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2006-02-10 Thread B & G
: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support Barb , I am in awe that you have been able to do so much great work after this trauma and the effects that it must have had on you, Hugs Pinky - Original Message - From: "B & G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006

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2006-02-09 Thread pinky mckay
herwise holds no weight. J - Original Message - From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Mary Murphy To: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:58 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support I believe there is

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2006-02-05 Thread B & G
5 February 2006 6:24 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support Barb, So sorry to hear you have had such a shocking time. I can offer no tips, not having been there myself but I pray that there will come a time that you can settle into more normal pre-trau

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2006-02-05 Thread Judy Chapman
nees rather than the > lifestyle > >operation that is true OFP) Talking therapies are pretty much > the only > >"cure" for PTSD and that's been well demonstrated over and > over. The > >one study showing otherwise holds no weight. J > > > >-

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2006-02-04 Thread Kate Reynolds
In WA now the med students (student doctors) in their training attend a SPEC (student pelvic examination clinic) supervised by midwives but the teaching is done by volunteer women (teaching associates) who not only teach the students as they perform  the taking of a history, breast, abdo, p

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2006-02-04 Thread B & G
: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support Dear Barb, what a truly shocking experience. I am so sorry. I completely agree with you though. Some women in Accessing Artemis have had great results with EFT - emotional freedom technique - which I haven't tried yet. I also

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2006-02-04 Thread Janet Fraser
n the reruns in my head. Stopped them immediately I took the drops! Best wishes to you, J - Original Message - From: "B & G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support > There is no 'cure' f

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2006-02-04 Thread B & G
ne study showing otherwise holds no weight. J > >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Mary Murphy >To: ><mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au >Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:58 AM >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post

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2006-02-04 Thread Susan Cudlipp
's good to tap into all this wonderful midwifery wisdom.   Sue   "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Dean & Jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday

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2006-02-04 Thread Honey Acharya
sage - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support Jo, you're speaking from my heart as well. I was at a meeting last year of women working to support others i

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2006-02-04 Thread Janet Fraser
From: "Judy Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support > I am sure that debriefing helps even if it does not cure. I > remember one particular woman at my previous place of work who > rang me

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2006-02-04 Thread Dean & Jo
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 7:45 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support   I also was surprised at the outcomes of the study. One of the great benefits of being a community midwife is the opp

[ozmidwifery] Post cs support

2006-02-04 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Interestingly last year our South Australian Gov held an inquiry into post natal depression and direct links to birth- cs specifically.  I sat there and listened to a private OB who said "none of my patients are unhappy with their cs".   how would he know?  when does he as

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2006-02-04 Thread Judy Chapman
ly work for another. If you did try to treat them the > same it would > not be surprising if it did not work. > Nicole Carver. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary > Murphy > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:59

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2006-02-04 Thread Mary Murphy
through.MM From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Nicole Carver Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2006 3:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support   HI Mary, I remember reading

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2006-02-03 Thread Nicole Carver
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:59 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support I believe there is some research out there that looked at de-briefing women after birth, particularly traumati

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2006-02-03 Thread Janet Fraser
"Any suggestions. Should all women have a follow up appointment with the midwife who was at her birth, is this appropriate as they may have been part of the problem, should all women have a follow up appointment but the woman be allowed to choose who she wants the appointment with, at what st

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2006-02-03 Thread Janet Fraser
ary trauma. To me it's like getting counselling from your rapist. J - Original Message - From: "Jo Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support Talking therapies may be the only "cure", t

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2006-02-03 Thread Jo Bourne
otherwise holds no >weight. >J > >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Mary Murphy >To: <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au >Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:58 AM >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs suppor

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2006-02-03 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Yeh, Janet but how do we make talking therapies available to the women who need them and who do you see is the person who should be providing this 'therapy' and whenAndreaOn 04/02/2006, at 11:19 AM, Janet Fraser wrote:I remember it but I disagree with it entirely. It struck me as no more logical an

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2006-02-03 Thread Janet Fraser
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:58 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support I believe there is some research out there that looked at de-briefing women after birth, particularly traumatic births.  As I remember it, the research did not show that this debriefing had

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2006-02-03 Thread Mary Murphy
I believe there is some research out there that looked at de-briefing women after birth, particularly traumatic births.  As I remember it, the research did not show that this debriefing had particularly helpful outcomes.  Of course it is all in the Who, the When and the How.  Does anyone re

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2006-02-03 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Janet & JoI can only speak about the places I have worked where the vast majority of midwives are mothers and choose to work part time. If you are with a woman in labour and or attend her LUSCS you may not even get to see her again during her stay. She will see a different midwife/s each shift and

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2006-02-03 Thread Nicole Carver
regards, Nicole Carver, Midwife. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of adamnamySent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 2:17 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support On the subject of traumatized

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2006-02-03 Thread adamnamy
@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support   Jo, you're speaking from my heart as well. I was at a meeting last year of women working to support others in birth trauma. All of us had been suicidal at one point, myself included, none of us had had any support from careproviders.

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2006-02-03 Thread Janet Fraser
ruary 03, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support I think it is ESSENTIAL for midwives and consumer groups to be working together on this one.  Amazingly enough, many complaints we hear about are from women who feel their midwife let them down.  Interesting issue (

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2006-02-03 Thread Dean & Jo
about how we as a society are caring for our future.   *sigh*    love Jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:58 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pos

[ozmidwifery] Post cs support

2006-01-25 Thread Dean & Jo
Can I just throw in the question: what strategies do you as a care provider offer those women who birth by cs, especially those who wanted a natural birth or having their first baby, in order to minimize the chances of an adverse emotional outcome? Is there any 'thing' in particular that you have