Re: Semi OT: History amplified

Rick In Mafikeng, I would say it was used to crush stone for building purposes (concrete). The SA Phosphate Co. was formed in 1953 to investigate the beneficiation of the mineral Pyroxenite (essentially Calcium Phosphate - abundant in the Phalaborwa area) to be used for the manufacture of Sup

Re: Semi OT: History amplified

Alan, was that used for crushing coal, crushing ore, or something else? Rick > On Nov 28, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Alan C wrote: > > You may recall this shot I posted in the October PUG? > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/52528837587/ > > Well, I was looking for more details & found thi

Semi OT: History amplified

You may recall this shot I posted in the October PUG? https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/52528837587/ Well, I was looking for more details & found this copy of the 1900 NY Engineering & Mining Journal with a drawing of the exact crusher on p 17.  Scroll R for the other. https://www.f

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

On 9/17/2022 2:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 16, 2022, at 4:35 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I'm re-reading /Halting State/ by Charles Stross. Right up front are the "acknowledgements" and whose name should appear but our own Larry Colen. Yeah, I was one of his friends that would read and co

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

This is an Intel processor (i5) iMac and the version of CS6 I have is full 64 bit ... but it is Windoze, so I'd be looking for a Mac 64bit version. I've been using Photoshop since at least Photoshop 5. Don't remember 6, but I had 7, CS, CS2, CS3, (skipped CS4), CS5 and CS6 Extended. Adobe pis

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

Photoshop CS6 won’t run on a new iMac 27. It won’t even run on my 2015 iMac with the current version of OSX installed. But the subscription version of PS and Lightroom work great. I think I pay $10 monthly. Best software purchase ever. And I’ve had at least 10 versions of Photoshop going back to

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

> On Sep 16, 2022, at 11:49 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > >> On 17/09/2022 07:38 Larry Colen wrote: > >> I can empathize, recently gave in on that battle. I updated my mac pro to >> mojave and that broke it on LR 6, so I tried LRC, and that wouldn’t work on >> Mojave, so I had to hack it to

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

> On 17/09/2022 07:38 Larry Colen wrote: > I can empathize, recently gave in on that battle. I updated my mac pro to > mojave and that broke it on LR 6, so I tried LRC, and that wouldn’t work on > Mojave, so I had to hack it to install Catalina. Monday evening I got home > and it booted up

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

> On Sep 16, 2022, at 4:35 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > > I'm re-reading /Halting State/ by Charles Stross. Right up front are the > "acknowledgements" and whose name should appear but our own Larry Colen. Yeah, I was one of his friends that would read and comment while he was writing it. I kno

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

It didn't say On 9/16/2022 7:39 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: One has to ask - for what was Larry  ack nowledged for? ann On 9/16/2022 7:35 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I'm re-reading /Halting State/ by Charles Stross. Right up front are the "acknowledgements" and whose name should appear but our own La

Re: Something semi-OT but intersting

One has to ask - for what was Larry  ack nowledged for? ann On 9/16/2022 7:35 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I'm re-reading /Halting State/ by Charles Stross. Right up front are the "acknowledgements" and whose name should appear but our own Larry Colen. PS: *NEVER* go shopping on an empty stomach.

Something semi-OT but intersting

I'm re-reading /Halting State/ by Charles Stross. Right up front are the "acknowledgements" and whose name should appear but our own Larry Colen. PS: *NEVER* go shopping on an empty stomach. Stopped by Costco on the way home from the dentist to pick up some cheese (they have my favorite REALLY

Re: Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

On 9/1/2021 1:58 AM, John wrote: 35mm film cameras based on relevance today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piHi1dvsGX0&t=1s Thanks for posting this link - I really enjoyed the video. I've been shooting pretty much just film in the past couple of year, mostly 120. But I recently took a trip

Re: Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

On 9/1/2021 02:43:10, mike wilson wrote: On 01 September 2021 at 06:58 John wrote: 35mm film cameras based on relevance today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piHi1dvsGX0&t=1s Based on relevance today, they should all be P&S models. The usual suspects at the top but 2 out of 10 is not b

Re: Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 10:27:12PM -0400, John Francis wrote: > > I know I didn't have the 250-600 during the 1998 season - I was shooting in > the > Corkscrew until the lap before "The Pass" (using the 80-200), but I left to > get > down to the pit lane in good time for the podium ceremonies.

Re: Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:36:55PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Good times. I enjoyed that weekend. I think you had just bought your FA > 250-600. > I believe I got that lens some time in 1999, so I had it for the 2000 weekend. (See http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/CityStreets.jpg for suppor

Re: Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

Good times. I enjoyed that weekend. I think you had just bought your FA 250-600. Paul > On Sep 1, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John Francis wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 01:58:57AM -0400, John wrote: >> 35mm film cameras based on relevance today: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piHi1dvsGX0

Re: Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 01:58:57AM -0400, John wrote: > 35mm film cameras based on relevance today: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piHi1dvsGX0&t=1s Well, in 1982 I still had the MX I'd bought back in '76, and an ME (although the ME would be replaced the next year by a Super Program). A frien

Re: Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

> On 01 September 2021 at 06:58 John wrote: > > > 35mm film cameras based on relevance today: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piHi1dvsGX0&t=1s Based on relevance today, they should all be P&S models. The usual suspects at the top but 2 out of 10 is not bad. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Disc

Semi-OT: 10 Hottest 35mm Cameras You Could Buy in 1982

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Re: Semi-OT: Film processor

> On 25 August 2021 at 10:23 Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > > Am 25.08.21 um 01:49 schrieb John: > > > I'm thinking about pledging to the kickstarter campaign. > > Another copy of a Jobo processor. I wouldn't bet any money on ity > various teething troubles and the availability of spares in a

Re: Semi-OT: Film processor

Just look for a used Jobo. No need to reinvent the wheel. bill On Tue., Aug. 24, 2021, 5:49 p.m. John, wrote: > I know some here still shoot film. I would if I had a better way to get > processed. I just don't have the means right now, particularly for medium > (120) > or large (4x5) format. >

Re: Semi-OT: Film processor

Am 25.08.21 um 11:27 schrieb mike wilson: And it won't cost anywhere near that. Might well be, although prices for used Jobo processors have gone through the roof over the last years. Bought my ATL2+ for 200 Euros when all the professionals went digital and sold it for the same price in 2009.

Re: Semi-OT: Film processor

Am 25.08.21 um 01:49 schrieb John: I'm thinking about pledging to the kickstarter campaign. Another copy of a Jobo processor. I wouldn't bet any money on ity various teething troubles and the availability of spares in a few years time, so I'd rather go for the original. I do need to email th

Semi-OT: Film processor

I know some here still shoot film. I would if I had a better way to get processed. I just don't have the means right now, particularly for medium (120) or large (4x5) format. I saw this on PetaPixel yesterday: https://petapixel.com/2021/08/23/filmneverdie-unveils-the-cp800-a-2750-auto-rotary-d

Re: Semi-OT: Relocating a Frank Lloyd Wright House

Basically, "Frank Lloyd Wright’s Bachman Wilson House, built in 1956 in Millstone, New Jersey, opened to the public on November 11th in Bentonville, Arkansas. The house was disassembled on the original site and transported to the Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art, for preservation and public d

Re: Semi-OT: Relocating a Frank Lloyd Wright House

Won't let me look at that one because of my "ad-blocker". I don't have an ad-blocker. I do block malware sites with a Hosts file and evidently their ad server is on one of those sites, probably "doubleclick.net". On 7/6/2021 18:49:08, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I visited the one near us 20 year

Re: Semi-OT: Relocating a Frank Lloyd Wright House

Thanks John! Stan Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2021, at 4:03 PM, John wrote: > > Since this month's PUG theme is Architecture ... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcb1i0BX4D8 > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > -- >

Re: Semi-OT: Relocating a Frank Lloyd Wright House

I visited the one near us 20 years ago. It was a masterpiece, but has since been relocated to Arkansas: https://www.archpaper.com/2015/11/frank-lloyd-wrights-bachman-wilson-house-opening-public/ Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On T

Re: Semi-OT: Relocating a Frank Lloyd Wright House

Yeah - interesting -- I saw stuff about this on TV - I think it was on CBS sunday Morning but omewhere else as well, I think ann On 7/6/2021 4:03 PM, John wrote: Since this month's PUG theme is Architecture ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcb1i0BX4D8 -- ann sanfedele photography https:

Semi-OT: Relocating a Frank Lloyd Wright House

Since this month's PUG theme is Architecture ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcb1i0BX4D8 -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRI

Re: Semi-OT: Ektar 25

DUH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdonEDPaEuo On 5/22/2021 14:54:05, John wrote: But at 11:01 someone familiar gets a mention. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an

Semi-OT: Ektar 25

But at 11:01 someone familiar gets a mention. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

Someone asked why I still use Yahoo if I hate it so much? ... I don't really hate it, although it can be a PITA sometimes & their "help" is no help at all. BUT I got the Yahoo account while I was in the National Guard because the Army wanted us to have an account separate from AKO (Army Knowl

Semi-OT: Semiconductor Manufacturer in Japan has a fire

I got this from another list (local camera club): A semi-conductor suppler for Japanese photography gear makers (Nikon, Canon, Sony, etc.) has suffered from a three day fire. That means many components to make cameras, lenses, even hifi equipment will be in short supply this winter. Do not exp

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

Well, I don't see you complaining about them constantly, Rick. My partner uses Yahoo as well … He doesn't complain about it either. I also have Yahoo accounts. I find them a pain in the butt so I don't use them; I haven't deleted them because there's no real point to that. But I don't worry that

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

On 12/6/2020 9:13 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > Well, I have 15 years of emails on Yahoo. I have about 25 years of emails stored on my hard drive. I used Eudora Pro as my email client for most of 20 years, and switched to Thunderbird when changes in certificates rendered Eudora useless. -- D

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

Well, I have 15 years of emails on Yahoo. I often search them for various reasons. Even if I could migrate them, it would be a PITA. Rick On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 23:35 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I can't for the life of me understand why you continue to use a service > that you've been saying suck

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> ... >> Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\ > If I ever needed proof that you aren’t Jewish, I have it now. No proof required. I'm Siciliano-Napolitano heritage; Zen

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

I can't for the life of me understand why you continue to use a service that you've been saying sucks for an age and a day and constantly gets worse. There are plenty of excellent services that do email very reliably and without any problems. Just go to one of them and toss the Yahoo stuff. Sa

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\ If I ever needed proof that you aren’t Jewish, I have it now. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

I think the level of suck Yahoo has descended to must be the other way round. Yahoo didn't suck as much before they were acquired. On 12/4/2020 16:09:45, P. J. Alling wrote: They were bought by AT&T which was bought by SBC who then changed their name to AT&T because all of their customers hated

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:43, John wrote: > > Do you have a Yahoo email account using Thunderbird for pop.mail? Well, Yeehaw! does IMAP as well; it's been ages since I used Tbird (just said *Hell No* to Window$ several decades ago), so idunno if Tbird will do IMPA. -- Oh a bit of Nelson's blood wo

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

They were bought by AT&T which was bought by SBC who then changed their name to AT&T because all of their customers hated them, and now they're in grave financial condition... I like to think Yahoo has something to do with it. On 12/4/2020 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: Changed th

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

John wrote: >Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in >to Yahoo. Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- P

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

Do you have a Yahoo email account using Thunderbird for pop.mail? On 12/4/2020 08:34:30, Dale H. Cook wrote: On 12/3/2020 11:48 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Hhmmm.  I've just updated to 78.5.1 and have not experienced any of > those problems. Same here. -- Science - Questions we may n

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

On 12/3/2020 22:17:24, ann sanfedele wrote: I knew there was I reason I keep declining the update... but don't you tell it what fonts and background colors to use? ann On 12/3/2020 9:36 PM, John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo.

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

I'm not having it try to get me to log into Yahoo, it did change the default colors and font, and reinstalled the broken reply button, (I had to install an plugin to get rid of it, since they helpfully removed that option), but eh, it's a free tool so I'm not going to complain too much.  I'm su

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

On 12/3/2020 11:48 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Hhmmm. I've just updated to 78.5.1 and have not experienced any of > those problems. Same here. -- Dale H. Cook, Pentax K-70, smc Pentax-DA 18-270mm, smc Pentax-D FA Macro 100mm, Rokinon 650Z 650-1300mm https://plymouthcolony.net/photos/index

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

Hhmmm.  I've just updated to 78.5.1 and have not experienced any of those problems. -p On 12/3/2020 8:36 PM, John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDM

Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

I knew there was I reason I keep declining the update... but don't you tell it what fonts and background colors to use? ann On 12/3/2020 9:36 PM, John wrote: Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsa

Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in to Yahoo. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Semi OT : where is this lake and mountain scene? need help here

I did a lot of image searching with google before I posted here... including the reverse image search which led only to the photo I've shown here .  The Maroon Bells puzzle was easy..Posted on facebook but mostly people responded with shots that were pretty much off the mark - just the same um

Semi OT : where is this lake and mountain scene? need help here

Ann, I am not sure, but what comes to my mind is the one in Banff national park in Alberta. I didn't pull my archives to check. It might be much easier to compare with the multitude of photos using Google. Igor Sent from mobile phone On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:33 PM ann sanfedele wrote:

Re: Semi OT : where is this lake and mountain scene? need help here

I was in Alaska in 1992 as well..   but didn't get to that MIrror Lake... The vegetation isn't right for Denali park.. Photo on puzzle taken before 1981.. The trees are clearly spruce which puts the elevation of the lake at about 4,000 to 9,000 (it would be lower, of course in Alaska but those

Re: Semi OT : where is this lake and mountain scene? need help here

There are Mirror Lakes everywhere, even in NJ. This one looks and feels like the one in Denali NP. I have been there, but can't readily find any image from that trip back in 1992. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Sun, Sep 6, 2020

Semi OT : where is this lake and mountain scene? need help here

I've been buying, doing and then selling the jigsaw puzzles I've done. Mostly older Springboks . This is part of the cover of the box I just bought and am waiting for  (cribbed from sellers listing) . It is called MIRROR LAKE  and the puzzle is PZL2102 and produced in 1981 so we know the photo

Re: Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer Who Took the World’s First Pictures of Snowflakes | Trivia Genius

There’s a fellow in Michigan named Mark who has studied snowflakes - has images to prove it. ;+) -Original Message- >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" >Sent: Aug 19, 2020 2:07 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer

Re: Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer Who Took the World’s First Pictures of Snowflakes | Trivia Genius

2020 2:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer Who Took the World’s First Pictures of Snowflakes | Trivia Genius Where else but Vermont to study snowflakes? That is an interesting and informative article. Thanks for posting the link. Dan

Re: Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer Who Took the World’s First Pictures of Snowflakes | Trivia Genius

mages to prove it. ;+) > > > -Original Message- > >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" > >Sent: Aug 19, 2020 2:07 PM > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer Who Took the > World’s First Pictures of Sn

Re: Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer Who Took the World’s First Pictures of Snowflakes | Trivia Genius

Where else but Vermont to study snowflakes? That is an interesting and informative article. Thanks for posting the link. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 1:53 PM Paul Sorenson wrote: > > https://www.triviag

Semi OT “Snowflake” Bentley: The Vermont Farmer Who Took the World’s First Pictures of Snowflakes | Trivia Genius

https://www.triviagenius.com/wilson-bentley-vermont-farmer-who-took-the-worlds-first-pictures-of-snowflakes/XzrmSvaawAAGI7O-?utm_source=blog&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1140416561 https://tinyurl.com/y6bcr9hu -p -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML

Semi-OT: Earthquake in North Carolina

There was a 5.1 earthquake about 2 miles SE of Sparta, NC just after 8:00 this morning. Only "Semi" off topic because it's 40 miles NE of Grandfather Mountain. https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=30.88337,-88.26416&extent=40.94671,-70.26855 I think that might have been what w

Re: Semi-OT: New Years Resolutions

the recipe page & illustration that I'll post to Flickr later so that this really will be only SEMI-OT once I post the PESO If you get a copy of Paprika, which is probably one of the best apps ever written, certainly one of my most-used, you don't need to take photos of the recipe pa

Re: Semi-OT: New Years Resolutions

hat picture. > > I took a photo (with the K-1) of the recipe page & illustration that I'll > post to Flickr later so that this really will be only SEMI-OT once I post the > PESO If you get a copy of Paprika, which is probably one of the best apps ever written, certainly one

Semi-OT: New Years Resolutions

didn't turn out as pretty as the picture in the cookbook, but I bet it was a lot tastier than trying to eat that picture. I took a photo (with the K-1) of the recipe page & illustration that I'll post to Flickr later so that this really will be only SEMI-OT once I post the PESO. A

Semi-OT: The little doggy.

Only Semi because I plan on photographing him again in a couple of days ... I'm thinking of having him sitting on the case for The Beast, to illustrate the comparative sizes of the two great prizes that have come into my life this summer. I've decided he's the "Prince of Theives" who steals lit

Semi-OT: "Upgrading" Thunderbird

I finally got tired of it nagging me to update to v52 and "upgraded". Didn't have any trouble with the reply/reply to list problem because I was ready for it and customized my toolbar right away. But I didn't expect it to turn line-wrap back on, and they obfuscate how to fix that. Think I've go

Semi-OT: Trail cams

Haven't had a chance to investigate yet, but do any of the trail cams have floating ISO so that one only sets the aperture & shutter speed? Am thinking that not using a flash might have certain value. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net t

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

And speaking of a Google search, there doesn't seem to be a dedicated Point of Sale version of Windows Vista, but XP will be supported more or less fully as a Point of Sale system until April 2019. It is possible that a future update will render a non POS installation of WinXp unbootable, but

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

I don't remember exactly what needs to be changed in the registry, but a google search will probably turn up the proper setting, and you can cause WinXP to identify itself as XP PoS, (Point of Sale, now go wash out your brain with soap), and I think you'll still get "regular" updates, not just

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22882/windows-vista-end-of-support "As of April 11, 2017, Windows Vista customers are no longer receiving new security updates, non-security hotfixes, free or paid assisted support options, or online technical content updates from Microsoft. Microsoft has p

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

Ah - thanks Jostein. I've been looking, without success so far, for manual update downloads. I'll give those a try. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Tue, May 30, 2017, at 09:20 AM, Jostein wrote:

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

If the update client fails, you can still download the Vista/SP2 updates from here: http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=vista%20sp2 Jostein Den 30.05.2017 01.13, skrev Bruce Walker: Unless they changed something radically, you should still get updates. I keep a copy of WinXP

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

Unless they changed something radically, you should still get updates. I keep a copy of WinXP in VMware to run the odd Windoze thing and it still gets updates from time to time. The few times I've installed it from scratch, it has spent the next three or four days installing updates from ancient ti

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

On Tue, May 30, 2017, at 04:24 AM, mike wilson wrote: > You'll not be updating a Vista laptop any more. You missed the deadline > by > about a month. > Doesn't that mean no future updates? I'd assumed I could still apply past updates if I could just get Windows Update to cooperate. Cheers B

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

You'll not be updating a Vista laptop any more. You missed the deadline by about a month. > On 28 May 2017 at 22:44 Brian Walters wrote: > > > I might have to try that. > > My old Vista laptop hasn't been updated for about a year because the > Update just stayed on 0% downloaded for hours. I

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

ears old! > > I'd try that rather than using the old HDD, which could be close to > failing anyway. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters > Sent: Monday, 29 May

RE: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

ather than using the old HDD, which could be close to failing anyway. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Monday, 29 May 2017 7:45 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE I might ha

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

On Sun, 28 May 2017 15:39:12 -0400, John wrote: >Egghead finally coughed up a page full of refurbished laptops with >Windows 7 Professional 64bit installed. > >If I still end up having to replace the Toshiba, my NEW plan is to get >one of these. Linux can wait until I can no longer get Windows 7.

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

I might have to try that. My old Vista laptop hasn't been updated for about a year because the Update just stayed on 0% downloaded for hours. I'll try the overnight thing. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernligh

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

On 27/5/17, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >I may bite the bullet and >buy a MacBook. Have you considered one from the Apple Refurb Store? Worth searching out - they are guaranteed as the new ones and savings are generally good over brand new. I've bought Apple Refurb a few times (iPad Minis).

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

If I may hold up a flag for actually cost-effective Macs? I bought my 2012 MacBook Pro about 3 years ago, used. No warranty. I paid half the brand new price and I have been using it professionally ever since editing video for broadcast news, as well as all the other stuff that we need computers fo

Semi-OT: Maybe ... STATUS UPDATE

1. I finally got Windoze Update working on the Toshiba. Based on something I read on a Microsoft forum, I left it running overnight searching for updates. There were 18 updates available when I got out of bed this morning. Apparently the Update Client has to update itself before it will find upda

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

On 5/28/2017 11:49, Henk Terhell wrote: I would think it is cheaper and safer to buy a new Windows 10 PC than a linux PC with comparable performance. Then install linux on a partition if you like and keep your Photoshop on Windows10. The problem with that is the computer would then be infected

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I would think it is cheaper and safer to buy a new Windows 10 PC than a linux PC with comparable performance. Then install linux on a partition if you like and keep your Photoshop on Windows10. I have a couple of older desktops and a laptop which are solely running linux distros (Debian, Xubuntu

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I bought my current MBP in January 2009. I've replaced the battery 3 times, switched from a spinny HDD to an SSD, and upgraded the OS a few times. That's it. It's my only work computer. It's in my backpack when it's not in its docking station at work or on my desk at home. Zero failures in 9+ year

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Ah. Roger that. Good thing that DVD R/W drives for USB exists... Bruce is right about the plethora of options. Most of them will do "the job", but I guess price is strongly correlated to lifetime expectancy. Jostein Den 27. mai 2017 23.18.06 CEST, skrev John : >No. If I have to replace the T

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> On May 27, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > I have tried to run Linux as a desktop machine and it's a huge > productivity killer and "world of hurt". I spent more time tweaking > and twiddling things and trying to find out why stuff I took for > granted in a supported environment just

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

John wrote: I may find a Linux laptop that meets my needs. I may bite the bullet and buy a MacBook. Note that with WWDC in about a week, it may be prudent to wait a couple of weeks to order a new mac, as they might announce new models, lower prices on old ones etc. However, with the curr

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I don't expect EVERYTHING to be pre-configured; just the Operating System. I'm *BUYING* a package - laptop with OS installed. It doesn't matter which OS is installed, Windows, OS X or Linux. I expect "up and running" support. If the vendor doesn't supply that, I'll buy from a vendor who does. I

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Memory upgradeability, for hungry apps, is probably the only real hardware issue for older appliances. My Aspire One netbook used to be "make a cup of tea, properly" slow from a cold start on XP. Now, it's about 40 seconds from pressing the button to opening Firefox. > On 27 May 2017 at 23:46 Jo

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If you want everything preconfigured and you don't want to do it yourself, I'm not sure Linux is the best choice for you. With that said, I think Dell sells computers with Linux preinstalled. I'd guess it's Red Hat Linux, but I haven't checked. I use and love Linux. I've also had good luck with W

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My primary concern was RAM requirements for WINE... :-) Jostein Den 27. mai 2017 23.09.48 CEST, skrev mike wilson : >If it ran W7, it should fly with UBUNTU. My laptop was sluggish with >XP and >works just fine under LINUX. > >> On 27 May 2017 at 15:26 Jostein wrote: >> >> >> Hi John, >> If

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

Paul Stenquist wrote: Cheaper is a valid point. But I can't recall the last time I had a problem with my Mac systems. They're pretty much bullet-proof these days. Most disturbing for me would be trying to control color management workflow for printing. The lack of color management was what

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If I have to replace the Toshiba, I'm going to *BUY* a laptop that already has Linux installed from a vendor that will at least give me "up & running" support. I'll let them worry about the "distro". I'm trying to put some thought into it before I start spending my money. I need a web browser (F

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Cheaper is a valid point. But I can't recall the last time I had a problem with my Mac systems. They're pretty much bullet-proof these days. Most disturbing for me would be trying to control color management workflow for printing. Paul via phone On May 27, 2017, at 5:22 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Re: Semi-OT: Maybe getting a new laptop?

Pull the drives, stick them on a dock to extract any data that you need. Reinstall them and put on your distro. Put the data back. Kapow! A laptop that will run better than it ever did with W7 for the sum of, Oh! nothing! The bonus is freeing yourself from the Adobe yoke. George Melly said t

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> On 27 May 2017 at 20:17 Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > Why? 1. It's infinite orders of magnitude cheaper. (Not everyone can offset their computer-related purchases against tax) 2. You get more serious problems with Windows and Apple stuff anyway. And you've paid (mightily) for that. 3. It exten

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No. If I have to replace the Toshiba I'm looking for new hardware with Linux already installed. If possible I want to be able to install & run my existing licensed copy of Photoshop CS5 on the new Linux machine. On 5/27/2017 10:26, Jostein wrote: Hi John, If I read you right, you exclude Apple

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