Re: Bouncer

2007-06-27 Thread Mishka
i guess, phony beatlemania has bitten the dust? best, mishka On 6/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beetles references, were bad before but now franks lost it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/25/2007 5:08:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They're just security guards, and you have no obligation to provide them with ~any~ info. == That's what I thought. That being said, yes, if you were in a company parking lot you were on

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/25/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that the Russian girls really knock me out... I thought that was the Ukraine girls. They leave The West behind. Moscow girls make me sing and shout, that Georgia's alway on my my my my my my my my my mind... cheers, frank -- Sharpness

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Beetles references, were bad before but now franks lost it. frank theriault wrote: On 6/25/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that the Russian girls really knock me out... I thought that was the Ukraine girls. They leave The West behind. Moscow girls make me sing

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beetles references, were bad before but now franks lost it. That would be Beatles with an a... cheers, frank ;-) ps: I lost it long ago, Peter... -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Tom C
You don't know how lucky you are boys. Tom C. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Bouncer Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:52:20 -0400 On 6/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't know how lucky you are boys. Why would that be? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mishka What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank that the Russian girls really knock me out... best, mishka Ukraine girls -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Tom C
On 6/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't know how lucky you are boys. Why would that be? cheers, frank Because your Back in the US, Back in the US, Back in the USSR. Silly boy. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread frank theriault
On 6/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because your Back in the US, Back in the US, Back in the USSR. LOL! Missed that obvious one (I'm at work, and concentrating on dispatching; that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it...) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-26 Thread Mishka
i cannot really argue with you guys -- you seem to know my preferences way better than i do... best, mishka On 6/26/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mishka What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank that the Russian girls really knock me out... best,

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread frank theriault
On 6/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was doing shots for my project, I went to the Shell oil refinery in Martinez. I found a parking lot with an open gate and pulled in and parked. There was a check-in security gate further down the road, with another fence. There

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
The first step is to stop revering your war veterans as if they are some sort of heros. They aren't heros. What this reverence does is give you a national tendency to do what the military (by extension what you call the commander in chief, I believe) tells you to do without question, and to follow

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
Vote, run for office if you want to make a difference. Regards, Bob S. LOL! Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
Or am I wrong, and you've seen through the brainwashing and think police states are a good thing? William Robb Almost like old days in U.S.S.R. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Bouncer Almost like old days in U.S.S.R. You might find this of some interest: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/lies/ William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Mishka
On 6/25/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What this reverence does is give you a national tendency to do what the military (by extension what you call the commander in chief, I believe) tells you to do without question, and to follow the directives of anyone who puts on a uniform.

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread frank theriault
On 6/25/07, Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- spoken by a true USSR expert. What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Tom C
You don't have to be USSR expert. Leave out indefinite or definite article part of speech and you sound like one. :-) Tom C. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Bouncer Date: Mon, 25

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: Adam Maas mike wilson wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective military. Tell that to insert favourite terrorist organisation here. None of which are militarily effective. Politically

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Mishka
What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank that the Russian girls really knock me out... best, mishka -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: Bouncer What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank that the Russian girls really knock me out... I thought that was the Ukraine girls. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread Mishka
What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank that the Russian girls really knock me out... I thought that was the Ukraine girls. William Robb you wouldn't know the difference anyway. best, mishka -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: Bouncer What do you know about the USSR, Mishka? -frank that the Russian girls really knock me out... I thought that was the Ukraine girls. you wouldn't know the difference anyway. The education would be fun though

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-24 Thread mike wilson
Paul Sorenson wrote: The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective military. Tell that to insert favourite terrorist organisation here. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-24 Thread Adam Maas
mike wilson wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective military. Tell that to insert favourite terrorist organisation here. None of which are militarily effective. Politically Effective? Yep.

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-24 Thread Paul Sorenson
Their chain of command is just shorter... -p mike wilson wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective military. Tell that to insert favourite terrorist organisation here. -- PDML

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob W
their lawful business. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Ewins Sent: 23 June 2007 00:43 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Bouncer Speaking as an ex Bank employee, I can't believe that any bank would be so

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob W
2007 03:30 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Bouncer In a message dated 6/22/2007 1:21:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It really pisses me off when people do that. Anyway, the bank I work for is bigger than the bank he works for, so there. Bob == When I

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob W
On 22/6/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this fight, and if we can't win it, at least make it so ugly for the bullies that they back down. To do otherwise is to say goodbye to our freedoms and give our societies into the hands of

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/6/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this fight, and if we can't win it, at least make it so ugly for the bullies that they back down. To do otherwise is to say goodbye to our freedoms and give our societies into the hands of fascists of the

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault wrote: On 6/22/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I was walking past the UK HQ of one of the big US banks and noticed 3 identikit bouncers on the door. I was framing up to shoot them, and waiting for other people to get out of the way so I could get a clean shot, when I

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. -p Cotty wrote: On 22/6/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this fight, and if we can't win it, at least

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, Paul, ... Pick your battles, pick how you want to spend your time. Remember the Vietnam War -- Been there, done that. Regards, Bob S. On 6/23/07, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Bouncer He's right though, isn't he? The colonials all get it from the mother country, of course, and the ongoing struggle against The Norman Yoke. If England hadn't spawned a lot of bolshy free-thinking Anglo-Saxon peasants where would

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Bouncer Bill, Paul, ... Pick your battles, pick how you want to spend your time. Thats the attitude the modern regimes hopes it's citizens will take. They hope that we will allow them to intimidate us. They hope that we won't

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Me, too -p Bob Sullivan wrote: Bill, Paul, ... Pick your battles, pick how you want to spend your time. Remember the Vietnam War -- Been there, done that. Regards, Bob S. On 6/23/07, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 23, 2007, at 6:43 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. An extremely cogent discussion on this specific subject is presented by Al Gore in The Assault On

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Bouncer Bill, It's 'tilting at windmills.' Spent a lot of time doing that during the Vietnam era. It was mainly a waste of time. Nothing changed. War didn't stop. And that was important stuff. My recollection is different

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. The first step is to stop revering your war veterans as if they are some sort

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
enough to let them do it. -p William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. The first step is to stop

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Bouncer The Irony being you also make a terrible Canadan... How do you figure that? Or are you practicing free range bigotry again? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
for office if you want to make a difference. Regards, Bob S. On 6/23/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Bouncer Bill, Paul, ... Pick your battles, pick how you want to spend your time. Thats the attitude the modern

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Norm Baugher
Bob, He doesn't look that big, you could have taken him... Norm Bob W wrote: Today I was walking past the UK HQ of one of the big US banks and noticed 3 identikit bouncers on the door. I was framing up to shoot them, and waiting for other people to get out of the way so I could get a clean

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The Irony being you also make a terrible Canadan... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Bouncer He's right though, isn't he? The colonials all get it from the mother country, of course, and the ongoing struggle against The Norman Yoke. If England

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
: - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. The first step is to stop revering your war veterans as if they are some sort

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you would know. (I can be an asshole sometimes, you've make it a carrier). William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Bouncer The Irony being you also make a terrible Canadan... How

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
and a career, as well... P. J. Alling wrote: Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you would know. (I can be an asshole sometimes, you've make it a carrier). William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Bouncer

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer Bill - That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective military. So, yes, we do have heroes - everyone who puts

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Bouncer Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you would know. (I can be an asshole sometimes, you've make it a carrier). Carriers don't show symptoms, Peter. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
, but if you insist on making snide remarks about the US I will respond. God knows I have issues with the US government, but hell, if it weren't for it's existence, Canada might actually need to have a military. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The spell checker strikes again. See my correction, you certainly show symptoms. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Bouncer Since that seems to be your forte, I would suppose that you would know. (I can be an asshole sometimes

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Bouncer Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. I would expect no other response from you Peter. You seem to have a vested interest in the status quo, and have lost the ability to look at things from any

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Bob W
] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher Sent: 23 June 2007 15:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bouncer Bob, He doesn't look that big, you could have taken him... Norm Bob W wrote: Today I was walking past the UK HQ of one of the big US banks and noticed 3 identikit bouncers on the door. I

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Paul Sorenson Bill - That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective military. So, yes, we do have heroes - everyone who puts their all on the line at the will of their commander

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
You should look up the definition of unlawful orders sometime, it's hardly clear cut. John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Sorenson Bill - That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
From:,P. J. Alling Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling You should look up the definition of unlawful orders sometime, it's hardly clear cut. John Sessoms wrote: Fascism can only occur in the US if the military doesn't stand up to the politicians and refuse un-lawful orders. Sometimes it's not. More often it is. I

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Interspersed... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer Bill - That's where we diverge in our methodology. The unfortunate truth is that if you don't have a chain of command, you really don't have an effective military. So, yes, we

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread J
At 04:35 PM 6/23/07, you wrote: From:,P. J. Alling Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Sorenson Subject: Re: Bouncer I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. The first step is to stop revering your war veterans as if they are some sort of heros. They aren't

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Bouncer Fascism can only occur in the US if the military doesn't stand up to the politicians and refuse un-lawful orders. OK. You kinda repliedfor me in another post. Sorry, I won't reply again to this thread, it shouldn't have

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread frank theriault
On 6/22/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I was walking past the UK HQ of one of the big US banks and noticed 3 identikit bouncers on the door. I was framing up to shoot them, and waiting for other people to get out of the way so I could get a clean shot, when I noticed a couple of them

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/6/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Today I was walking past the UK HQ of one of the big US banks and noticed 3 identikit bouncers on the door. I was framing up to shoot them, and waiting for other people to get out of the way so I could get a clean shot, when I noticed a couple of

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Bob W
http://www.web-options.com/Bouncer.jpg You obviously did the safe thing by not taking the shot you wanted, but I've always wondered what would happen in those situations if one continued shooting and the bouncer roughed you up, tried to take your camera, in any way assaulted or battered you.

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob, You'e argueing with the establishment - the big business, tax paying establishment. You ain't gonna win that fight, UK, USA or wherever. Regards, Bob S. On 6/22/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Bouncer.jpg You obviously did the safe thing by not taking the

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Bouncer That being said, I'd prefer to be unhurt and poor to being black and blue (or worse) with monies in pocket. Best not to argue with such people... Still, I like the shot you got... I quite like the shot as well

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Bouncer Bob, You'e argueing with the establishment - the big business, tax paying establishment. You ain't gonna win that fight, UK, USA or wherever. Respectfully Bob, we have to fight this fight, and if we can't win

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Adam Maas
. Not a good idea, even for a merchant bank. Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bouncer Bob, You'e argueing with the establishment

RE: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Paul Ewins
, 2007 8:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bouncer Bob, You'e argueing with the establishment - the big business, tax paying establishment. You ain't gonna win that fight, UK, USA or wherever. Regards, Bob S. On 6/22/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.web-options.com

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Tom C
Having said that, I also believe that our natural tendency to comply with people to threaten to hurt us if we don't comply with their illegal wishes will ultimately cost us much more than a few bruises. William Robb I *might* have just ignored him and acted like I didn't hear him. After I was

Re: Bouncer

2007-06-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/22/2007 1:21:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It really pisses me off when people do that. Anyway, the bank I work for is bigger than the bank he works for, so there. Bob == When I was doing shots for my project, I went to the Shell oil