: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support
Barb ,
I am in awe that you have been able to do so much great work after this
trauma and the effects that it must have had on you,
Hugs
Pinky
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herwise holds no weight. J
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I believe there is
5 February 2006 6:24 PM
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Barb,
So sorry to hear you have had such a shocking time. I can offer no tips,
not having been there myself but I pray that there will come a time that
you can settle into more normal pre-trau
nees rather than the
> lifestyle
> >operation that is true OFP) Talking therapies are pretty much
> the only
> >"cure" for PTSD and that's been well demonstrated over and
> over. The
> >one study showing otherwise holds no weight. J
> >
> >-
In WA now the med students (student
doctors) in their training attend a SPEC (student pelvic examination clinic) supervised
by midwives but the teaching is done by volunteer women (teaching associates)
who not only teach the students as they perform the taking of a history, breast,
abdo, p
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Dear Barb, what a truly shocking experience. I am so sorry. I completely
agree with you though. Some women in Accessing Artemis have had great
results with EFT - emotional freedom technique - which I haven't tried
yet. I also
n the
reruns in my head. Stopped them immediately I took the drops!
Best wishes to you,
J
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> There is no 'cure' f
ne study showing otherwise holds no weight. J
>
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's good to tap into all this wonderful midwifery wisdom.
Sue
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing"Edmund Burke
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Jo, you're speaking from my
heart as well. I was at a meeting last year of women working to support others
i
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> I am sure that debriefing helps even if it does not cure. I
> remember one particular woman at my previous place of work who
> rang me
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I also was surprised
at the outcomes of the study. One of the great benefits of being a community
midwife is the opp
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Interestingly last year our South Australian Gov held
an inquiry into post natal depression and direct links to birth- cs
specifically. I sat there and listened to a private OB who said "none of
my patients are unhappy with their cs".
how
would he know? when does he as
ly work for another. If you did try to treat them the
> same it would
> not be surprising if it did not work.
> Nicole Carver.
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HI Mary,
I remember reading
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I believe there is
some research out there that looked at de-briefing women after birth,
particularly traumati
"Any suggestions. Should all women have a follow up appointment with the
midwife who was at her birth, is this appropriate as they may have been part of
the problem, should all women have a follow up appointment but the woman be
allowed to choose who she wants the appointment with, at what st
ary trauma. To
me it's like getting counselling from your rapist.
J
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Talking therapies may be the only "cure", t
otherwise holds no
>weight.
>J
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Yeh, Janet but how do we make talking therapies available to the women who need them and who do you see is the person who should be providing this 'therapy' and whenAndreaOn 04/02/2006, at 11:19 AM, Janet Fraser wrote:I remember it but I disagree with it entirely. It struck me as no more logical an
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I believe there is
some research out there that looked at de-briefing women after birth,
particularly traumatic births. As I remember it, the research did not
show that this debriefing had
I believe there is some research out there
that looked at de-briefing women after birth, particularly traumatic births.
As I remember it, the research did not show that this debriefing had particularly
helpful outcomes. Of course it is all in the Who, the When and the How. Does anyone
re
Janet & JoI can only speak about the places I have worked where the vast majority of midwives are mothers and choose to work part time. If you are with a woman in labour and or attend her LUSCS you may not even get to see her again during her stay. She will see a different midwife/s each shift and
regards,
Nicole
Carver,
Midwife.
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the subject of traumatized
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Jo, you're
speaking from my heart as well. I was at a meeting last year of women working
to support others in birth trauma. All of us had been suicidal at one point,
myself included, none of us had had any support from careproviders.
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I
think it is ESSENTIAL for midwives and consumer groups to be working together
on this one. Amazingly enough, many complaints we hear about are from
women who feel their midwife let them down. Interesting issue (
about how we as a
society are caring for our future.
*sigh*
love
Jo
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Can I just throw in the question: what strategies do you as a care
provider offer those women who birth by cs, especially those who wanted
a natural birth or having their first baby, in order to minimize the
chances of an adverse emotional outcome? Is there any 'thing' in
particular that you have
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