Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nothing is to stupid to be debated on this list! G: Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I disagree. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Bill
On 19/12/2013 3:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nothing is to stupid to be debated on this list! G: You'll know it's too stupid to debate when I wade in. /thread bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nothing is to stupid to be debated on this list! G: Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I disagree. No you don't! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com --

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark - did you pay for the arguement?? ann On 12/19/2013 17:32, Mark Roberts wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nothing is to stupid to be debated on this list! G: Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I disagree. No

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 04:56:41PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nothing is to stupid to be debated on this list! G: Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I disagree. You're right, that should be Nobody

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 04:29:34PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I'm just trying to insert a bit of levity into a weighty situation. Of course, many photographs are art. Anything by HC-B, and much of that by AA, for easy examples. I don't know about that, you saw what happened when one of

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nothing is to stupid to be debated on this list! G: Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I disagree. No you don't! -- Mark

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: /thread Heh. Optimist. Try mentioning the war. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Bill
On 19/12/2013 6:10 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: /thread Heh. Optimist. Try mentioning the war. Don't ever mention the war -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'll never get over Macho Grande! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/12/2013 6:10 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread John
The topic got passing mention at my weekly nature photography group brunch today. A comment was made that it's art when a photograph needs a paragraph to explain what it's about. But that got me to thinking. How do you know if it's a photograph that needs a paragraph or a paragraph that needs a

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote: A comment was made that it's art when a photograph needs a paragraph to explain what it's about. The more words there are on a gallery wall next to a picture, the worse the picture. - Gustave Flaubert -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread DagT
2013 23:23 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: What is photographic art? I don´t care if my pictures are art or not. It doesn´t make them any better. DagT 17. des. 2013 kl. 23:03 skrev Walt ldott...@gmail.com: Of course my photos are art. And so is everything else I do if you leave

RE: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John The topic got passing mention at my weekly nature photography group brunch today. A comment was made that it's art when a photograph needs a paragraph to explain what it's about. But that got me to thinking. How do you

RE: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts John wrote: A comment was made that it's art when a photograph needs a paragraph to explain what it's about. The more words there are on a gallery wall next to a picture, the worse the picture. - Gustave Flaubert

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread Stan Halpin
Earlier in this thread someone mentioned the example of mobiles: once art, now the baby-crib attachment to keep ankle-biters occupied. We watch Antiques Roadshow on PBS. The other evening they had a Calder miniature mobile, appraised at $1M. My mother-in-law's caregiver (NOT a sophisticate)

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread Stan Halpin
And to finish my thought... On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Earlier in this thread someone mentioned the example of mobiles: once art, now the baby-crib attachment to keep ankle-biters occupied. We watch Antiques Roadshow on PBS. The other evening they had a Calder

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote: And this is why I disagree with the notion that if it takes more words to describe, it must be of lower quality. It might also be the case that the public doesn't understand that artist's language. I agree with you on that. So, I think, would Gustave Flaubert, because I

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: DagT Dato: 17. desember 2013 23:23 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: What is photographic art? I don´t care if my pictures are art or not. It doesn´t make them any better. DagT 17. des. 2013 kl. 23:03 skrev Walt ldott...@gmail.com: Of course my photos are art

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-17 Thread Walt
Of course my photos are art. And so is everything else I do if you leave it to me to be the judge. -- Walt On 12/16/2013 8:45 AM, CollinB wrote: When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. (eg, the mobile went from an

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-17 Thread Ken Waller
Mine must be because I frame em! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: What is photographic art? Of course my photos are art. And so is everything else I do if you leave it to me

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-17 Thread DagT
I don´t care if my pictures are art or not. It doesn´t make them any better. DagT 17. des. 2013 kl. 23:03 skrev Walt ldott...@gmail.com: Of course my photos are art. And so is everything else I do if you leave it to me to be the judge. -- Walt On 12/16/2013 8:45 AM, CollinB wrote:

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
-Opprinnelig melding- From: CollinB When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. Ironically, that seems not to apply to rhetorics. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Bill
On 16/12/2013 8:58 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: -Opprinnelig melding- From: CollinB When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. Ironically, that seems not to apply to rhetorics. :-) Jostein I'm

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Miserere
CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. (eg, the mobile went from an art form to a baby crib toy) Kodak is to blame for the change in photography and that was about a century ago.

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: From: CollinB When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. Ironically, that seems not to apply to rhetorics. :-) grin -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:45:51AM -0500, CollinB wrote: When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. The only people who are bigger wankers than self proclaimed artists, are the people who debate about what qualifies as art. Photos can be used to express

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: The only people who are bigger wankers than self proclaimed artists, are the people who debate about what qualifies as art. Have I mentioned lately that the 2013 PDML Quotations List will be out next week? -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:20:11PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: The only people who are bigger wankers than self proclaimed artists, are the people who debate about what qualifies as art. Have I mentioned lately that the 2013 PDML Quotations List will be out next week?

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread CollinB
Well you woke up bored, didn't you, Collin? :-D Cheers, -M. Reading too much Feyerabend. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread CollinB
And some of us don't give a shit, we just like playing with our toys. If we get pretty pictures in the process, so much the better. Larry Nobody said we couldn't have fun. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. (eg, the mobile went from an art form to a baby crib toy) Kodak is to blame for the change in

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread John
If I think it's art, then it's art ... at least as far as I'm concerned. Your mileage may vary. Professional driver on a closed course. Do not try this at home. Standard disclaimers apply. On 12/16/2013 3:58 PM, Attila Boros wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, CollinB

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:45:51AM -0500, CollinB wrote: When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. And some of us don't give a shit, we just like playing with our toys. If we get pretty pictures in the process, so

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread P.J. Alling
On 12/16/2013 1:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: The only people who are bigger wankers than self proclaimed artists, are the people who debate about what qualifies as art. Have I mentioned lately that the 2013 PDML Quotations List will be out next week? So you're saying

Re: What is photographic art?

2013-12-16 Thread P.J. Alling
I've seen a lot of art where the if the artist was trying to evoke the feelings of disgust they succeeded admirably, however I don't think that /I/ would call that art. On 12/16/2013 3:58 PM, Attila Boros wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: When a

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-12-01 Thread P.J. Alling
What do you think, Ricoh is Leica? There are only two manufactures photography that could get away with making such a special purpose device as a monochrome only digital camera, and only three that might actually try it. Leica already makes such a beast, and will probably make a profit on

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-12-01 Thread Christine Aguila
No, I don't think I would. Too limiting. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Would you buy it? There would be a lot to gain in resolution and sensitivity by eliminating the color filter. Big bonuses if you tend to shoot

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-30 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/29/2013 9:55 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: And likewise for me as well. Although I work almost entirely in BW, the conversion tools in ACR and Photoshop have become key elements in establishing each shot’s tonality. I wouldn’t be willing to give that up in exchange for whatever resolution

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-30 Thread John
On 11/29/2013 2:55 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On 11/29/2013 12:01 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: Would you buy it? No. Likewise. And likewise for me as

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Miserere
Some questions for you: * Assuming you gain sensitivity by using a monochrome sensor, then you would lose it by placing a coloured filter in front of it. * So what have you gained in the end? The K-3 already seems to have plenty of resolution; what will you do with all the extra rez? * What

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread John
On 11/29/2013 12:01 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: Would you buy it? No. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread CollinB
Would I buy it? No. I'm afraid the market would be too small for such a beast. But given that what will you do with all the extra rez? That is what we BW film people make the most use of. All that detail on the neg just waiting to be burned in. It's the texture of

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On 11/29/2013 12:01 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: Would you buy it? No. Likewise. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Zos Xavius
In looking at some more examples, it seems that removing the AA filter offers the most benefit, while removing the CFA offers only marginal improvements, though there are gains to be had for astrophotographers. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri,

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Marco Alpert
On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On 11/29/2013 12:01 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: Would you buy it? No. Likewise. And likewise for me as well. Although I work almost entirely in BW,

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Would you buy it? Of course not. One of the benefits of shooting BW film is being able to change between different films with different spectral responses. Buying a camera that was BW only would be like locking yourself into, say, Ilford FP4, and never

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Would I buy it? No. For some reason, the notion of an SLR system camera that is monochrome only does not appeal to me at all. I do, however, consider the possibility of trading my Leica M9 (and some frighteningly large chunk of cash) for a Leica M Monochrom, however. G -- PDML

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:01:56PM -0500, Zos Xavius wrote: Would you buy it? There would be a lot to gain in resolution and sensitivity by eliminating the color filter. Big bonuses if you tend to shoot in black and white a great deal anyways. I realize the downsides of having to use filters

Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3?

2013-11-29 Thread Dario Bonazza
originale- From: Marco Alpert Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 8:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What if Pentax made a monochrome K-3? On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: What LR web-gallery plugins are you using (know)?

2013-10-10 Thread Larry Colen
For light room plugins just go to Jeff Freidl's site. http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 08:17:45PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All! I've been using TTG web-plugins in LR for creating web galleries. http://theturninggate.net At some point I

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-07 Thread steve harley
on 2013-10-06 22:50 David Mann wrote On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: Been a word for something like two decades, at least in geek communities. I've known it in that context for a while too, but I haven't found it in any of our dictionaries. Our Shorter Oxford

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Eactivist
LOL. This is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time. Too bad it is too long for a MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:07:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, s...@stans-photography.info writes: Tarnation is an oxidization process that affects fine silver. The

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Eactivist
Egad, administrivia is really a word??? Marnie aka Doe ;-) Although, when you think about it, it's a very apt word. In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:14:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, godd...@me.com writes: administrivia: becoming common shorthand for administrative trivia, trans.: here's a

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Eactivist
LOL. Okay, another one. MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) These are much better than puns, guys. But not sure what to call them, made-up definitions? In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:26:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Portmanteaux is a syndrome suffered by fellows

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Bob W
On 6 Oct 2013, at 08:56, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: LOL. Okay, another one. MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) These are much better than puns, guys. But not sure what to call them, made-up definitions? Funny you should ask that, because the correct name for such a word is an 'akado'. The

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Egad, administrivia is really a word??? Been a word for something like two decades, at least in geek communities. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * *

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 10/6/2013 03:56, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: LOL. Okay, another one. MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) These are much better than puns, guys. As good as, anyway Remember this is the Puns Daily Make (us) Laugh list! ann But not sure what to call them, made-up definitions? In a message dated

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Eactivist
Uh huh. Sorry, Bob, you don't get a mark. I mean you've ALWAYS made things up. Definitions/tall tales. Which by the way, in old English that was defined as being long-nosed lier. Optional adjective, wooden. Which, BTW, derives from the word, lyre. Due to the fact it was struck with a

RE: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eactiv...@aol.com Uh huh. Sorry, Bob, you don't get a mark. I mean you've ALWAYS made things up. Definitions/tall tales. Which by the way, in old English that was defined as being long-nosed lier. Optional adjective, wooden.

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread Eactivist
Okay, that's a good one. LOL. BTW, I wasn't even trying to out piss-artist you. No way, on either side of the pond, could I succeed. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/6/2013 7:47:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net]

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-06 Thread David Mann
On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Egad, administrivia is really a word??? Been a word for something like two decades, at least in geek communities. I've known it in that context for a while too, but I haven't

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-05 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:03:01AM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Hmmm how did this get from my riff on the Steinberg New Yorker Cover regarding Cotty once living in California (after someone joked about his Britness)to a serious discussion of the Hudson

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 07:48:29AM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:03:01AM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Hmmm how did this get from my riff on the Steinberg New Yorker Cover regarding Cotty once living in California (after

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Hmmm how did this get from my riff on the Steinberg New Yorker Cover regarding Cotty once living in California (after someone joked about his Britness)to a serious discussion of the Hudson River? I had hoped I had released a jolly play-on-words thread. Oh well ann On 10/3/2013 22:43, P.J.

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:03:01AM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Hmmm how did this get from my riff on the Steinberg New Yorker Cover regarding Cotty once living in California (after someone joked about his Britness)to a serious discussion of the Hudson River? I had hoped I had released a jolly

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Bob W
On 3 Oct 2013, at 05:49, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/10/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I get that when my crappy ipad decides to send something as html. Hmm. My email app on my Macbook is set to text only. So is mine, but every now and then when I paste a

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Bob W
On 3 Oct 2013, at 05:50, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/10/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty lived for a bit on this side of the big pond - somewhat west of the Hudson river I believe :-) There's a river named after Rock Hudson? Cool. ;-) It flows both

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/10/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: So is mine, but every now and then when I paste a link it decides that it knows better. Aha -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread steve harley
on 2013-10-02 16:54 Bruce Walker wrote Cotty, email list handling software traditionally accepts meta commands within submitted messages to do things like subscribe, unsubscribe, list the subscribers, etc. They are usually only interpreted immediately following a newline. This list has had these

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread P.J. Alling
What it probably means is that you inadvertently included something other than plain text. On 10/2/2013 4:42 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain 'administriva'. Can someone please tell me

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread P.J. Alling
I think Rock pretty much flowed one way, he was just a very good actor. On 10/3/2013 3:35 AM, Bob W wrote: On 3 Oct 2013, at 05:50, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/10/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty lived for a bit on this side of the big pond - somewhat

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On 10/3/2013 3:35 AM, Bob W wrote: On 3 Oct 2013, at 05:50, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/10/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty lived for a bit on this side of the big pond - somewhat west of the Hudson river I believe :-) There's a river named after Rock

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:03:12PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On 10/3/2013 3:35 AM, Bob W wrote: On 3 Oct 2013, at 05:50, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/10/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty lived for a bit on this side of the big pond - somewhat

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread steve harley
on 2013-10-03 13:11 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:03:12PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't think the Hudson River flows south either. Although, depending on the tides, it probably flows both directions right at the opening. not just the opening — in flood tide, it flows

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:27 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-10-03 13:11 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:03:12PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't think the Hudson River flows south either. Although, depending on the tides, it probably flows both directions

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:35:24PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:27 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-10-03 13:11 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:03:12PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't think the Hudson River flows south

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread P.J. Alling
On 10/3/2013 4:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:35:24PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:27 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-10-03 13:11 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:03:12PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread steve harley
on 2013-10-03 14:43 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:35:24PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:27 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-10-03 13:11 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:03:12PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't think

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 03:23:12PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-10-03 14:43 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:35:24PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:27 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-10-03 13:11 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03,

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Bob W
On 3 Oct 2013, at 20:35, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:27 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-10-03 13:11 Larry Colen wrote On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:03:12PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't think the Hudson River flows south either.

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread steve harley
on 2013-10-03 15:40 Larry Colen wrote I wonder what the elevation of the river is 140 miles upstream. mean elevation of Hudson River at Albany is 2 feet above sea level (per a USGS site via google cache due to government shutdown) High tides much over, what?, a meter?, are probably a bit

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/10/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I wonder what the elevation of the river is 140 miles upstream. High tides much over, what?, a meter?, are probably a bit unusual, and tidal effects are probably mostly limited by the elevation of the river surface, and the high tide level.

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 11:56:14PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 3/10/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I wonder what the elevation of the river is 140 miles upstream. High tides much over, what?, a meter?, are probably a bit unusual, and tidal effects are probably mostly

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-03 Thread P.J. Alling
The Hudson River is geologically considered to be a fiord so it's pretty close to sea level. The Connecticut River which geographically isn't a fiord is tidal to about 30 miles inland. On 10/3/2013 5:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 03:23:12PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain 'administriva'. Can someone please tell me what in tarnation is this? I need an adequate definition of tarnation first. (Seriously, I've always wondered what

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 10/2/2013 3:42 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain 'administriva'. Can someone please tell me what in tarnation is this? My guess is that it's a portmanteau of administrative and trivia.

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Attila Boros
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I need an adequate definition of tarnation first. There you go: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tarnation Also, according to my English-Hungarian dictionary it's an americanism. Why would a fine English

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 10/2/2013 16:49, Mark Roberts wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain 'administriva'. Can someone please tell me what in tarnation is this? I need an adequate definition of tarnation

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well, according to your like, James Joyce used it. I hear he was passably literate, and certainly not American. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Mark Roberts

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Bob W
On 2 Oct 2013, at 21:49, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain 'administriva'. Can someone please tell me what in tarnation is this? I need an

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Attila Boros
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, according to your like, James Joyce used it. I hear he was passably literate, and certainly not American. I stand corrected. I knew I can't trust this thing too much. -- Attila -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Bob W
On 2 Oct 2013, at 21:42, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain 'administriva'. Can someone please tell me what in tarnation is this? I get that when my crappy ipad decides

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Cotty lived for a bit on this side of the big pond - somewhat west of the Hudson river I believe :-) ann On 10/2/2013 17:04, Attila Boros wrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I need an adequate definition of tarnation first. There you go:

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Cotty, email list handling software traditionally accepts meta commands within submitted messages to do things like subscribe, unsubscribe, list the subscribers, etc. They are usually only interpreted immediately following a newline. This list has had these meta commands disabled AFAICT, but if

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Stan Halpin
Tarnation is an oxidization process that affects fine silver. The effete elite would probably rather speak of patination, not realizing that patination is not the acquisition of a patina, but rather the process of acquiring a patent. stan On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Steve

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 2, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain 'administriva'. Can someone please tell me what in tarnation is this? I need

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:13:16PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 2, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed pending review by Doug - and that my post may contain

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:13:16PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 2, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Had an email back from the list saying my post is delayed

Re: What is 'administrivia' ??

2013-10-02 Thread Doug Brewer
On 10/2/13 6:54 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Cotty, email list handling software traditionally accepts meta commands within submitted messages to do things like subscribe, unsubscribe, list the subscribers, etc. They are usually only interpreted immediately following a newline. This list has had

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