Re: PAW PESO - Kids Playing in the Sand

2005-04-27 Thread John Coyle
And, on the Isle of Wight (England) Alum Beach has multi-coloured sands on the same beach! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Kids Playing

Re: PESO: Willy Chillin'

2005-04-27 Thread Hans Imglueck
I'm really liking the 70-210/3.5 Vivitar Series 1. In fact, I ebayed an original lens cap and hood for it. I shot this at 210 mm the other night while I was watching tv. The light is from the Sigma 500 Super bounced off the ceiling. The pup is my Springer. His name is Willly, and he's ten

Re: Corrupt card recovery

2005-04-27 Thread John Coyle
David, it sounds like a problem with your *istD,or the particular card you're using. I have only formatted my 512 MB card twice, and that was after doing a firmware upgrade, and have never yet (touch wood) lost either files or parts of files. However, I've probably not downloaded as many

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Graywolf
I think a republic does not have to be a democracy. A democracy on the other hand pretty much has to be a republic if it is the government of much more than a town. The way we elect the president in the US is diffinately not a democratic process. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread John Coyle
- Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya. SNIP You're looking at this from the US viewpoint, Paul (and I can't blame you for that). From the

Betr.: Re: OpenRAW

2005-04-27 Thread Bart Van Hoyweghen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 26/04/2005 10:50:16 I don't really understand why companies (Nikon most recently) would want to make their formats proprietary. They give away their RAW converter programs with each camera anyway, so they can't be making money from that. Here in Belgium, you have to pay

Re: Corrupt card recovery

2005-04-27 Thread David Savage
G'day John, It may very well have been the card. It was a 256 Sandisk Ultra II. I don't use it much anymore and have had no problems at all since I got the same card in 1GB. I still re-format the card after downloading files. It's probably unnecessary, but I don't think it does any harm. Dave S

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Jostein
Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John, This is a photography list. Take your food-talk elsewhere, please. It's only going to start another flame-war... LOL. But you have to break eggs to make an omelette. :-) Jostein (this is becoming entertaining again!)

Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/4/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: I can think of a number of acquaintances that have quirks that drive me insane... The friend or relative, that when going out for a meal, has to know exactly how the food is prepared and what's in it. Oops, don't like that. Start the process

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Jostein
Thanks, Frank. As you say, the enemy of the cold war era was dismantled in the eighties. IIRC, Gorbatchev rose to power and started the glasnost exactly 20 years ago. That's why I would call it an anachronism. One science philosopher (his name escapes me at the moment) claim that scientific

PESO - Brisbane Hotel

2005-04-27 Thread John Coyle
Another aspect of Brisbane that caught my eye last week. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3313889 Pentax *ist-D,FA* 28-105 4/5.6,1/90 @ f 5.6. Comments welcome! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia

Re: Viewfinder's

2005-04-27 Thread MOY MACGILL
Thanks once more From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Viewfinder's Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:47:44 +0200 Moy, If you have a lot of lenses, or plan to expand your current number, you should also consider the system filters from

Re: Viewfinder's

2005-04-27 Thread MOY MACGILL
Thank you From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Viewfinder's Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:55:47 -0600 - Original Message - From: MOY MACGILL Subject: Re: Viewfinder's I am trying to find the best brand's

Re: Viewfinder's

2005-04-27 Thread MOY MACGILL
Thank you From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Viewfinder's Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:46:10 +1000 On 25 Apr 2005 at 16:44, MOY MACGILL wrote: I am trying to find the best brand's of filters to buy. I am finely able to

Re: Viewfinder's

2005-04-27 Thread MOY MACGILL
Thank You From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Viewfinder's Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:13:36 +1000 Quoting MOY MACGILL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am trying to find the best brand's of filters to buy. I am finely able to spend money,time so I

Re: Viewfinder's

2005-04-27 Thread MOY MACGILL
Thank You and Good Light From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: MOY MACGILL pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Viewfinder's Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:04:48 +0200 Pentax SMC. B-W Multi-Resistant-Coated. Hoya Super-HM coated. Perhaps Heliopan, no

RE: OpenRAW

2005-04-27 Thread Anthony Farr
-Original Message- From: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) I don't really understand why companies (Nikon most recently) would want to make their formats proprietary. They give away their RAW converter programs with each camera anyway, so they can't be making money from

Re: PESO - Sleeping Daisy

2005-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 26, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Hans Imglueck wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3308195 Generally I'm not much of a flower lover but this one I found quite nice. What do you think? I could just about eat it right out of the screen. It looks like it's made of coconut ice.

Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 27, 2005, at 4:58 AM, Graywolf wrote: The only one who has an incentive to sell above that figure is the poor salesman who only makes $75 a pop unless he sells above invoice then he gets 10-15% of anything over invoice. Got any idea how many cars you have to sell at $75 a pop to make a

Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 27, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Nick wrote: We still have milk delivered by the milkman. At the last place I lived we had a milkman but he sold his business and the new guy wasn't interested in home delivery. We just went to the corner shop instead. Where we are now we have one of the last

RE: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Bob W
Hi, In a democracy, the majority rules. The minority has no rights under the law. The United States of America is not a democracy. It is a republic. snip With the greatest of respect, Tom, it seems to me that you (or those who share your viewpoint) are making up definitions to

Re: MZ-5n / ZX-5n: replace matte screen

2005-04-27 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Cesar You hit on a point I have thought about, grid screens. I have heard about them often enough that I have thought that once I got one for one camera I would want one for a few of my other cameras. I must confess I eventually put one in the LX and then a 645 I have, I also liked the

Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 27, 2005, at 1:28 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: It's not the same here, our pseudo sales tax (GST) is 10% country wide and it's very difficult to get out of paying it (or rather to claim it back). Is that all? :) We started GST in. 1986 at 10%, it's been 12.5% for a while now and I'm

Re: Corrupt card recovery

2005-04-27 Thread Frantisek
Wednesday, April 27, 2005, 2:17:49 AM, Mark wrote: MC Good thing you were able to salvage most of the files. Keep us posted if MC you learn the ultimate cause of the problem. Well, it was batteries. That old Nikon is a power hog, and its battery meter is not so accurate (similar to IstD, from

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, William Robb wrote: The Queen provides a last resort to reign in an out of control situation in Parliament, or an out of control government. That's right, the Queen has almost no power except for the right to dismiss 'her' government and call for a general election.

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, John Francis wrote: frank theriault mused: But if England and Canada aren't democracies by your definition (since their constitutions prevent the majority from oppressing the minority), and they aren't republics (having a non-elected monarch),

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Tom Reese
Frank theriault wrote something that I replied to and I cited a webpage that discussed the difference between a democracy and a republic. I've since taken a close look at the page and I realized that that page had a political agenda. I did not cite that page to advance that political agenda. I

Soviet Cameras (Was OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.)

2005-04-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
My camera is a FED I believe. I'll post a pic of it one of these days. It's a Leica clone, so it takes the 39mm rangefinder lenses. I think it would actually be considered a IIIa clone, because it doesn't have the slow shutter speeds. Zorkis are considered not quite as nice as FEDs if memory

Re: PESO more reflections

2005-04-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
An interesting shot. Sharp, nicely contrasty and with good tonal range. It leaves me wondering what the point of view might be, which isn't a bad thing. It makes it intriguing. Paul On Apr 27, 2005, at 1:19 AM, glenn murphy wrote: Another one from Chain O' Lakes State Park Pentax H1 Super

Re: PESO: Willy Chillin'

2005-04-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Hans. Actually, I focused on his eyes, which are on the same plane as that hair sticking out from his ears. I had to shoot at 5.6 to get enough light from a ceiling bounce, so his nose may indeed be a bit soft. I'd have to look at a blowup of the big file to be sure. My old eyes aren't

Re: PESO - Brisbane Hotel

2005-04-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. The reflection makes it special. Love the deep, cool colors. Makes me remember how much I enjoyed Australia. Paul On Apr 27, 2005, at 3:42 AM, John Coyle wrote: Another aspect of Brisbane that caught my eye last week. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3313889 Pentax

Re: Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/04/27 Wed AM 07:32:07 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Film is dead... On 26/4/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: I can think of a number of acquaintances that have quirks that drive me insane... The friend or

Re: Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread mike wilson
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/04/27 Wed AM 08:07:20 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Film is dead... On Apr 27, 2005, at 4:58 AM, Graywolf wrote: The only one who has an incentive to sell above that figure is the poor salesman who only makes $75 a pop

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On 4/27/05, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist mused: I don't know on what you base that comment, Paul. I don't know what they considered themselves, but they were neither communists nor Marxists. I base that comment on the name that the Soviets gave to their

Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems - Update

2005-04-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
Sounds like you're ready for the Pentax Lens fungus correction procedure (backyard, large sledge hammer ) Won't cure your problem but will definitely make you feel better (for a while) Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 26, 2005 9:46 PM

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On 4/27/05, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, I have to take some issue with you on this paragraph. The USSR was certainly not fighting the Nazis single-handed. You may recall that Britain fought from September of 1939 until the German invasion of Russia in 1941 with no manpower

Re: PESO - Brisbane Hotel

2005-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On 4/27/05, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another aspect of Brisbane that caught my eye last week. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3313889 Pentax *ist-D,FA* 28-105 4/5.6,1/90 @ f 5.6. Comments welcome! There's an ambience that seems to have been captured here. Cool,

Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread Cotty
I can think of a number of acquaintances that have quirks that drive me insane... The friend or relative, that when going out for a meal, has to know exactly how the food is prepared and what's in it. Oops, don't like that. Start the process again on the next menu item and the next,

Re: PESO more reflections

2005-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On 4/27/05, glenn murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another one from Chain O' Lakes State Park Pentax H1 Super Takumar 35/3.5 Ilford Pan F Plus 50 Handheld F4 @ 1/125 http://home.comcast.net/%7Egutenberg14/reflections-2.jpg Comments/suggestions welcome It has a very cold look to it

Re: Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems - Update

2005-04-27 Thread mike wilson
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/04/27 Wed PM 12:36:26 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems - Update Sounds like you're ready for the Pentax Lens fungus correction procedure (backyard, large sledge hammer ) Won't cure your

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On 4/27/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have an agenda other than to point out the difference between a republic and a democracy.snip You coming to GFM this year, Tom? I seem to recall that you are. I think we'll have a fun discussion over a beer or two, eh? vbg cheers,

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
But I'm going to stop now. I'm happy to discuss this off-list from here on in. Best news about this thread I've seen in several days! VBG Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 26, 2005 10:25 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT:

Re: Re: Film is dead...

2005-04-27 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/04/27 Wed PM 12:53:03 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Film is dead... I can think of a number of acquaintances that have quirks that drive me insane... The friend or relative, that when going out for a meal, has

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think a republic does not have to be a democracy. A democracy on the other hand pretty much has to be a republic if it is the government of much more than a town. The way we elect the president in the US is diffinately not a democratic process. As Frank

Re: PESO Evening on the Thames - the link!

2005-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On 4/26/05, Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here I would disagree. Both are important to me, and sometimes helpful. Of course it's better to know what is wrong with the picture, but sometimes it can't be worded. It just lacks the spark. And then, a doesn't work for me I don't like it

Re: Corrupt card recovery

2005-04-27 Thread ernreed2
Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: G'day John, It may very well have been the card. It was a 256 Sandisk Ultra II. I don't use it much anymore and have had no problems at all since I got the same card in 1GB. Have you discussed this with Sandisk? The Ultra II has a lifetime warranty.

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread frank theriault
On 4/27/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'm going to stop now. I'm happy to discuss this off-list from here on in. Best news about this thread I've seen in several days! VBG Yes, well, despite my best intentions, I apparently lied, having posted some more this morning :-(

Re: Optical or Digital Prints?

2005-04-27 Thread Tom Reese
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sharpness is a perceptual quality related to edge contrast; resolution is a separate albeit quality in a print. I prefer the definition of sharpness here: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/sharpness.shtml I believe that explanation better describes what we mean

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Tom Reese
Frank Theriault asked: You coming to GFM this year, Tom? I seem to recall that you are. Indeed I am. I think we'll have a fun discussion over a beer or two, eh? vbg I think we'll have several of both. grbay (that acronym should keep you busy for a little while) Tom Reese

Re: Corrupt card recovery

2005-04-27 Thread David Savage
Oops, I think I've caused undue concern by wording my initial post poorly.g It was never a major problem. It only happened twice in the first week I had the camera and hasn't been a problem since. But after it happened the second time I started reformatting the card after downloading the files.

Re: Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems - Update

2005-04-27 Thread David Savage
G'day Mike, I might give that a go this weekend. Dave S On 4/27/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip 7) At this point I got desperate pulled the damn thing apart. Using a syringe some silicone tubing and a 50-50 solution of warm water isopropyl alcohol, I flushed all the

Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems - Update

2005-04-27 Thread David Savage
LOL After I flushed the nozzles I did some test prints and the first 2 came out great. I thought to myself You little ripper. Of course the third print the problem was back. I very nearly threw the thing of the desk at that point. :-) Dave S On 4/27/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Isn't a macro lens designed for flat field work? If so, wouldn't a regular lens used with an extender, a bellows, or helicoil focusing device, be a better choice for 3D objects, such as close-ups of flowers or small objects? Or maybe close-ups of not so small objects? Shel

PESO: Others 2005 - 17p - GDG

2005-04-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Still working on this week's PAW, but I had a yellow interlude... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/17p.htm enjoy Godfrey

Re: Test of DA 40 f2.8 Limited

2005-04-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
I've included a small version of the entire picutre. It's a bit off-center. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/05 5:15 PM From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Re:

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Apr 2005 at 7:16, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Isn't a macro lens designed for flat field work? If so, wouldn't a regular lens used with an extender, a bellows, or helicoil focusing device, be a better choice for 3D objects, such as close-ups of flowers or small objects? Or maybe

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Shel, I think (perhaps wrongly) that when you take a regular lens and put it on extender, bellows or any other such device, you essentially enlarge the middle portion of the image circle thereby achieving your magnification. The macro lens is designed to sustain such an abuse and still give you

Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Recently I met a person who uses EOS 20D and couple of L lenses - 17-40/4 and 70-200/4 both being L lenses. We looked at each other's photos and I was very impressed with the way the L lenses produce very plastic, very 3D images. He on the other hand pointed out that few of my works were

Re: Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread mike wilson
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/04/27 Wed PM 02:33:18 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A Macro Lens Question On 27 Apr 2005 at 7:16, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Isn't a macro lens designed for flat field work? If so, wouldn't a regular lens used with an

Re: Corrupt card recovery

2005-04-27 Thread Alan P. Hayes
This starts to sound familiar. I had a file corruption issue with my first few pictures on the istD which went away immediately on reformatting the card in the Pentax. It had previously been formatted in my Olympus C5050. I don't recall this happening when I switched from Nikon to Olympus, but

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread mike wilson
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/04/27 Wed PM 02:46:28 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Concerned snip Not sure what you mean by plasticity. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Apr 2005 at 0:33, Rob Studdert wrote: On 27 Apr 2005 at 7:16, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Isn't a macro lens designed for flat field work? If so, wouldn't a regular lens used with an extender, a bellows, or helicoil focusing device, be a better choice for 3D objects, such as close-ups

Re: PESO - Mouse Christmas Tree

2005-04-27 Thread Rick Womer
Bruce, I like the color, detail,and mood a lot. I'm a bit bothered by the way the bottom of the plant is truncated, though. Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 26, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 SD AF, Handheld ISO 200,

Re: Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Apr 2005 at 14:48, mike wilson wrote: In addition, I suspect the curve of the plane of focus in the non-FF lens will be the wrong way. In other words, if focussed correctly in the centre, the curve of plane of focus will move back towards the lens towards the edges of the frame. In

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Mike, Ability to render very subtle changes of light and shade. This in turn gives the image very 3D look. You almost feel like you're present on site. This is what I would call plasticity. The lens that is not like this has very few distinguishable transitions from light to darkness and back.

RE: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hello Boris ... I suppose it's a matter of taste and preference. If you want plastic looking photos, then by all means get lenses that give you that result. Certain post processing techniques may also help make your photos look more plastic. Personally, I think those plast-ICKY images lack a

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Perfect - a picture is worth a thousand words ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert To provide an example I just produced a pair of shots at f5.6, one with my A50/1.2 + tube and the next with my A50/2.8 macro lens, nothing changed but the lenses:

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Apr 2005 at 17:46, Boris Liberman wrote: 1. Is there any of the questionable lenses above that are actually very good? 2. What things I should be aware of to improve plasticity of my images? 3. If I indeed have to replace all/some of those questionable lenses, what would you

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Shel, at al, Just to make sure I used the proper term - I want plasticity, not plastickyness... I can get plasticky very easily from any cheap lens :). I am not saying that I've outgrown Pentax gear, not by a long shot. I am saying, I may have outgrown some of the very Pentax gear that I own...

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Rob, Wow, maybe learn to post process to produce the type of image that you desire? I see a lot of over sharpened over saturated Canon and Nikon images, I'm sure that you could replicate this using your Pentax gear. I'm only half joking here. Few points. First of, my goal is to be able to

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Oh, that's what you meant by plastic still, I wonder if part of the problem is how you do your processing. Of course, the cheap, consumer lenses you're using may also contribute to the problem. Why not see if you can grab some high-end pentax lenses and compare the results to the Canon and

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread pnstenquist
I think you may gain something in terms of the way light and shade are rendered with better glass. But it would be more in regard to finer rendering of detail within those areas rather than opening up shadows or preserving highlights. Some of the lenses you mention are not highly regarded. But

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Alan P. Hayes
I've been following the political discussion and I need to say that I think this list is not properly named. Instead the Pentax Discussion Mailing List it should really be called the Pentax Digression Mailing List. It wouldn't even change the initials, but it would so much more accurately

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
Rod, Sorry if this has been asked, but was the 1.2 lens also set to 2.8? Thanks, Jack --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Apr 2005 at 0:33, Rob Studdert wrote: On 27 Apr 2005 at 7:16, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Isn't a macro lens designed for flat field work? If so, wouldn't

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi! Recently I met a person who uses EOS 20D and couple of L lenses - 17-40/4 and 70-200/4 both being L lenses. We looked at each other's photos and I was very impressed with the way the L lenses produce very plastic, very 3D images. He on

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread pnstenquist
Before the age of petroleum based synthetic products, the word plastic meant capable of being shaped or formed. Plasticity refers to something that displays shape and modeling, or as Boris so aptly described it, a 3D look. Paul Oh, that's what you meant by plastic still, I wonder if part

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Apr 2005 at 8:21, Jack Davis wrote: Rod, Sorry if this has been asked, but was the 1.2 lens also set to 2.8? No, both were set (mechanically using their aperture rings) at f5.6. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread pnstenquist
I should have added that you can achieve very fine results with all your lenses, even those that are not so highly rated. As Rob pointed out, the difference between great lenses and consumer grade lenses is negligible in most cases. I've been very happy with the Vivitar zoom that I bought for

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It behooves Boris to define his workflow to some degree. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I think what you're really talking about is the way detail is rendered in shadows and highlights. These attributes are much more dependent on workflow than equipment. If you're

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Fred
To provide an example I just produced a pair of shots at f5.6, one with my A50/1.2 + tube and the next with my A50/2.8 macro lens, nothing changed but the lenses: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP2269.jpg 50/1.2 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP2270.jpg 50/2.8

Re: A Macro Lens Question

2005-04-27 Thread Fred
In addition, I suspect the curve of the plane of focus in the non-FF lens will be the wrong way. In other words, if focussed correctly in the centre, the curve of plane of focus will move back towards the lens towards the edges of the frame. In most macro pictures, one would want the plane

Pentax F and FA's vs Manuals

2005-04-27 Thread John-Claude Zadro
Hi All. I currently own an assortment of manual members of the Takumar family and i'm going to pick up a Auto Pentax body (Z-50P) with F and FA lenses (SMC PENTAX-F 35-80mm and SMC PENTAX-FA 70-200 Power Zoom) to play with until I pick up an *istDS My KAF knowledge is patchy at best especially

Cleaning Barrery Contacts

2005-04-27 Thread Powell Hargrave
Put two sets of charged batteries into my DS last night and they came up low or dead. After scrubbing the ends of the batteries all is well but I suspect the camera contacts could also use some cleaning. Any thoughts on how to best clean the contacts at the bottom (top really) of the battery

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
Third of, I am definitely going to ask that guy how exactly he is processing his images... Boris, you also might want to ask him if he's doing any in camera processing as far as saturation, sharpening etc. Also are you trying to compare your digital images to similar film images? I prefer

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
Instead the Pentax Discussion Mailing List it should really be called the Pentax Digression Mailing List. Or lately, - Political Discussion Mailing List. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 27, 2005 11:14 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
IMHO, I'd rather see images from a photographer who knows his medium and uses mediocre equipment than from someone who pushes the shutter release on the best equipment. I strongly believe it's the person and not the equipment. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL

Re: OT: Inkjet Printing Problems - Update

2005-04-27 Thread Powell Hargrave
Hi Dave I have not been paying attention as I see too many ink jet problems on the Epson printer group I monitor. Intermittent problems like this in Epsons at least (not sure what yours is) are frequently caused by air leaks where the ink cartridge plugs into the printer. HTH Powell At 06:42

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Boris, I have a Canon 10D kit with Canon 20/2.8, 28/1.8, 50/1.4, 100/2, 70-200/4L and 300/4L IS lenses. I used them for a year and a quarter before buying a Pentax *ist DS kit. I also used the 50/1.4 and 100/2 extensively with a Canon EOS IX (APS film) body for a year before that. They are

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Graywolf
Very funny thing is there have been a lot of great photos made with all those lenses. An interesting thing about this is I never heard Canon lenses praised for their pictorial qualities. While Pentax lenses generally have been. Yes the L lenses are high tech, super sharp, but to me they always

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Joseph Tainter
Boris, you have gotten good advice about lenses and technique. If you are concerned, shoot for a while with only your best lenses and see if the images improve. But the comparison you have done with another photographer's work is not meaningful. Is he a better photographer than you? It sounds

Article on RAW data

2005-04-27 Thread Thibouille
From dpreview. Very interesting IMO http://www.dpreview.com/news/0504/05042701davecoffininterview.asp -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: I strongly believe it's the person and not the equipment. Absofreakinglutely. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Graywolf
Hum...? No one ever pays attention. Plasticity: A subtle quality of roundness, depth, and smoothness of a photographic image highly prised by artistic photographers. It is produced by subtle choice of uncorrected aberations by the lens designer. Pentax traditionally disigns lenses with this

Boris' workflow (was Concerned)

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! It behooves Boris to define his workflow to some degree. Shel, I've no idea what behooves is, but I suspect I know what you're asking of me anyway. So here goes. I'll try to be as detailed as I can so prepare for rather long message. 1. I shoot RAW only. Color balance is almost always set

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Tom C
Ken Waller wrote: Boris, you also might want to ask him if he's doing any in camera processing as far as saturation, sharpening etc. Also are you trying to compare your digital images to similar film images? I prefer Velvia when I shoot film and consequently when processing digital images I

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! First of all - give an accomplished snapper a pinhole camera, and give a monkey an L lens. Which will deliver a better pic? The point is, there's slightly more to it than comparing results from two completely different workflows. Just because someone else's pics look different to your own

RE: Cleaning Barrery Contacts

2005-04-27 Thread Tom C
Pencil eraser. Tom C. From: Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Cleaning Barrery Contacts Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:16:03 -0700 Put two sets of charged batteries into my DS last night and they came up low or dead. After

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Hum...? No one ever pays attention. I always do. Plasticity: A subtle quality of roundness, depth, and smoothness of a photographic image highly prised by artistic photographers. It is produced by subtle choice of uncorrected aberations by the lens designer. Pentax traditionally disigns

Re: Concerned

2005-04-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Kenneth Waller wrote: Third of, I am definitely going to ask that guy how exactly he is processing his images... Boris, you also might want to ask him if he's doing any in camera processing as far as saturation, sharpening etc. Also are you trying to compare your digital images to similar film

Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.

2005-04-27 Thread Graywolf
I believe it is stated this way, Jostein: The new way does not become the way until the last person who knew the old way dies. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jostein wrote: Thanks, Frank. As you say, the enemy of the cold war

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