea of joining ACMI is a wonderful way to meet some of
Hi everybody
I'm considering moving myself and family to NZ to do my grad mid program. If
anybody has some contacts over there who may be able to shed some light on
opportunities, where to go etc etc I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
Tania
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There is a NZ Midwifery e-group similar to this one that I am sure you would
be able to join:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nzmidwives/
I think that there may also be a student one... I'll try to find out...
Best wishes
Vida
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Hi Tania
I am from NZ and now living here so what precisely would you like to know?
There are ample opportunities in NZ, more in rural areas where midwives are a bit scarce - both in indpendent practice, birth centres or tertiary hospitals. When you say grad mid program, are you meaning
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