Re: Bouncer

2007-06-27 Thread Mishka
i guess, phony beatlemania has bitten the dust? best, mishka On 6/26/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Beetles references, were bad before but now franks lost it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Mishka
i cannot really argue with you guys -- you seem to know my preferences way better than i do... best, mishka On 6/26/07, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: > > Mishka > >> What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? > >> > >> -frank > > > > that the Russian girls really knock me ou

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/26/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because your "Back in the US, Back in the US, Back in the USSR". > LOL! Missed that obvious one (I'm at work, and concentrating on dispatching; that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it...) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Tom C
> >On 6/26/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You don't know how lucky you are boys. > >Why would that be? > >cheers, >frank > Because your "Back in the US, Back in the US, Back in the USSR". Silly boy. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listi

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread John Sessoms
> > From: > Mishka >> What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? >> >> -frank > > that the Russian girls really knock me out... > > best, > mishka Ukraine girls -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/26/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't know how lucky you are boys. Why would that be? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Tom C
You don't know how lucky you are boys. Tom C. >From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: Bouncer >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:52:20 -0400 > >On 6/26/07,

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/26/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Beetles references, were bad before but now franks lost it. That would be "Beatles" with an "a"... cheers, frank ;-) ps: I lost it long ago, Peter... -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discus

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Beetles references, were bad before but now franks lost it. frank theriault wrote: > On 6/25/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> that the Russian girls really knock me out... >>> >> I thought that was the Ukraine girls. >> > > They leave The West behind. > > Moscow

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/25/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that the Russian girls really knock me out... > > I thought that was the Ukraine girls. They leave The West behind. Moscow girls make me sing and shout, that Georgia's alway on my my my my my my my my my mind... cheers, frank -- "Sharp

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/25/2007 5:08:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They're just security guards, and you have no obligation to provide them with ~any~ info. == That's what I thought. That being said, yes, if you were in a company parking lot you were on private

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: Bouncer >> >> What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? >> >> >> >> -frank >> > >> > that the Russian girls really knock me out... >> >> I thought that w

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Mishka
> >> What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? > >> > >> -frank > > > > that the Russian girls really knock me out... > > I thought that was the Ukraine girls. > > William Robb you wouldn't know the difference anyway. best, mishka -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/ma

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: Bouncer >> What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? >> >> -frank > > that the Russian girls really knock me out... I thought that was the Ukraine girls. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Mishka
> What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? > > -frank that the Russian girls really knock me out... best, mishka -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread John Sessoms
> > From: > Adam Maas > > mike wilson wrote: >> Paul Sorenson wrote: >> >>> The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, >>> you really don't have an effective military. >> >> Tell that to . >> > > None of which are militarily effective. Politically Effective? Yep. > But

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
You don't have to be USSR expert. Leave out indefinite or definite article part of speech and you sound like one. :-) Tom C. >From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread frank theriault
On 6/25/07, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- spoken by a true USSR expert. What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank ;-) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Mishka
On 6/25/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >What this reverence does is give you a national tendency to do what the > >military (by extension what you call the "commander in chief", I believe) > >tells you to do without question, and to follow the directives of anyone > >who puts on a unifo

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Bouncer > Almost like old days in U.S.S.R. > You might find this of some interest: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/lies/ William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
> >Or am I wrong, and you've seen through the brainwashing and think police >states are a good thing? > >William Robb > Almost like old days in U.S.S.R. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
> >Vote, run for office if you want to make a difference. > >Regards, Bob S. > LOL! Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
>>The first step is to stop revering your war veterans as if they are some >sort of heros. >They aren't heros. >What this reverence does is give you a national tendency to do what the >military (by extension what you call the "commander in chief", I believe) >tells you to do without question, and t

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread frank theriault
On 6/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I was doing shots for my project, I went to the Shell oil refinery in > Martinez. I found a parking lot with an open gate and pulled in and parked. > There was a check-in security gate further down the road, with another fence. > T

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-24 Thread Paul Sorenson
Their chain of command is just shorter... -p mike wilson wrote: > Paul Sorenson wrote: > >> The unfortunate truth is >> that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an >> effective military. > > Tell that to . > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://p

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-24 Thread Adam Maas
mike wilson wrote: > Paul Sorenson wrote: > >> The unfortunate truth is >> that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an >> effective military. > > Tell that to . > None of which are militarily effective. Politically Effective? Yep. But not militarily. The goal of a t

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-24 Thread mike wilson
Paul Sorenson wrote: > The unfortunate truth is > that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an > effective military. Tell that to . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: Bouncer > > Fascism can only occur in the US if the military doesn't stand up to the > politicians and refuse un-lawful orders. > OK. You kinda repliedfor me in another post. Sorry, I won'

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
William Robb wrote: >> - Original Message - From: "Paul Sorenson" >> Subject: Re: Bouncer >> >>> I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every >>> time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties.

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread J
..Joe At 04:35 PM 6/23/07, you wrote: > > From:,"P. J. Alling" > > > > Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. > > > > William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Paul Sorenson" > > Subject: Re:

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Interspersed... William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Sorenson" > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > >> Bill - >> >> That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is >> that if you don't hav

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
> > From: > "P. J. Alling" > > You should look up the definition of unlawful orders sometime, it's > hardly clear cut. > >> John Sessoms wrote: >> >> Fascism can only occur in the US if the military doesn't stand up to >> the politicians and refuse un-lawful orders. Sometimes it's not. More ofte

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
> From:,"P. J. Alling" > > Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. > > William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Paul Sorenson" > Subject: Re: Bouncer >> I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acti

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
You should look up the definition of unlawful orders sometime, it's hardly clear cut. John Sessoms wrote: >> From: >> Paul Sorenson >> >> Bill - >> >> That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is >> that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an >>

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
> > From: > Paul Sorenson > > Bill - > > That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is > that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an > effective military. So, yes, we do have heroes - everyone who puts > their all on the line at the will of their

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The spell checker strikes again. See my correction, you certainly show symptoms. William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "P. J. Alling" > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > > >> Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you wou

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
m: "P. J. Alling" > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > > >> Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. >> >> > > I would expect no other response from you Peter. You seem to have a vested > interest in the status quo, and hav

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob W
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Norm Baugher > Sent: 23 June 2007 15:28 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > Bob, > He doesn't look that big, you could have taken him... > Norm > > Bob W wrote: > > Today I was walking past the UK HQ o

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Bouncer > Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you would know. > (I can be an asshole sometimes, you've make it a carrier). Carriers don't show symptoms, Peter. William Robb --

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Sorenson" Subject: Re: Bouncer > Bill - > > That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is > that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an > effective military. So, ye

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Bouncer > Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. > I would expect no other response from you Peter. You seem to have a vested interest in the status quo, and have lost the ability t

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
e > constitution and the people being apathetic enough to let them do it. > > -p > > William Robb wrote: > >> - Original Message - >> From: "Paul Sorenson" >> Subject: Re: Bouncer >> >> >> >>> I wish mor

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
and a career, as well... P. J. Alling wrote: > Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you would know. > (I can be an asshole sometimes, you've make it a carrier). > > William Robb wrote: > >> - Original Message - >> From: "P

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you would know. (I can be an asshole sometimes, you've make it a carrier). William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "P. J. Alling" > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > > >> The Irony

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Sorenson" > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > > >> I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every >> time

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
stitution and the people being apathetic enough to let them do it. -p William Robb wrote: > - Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Sorenson" > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > >> I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every >> time someone

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Bouncer > The Irony being you also make a terrible Canadan... How do you figure that? Or are you practicing free range bigotry again? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdm

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Me, too -p Bob Sullivan wrote: > Bill, Paul, ... > Pick your battles, pick how you want to spend your time. > Remember the Vietnam War -- Been there, done that. > Regards, Bob S. > > On 6/23/07, Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting lik

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The Irony being you also make a terrible Canadan... William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Bob W" > Subject: RE: Bouncer > > > >> He's right though, isn't he? The colonials all get it from the mother >> country, of course

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 23, 2007, at 6:43 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every > time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. An extremely cogent discussion on this specific subject is presented by Al Gore in "The Assault On Reas

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Bouncer > Bill, > > It's 'tilting at windmills.' > Spent a lot of time doing that during the Vietnam era. > It was mainly a waste of time. Nothing changed. War didn't stop. > A

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
eractions. Vote, run for office if you want to make a difference. Regards, Bob S. On 6/23/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > > > Bill, Paul, ... > > Pick you

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Norm Baugher
could > get a clean shot, when I noticed a couple of them start to scowl, and > one started walking towards me: > > http://www.web-options.com/Bouncer.jpg > > The usual argument ensued: > > Bouncer (East European accent): You are not allowed to photograph this > building >

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Bouncer > Bill, Paul, ... > Pick your battles, pick how you want to spend your time. Thats the attitude the modern regimes hopes it's citizens will take. They hope that we will allow them to intimidate us. Th

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Sorenson" Subject: Re: Bouncer >I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every > time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. The first step is to stop revering your war veterans as if the

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, Paul, ... Pick your battles, pick how you want to spend your time. Remember the Vietnam War -- Been there, done that. Regards, Bob S. On 6/23/07, Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every > time someone takes a crack at

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: Bouncer > He's right though, isn't he? The colonials all get it from the mother > country, of course, and the ongoing struggle against The Norman Yoke. > If England hadn't spawned a lot of bolshy free-thi

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. -p Cotty wrote: > On 22/6/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this fight, and if we can't win it, at >> le

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread mike wilson
e way so I could >>get a clean shot, when I noticed a couple of them start to scowl, and >>one started walking towards me: >> >>http://www.web-options.com/Bouncer.jpg >> >>The usual argument ensued: >> >>Bouncer (East European accent): You are not allowe

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob W
> On 22/6/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this fight, and if we > can't win it, at > >least make it so ugly for the bullies that they back down. > >To do otherwise is to say goodbye to our freedoms and give > our societies > >into the hands

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/6/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this fight, and if we can't win it, at >least make it so ugly for the bullies that they back down. >To do otherwise is to say goodbye to our freedoms and give our societies >into the hands of fascists of th

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Bob W
D] > Sent: 23 June 2007 03:30 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Bouncer > > In a message dated 6/22/2007 1:21:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It really pisses me off when people do that. Anyway, the bank I work > for is bigger than the b

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Bob W
oing about their lawful business. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Paul Ewins > Sent: 23 June 2007 00:43 > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: Bouncer > > Speaking as an ex Bank empl

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/22/2007 1:21:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It really pisses me off when people do that. Anyway, the bank I work for is bigger than the bank he works for, so there. Bob == When I was doing shots for my project, I went to the Shell oil re

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Tom C
>Having said that, I also believe that our natural tendency to comply with >people to threaten to hurt us if we don't comply with their illegal wishes >will ultimately cost us much more than a few bruises. > >William Robb > I *might* have just ignored him and acted like I didn't hear him. After I

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Paul Ewins
turday, June 23, 2007 8:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bouncer Bob, You'e argueing with the establishment - the big business, tax paying establishment. You ain't gonna win that fight, UK, USA or wherever. Regards, Bob S. On 6/22/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Adam Maas
just scream page 1 of the > tabloids. Not a good idea, even for a merchant bank. > > Paul > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob > Sullivan > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:28 AM > To:

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Bouncer > Bob, > You'e argueing with the establishment - the big business, tax paying > establishment. You ain't gonna win that fight, UK, USA or wherever. Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this figh

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Bouncer > That being said, I'd prefer to be unhurt and poor to being black and > blue (or worse) with monies in pocket. Best not to argue with such > people... > > Still, I like the shot you go

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
bviously did the safe thing by not taking the shot you wanted, > > but I've always wondered what would happen in those situations if > one > > continued shooting and the bouncer roughed you up, tried to take > your > > camera, in any way assaulted or battered you. > >

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Bob W
>http://www.web-options.com/Bouncer.jpg > > You obviously did the safe thing by not taking the shot you wanted, > but I've always wondered what would happen in those situations if one > continued shooting and the bouncer roughed you up, tried to take your > camera,

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/6/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Today I was walking past the UK HQ of one of the big US banks and >noticed 3 identikit bouncers on the door. I was framing up to shoot >them, and waiting for other people to get out of the way so I could >get a clean shot, when I noticed a couple of

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread frank theriault
I noticed a couple of them start to scowl, and > one started walking towards me: > > http://www.web-options.com/Bouncer.jpg > > The usual argument ensued: > > Bouncer (East European accent): You are not allowed to photograph this > building > Me: This is a public place, I ca

Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Bob W
towards me: http://www.web-options.com/Bouncer.jpg The usual argument ensued: Bouncer (East European accent): You are not allowed to photograph this building Me: This is a public place, I can photograph whatever I like Bouncer: It is against the law Me: Are you a lawyer? Bouncer: No. It is what I have