Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread dmotd
On 03/19/2011 02:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Sat, 3/19/11, dmotdinaudi...@simplesuperlativ.es wrote: Still I believe Ardour has had limited contributors to the code, so if they wished to band together as a copyright collective they would be well within their rights to create a

Re: [PD] Dynamic patching with audio - review

2011-03-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 01:17:28AM +1100, Rich E wrote: libpd will make a complete instance of Pd available inside of another application, but it does not deal with instantiating single objects. libpd does (handle instantiating patches) as of about 2 weeks ago. It maintains the $0

Re: [PD] memento crashing in Pdextended 0.42-5 Ubuntu 10.10

2011-03-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, I, too, would recommend sssad. However the crashing most likely is not a bug in Memento! All similar crash reports I received so far were related to conflicts in [pool] or in wrong [prepend]s being used. Memento does not use [prepend] anymore, and any crashes with [pool]/pd-extended are

Re: [PD] type casting for pix_film

2011-03-19 Thread sonia yuditskaya
Sorry, if I miss-filed the report (never filed one before). To re-phrase the problem; [pix_film] would neither accept filenames with a $1 in them or a %s. In my case [pix_film] has consistently accepted filenames relative to the patch's folder, relative to Path however I have had no such success.

[PD] Compiling Pd external using Codeblocks on Windows

2011-03-19 Thread J bz
Hi peeps, Wondering if anyone has experience of using Codeblocks to compile an external for Windows? Lorenzo Sutton has very kindly forwarded me an external he has made for quad panning using Chowning's methodology which I really like. In the package he forwarded to me, he says that all the code

Re: [PD] type casting for pix_film

2011-03-19 Thread chris clepper
I algorithmically generated and loaded files into pix_film on OSX millions and millions of times using 'open $1' without error. It would be helpful to see what your filenames look like. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:46 AM, sonia yuditskaya marysgh...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry, if I miss-filed the

Re: [PD] Compiling Pd external using Codeblocks on Windows

2011-03-19 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Julian, I sent you a 'windows' zip with the project and already compiled dll answering to your previous private email... I had to re-send as I got a google network error hope it arrived allright. Anyway I'll write here what I know for further reference on the list. (This worked on windows

Re: [PD] type casting for pix_film

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, sonia yuditskaya wrote: To re-phrase the problem; [pix_film] would neither accept filenames with a $1 in them or a %s. No, [pix_film] does accept any symbol. Once the $1 has been processed by the messagebox, it is no longer a $1 (in the output of the messagebox). And

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Bernardo Barros wrote: 2011/3/18 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: already. Then the only way to get a reward for having done work that hasn't been asked for, is always in terms of how much it will get people to offer you money for future work. Perhaps there ought to be

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: I don't understand what you mean. Future work is future. It's not like rewarding past efforts. A past effort doesn't imply feature requests going to the same person and implementing those features doesn't constitute a reward for past efforts.

[PD] iem.at pd-list archive updater is down

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Apologies for potential cross-posting--tried sending this via pd-announce but for some reason it never made it there... If you are looking at the pipermail archives on the web, those archives aren't up to date. For example, last recorded pd-list

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: Any investment in free software is an investment in all corporations that use free software, regardless of how they use it. Very few corporations that use free software make proprietary forks. Proprietary forks aren't the only way corporations can

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Bernardo Barros wrote: Hello , Mathieu! Well, I did not refer to implementation of new features, but the maintenance of that code that already works, fixing bugs. Ok, so, basically, buggy software gets rewarded for requests to fix bugs. Bugless software is not rewarded 

[PD] InterLABnet Noise streaming!!

2011-03-19 Thread el jay
*...INTERnational interLAB interNET.. Live ExperiMENTAL noise jam stream Confirmed SPACES: BCN -- La Rimaia Berlin -- Emitter19 Budapest -- Kaszino2010 Zurich -- dock18 NYC -- ? * There is an international noise conspiracy underway.. Noise artists from different spaces and labs

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Bernardo Barros wrote: How the donation will be spitted, that's up to the donator and the main developers to decide. I would like to choose witch sub-projects I would like to donate, or if I would like to contribute to the whole project sharing in direct proportion to the

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: And how do you measure the proportion of money that should go to each developer in a project ? Take for example pd-vanilla : Miller gets what percentage of the donations ? I don't know. Let the donator choose?

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Martin Peach
On 2011-03-19 15:34, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Ok, so, basically, buggy software gets rewarded for requests to fix bugs. Bugless software is not rewarded : it does not pay. Therefore we are encouraged to put enough bugs in there so that we get money. Nevermind the high-reliability ideals. That

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Bernardo Barros wrote: 2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: And how do you measure the proportion of money that should go to each developer in a project ? Take for example pd-vanilla : Miller gets what percentage of the donations ? I don't know. Let the donator

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Peter Kirn
Specifically, the *only* function missing from the non-donation OSX version of Ardour is support for AudioUnit plugins on the Mac. I have no problem with the Ardour model of distribution, and AFAIK you can still use your package manager in almost any Linux distro to avoid even being asked to

Re: [PD] Generative Pure Data based internet radio

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, David Guy John wrote: The idea is that python starts up an instance of PD which will choose patches at random from a list. It loads a patch up, plays it for 10 minutes then crossfades over to another randomly chosen patch. There are currently 20 patches on there the vast

Re: [PD] Cool Sequencer

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Cody Loyd wrote: Personally this concept is going to be very very useful to me, and I'm proud that I thought of it on my own. So, what do you think? PLEASE PLEASE share any improvements that you might have to this design :) error: pack: i: bad type because atom type i

Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on analogindustries.com

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Andy Farnell wrote: This is pure superstition and folklore, but I'm sure it had something to do with using [knob] objects. Just a feeling in my bones. Well, that's possibly a very good guess. Now if only someone could look at [knob]'s code, to find out what might be wrong

Re: [PD] Problems going fullscreen on external projector

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Antonio Roberts wrote: Thanks for the advice! I've sent it to the pure data forum as well. As GEM crashed often for me (using an ATI card) I instead used: [#to_pdp] Btw someone (buzz) reported that [#to_pdp] would only produce a single frame, as it would get stuck with

Re: [PD] Cool Sequencer

2011-03-19 Thread David Schaffer
Thanks for sharing this. I like the patch. I think it would be interesting to replace the osc~ based sound generation by a sample reading system. For instance, you could fill a folder with samples named 000 to 999 and use readsf~ to play them in sequence by telling it to open/start

Re: [PD] New video - muscle sounds and DIY biosensing wearable technology

2011-03-19 Thread David Schaffer
H, i your project catched my attention because I was wondering lately how one could record interesting human body sounds. Could you give me some details about you microphone technique for this project? Thanks a lot. D.S http://www.flickr.com/photos/schafferdavid/

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
sorry, my following reply sat a long time in my email account. On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, ailo wrote: I guess what I meant was, can we define music generally so that everyone can agree on what is the definition of music? Well, if «everyone» also includes those people who purposefully want you to

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-19 Thread Pierre Massat
Oh no, not again... 2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca sorry, my following reply sat a long time in my email account. On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, ailo wrote: I guess what I meant was, can we define music generally so that everyone can agree on what is the definition of music?

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-19 Thread Andy Farnell
Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the universe than we do now. On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:34:15 +0100 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Oh no, not again... 2011/3/19 Mathieu

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
ROTFL ! But personally, I'd rather bet on the spermwhale. On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Andy Farnell wrote: Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the universe than we do now. On Sat, 19 Mar 2011

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? To: ailo ailo...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:27 PM sorry, my following reply sat a long time in my email account.

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-19 Thread Pedro Lopes
Mathieu, a fun-fact note on recent spermwhale research - http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/03/sperm-whale-names/ http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/03/sperm-whale-names/Probably they know a lot :) On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: ersonally,

Re: [PD] Dynamic patching with audio - review

2011-03-19 Thread Rich E
Oh, cool, I wasn't aware of that. Can you tell a bit more about the performance of this approach and how it compares to dynamic patching for dynamic instantiation of objects/patches? Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ Initial

Re: [PD] Dynamic patching with audio - review

2011-03-19 Thread Richie Cyngler
I am just a lowly Pd user, not a dev. How would I use libpd? Does it work just like Pd, but embeddable in other devices? or are we talking lines of code? thanks On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, cool, I wasn't aware of that. Can you tell a bit more about

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] The economics of Open source To: Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 8:34 PM On Sat, 19 Mar 2011,