On 8/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Diagrams and artists renditions are always nice touches for rumors...
A better link for Zenit rumours:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=574956
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Yeah, and small sensors will improve too, just not as much. Small size
matters to people and the small sensors are here to stay. It just
shifts more of the market away from the MF or bigger formats. I'm not
saying these things won't exist, but they will be even more of a niche
market ( and
Diagrams and artists renditions are always nice touches for rumors...
Sandy Harris wrote:
On 8/6/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Sandy Harris wrote:
There have been reports that Zenit is working on a DSLR with a 4/3
sensor that will take LTM
On 8/6/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Sandy Harris wrote:
There have been reports that Zenit is working on a DSLR with a 4/3
sensor that will take LTM (Leica thread mount 39mm) kenses. Not
sure about exposure, but obviously manual focus.
Reports from
Interesting. I still think (nothing radical here and has been said by
others) that APS or 4/3 (maybe both) will be the new 35 mm and that
the 24 x 36 sensor will be the new MF. MF sensors will just be
expensive overkill for most folks, consumer, enthusiast or professional.
Sandy Harris
Already he forgets the beauty of medium and large format prints and
slides...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Interesting. I still think (nothing radical here and has been said by
others) that APS or 4/3 (maybe both) will be the new 35 mm and that
the 24 x 36 sensor will be the new MF. MF sensors
Film size and sensor size are two different things. Grain vs.
resolution and all that, and maybe wide angles. However, my argument is
a market one. LF is film and always will be. MF may hang around as a
film format. But how many folks, e.g., wedding photographers, are going
to drop the big
Quite a few studio pros shoot large format digital. You can get a 4x5 back
fitted with multiple sensors. A computer assembles the the tiled images.
Paul
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Film size and sensor size are two different
I didn't know that. Actually, I would be happy to be wrong about this
one. I would like to see variety in the available equipment. I'll be
really curious to see what happens with the 645D, especially the price.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/14/2007 11:51 AM
Quite a few studio pros shoot large format
Message -
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
I didn't know that. Actually, I would be happy to be wrong about this
one. I would like to see variety in the available equipment. I'll be
really curious to see what happens with the 645D, especially the price
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From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
I didn't know that. Actually, I would be happy to be wrong about this
one. I would like to see variety in the available equipment. I'll be
really curious to see what happens with the 645D, especially
On 15/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quite a few studio pros shoot large format digital. You can get a 4x5 back
fitted with multiple sensors. A computer assembles the the tiled images.
I've not heard of those but I understand that scanning backs are quite
popular and not
From:
Steve Desjardins
Film size and sensor size are two different things. Grain vs.
resolution and all that, and maybe wide angles. However, my argument is
a market one. LF is film and always will be. MF may hang around as a
film format. But how many folks, e.g., wedding photographers,
I've been following the entire FID (FAD/FUD ;-) ) discussion closely, since
I mainly shoot film, but also quite comfortable since I know I can count on
my local film lab to do my slide and BW development...
...Until last Friday...
When I went up to the shop to drop off a couple rolls of film, I
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From: Kamiel Wanrooij
Subject: RE: FID (Film is Dead)
It's a
shame, since they were one of two pro labs I knew about in the city.
Luckily
they kept the supplies shop open...
Consider yourself lucky you still have one pro lab at your disposal.
William Robb
(Film is Dead)
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From: Kamiel Wanrooij
Subject: RE: FID (Film is Dead)
It's a
shame, since they were one of two pro labs I knew about in the city.
Luckily
they kept the supplies shop open...
Consider yourself lucky you still have one pro lab at your disposal
From:
Steve Sharpe
At 6:33 AM -0400 8/7/07, Bob Shell wrote:
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:
I have a friend who owns another store that is virtually all film
cameras (Classic Camera in Biddeford Maine). His sales are steady as
well, though he makes most of his money
Malcolm Smith wrote:
John Sessoms wrote:
I use both digital and film. I do so because -BOTH- fill
some desire, some need I have for capturing an image. And I'm
not alone.
You're not, but at times you'd think you were. I know that when I use a film
camera where other people are using
mike wilson wrote:
I like being different. 8-)
WRT being told about digital, I've started explaining, as
you would to
a child, that I have big hands and therefore couldn't
possibly consider
downsizing.
LOL! Taking still, rather than motion film (via the proper equipment or
mobile
On the other side of the coin ...
I know all the *Pros* have gone digital - but so have all of the *IDIOTS*.
Had a woman at my mini-lab yesterday wanting to know if I had gotten one
of the kiosks fixed.
To my knowledge it wasn't broken, but who knows with the help I have; so
I asked
I have this theory.
Back in the old days (what, 3-4 years ago?) when you got serious about
photography you loaded up your camera with film. You went out and found
something to photograph, you set up your camera, then you sat around relaxing
until the light was where you wanted it. Back in the
graywolf wrote:
So film photography is like pot, whereas digital photography is like crack.
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Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
I have this theory.
Back in the old days (what, 3-4 years ago?) when you got
serious about photography you loaded up your camera with
film. You went out and found something to photograph, you set
up your camera, then you sat around relaxing
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From: John Sessoms
Subject: RE: FID (Film is Dead)
On the other side of the coin ...
I know all the *Pros* have gone digital - but so have all of the *IDIOTS*.
They were idiots shooting film a few years ago, now they have more
complications in their life
Steve Desjardins wrote:
I think part of this is that most people (Notice the most part) prefer
to shoot color in digital. So they have these nice film cameras lying
around and decide to try BW.
Actually, though I wonder what format will survive. 35 mm was
convenient but as the cameras
Bob Shell wrote:
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:
Actually, I've heard (or read) people claim that the Rollei film is
being manufactured today - by some company that bought the entire
production line from AgfaPhoto. I'm sure you find some details on the
web if you care to
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:
I have a friend who owns another store that is virtually all film
cameras (Classic Camera in Biddeford Maine). His sales are steady as
well, though he makes most of his money repairing film cameras. He
has as much repair business as he can
Mark Cassino wrote:
OK - so when a superior technology comes along, the old technology dies
off and is gone completely.
Like horse drawn buggies (replaced by automobiles):
http://www.liveryone.net/
snip
Good points, all. And they probably illustrate the ultimate end of
film: That of a small
You're not on point though Dave (IMO). I cannot go and buy a new vinyl
record of any CD I want, can I?
Obviously, you can't, but I wouldn't be surprised if you get a higher
percentage on vinyl today than you did, say, 10 years ago.
Just after CDs got popular. vinyl was just plain obsolete.
The proper spelling is Y'all :-)
Bill
You'all just don't seem to be getting it.
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OK, just how hard is it to produce BW film? I know to produce as much
as Kodak or Fuji used to involves enormous QC issues. I can make beer
in my kitchen whereas Budweiser needs fancy techniques to make 12% of
the beer on the planet. So how hard would it be for a small company to
put a BW
Not just nostalgia, the special Master recordings available on Vinyl are
the best sound available bar none, given a half competent turntable and
amplifier. No CD I ever listened to could match them, and my ear isn't
the best. That said I'm sure that some people just buy on rumor.
Toralf Lund
On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:
OK, just how hard is it to produce BW film? I know to produce as
much
as Kodak or Fuji used to involves enormous QC issues. I can make beer
in my kitchen whereas Budweiser needs fancy techniques to make 12% of
the beer on the planet.
From:
William Robb
The industry as a whole is showing declines in sales of sensitized
products (film) of some 20% per year, Fuji is (apparently) no longer
making BW film or film cameras, Agfa is no longer making film, Kodak
is no longer making BW paper and has offshored their film
From:
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William Robb wrote:
You'all just don't seem to be getting it.
OK - so when a superior technology comes along, the old technology
dies off and is gone completely.
Like horse drawn buggies (replaced by automobiles):
http://www.liveryone.net/
Bows and arrows (replaced
Partly it because as a society we are rich enough to keep things going
for more than purely utilitarian purposes. Since most of photography
was always a luxury I don't think it will change.
John Sessoms wrote:
From:
Mark Cassino
William Robb wrote:
You'all just don't seem to be
John Sessoms wrote:
I use both digital and film. I do so because -BOTH- fill
some desire, some need I have for capturing an image. And I'm
not alone.
You're not, but at times you'd think you were. I know that when I use a film
camera where other people are using cameras, I'm usually (read
I'm not the least bit nostalgic for the good ol' days.
Cheers,
Dave
I'm the exact opposite. I've owned 4 DSLR's and a pair of compact PS's.
But I just keep shooting film more and more. I just enjoy working with
it more than digital.
I bought my first DSLR last December. I still use
You are completely wrong about one thing Bubweiser is NOT beer...
Norm
Steve Desjardins wrote:
OK, just how hard is it to produce BW film? I know to produce as much
as Kodak or Fuji used to involves enormous QC issues. I can make beer
in my kitchen whereas Budweiser needs fancy techniques to
On Aug 7, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Norm Baugher wrote:
You are completely wrong about one thing Bubweiser is NOT beer...
I was so bored last weekend that I watched a bad movie on the SciFi
channel. There was a scene in this movie in a redneck bar and I
noticed that they had changed all the
Budweiser is more like beer than Coors is, (though that isn't saying much).
Norm Baugher wrote:
You are completely wrong about one thing Bubweiser is NOT beer...
Norm
Steve Desjardins wrote:
OK, just how hard is it to produce BW film? I know to produce as much
as Kodak or Fuji used to
I'm a theoretical chemist. I only go by what it says on the bottle.
Steve and his fridge full of Shiner Bock and Guinness
Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2007 3:45 PM
You are completely wrong about one thing Bubweiser is NOT beer...
Norm
Steve Desjardins wrote:
OK, just how hard is it to
At 6:33 AM -0400 8/7/07, Bob Shell wrote:
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:
I have a friend who owns another store that is virtually all film
cameras (Classic Camera in Biddeford Maine). His sales are steady as
well, though he makes most of his money repairing film cameras. He
- Original Message -
From: Steve Sharpe
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
My friend has commented on that as well, in that most digital cameras
(and he was referring to point and shoots) are not designed to be
repairable if something goes wrong. So, the cost of actually
repairing one
On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Sandy Harris wrote:
There have been reports that Zenit is working on a DSLR with a 4/3
sensor that will take LTM (Leica thread mount 39mm) kenses. Not
sure about exposure, but obviously manual focus.
Reports from whom? Where?
I personally know one of the
P. J. Alling wrote:
Mark Roberts wrote:
And who could forget the song Ghost of Stephen Foster by the
Squirrel
Nut Zippers!
I'm sure if I heard it, it would be pretty unforgettable.
I've never seen them in person but I hear they put on a really great
show. Their video for the song in
I thought they were done as well, but they are still showing
product on
their website.
Ain't refrigerated warehouses grand!! They did one last production
of several films before they shut down and those are projected to
last from two to five years. Rollei bought the
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:
Actually, I've heard (or read) people claim that the Rollei film is
being manufactured today - by some company that bought the entire
production line from AgfaPhoto. I'm sure you find some details on the
web if you care to search for it, which I
I think part of this is that most people (Notice the most part) prefer
to shoot color in digital. So they have these nice film cameras lying
around and decide to try BW.
Actually, though I wonder what format will survive. 35 mm was
convenient but as the cameras start to break and are not
On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:01 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:
... Use your digital camera as a light meter. ...
LOL ... this is funny.
Oskar Barnack invented the 35mm still camera as a device to check
exposure for 35mm cine work. It was then discovered that a miniature
format still camera allowed
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Were the strange customers digital users?
Yup. Ex film users to be exact.
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- Original Message -
From: Toralf Lund
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Also, according to a guy at a local photo shop, there is a reasonable
demand for it. And for stuff like Tri-X etc. The same shop apparently
had bw film sales of virtually 0 a couple of years ago. So maybe bw
Film not only is, it has been superceded by an alternative technology that
has been embraced not only by the professional community, but also by the
mainstream user.
Film may see a renaissance of sorts, though I doubt it. More likely, within
a very few years it will become so financially
In a message dated 8/5/2007 8:14:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Interesting thread.
By coincidence I was visiting an old friend last week who runs one of
the country's few camera shops that still sells film cameras almost
exclusively. (John's Camera in
On 8/6/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Film not only is, it has been superceded by an alternative technology that
has been embraced not only by the professional community, but also by the
mainstream user.
Film may see a renaissance of sorts, though I doubt it. More likely, within
a very
Same for the survey business, i was recently retired from.
All the new kids are learning the computer, GPS, Total station way of
surveying.No one teaches trhe old Art of surveying. How to determine
boundaries etc.
If something happens, they don't know how to pull out a chain and a
right angle
I took a BW photography and darkroom class back in my twenties, many long,
long years ago. (It did not make me a good photographer, I was a lousy
photographer for about 30 years). While I think photographers starting out
today
are better off focusing on the digital darkroom, darkroom work
Agreed.
I always felt i was not a very good photographer, untill i took some
classes and began to understand more.
Dave
On 8/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I took a BW photography and darkroom class back in my twenties, many long,
long years ago. (It did not make me a good
I don't know tons of young photographers, but those into the craft, use
film. Those who use digital just make reality TV with no arr or
thought. It serves them but these are the same people who bought PS
cameras. I expect that there will always be a market for BW materials,
and as I pointed
From:
Tom C
Film may see a renaissance of sorts, though I doubt it. More likely,
within
a very few years it will become so financially unworthwhile to
manufacture
that even the Chinese will give up on making it, and that will be the
end of
the line for it.
This is the statement I agree
Yeah, so I can just go down and take my pick right? Any new CD, any old CD
still in distribution, I can go get a brand new vinyl version? I don't
think so.
Vinyl is dead in in the eyes of the vast music buying public. From what I
understand CD's are going the same route when it comes to
David J Brooks wrote:
I recently took some BW negs to the guy on Danforth Ave, that Frank
and i use. He is really slow, and is contemplating shutting the little
shop he has down and run a digital print lab at home. No more wet BW
prints.
To bad as he does a very good job.
Sadly, this is
Support your first sentence with facts please.
Tom C.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:30:40 -0400
I don't know tons of young photographers
Can't agree totally on that Tom..
Vinyl seems to be holding on to a share in this area, small but still..
One of the bigger stereo places that have been around for a long time,
are advertising players again.
My records are going no were.:-)
Dave
On 8/6/07, Tom Cakalic [EMAIL
In a message dated 8/5/2007 10:18:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That hit the nail on the head. Long before digital I found my self
unable to find a custom lab that was consistently good. And the WalMart
type of lab was orrfull... I believe that most of the serious
and
one camera body to expose it with. ;-)
Tom C.
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Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 13:56:49 -0400
Can't agree totally on that Tom..
Vinyl seems
Well, what I see here is that there are a lot of consumers on the list. If you
can not buy something just anywhere, it does not exist. Even in Boone there is
a couple of stores you can buy new (and old) vinyl at. Come to think of it that
is a couple more than you could buy BW film at even
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Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:05:35 -0400
Well, what I see here is that there are a lot of consumers on the list. If
you can not buy something just anywhere, it does not exist. Even in Boone
there is a couple of stores you can buy
Tom Cakalic wrote:
Of course vinyl LP's still exist. Just go down and try to get the
exact album, you're looking for though.
How many vinyl albums has anyone on this list bought in the last year?
I have a high end stereo system with a Linn Sondek turntable and though
I still listen to the
Plus-X
Tom C wrote:
http://www.telegram.com/article/20070802/APF/708020637
What was that weird plasticky stuff we used to put in the backs of camera
bodies that caused us long waits to get our photos back?
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I would guess not many, at $30 - $50 a whack.
Tom C.
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Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:05:31 -0400 (EDT)
Tom Cakalic wrote:
Of course
Hell you can buy a turntable with a USB connector...
David J Brooks wrote:
Can't agree totally on that Tom..
Vinyl seems to be holding on to a share in this area, small but
still..
One of the bigger stereo places that have been around for a long time,
are advertising players
On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am taking a Landscape Photography from a young guy, about 24-26,
who is
shooting with a Hasselblad (pretty sure that is it). He sells his
work through
galleries and says there are about 10 photographers in the Bay
Area making
be
choosing film over digital.
Heck, I like film and can't seem to move myself to use the remaining film
I've already purchased.
Tom C.
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Date
pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:30:40 -0400
I don't know tons of young photographers, but those into the craft, use
film. Those who use digital just make reality TV with no arr or
thought. It serves them but these are the same people who bought PS
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Hell you can buy a turntable with a USB connector...
David J Brooks wrote:
Can't agree totally on that Tom
P. J. Alling wrote:
Nobody's buying CDs either MP3 has replaced it, or so I hear
Nonsense. Sales are down, to be sure, but they're still running at
about 81 million CDs per quarter. I bought two today. And I'd be
surprised if you could fine a Target, Wal-Mart or any other big box
store that
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Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:30:40 -0400
I don't know tons of young photographers, but those into the craft, use
film. Those who use digital just make reality TV with no arr or
thought. It serves
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Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:06:27 -0400
I think you're being dogmatic. Who the hell said anything about pro
photographers. As I said, to expand a bit, I know a number of kids in
their late teens and early twenties who
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My personal guess is that traditional BW film and paper will remain as
a fine art niche product. The selection will be drastically limited, but
I suspect there will always be enough demand for prints made with
traditional photographic processes to keep some manufacturers going.
I'm less
Yup, a whole lot of consumin going on
Kenneth Waller
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From: Tom Cakalic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
You're right. There's a lot of consumers on this list because...
Multiple Choice:
1. I consume
He ain't dead yet
- Monty Python
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Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
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From: Kenneth Waller
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Yup, a whole lot of consumin going on
The industry as a whole is showing declines in sales of sensitized products
(film) of some 20% per year, Fuji is (apparently) no longer making BW film
or film
- Original Message -
From: Mark Cassino
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
I'm less optimistic for demand for color film and paper.
Colour paper will be around for as long as people still want colour prints.
The technology is mature and is cheap, hence places like Wal-Mart selling
I see your FID and raise you a FAD (Film Ain't Dead).
On Aug 6, 2007, at 8:22 PM, William Robb wrote:
The industry as a whole is showing declines in sales of sensitized
products
(film) of some 20% per year, Fuji is (apparently) no longer making
BW film
or film cameras, Agfa is no longer
At 2:07 PM -0700 8/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If film is dead, why do I see a lot of slr photographers toting around
those antique film cameras? I still enjoy using my LX, ESII, Canon
T90, and my Leica M2.
A few weeks ago I was at the tall ships festival in Halifax. I was
shooting away
I have a friend who owns another store that is virtually all film
cameras (Classic Camera in Biddeford Maine). His sales are steady as
well, though he makes most of his money repairing film cameras. He
has as much repair business as he can handle. People want to hang
onto their film cameras.
Bob Shell wrote:
I see your FID and raise you a FAD (Film Ain't Dead).
Personally, I think we are seeing a lot of FUD...
(Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt - made popular by various giants of data
processing...)
- MCC
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At 09:48 AM 7/08/2007, Mark Cassino wrote:
Bob Shell wrote:
I see your FID and raise you a FAD (Film Ain't Dead).
Personally, I think we are seeing a lot of FUD...
(Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt - made popular by various giants of data
processing...)
- MCC
Personally I don't give a FUK one way
David Savage wrote:
At 09:48 AM 7/08/2007, Mark Cassino wrote:
Bob Shell wrote:
I see your FID and raise you a FAD (Film Ain't Dead).
Personally, I think we are seeing a lot of FUD...
(Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt - made popular by various giants of data
processing...)
- MCC
Personally I
William Robb wrote:
You'all just don't seem to be getting it.
OK - so when a superior technology comes along, the old technology dies
off and is gone completely.
Like horse drawn buggies (replaced by automobiles):
http://www.liveryone.net/
Bows and arrows (replaced by guns):
Ah, come on, everyone knows that an I-Phone produces better photos than a Hassy.
graywolf
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http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
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At 2:07 PM -0700 8/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If
David Savage wrote:
On 8/7/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Savage wrote:
Personally I don't give a FUK one way or the other about the future of film.
I've shot one roll in 2 years. It was fun when it was the only option
available, but I now find digital just as much, if not
On 8/7/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Savage wrote:
Personally I don't give a FUK one way or the other about the future of film.
I've shot one roll in 2 years. It was fun when it was the only option
available, but I now find digital just as much, if not more, enjoyable.
Maybe I should save the Fuji slide film I have for a future Ebay offering?
Kenneth Waller
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
- Original Message -
From: Kenneth Waller
Subject: Re: FID (Film
Times are a changing I think as well as many others that I know, students
should still learn about the darkroom side of photography. There is a tech
school in my county that still is teaching the darkroom side of photography as
part of he course. It's just like the automotive world, there
However, this causes in the end a new problem. New students will no
longer understand much of the old-days-language which has been
transferred to the modern digital technology. My daughter (now two
years old) will ask me later why the sensitivity of the camera should
be set on
to
send posts to the list from the internet connection at my house. I have
no idea why. I have to wait until I come into my office.
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/3/2007 1:34 PM
- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)
Film (at least BW) still
I do have to agree that a plain old photography course should be taught
in the digital medium. Quite simply, it*s the dominant medium for
those who take snapshots and those who do photography for a living. If
people are going to have digital cameras in their hands, that that*s
what they should
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