Program metering will overexpose light areas in high-contrast light. It
is designed to bring out detail in shadow areas. Best advice: Don't use it.
I do not have any problem with my *ist D overexposing. The reason is
because I use center-weighted averaging, which gives me consistently
Here is a snapshot of Mark Stringer and me.
http://members.aol.com/ernreed/pdmlsa.jpg
Photo by Daniel Reed, using my Pentax Optio 550.
ERN
Here's an example of what I'm complaining about:
http://members.aol.com/ernreed/2bright.jpg
The only thing I did to this image was resize it in Photoshop Elements. Much of
the EXIF data seems to have survived this.
ERN
OH, I'm in trouble now! I've been roaming the country shooting highways,
bridges, barns, capitols and courthouses with a PZ-1 and an *istD.
Pentax cameras and a foreign accent. Good thing I never went near New Jersey.
ERN
Looks like my big fat Z-1p is the primary target. Luckily I have a blue
Steve said:
Norm's a Texan. He uses a 6x7 'cause it's the biggest damn SLR he can
get. vbg
And I always go for the small cameras. Which just goes to prove that even
living here for 20+ years will not make me a Texan.
g
ERN
Keith asked:
Okay, ...a useability difference in the viewfinder... but in what way was
it different?
Brighter. Easier to see.
I know -- that's what I should've said the first time.
:-)
ERN
Norm said:
All this talk about HCB.and not one mention of Rick Super Freak
James dying. ...
Oh, yeah. Him, too.
(Was he a photographer?)
ERN
Paul Stenquist wrote:
All of your pentax lenses are useable on the *istD. I have some FA
lenses, but I prefer many of my K-series versions and shoot with them.
The first release *istD did not have the necessary firmware to meter
with K lenses. The new ones do, and they work fine.
Kenneth Waller quoted posted:
Because someone is (at) Pentax is known (or at least believed :-) to read
this discussion list, there's a tendency to imagine we're an important
factor in the Pentax decision-making procedure.
I wonder if anyone on the list has any reason to believe this is
Not only that, but they did a bad job of changing the name everywhere.
They tried to fix the image of the camera box by manipulating the image,
so they fixed the sides, but they completely forgot to fix the name on
the top of the box!! LOL.
rg
But IMO it *is* a better name ... :-)
ERN
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3542570.stm
(Replying to the title): I saw another version of the story earlier and also
thought of her.
And actually a pretty similar thought.
ERN
Rob said:
All media has limitations, if you want the best out of anything you have to
exercise current best storage/file maintenance practice to ensure its
longevity
its not rocket science (well not at the user end anyhow).
In any case I'm sure you will also hear the other arguments which
Wendy shared:
Been away for a week or so doing agility stuff with the girls. Upon my
return, I cleared out the post box of mail and found to my surprise that
one of my photos has been used in Clean Run, and American Dog Agility
magazine. Even got a cheque for $20!
Two of my photos were
Mark Roberts wrote, among other things:
For those of you who remember that far back, I went to Ohio on the
weekend of July 24-25 to cover the AMA Superbike Championship races at
the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course for Superbikeplanet.com
.. at which point, having spent that very same weekend in OH,
Graywolf said:
You guys do know that if I put all this stuff in a FAQ, there would be no
need
for the mailing list, as there would be nothing left to talk about here.
--
Steve Jolly wrote:
English sports cars
Beer
What Pentax should be doing different and why they're doomed for
Caveman wrote:
If I were to look at Pentax, I'd consider the Optio 43WR. What I really
don't understand is why they have absolutely no lens protection. Mixed
with various keys and other objects to be found in a cavewoman's purse,
it would get scratched in no time.
After living for a
-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PUG image published
Just got word that my August PUG submission was awarded First place in
the
scenic category in a contest sponsored by Alaska
Don said:
This is for the MZ/ZX series, haven't seen the *ist D.
LX and MX come out too but have a much more obvious latch.
replying to:
GREAT information. Do all Pentax cameras have the same clip and the same
flip down screen?
Of course, *you* know (but I mention in case of readers
Anybody besides my wife and I going to the GFM Camera Clinic Aug 21-22?
Bill
My son starts school a few days before that, so I'm not going. I *have* visited
Grandfather Mountain this summer, anyway (last week, as a matter of fact) so
that's something, right?
ERN
who ended up going past
David Schneider posted:
Hello!
I'm new to the list...
Welcome!!
I have a Pentax Super Program which I received as a
graduation gift.
I used to have a Super Program. Rather liked it.
I treasure that camera, and it has remained my only
35mm. This is not to say that I don't have some
husband's and I could be describing it incorrectly.)
I pretty much did not understand the technical stuff in your post but if you
want me to provide you with an image using any of the above-named lenses, drop
me a line. Off-list is fine.
ernreed2 at texas dot net
or
ERNReed at AOL dot com
substitute
Amita asked:
AG Am I the only person here who has a hard time focusing manually with the
AG istD's matte screen? I rarely get it right, but could that be because
AG I've only had the camera for a couple of months? I do just fine with my
AG older cameras and my ZX-50.
and Bruce replied:
Jens said:
A great thing about the Vivitar is that it comes with a built-in shade/hood,
which the A 2.8/20mm doesn't.
You're not talking about the Vivitar 19mm f/3.8, filter size 62mm, here are
you? Mine did not come with a hood.
ERN
who actually used said lens recently, first time for quite
Jostein:
Another pic from our recent family vacation.
http://www.oksne.net/paw/romance.html
Oh, wow.
Simply gorgeous.
ERN
Raimo K posted:
Well, I was not so sure myself - until I managed to bump a sizeable chunk
out of the skylight filter on my 3.5/35-105 SMC Pentax. I had used the
filter to correct the bluish cast of the Fujichrome Sensia II. The hood for
this lens is useless as a hood or protection. Rubber
Hi,
Ryan Lee wrote:
Two votes for an MX viewfinder (including Alex's).. Maybe I'll try scouting
used equipment just for a look and a play.
Add another one to that. I have only ever looked through one MX
viewfinder and it was a decidedly secondhand one at that. Nonetheless,
it
(quoting the last line of a rather famous book)
We've travelled far -- in, through, or just touching the corner of fourteen
states -- in the past two weeks, and along the way saw one list-member, spoke
by phone to two others, and visited Grandfather Mountain. I'm awfully tired and
have a LOT
Antonio said:
I dunno, I think film is doing fine considering. Sure a lot of people
will switch to digital for the convenience factor, but it is a bit
extreme to say film is dying (i.e. that it will eventually completely
disappear) - the results you get from film are just too good. Anyway
Don said:
I was trying to decide whether to get that book or the one for Elements.
I have both softwares but considered the full version way over my head.
Maybe not.
Well, everything in Elements is also in the full version, right; while the
reverse is not true -- so a book on the whole thing
Tanja said:
Actually, ERN, that's not exactly true, the fill flash function, and the
recipes, and quite a number of other features (mainly shortcut type
stuff, and fun things like borders etc) are not available in CS or any other
version except for Elements, to my knowledge.
Feel free,
Kim Sherman posted:
Apologies if the list has seen this info already.
I just saw it on the LUG (Leica Users Group) and wanted to pass it along.
No financial interest in Rich Pinto's business, ya da ya da
---
Kobayashi goes K with the VSL43: revive those Pentax K lenses!
Don said:
Check the viewfinder specs before buying a ZX-M!
It's kinda dark, BUT, it's really small!
I can't see a thing through it.
Compared to a Super A it looks like you put a 50/1.4 on the SA and 28/4 on
the M.
Even though you had a 50/2 on both!
If you do want one I'll sell mine
This image will only be offensive to those who don't like big cuddly
kitties. :)
http://www.sunny16.net/photos/paw/2004-07-14.html
Amita:
My first reaction is that you just totally nailed the focus on the eyes
perfectly.
Although I am a bit distracted by the big highlight in the top right,
Peter Loveday posted:
Haven't had any politics to speak of yet.
Had the politics flamefest last month. I think that was recent enough. Check
the archive ...
ER
I notice that the *istD and the Optio 550 name files in exactly the same way. I
don't suppose there's some kind of easy fix available so as not to cause
confusion when files from both sources are stored in the same place?
ERN
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW: Sleepy
While on vacation, I had the joy of being the official trailer puller
when on a group bike ride. In the trailer were my 3
Mr Robb posted:
Tasteful female content.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/2456.jpg
She's in a nice pose, Mr Robb, but her face seems rather in need of more light.
ER
Mr Robb quoted and posted as follows:
- Original Message -
From: Jon M
Subject: LX vs K2dmd vs Super Program
I've been thinking about picking up another camera
body, and I wanted some opinions. Things I'd like in
order of importance are aperture priority and manual
Cotty quoted and posted as follows, and I am snipping only for the sake of
space:
On 13/7/04, Tom C, discombobulated, offered:
.. 5. Can't we have a forum for disussion about photography where we don't
bombard each other with sexual images? Is that to much to ask?
I take your point Tom, but
Steve D asked:
Why not an MX? I notice it wasn't really considered in this thread.
Perhaps because the original post mentioned that aperture-priority was an
important consideration
ER
El gringo, whoever that is, posted:
Okay, sure, some art is offensive just to be offensive BUT EVEN IN THOSE
CASES, it is still ART, it is still SELF EXPRESSION, it is still the RIGHT
OF THE ARTIST to PROVOKE, INSULT, or otherwise offend ANY GROUP HE OR SHE
CHOOSES...
Thank you for agreeing
Alan Chan inquired:
I have got the impression that the AF of the MZ-5/5n/3 would go dead after a
few years, after reading similar complaints several times. How many here had
this problem?
My ZX-5n, bought in December 1998 (which as I recall was shortly after its
introduction) is still
Rob said:
So prey tell, what is offensive about Neanderthals? :-)
Not a single one of them ever used a Pentax. Clearly, they had no taste.
ERN
John said:
The Super A actually has the same body as the ME Super, so they are as
sleek as each other.
I'm quite sure the bodies are different -- the ME Super is a little smaller.
Quieter, too, though that's probably another matter.
ERN
John said, regarding the Super A and the ME Super:
They are sufficiently similar that they both take the ME Winder II. If
they are different, there's barely a millimetre in it. They DO have
different shutters, so they don't sound the same.
I must admit, I made the comment assuming that
The Super Program also shakes like a wet dog when the shutter is
released.
Can't argue about that, though I think the Z-1p is even worse.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Not that I have any science to back me up, but my own feeling is that the
SuperProgram is worse than the PZ-1.
Jon posted:
I've been thinking about picking up another camera
body, and I wanted some opinions. Things I'd like in
order of importance are aperture priority and manual
mode, ability to be motorized (my A3000 has spoiled
me), DOF preview and MLU.
What I've given particular attention to is
Graywolf wrapped up a recent post with:
Hobbies are supposed to waste time. Give you time to
relax. It is all about enjoyment. If you can not wait to get it over with, it
is
not a hobby!
One for the quote file!
ERN
Mark Roberts said:
You have interesting friends Frank.
Close to what I was thinking of saying. Except I was reaching for the
adjective strange ...
grins
ER
Mark Roberts posted:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/_IGP0717.jpg
In the garden behind the house.
ist-D, ISO 800, FA*80-200/2.8
Beautiful!
ER
Larry said:
It's very interesting to here comments both good and bad.
Some like the burnout/flare and others do not. Interesting.
You can count me in the like column.
E
James said:
Whats everyones opinion on the MZ6 - MZL camera?
I have to up grade cause my Super program meter doesn't work any more :( and
I cannot get
it repaired. (the guy who looked at it totally %%#$$#%$ the meter cause it did
mostly
work) .
In the time-honoured
Time for me to move on. Have a long vacation coming up in a few days and I
probably won't return to the list for quite some time. Frankly, I don't
feel much a part of things here ... so, thanks to all who've been helpful.
I hope I've been able to help or influence one or two people in a
Peter Alling shared about his dog's expensive health crisis.
Sorry, Peter.
Hope he recovers and stays well for a long, long time.
And I hope you find an answer to the credit card bill.
ERN
Alan commented:
I guess it matters to Pentax because the potential problems are unknown for
water damaged products. They might end up paying more than they like if
anything went wrong with with the repair. The time required to troubleshoot
might be too long as well.
in response to:
I
DJE said, among many other things:
Wide angles wider than 28mm are rare. 20mm was either too expensive to
build, too hard to design, or too extreme to sell in sufficient volume
because almost nobody but the manufacturers made them. Only Sigma makes
one, and that is recent. ...
A Vivitar
DJE said, among many other things:
Wide angles wider than 28mm are rare. 20mm was either too expensive to
build, too hard to design, or too extreme to sell in sufficient volume
because almost nobody but the manufacturers made them. Only Sigma makes
one, and that is recent. ...
A Vivitar
On 30 Jun 2004 at 18:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Earlier in this thread, I mentioned the Vivitar 19mm f/3.8
I bought this lens brand new from BH a few years ago. It's still listed on
their website. They're asking a little over $100 for it.
Rob said:
Unfortunately I don't think DJE
Yay, Adelheid Jostein!
Thanks again for all the hard work.
ERN
Annsan posted:
Not many pics up - undoubtedly because people ARE
on vacation :)
but what there is is churce (choice)
What surprised me -- and this is simply an observation, not any kind of
complaint or judgement -- is that there weren't more Grandfather Mountain
pictures in this PUG,
Cotty said:
Yeah but isn't that the point? Shouldn't they be comparing the Baby *ist
D to the Rebel? Of course the *ist D is better than the 300D -- it can't
not be.
Pentax still has a very reputable branding - if the Baby D was priced
about the (relevant) Nikon / Canon entry level, it
Music to hate yourself by? I have always subscribed to the idea that music
should make you feel better, not make you want to kill yourself.
THANKS. As a result of reading the above post, I now have You don't have to
call me darlin, darlin, You never even called me by my name running
(Cheers chorus)
ANN
(/Cheers chorus)
Nenand said, among other things:
I guess I would be willing to put up with a less than perfect display. All
too often I forget to reset ISO and find I have taken some shots in good
light at an unecessarily high ISO. If there was some sort of indication in
the viewfinder that would reduce
DagT posted:
Children are not pretty all the time...
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2467961size=lg
Oh, POOR little thing!!
Here's hoping for a very quick recovery.
ERN
Still doing a double-take every time I see this subject line.
E.R.N. Reed
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/manbus2.html
Shel
Col!
ERN
Graywolf mentioned:
So, I was not suggesting he try to get the S-20, but that he look for
something
currently on closeout somewhere.
Understood. By now this may have become lost in the discussion, but my original
reply was intended to say that I agreed in principle (look for a deal on a
César said:
That was great to look at. I really got a kick out of seeing the tiled
floors and the mosquito netting. Reminds me of Honduras.
I do remember feeling rather grown up when we visited and my mother no
longer bothered putting up a mosquito net for us.
It was interesting
Wow, $69 was a good deal. I think I'll buy a scanner, but money is the
problem. I don't have any at the moment
Cheers
Shaun
graywolf wrote:
By the time you pay someone to commercially scan 300-400 slides you
will have more than paid for a very good film scanner, so you might
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
The principle works, but bear in mind that the HP S20, if by that
Graywolf
means the HP Photosmart S20, scans mounted slides one at a time.
And doesn't to a good job of Kodachrome, if my
-Original Message-
From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...but while we're on the subject, what sort of an advertising slogan is
Reliable gear for your travels (IIRC) ?
Reliable gear for your Adventures it was the Steve Irwin Crocodile Hunter
campaign.
Christian
Well, not
I edited down the 798 pictures to a slightly more-manageable hundred or so, and
spent a lot of time in Photoshop Elements, trying to tame the contrast.
The resulting gallery may be seen here
http://grreed.home.texas.net/FamilyStuff/ERNR/JA2004/
Thought of trying to pass this off as a hundred
Alan Chan quoted and posted:
However, it would be a shame to see the MZ-S leave...
I had understood that was the flagship 355mm film camera for Pentax. I
wonder what happened, didn't it sell in sufficient quatities?
Obviousely... the demand has been so low and not even all diehand Pentax
alternative to the one in my earlier post
http://ja2004.falconsgate.com
Anthony posted:
Wasn't me, it may have been Antonio who expressed that opinion.
Darn! Sorry! Yes, I meant Antonio. Wasn't thinking about you at all, I just
misremembered his name.
ERN
Jostein said:
(986 exposures in two weeks)
Whew. So I am in the normal range of craziness after all!
ERN
Ryan said:
Ern, that's a great shot! I like how the guy sitting on the bow provides a
nice counterpoint for the foreground spectators. Where was the shot taken
from? Looks pretty wet :)
(commenting on
http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/drf0604.jpg )
I was maybe waist-deep or more in the
Nenad Djurdjevic asked:
I have been wondering why Pentax AF cameras (crippled KAF mount excepted)
will not show the aperture setting in the viewfinder when the aperture ring
is set to other than A.
It seems to me that A lenses provide enough information to the camera
through the electronic
Tanja said:
Mine is coming soon! I have an entire 2 week trip to cover in mine, so it
is taking a little longer than anticipated!
You also had a two-week trip -- that's right! How many pictures did you take in
two weeks? I'm trying to figure out if anyone else is as crazy as I am, or
maybe
Ann posted:
Ern - so glad to hear that he is well and has such
good taste in cameras too!
Hope you can make it to you know where next year.
Best,
annsan
Ann -- I hope so too.
BTW I was the one who originally bought him a K1000. :-)
He was a non-Pentax screw-mount user from way back,
Nobody is criticising the right to post pics - the criticism seems to
be of the person - Regan - the pics are of. And then the usual suspects
then criticise the critics for having an opimion they dont share.
A.
On 11 Jun 2004, at 05:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OTOH, I feel it's
Got back from my trip to Jamaica this afternoon. Not missing the mosquitoes at
all.
In the process of going through about 500+ PDML messages (was too busy last
night to check them) and at some point I'll have to do a more thorough edit
(for myself, anyway) of EIGHT HUNDRED pictures. I did
Mark said:
Boyd's seems to be hangin' on. It's good place to get lens caps, filters,
film, and occasionally, used gear. They had short-dated Fuji Super HQ 200
film for $1.00 a roll when I went two weeks ago. Photo Express did an
excellent job printing it. I think they survive cause Camera
Damn I'm tired. Here are some pics from tan's *ist-D -
http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tan/index.htm
Tan says hi.
tv
OT? Last I heard, the *istD WAS a Pentax camera.
Well, I guess it must be 'cause you're tired. Never
mind.
Mr Robb said, among other things:
True enough. I do think though, that they are going to have to turn
themselves into a brand with Leica style cachet appeal to survive.
Wouldn't their prices have to go up a Whole Lot to achieve that?
ERN
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
True enough, but if they're bringing out a camera to compete with the
Digital Rebel they will have
to compete in places like WalMart. There's no way around it.
I hope they'll market their cameras at walmart cause none of the camera
shops in San
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, John Francis wrote:
In any case, the MZ-S came out long after autofocus was prevalent.
I don't want to wait that long for a better DSLR than the *ist-D.
I cannot believe the PZ-1p was that bad a camera.
Kostas
Judging from the PZ-1 (which I have owned for eight
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, John Francis wrote:
In any case, the MZ-S came out long after autofocus was prevalent.
I don't want to wait that long for a better DSLR than the *ist-D.
Kostas:
I cannot believe the PZ-1p was that bad a camera.
John Francis:
Try using one in the rain and you
Arrived safely in Jamaica yesterday evening with all family members luggage
safely accounted for.
Several of you were kind enough to express hopes that my father's surgery
would go well -- he is in very good spirits, his doctor is pleased with him,
and he is in the process of learning to use
Shel said:
Paul,
You've created something that does not exist. IMO, that's not a portrait
but a work of art, a creation. The work is good, the woman looks good,
but, imo, agreeing with Peter, some of her character is gone. I think, as a
portrait, you overdid the Photoshop work. If this
Adelheid:
Thank you so much.
ERN
Adelheid told us:
The June PUG is ready on my website. (... snip ...)
So now the issue of the URL
It will change each month at present it is:
http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04jun
(snip)
Scott Cassel posted:
If I got a set of screw mount auto extension tubes, would that work with the
K1000 and the
screw mount Takumars if I just put the K Mount Adaptor on the part of the tubes
that
connect to the camera?
Yes, you can -- I have done exactly this with my father's extension
In a message dated 5/23/2004 11:48:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie is a California resident who has told us she's pretty tall. If she's
the
only tall female Californian, you should be able to pick her out.
--
Good memory!
Yup, and I will
JvW posted a quote from Cotty and a reply, thus:
As Eleanor suggested, the Optio 33 LF does indeed have a flip out LCD.
It's slightly smaller than the G2, and weighs less, but it's nearly 1MP
down. Does anyone have an Optio 33LF and would like to share their
opinions if this camera?
I have
I've been trying to figure out how I'll recognize everyone since I've never
met any of you. I've searched the archives and this is what I have so far:
Tom will be the guy hollering Pizza. Get your nice hot pizza here!
Tanya will be the woman in the crocodile skin thong
William Robb will
Tom Reese wrote:
Sorry about the error. I'll correct my list to: William Robb will be the
guy who isn't there.
You know, being a grump isn't a bad thing. I've been practicing myself so
I'll know how to do it in my rapidly approaching oldmanhood.
William Robb was in a good mood when he
Tanja posted:
huh?!?!? That simply is NOT allowed!
No way!! What about bringing your kids etc?
I was hoping for more GIRL POWER!!
:-(
I really wanted to meet the whole crowd, but my father is scheduled to have
surgery and we felt that my parents' need for our presence should have
graywolf said:
Really sorry to hear that. Hope all the best for your dad.
after similar thoughts had been posted by Cory, Cotty, Tanja, Bill O. ... and I
have a horrible suspicion I'm going to forget somebody ...
Thanks all, I do appreciate your kindness.
I was pretty concise about it last
Following advice provided both publicly and privately by listmembers, I
communicated with Pentax Service in CO, then sent the LX back to them directly
myself, instead of going through the local shop.
I called the day before yesterday and was told that the burr on the film rails
had been taken
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