Is there a function you can call in CW to get a stack dump
while executing
the program. In other words what I want is a function like:
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is an
ANSI compiler anywhere that has a call to dump the contents of the stack. I
am
For a App, it can be debugged in emulator by CW setting. how about a
hack? how to debug it? The hack is called by OS, can I debug OS ?
Eric
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Dear Palm OS (R) platform developers,
Today Palm, Inc. is announcing two new products: the Palm m100 (TM)
handheld and the Palm VIIx (TM) handheld. A developer-oriented
description of them can be found at
http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/palmhardware/details.html and we expect
essentially all of
Hehehe, so I guess what we saw on ZD weren't that far from true.these
things are just butt ugly!
I mean, it sorta looks like a PalmV, but then it looks like it was made by
the same aliens in the movie "The Abyss"...like play-dough.
Anyways, I am glad to see the PalmVIIx is out. That is
I ran into the limitation of the Dynamic UI, i.e. there's no dynamic table,
menu, etc.
To get around that, can one dynamically create a form resource (complete
with the table, menu, etc.) and then load the form from the freshly created
dynamic resource? If so, does the resource has to be
Jim Schram wrote:
masked ROM units have no serial number, or may
have a partial serial number identifying only
the manufacturing
Why not spend the extra $0.25 and put one of
those spiffy Dallas unique ID chips in the box?
I know it would sure make my life easier to
have access to a unique
I saw the announcement before lunch today and what do I find at Fry's? A
brand new shipment... they must have had 20-40 each of IIIc's, V's, Vx's,
and the new Palm VIIx's...
Wonder how the story might have gotten leaked to ZDNet? You think that kind
of timing (to have it on shelves and announce
Hello,
When I call FrmReturnToForm in my app I get different behavior depending on
the OS version I run on. For OS 3.5 when I call it the active form closes
and the OS sends an update form notice to the open form behind it. In OS
versions older than 3.5 when I call FrmReturnToForm the active
Hello all...
I have a field control with text in it. I takes up 3 of the 4 lines.
Is there a way I can get the 'n'th line of text. IE, I need to get the 2nd
or 3rd line of text in that field control.
TIA!
Ralph Krausse
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If anyone from Palm reads this please sort it out.
I have sent four emails to devinfo on the same subject over the last 3
weeks, with no reply. I have contacted the european sales, who seem to have
failed to get a response for me.
The Problem:
I am a licenced HDK developer (I have the signed
Bryan Batchelder wrote:
Hehehe, so I guess what we saw on ZD weren't that far from true.these
things are just butt ugly!
I mean, it sorta looks like a PalmV, but then it looks like it was made by
the same aliens in the movie "The Abyss"...like play-dough.
Anyways, I am glad to see
Just Drag the prc file on the emulator.
Only on Windows. Remember, the emulator works on other
OS' besides
Windows...
Drag-and-drop works to load a .prc on a Mac, as well. Just FYI...
-hkmlt
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Heather Tufts wrote:
Just Drag the prc file on the emulator.
Only on Windows. Remember, the emulator works on other
OS' besides
Windows...
Drag-and-drop works to load a .prc on a Mac, as well. Just FYI...
But not on Unix/Linux.
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Below is a copy of the announcement of the new m100 and Palm 7x devices that are
being released from Palm, Inc.(TM) today. If you are a memebr of the developer
program you will be receiving this by email as well.
-Ezekiel Sanborn de Asis
Palm Developer Support
I hate being made to look uninformed in front of customers. I provide custom
software solutions to them and they look to me to be the expert on all
things Palm. When they show me the ZDNet article and ask if I know any more,
I'm left looking like just some pretender off the street.
In this case
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Bradly J. Barton wrote:
rant
I hate being made to look uninformed in front of customers. I provide custom
software solutions to them and they look to me to be the expert on all
things Palm. When they show me the ZDNet article and ask if I know any more,
I'm left looking
We also have tech support headaches with our Symbols (since they
pack L-Ion batteries, and they have a kind of big, rounded
form factor), with people who already have the ordinary Palms. It
requires that they either alternate their serial ports and have
two cradles hooked up, or swap them every
In article 20069@palm-dev-forum, Richard Anderson wrote:
Hi,
If my application is running but doing nothing except displaying a label on
a form, how often do I get events, I would have thought that I would get
quite a lot of system events etc, but I appear to hardly get any (less than
one every
There is no such function in the Palm OS API or SDK. However, you could
certainly write such a function. But why? What have you got against debuggers,
which give you this information on a plate?
-- Keith
Oliver King-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/05/2000 10:26:52 AM
Please respond to
What do these new devices mean to developers? Nothing, nada,
zip, zilch, zero. They still have the same OS, same RAM, same buttons,
same graffiti. It's mostly a new case.
With a NotePad application that simulates the same function as Jot did.
That's a bonus with people who struggle with
If you were a PC software vendor, would your customers expect you to know
all the details of Intel's newest chip? If you were an auto salesman, do
you think it's reasonable to think that they would know all the specifics
of a new line before it was announced? How about a biotech company?
Hello,
I want to add color to my application.
What is the easiest way to learn how to do it?
Where can I find the list of main differences between 3.0 and 3.5?
What are the differences between PalmOS 3.5 and 3.5.2?
Dan
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Do You Yahoo!?
The debuggers are great. But when I am running gremilins an assert fires
off in the middle of the night, it would be useful to know what the call
stack was, since the code just keeps running.
At 05:58 PM 8/5/00 -0700, you wrote:
There is no such function in the Palm OS API or SDK. However,
You tell em Dave.
At 05:08 PM 8/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
It means a lot if you depend on the Palm form factor so your product can
attach properly. My minimum system cost just went up $100 now that the IIIe
is being discontinued and the next cheapest Palm that accepts the standard
modem case is
Hi,
I think it would be better to free what you allocated, using the "Free"
function.
Hoping it helps you,
Raffaella
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I call the following code in my call to EvtGetEvent, but I think it does not
work because there are not many events going off and calling this function
and updating it. If I return 0 instead of evtWaitForever, it works but then
crashes with a fatal exception (on the hardware only, works fine
From: Bradly J. Barton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
What do I want from Palm? I'd like to see an announcement
like today's...
only a couple weeks before they actually hit the shelves. Included in
today's excellent announcement was information that it would
not affect
current
A developer-oriented
description of them can be found at
http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/palmhardware/details.html
Is the serial connector the same as the Palm V? From the scant details on
this page I take it the answer is no. Joining forces with Dave
Lippincott, I think it's quite
I agree. PalmOS is getting increasingly complex and each new device adds
to the 'special cases' we developers have to deal with. Additionally I
don't believe there has even been a bug free version of the PalmOS (mind
you Palm are not alone in this field ;)).
Preventing a problem prior to release
Dinesh,
The SDK docs say to "send a message" and if no reply comes back (due to a
time out) then you are not connected. Thats a pretty crappy test, but thats
all i know of. If you get an answer to this question, let me know too -- i
posted a similar question but got no replies. Good luck.
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A quick newbie question. I am just starting to do Palm development. I am
using Windows 98 with Cygwin GCC, PRC-Tools, PilRC, and the SDK-3.5. I
pulled
all of the files from the palmos web page. I thought I understood how to
put
them all together, but I am having problems with the PRC-Tools
Brian Mathis wrote in message 20055@palm-dev-forum...
I guess I don't understand why people expect Palm to release internal
information to *anyone*. If you're a developer, why should you get any
special treatment?
Because they want developers to support their new products.
I think Palm has
Bradly J. Barton wrote in message 20068@palm-dev-forum...
...
What do I want from Palm? I'd like to see an announcement like today's...
only a couple weeks before they actually hit the shelves. Included in
today's excellent announcement was information that it would not affect
current software.
is it possible to take a checksum of parts or even whole of the
code? if possible, I can prevent my code get corrupt.
Eric
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Dennis Koerner wrote:
one more time I have to ask this. If there is no way to read out the number
on the back, how come the launcher Info(Version) brings this number on the
display
It can't in all cases. You happen to have a FLASHable device where the serial
number in the FLASH memory
for a App, I can debug on Emulator using CW6 target setting. How
about the debugging for a hack? the hack us called by system, does it
mean I need to debug a system?
Eric
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Richard Hartman wrote:
When the rumor hit ZDNet, I think Palm should have stepped up within a few
days of that story and made the official announcement..
Not necessarily an announcement to the public. But they should not have
continued denying the existance of these
I would like to apologize to the Palm representatives (especially David
Fedor) for the vehemence of my response earlier today. I now believe
that it was due to a misreading of a key phrase.
David said:
A developer-oriented
description of them can be found at
The problem is that it's a bitmap, and not a symbol from one
of the fonts. The corruption that occurred due to the wrong
symbol appearing (and leading to somewhat embarrassing, yet
slightly humorous stories...I ran into it, too, and it made me
seem like a horrendous speller) was the bug in
One more question - is the data format specification of the new NotePad
published (as the others are via the published source code for MemoPad,
ToDo list, etc.)? Because there are many of us I'm sure, not just those
involved with hardware, who need that information for our apps.
Steve Patt
Latest eWeek magazine, arriving today, says the serial connector on the
m100 is "the same as those in other Palm devices." However the
information on palmos.com says, "Serial: pin order is the same as the
Palm IIIx, however, the size and shape is new."
Which is correct?
Steve Patt
Bob Whiteman wrote:
From: Bradly J. Barton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
What do I want from Palm? I'd like to see an announcement
like today's...
only a couple weeks before they actually hit the shelves. Included in
today's excellent announcement was information that it would
It would also be nice (but not entirely necessary) to see POSE skins for these
new devices released to developers on the day of the hardware release.
Skins? Skins are more important to you than emulation of the hardware? Good to
know...
-- Keith Rollin
-- Palm OS Emulator engineer
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BTW the idea of using a plastic screen is very appealing.
We've had 'em in the Symbol SPT 1700 series, and they're great! Ours
has glare reduction, so no using it like a mirror...but it's really
nice to read and do signature capture/drawing on.
Some of the new features remind me just a
Florent Pillet wrote:
I'm trying to determine the memory bus width on various Palm models, to be
able to optimize large data transfers (i.e. using move.w or move.l
instructions) but did not find any information about it.
Anybody knows where I can get this information?
Poking at the
I believe it was Alan Pinstein maybe, who described a way to do
this, and it works very well. Maybe you can find it in the
archives under his name, or if not, I can send you the details.
Rick Bram
For a app, it can be debugged in Emulator in CW6 by settting the
Connection setting. how
Adam Wozniak:
I fail to see the difference between what you propose and what actually
happened.
The difference is that Palm let the rumor mill churn for more than a month
between the ZDNet article and the official release. They told us they were
just rumors and to not worry about it. In short,
(Although I use the emulator as a selling support mechanism sometimes...
our clients like to play with our gadgets, but sometimes we don't have
them in house...bet you haven't realized it could be used for that yet!)
Actually, that's one of Poser's stated goals.
-- Keith Rollin
-- Palm OS
Eric wrote:
is it possible to take a checksum of parts or even whole of the
code? if possible, I can prevent my code get corrupt.
Checksums might detect corruption, but will not prevent it.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would also be nice (but not entirely necessary) to see POSE skins for these
new devices released to developers on the day of the hardware release.
Skins? Skins are more important to you than emulation of the hardware? Good to
know...
I said nice. I assume
I assume there's nothing really new in the hardware that needs a change in
the emulator. If I'm wrong, and had to choose between skins and real emulator
code, I'd choose the emulator changes.
Yes, you're wrong. For one thing, there are no m100 or Palm VIIx menu items in
the device menu,
Adam wrote:
Eric wrote:
is it possible to take a checksum of parts or even whole of the
code? if possible, I can prevent my code get corrupt.
Checksums might detect corruption, but will not prevent it.
Especially if the code that performs the checksum gets corrupted.
I'm curious
Just curious, does "m100" have any meaning?
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Adam Wozniak wrote in message 20115@palm-dev-forum...
...
I fail to see the difference between what you propose and what actually
happened.
You aren't looking closely enough.
Assume they had made that announcement today, but product did not hit the
shelf for
a couple of weeks. What difference
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I assume there's nothing really new in the hardware that needs a change in
the emulator. If I'm wrong, and had to choose between skins and real emulator
code, I'd choose the emulator changes.
Yes, you're wrong. For one thing, there are no m100 or Palm VIIx menu
I'd be curious to know what hardware changes would require emulator changes
for these devices.
Then look at the Poser sources (in particular, the EmRegsDevice.cpp files).
Those will tell you the relevent hardware differences for currently supported
devices. When I post 3.0a7 (with m100 and
Adam Wozniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Florent Pillet wrote:
I'm trying to determine the memory bus width on various Palm models, to be
able to optimize large data transfers (i.e. using move.w or move.l
instructions) but did not find any information about it.
Anybody knows where I
Richard Hartman wrote:
The course of action might not be different (i.e. test the hell out of the
product under the new OS). But the -result- might be different (i.e. a
fixed version of the product is available when the product hits the shelves
instead of two weeks later).
And we've
I have read through the Metrowerks documentation, and although there is
much about pure assembler syntax (generically), and the disassembler in
Metrowerks demonstrates much in the way of 68K assembly syntax.
But the one piece of information I haven't found or figured out is the
syntax for
"Adam Wozniak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:20132@palm-dev-forum...
Just curious, does "m100" have any meaning?
I think they are trying to get all the old Tandy portable computer users to
upgrade. Will the unit with 4MB be the m102? GRIN
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palmorder.modusmedia.com is severely broken
I've just spent 30 minutes fighting broken server pages, timeouts, and shopping carts
which
don't remember their states. I'm about to give up.
I also note that you can buy Handsprings via Amazon.com, but not Palms
*sigh*
Things like this make me
What do these new devices mean to developers? Nothing, nada, zip, zilch,
zero. They still have the same OS, same RAM, same buttons, same graffiti.
It's mostly a new case.
You might want to check the specs a bit more closely. There are app
and button differences.
Regards,
Steve Mann
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Skins? Skins are more important to you than emulation of the
hardware? Good to
know...
No, no, no! Hardware emulation/ROMs please. The hell with the skins.
Regards,
Steve Mann
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Just be careful because the 68000 can't do misaligned word copies.
But yeah - with no instruction cache, you are usually dealing with
higher instruction bandwidth than data bandwidth! (I find myself
nowalways optimizing on the code side!)
So yes, definately, use move.l when you can - for 2
"Bradly J. Barton" wrote:
[...]
The difference is that Palm let the rumor mill churn for more than a month
between the ZDNet article and the official release. They told us they were
just rumors and to not worry about it. In short, I feel like I was lied to
by Palm on this .. and in turn,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam wrote:
Eric wrote:
is it possible to take a checksum of parts or even whole of the
code? if possible, I can prevent my code get corrupt.
Checksums might detect corruption, but will not prevent it.
Especially if the code that performs the checksum gets
Hai,
I am currently porting an application from c++ for desktop to Palm OS
In the application the following statement is extensively used.
delete [] m_p; //Where m_p is a ptr to a dynamic array
What is the equivalent of it in palm?
I came across only MemPtrFree.But that is not the
Oliver King-Smith wrote:
[...]
"Palm officials said the design changes are important enough to offset the
incompatibility issues, but this decision is likely to produce ill will
within the Palm third-party developer community, which has been burned
already by the Palm III/Palm V design
This is my last comment on this thread..
From: "Adam Wozniak" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He seemed mostly concerned with looking uninformed.
Actually, that was only one of several complaints I originally had, but
others have more eloquently stated those positions (the software and
hardware issues). I
From: Anne Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I am currently porting an application from c++ for desktop to Palm OS
In the application the following statement is extensively used.
delete [] m_p; // Where m_p is a ptr to a dynamic array
What is the equivalent of it in palm?
Well,
Steve Sabram wrote in message 20048@palm-dev-forum...
I like the new look of the
m100. It bottom curve is a very non-threatening form that a lot of
consumer items have taken recently. It is very egg like in look
and handling. Also, all those curves doesn't' have any corners to press
against
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