Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:58 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling John, it's modeled on the classic compact RF and VF cameras of the late 60's early 70's. The best of them were elegant simplicity. A lot of cameras have been designed to look like Leicas. This is

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:58 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling John, it's modeled on the classic compact RF and VF cameras of the late 60's early 70's. The best of them were elegant simplicity. A lot of cameras have been designed to look like Leicas. This is designed to evoke a

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-16 Thread P. J. Alling
John, it's modeled on the classic compact RF and VF cameras of the late 60's early 70's. The best of them were elegant simplicity. A lot of cameras have been designed to look like Leicas. This is designed to evoke a general look a Canon TL Hi-Matic Electro* I'm only glad they didn't take

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: John, Have you looked at the old FA28-105/4-5.6, the old power zoom one introduced with the PZ-1? I have one and used it quite a bit for a while. its a good lens. It seemed to work on the istD better than this k10D as

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling John, it's modeled on the classic compact RF and VF cameras of the late 60's early 70's. The best of them were elegant simplicity. A lot of cameras have been designed to look like Leicas. This is designed to evoke a general look a Canon TL Hi-Matic Electro* I'm only glad

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: David J Brooks On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: John, Have you looked at the old FA28-105/4-5.6, the old power zoom one introduced with the PZ-1? I have one and used it quite a bit for a while. its a good lens. It seemed to work on the istD

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-16 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 03:48:27PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: [Re: FA 28-105 zooms] I think I'd actually rather have one of the IF versions over the PZ version. How do opinions go comparing the 3.2-4.5 vs 4-5.6? Godfrey reckoned that the 3.2-4.5 was at least as good, optically, as the

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Sure thing. /Extending my hand for the handshake/ On 1/15/2011 2:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Boris Liberman On 1/13/2011 11:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: It seems like all I have to do is express a desire for something and there's automatically a big scrum piling on to tell me how wrong I

RE: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-15 Thread Bob W
Who says it has to be a zoom? Looks to me like it's modeled on a Leica range-finder and AFAIK the Leica are prized for their prime lenses. I don't know if anyone ever made a zoom for a Leica range finder. Google didn't show any. You can get two (I think) different 'Tri-Elmars' for Leica

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Rob Studdert wrote: On 14 January 2011 08:30, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: It seems like all I have to do is express a desire for something and there's automatically a big scrum piling on to tell me how wrong I am to have that desire. It's not mandatory, so it's prohibited,

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator 2011/1/14 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Which camouflage? Woodland, 6 color desert, 3 color desert, urban or one of the newer digital patterns ... and if so, US Army, USMC or USAF? That's not even considering the patterns adopted by our allies. not to mention your

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rob Studdert On 14 January 2011 08:30, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: It seems like all I have to do is express a desire for something and there's automatically a big scrum piling on to tell me how wrong I am to have that desire. It's not mandatory, so it's prohibited, and

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 1/13/2011 11:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: It seems like all I have to do is express a desire for something and there's automatically a big scrum piling on to tell me how wrong I am to have that desire. It's not mandatory, so it's prohibited, and I'm not even allowed to

RE: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread J.C. O'Connell
...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:54 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Steve Huff likes the K5 From: Rob Studdert On 14 January 2011 08:30, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: It seems like all I have to do is express

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Sullivan John, Have you looked at the old FA28-105/4-5.6, the old power zoom one introduced with the PZ-1? It's as good as the FA28-80/3.5-4.7 power zoom is bad. (I almost gave up shooting with the PZ-1 when I had that lens.) Regards, Bob S. I have, sort of ... I check KEH

RE: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread John Sessoms
Who says it has to be a zoom? Looks to me like it's modeled on a Leica range-finder and AFAIK the Leica are prized for their prime lenses. I don't know if anyone ever made a zoom for a Leica range finder. Google didn't show any. From: J.C. O'Connell using a zoom would ruin the performance

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Zooms don't work on rangefinders, because the mechanics of the camera can't cope with changing focal length. But a zoom works just fine on a live-view camera. (I assume the Fuji is live view/autofocus, although I admit that i haven't followed the story closely.) Paul On Jan 14, 2011, at 8:46

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steven Desjardins The 31 would be the near perfect APS-C equivalent. however, if I had the money I'd probably buy something like the DA 50-135. My current dream lens is a full-frame, constant aperture, f/2.8 24-105, preferably one that still has the aperture ring, so I guess it would

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins The 31 would be the near perfect APS-C equivalent. however, if I had the money I'd probably buy something like the DA 50-135. My current dream lens is a full-frame, constant aperture, f/2.8 24-105, preferably one

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/13/2011 4:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: If Pentax produces another lens with an aperture ring, I'll eat Cotty's hat. (However, I'll disinfect it first:-) Paul I think it is time someone on the list started production of specially edible and wearable PDML hats with all kinds of writing

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/13/2011 4:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: If Pentax produces another lens with an aperture ring, I'll eat Cotty's hat. (However, I'll disinfect it first:-) Paul I think it is time someone on the list started production of specially edible and wearable PDML hats with all kinds of writing

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/1/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: If Pentax produces another lens with an aperture ring, I'll eat Cotty's hat. (However, I'll disinfect it first:-) Now there's a thought! (the ap ring, not the hat). You know, I wouldn't be as surprised as you about that - using a DSLR with

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: I think it is time someone on the list started production of specially edible and wearable PDML hats with all kinds of writing such as that above. Dave Boorks (sic) can organise it - a nice big cookout of PDML hats ;) -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Paul Stenquist On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins The 31 would be the near perfect APS-C equivalent. however, if I had the money I'd probably buy something like the DA 50-135. My current dream lens is a full-frame, constant aperture, f/2.8

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/13/2011 7:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I was looking at the Pentax offerings on BH while I was writing. The DA Limited lenses don't have an aperture ring. The FA Limited lenses do. Dream your own dreams, but don't tell that me mine are wrong. I haven't been using aperture ring for several

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Steven Desjardins The 31 would be the near perfect APS-C equivalent. however, if I had the money I'd probably buy something like the DA 50-135. My current

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 1/13/2011 7:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I was looking at the Pentax offerings on BH while I was writing. The DA Limited lenses don't have an aperture ring. The FA Limited lenses do. Dream your own dreams, but don't tell that me mine are wrong. I haven't been using

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I agree John. OTOH, I was going to point out that there were no limited zooms. I've decided I want a DA limited 35-135, compact and light. I'm willing to settle for f4. I also want it to fit on my K7 and the new four thirds EVIL camera from Pentax. And I want the lens (and the EVIL camera) in

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/1/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty notes than an ap ring would be nice for shooting video, although I can't see any other use on a modern DSLR. It's a notable exception remarked on by filmmakers exploring the possibilities of shooting with DSLRs such as the Canon

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steven Desjardins I agree John. OTOH, I was going to point out that there were no limited zooms. I've decided I want a DA limited 35-135, compact and light. I'm willing to settle for f4. I also want it to fit on my K7 and the new four thirds EVIL camera from Pentax. And I want the

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Miserere
On 13 January 2011 17:45, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: IMO video on DSLRs is a curio with a dead end. You read it here first ;-) May your hat remain on your head on this occasion too. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread eckinator
2011/1/14 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Which camouflage? Woodland, 6 color desert, 3 color desert, urban or one of the newer digital patterns ... and if so, US Army, USMC or USAF? That's not even considering the patterns adopted by our allies. not to mention your enemies or the

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Absolutely constant f4. Pentax seems to have a knack for making these. For me, I'll give up the stop to get a lighter lens. I also like that 135 top end and 35 seems a fairly reasonable low end for me. 50 would be ok, but the lens would be coming off more often. I could also live with an

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: I think it is time someone on the list started production of specially edible and wearable PDML hats with all kinds of writing such as that above. Dave Boorks (sic) can

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Funny you chose Benin. My daughter is in the Peace Corps there and my wife is visiting here at this time. That's a stylin' camo. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:15 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/14 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Which camouflage? Woodland, 6 color desert, 3

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread eckinator
2011/1/14 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: Funny you chose Benin.  My daughter is in the Peace Corps there and my wife is visiting here at this time.  That's a stylin' camo. Wow, great daughter. So many more people should do such a thing and so many more parents should encourage their

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 January 2011 08:30, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: It seems like all I have to do is express a desire for something and there's automatically a big scrum piling on to tell me how wrong I am to have that desire. It's not mandatory, so it's prohibited, and I'm not even allowed

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/13/2011 11:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: It seems like all I have to do is express a desire for something and there's automatically a big scrum piling on to tell me how wrong I am to have that desire. It's not mandatory, so it's prohibited, and I'm not even allowed to want it? I apologize. I

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, Have you looked at the old FA28-105/4-5.6, the old power zoom one introduced with the PZ-1? It's as good as the FA28-80/3.5-4.7 power zoom is bad. (I almost gave up shooting with the PZ-1 when I had that lens.) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Boris Liberman

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-12 Thread P. J. Alling
I never had a problem with that. But then again I kind of liked 58mm normal lenses. On 1/11/2011 8:14 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Sadly, Boris, I had the same thought. I found the DA40 to be the wrong FL for nearly all situations. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Boris

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Or none are, as 43.2 is pretty much the standard normal as defined by most other image formats. On 1/11/2011 8:17 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: DA40 has the FOV that of a 60 mm lens on APS-C camera. It is awfully close to 58 mm which, I think, was kind of a standard lens some decades ago. 50, 55,

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
The 31 would be the near perfect APS-C equivalent. however, if I had the money I'd probably buy something like the DA 50-135. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Or none are, as 43.2 is pretty much the standard normal as defined by most other image

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: the K-5 with the FA43 looks to be a lovely package. Stop saying things like that... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Mark, only imagine, K-5 with FA 31 in lovely black... And the creamy tonal gradations along with biting sharpness and true to real life color fidelity of the images from this combo... /broad evil grin/. On 1/11/2011 2:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: the K-5 with the FA43

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sadly, Boris, I had the same thought. I found the DA40 to be the wrong FL for nearly all situations. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, only imagine, K-5 with FA 31 in lovely black... And the creamy tonal gradations along with biting sharpness and

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Boris Liberman
DA40 has the FOV that of a 60 mm lens on APS-C camera. It is awfully close to 58 mm which, I think, was kind of a standard lens some decades ago. 50, 55, 58 mm - all are quite normal. Boris On 1/11/2011 3:14 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Sadly, Boris, I had the same thought. I found the

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Steven Desjardins wrote: Sadly, Boris, I had the same thought. I found the DA40 to be the wrong FL for nearly all situations. 40-43mm is wonderful on full-frame :-) If there was a way of fitting my Pentax Limited glass on my Sony A850 body I'd be hyperventilating by now. -- PDML

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just didn't fit my style. Oddly, I like the 50. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: DA40 has the FOV that of a 60 mm lens on APS-C camera. It is awfully close to 58 mm which, I think, was kind of a standard lens some decades ago. 50, 55, 58 mm - all are

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Of course, this is affected by where we live. In a rural area, I tend to favor longer lenses. I can see where wider lenses make sense in an urban environment, but all I would be doing is taking the same shot of the same hill. The daily variations in my environment occur on a scale that I really

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Derby Chang wrote: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/01/10/the-pentax-k5-digital-camera-review/ Nice review.  His grammar and spelling are almost like running something Dave wrote through a

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: the K-5 with the FA43 looks to be a lovely package. Stop saying things like that... lol ... Ok, a K-5 with DA21 and FA43 would be an even lovelier package. ];-) Seriously, this pair of lenses

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: DA40 has the FOV that of a 60 mm lens on APS-C camera. It is awfully close to 58 mm which, I think, was kind of a standard lens some decades ago. 50, 55, 58 mm - all are quite normal. I grew up with an SRT-101 with a 58/1.4 so the focal

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:23 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote: Sadly, Boris, I had the same thought. I found the DA40 to be the wrong FL for nearly all situations. 40-43mm is wonderful on full-frame :-) If there was a way of fitting my Pentax Limited glass on my Sony A850

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Cotty
If there was a way of fitting my Pentax Limited glass on my Sony A850 body I'd be hyperventilating by now. On 11/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Mr. Cottrell to the white courtesy phone. LOCK DOWN. Please seal all the doors and remain calm. I will be coming amongst you with a

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Mr. Cottrell to the white courtesy phone. Actually, this could be a bit simpler: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-PK-Lens-Minolta-MA-Sony-Alpha-Mount- Adapter-/350320308792 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 11/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Mr. Cottrell to the white courtesy phone. Actually, this could be a bit simpler: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-PK-Lens-Minolta-MA-Sony-Alpha-Mount- Adapter-/350320308792 Those have a few disadvantages: They give a slight

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/1/11, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Those have a few disadvantages: They give a slight magnification (about 1.1x I'm told) You lose both autofocus and automatic diaphragm They insert a cheap, uncoated, plastic, single-element lens into the optical system. Basically, this device

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-11 3:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: DA40 has the FOV that of a 60 mm lens on APS-C camera. It is awfully close to 58 mm which, I think, was kind of a standard lens some decades ago. 50, 55, 58 mm - all are quite normal. I grew up with

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Derby Chang wrote: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/01/10/the-pentax-k5-digital-camera-review/ Nice review. His grammar and spelling are almost like

Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-10 Thread Derby Chang
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/01/10/the-pentax-k5-digital-camera-review/ Elsewhere on his site, he is giving away Seal's M9. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Derby Chang wrote: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/01/10/the-pentax-k5-digital-camera-review/ Nice review. His grammar and spelling are almost like running something Dave wrote through a spell checker, and not looking to see what words come up as the

Re: Steve Huff likes the K5

2011-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Interesting review. The photos he posted of the camera and lens are terrible, but the K-5 with the FA43 looks to be a lovely package. Godfrey On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/01/10/the-pentax-k5-digital-camera-review/