RE: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
Sorry. So you want a 35/2 SMCP like SMCT so 160-200 in mint condition and 125-170 in excellent condition. Shen -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0 The lens in question is neither an M nor an A it's a SMCP, what is commonly called a K lens. Totally different optic. Shel Shen wrote: With accord 'McBroom's', it will be 130-170$ in excellent condition for SMCP-M and 170-200$ in Mint condition for SMCP-A
Re: S/N 5191683
On 16/10/04, jtainter, discombobulated, unleashed: Just picked up my DA 14 f2.8 at the post office. Not the first on the list with it, but the first North American? Anyway, I definitely set the record as the PDMLer who waited longest for it after placing an order (on 3 June). Nicely built, heavy, lots of resistance in manual focus. Thanks, Nguyen. Thanks, Manolo. Setting the *ist D to MTF program line yields f5.6 in sunlight. This is where Pentax thinks the lens is best. Makes sense: two stops below wide open. Unfortunately, DOF marks are not provided for apertures wider than f8. You kids behave. Papa's gonna play with his new toy. Way to go Joe! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: ?????
It´s not sharp. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: Paw: ? Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html for Taken *ist D w/200mm/f4.0 ED Macro. Comments solicited appreciated. Thanks, Kenneth Waller
Re: EYE ONE, Gretag
NOO!!! mishka On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:46:25 +0200, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DOES ANYONE HAVE EXPERINCED TO SHARE WITH THE (SCREEN) CALIBRATION TOOL CALLED EYE ONE, FROM GRETAG ? JENS Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
J. C. O'Connell wrote: You may be able to find a 58mm in M42. I have never understood why lens makers always left a big gap between 55mm and 85mm. 68mm would have filled that gap nicely and they could have easily made a F2.0 at that focal length too. Yeah, but why? keith whaley JCO -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount Does anyone know if there are any lenses that will work on the K-mount in the 60mm - 65mm range, and what they may be? Would even consider a screw mount that can be adapted. Thanks! Shel
RE: EYE ONE, Gretag
Now Mishka, are you SURE? ;-) -Original Message- From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EYE ONE, Gretag NOO!!! mishka On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:46:25 +0200, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DOES ANYONE HAVE EXPERINCED TO SHARE WITH THE (SCREEN) CALIBRATION TOOL CALLED EYE ONE, FROM GRETAG ? JENS Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Value of SMCP 35/2.0
Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be? Shel
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
Hi, Saturday, October 16, 2004, 6:16:09 AM, Stan wrote: Lets see, I've traveled to the following places with PDML meets on the side: England (twice, 5 contacts total) Italy (one contact) Toronto (five? contacts) Sweden (one contact) Aaland (one contact) Washington DC (twice, 3-4 contacts) Australia (3 cities, 8 contacts) GFM (all the likely suspects were there) and I've hosted one visitor here. So, I've got Tanja beat on milage though not on looks, and I can probably challenge Jostien for the honor of most traveled...but César has got to be in the running also. For those who haven't joined the PDML travel circuit, you should try it. Travelling circus, surely? But let's not forget Rob Studdert's globe-spanning haj 2 or 3 years ago. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Pentax 2x converter A
Hi, There are the S and the L. Which one u mean? The S version. I used to have one, which I used with an A400/5.6 and an A* 300/4 quite often. They were well matched and to me there was no obvious degradation in image quality. On such slow lenses you do end up with a very dark viewfinder, so it can be hard to focus, but I managed ok. They are very well made. I also had a T6-2X which was optically just as good, and also well made, but didn't have quite such a rock-solid feel to it. Finally, I've also had a Takumar 2X, which felt very flimsy. -- Cheers, Bob
PhotoShop CS-First Impressions
Got the upgrade to CS installed and the RAW Plugin updated last night. Other than the new RAW handling and the new tools I've also found that CS runs MUCH faster than 7.01on my Win-XP Pro PC. In spite of having only 1GB of RAM and a rather slow scratch disk I am very impressed. I took a pretty detailed file up to 12000x8000 and performance was still at least (barely) acceptable. Version 7.01 bogged down to stop at this size. The RAW converter seems somewhat more capable and intuitive. Some of the new tools like highlight/shadow are quite amazing. Thanks to those who suggested this, I feel it was $160 very well spent. Don
RE: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
With accord 'McBroom's', it will be 130-170$ in excellent condition for SMCP-M and 170-200$ in Mint condition for SMCP-A -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Value of SMCP 35/2.0 Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be? Shel
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
On 15/10/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: In terms of mileage, wouldn't Tanja be the one to beat? In terms of number of trips, it's probably a contest between Jostein and César. But aren't you in there somewhere? Mileage, yeah. Cesar! Of course, the roving PDML Ambassador! How could I forget, and how will he forgive me ;-) Of course, Jostein being of Viking blood is out to conquer and enslave where allowed so lock up your daughters as he's coming to a roundhouse near you. Me? I am but a tiny pixel on the digital sensor of life.. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
On 16/10/04, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Lets see, I've traveled to the following places with PDML meets on the side: England (twice, 5 contacts total) Italy (one contact) Toronto (five? contacts) Sweden (one contact) Aaland (one contact) Washington DC (twice, 3-4 contacts) Australia (3 cities, 8 contacts) GFM (all the likely suspects were there) and I've hosted one visitor here. So, I've got Tanja beat on milage though not on looks, and I can probably challenge Jostien for the honor of most traveled...but César has got to be in the running also. For those who haven't joined the PDML travel circuit, you should try it. Surely time for a PDML Travel Guide? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Australian Photography Workshops
G'day Kev Tan. If you find out who and where, Please give me a Cooee. I'd be interested in doing it too. Thanks. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton -Original Message- From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2004 8:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Australian Photography Workshops Kevin, there's a dude in Byron who does heaps of them, can't think of his name right now and I'm on the road, but I'll look it up and let you know... Oh, wait, I *think* he calls himself Photographer's Creative or something similar... -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2004 7:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Australian Photography Workshops Always seeking to improve technique, is there anywhere in .au that I might find a Studio Lighting workshop? Preferrably in NSW/QLD and something above the 'Introduction to Lighting/Flash' level. Kind regards Kevin - Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Long zoom recommendations
Hello all, I would like to add some longer lens to my small collection. The longest lens I have is my favorite M 135/3.5 - sharp and small. But I need some more. I could buy mint Sigma 135-400 quite cheap (350$), but I can't test it before I get it. I am bit afraid of its weight - is anybody here using it? Any experiences? Good, bad? Would I go better with some Pentax zoom in that price range? I plan to use it only for outdoor photography on MZ-6 and *ist D. Thanks for any hints.. and sorry for my english. Peter B.
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got Tanja beat on milage though not on looks Have you considered surgery? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999
I get it. I didn't understand what you meant by plugsin. Bery interesting. Where can I read more about these plugsins? Or were they created specifically for your system? Paul On Oct 15, 2004, at 9:44 PM, Herb Chong wrote: i never treat any of my images the same either. neither do my plugins. they can be set to achieve the results i want so long as the inputs are somewhat within reason. that is why i spent the money on specific plugins that can be tailored as to the results i get and not to the amount of any effect i want to apply. Herb... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999 I rarely treat two images exactly the same, so plug-ins wold be of little use for me. In truth, the RAW converters adjustments are far more fine and subtle than those of PS. I frequently change saturation by minute amounts in either direction, ditto white balance and color balance. The RAW converter allows extremely fine tuning of those kinds of variables.
Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
I would guess about $175 to $200. Paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be? Shel
*ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? I took a series of flash shots with the built in flash. 35/3.5 M lens from about 3 feet. All at 1/125 second at full stop increments from 4 to 22. Camera set at M, of course. They don't show anywhere near a full stop difference from one frame (oops!, capture) to the next but more of a gradual 1.5 - 2 stop difference overall from 4 to 22. As usual, I'm baffled. ;-) I'm used to the 5n and Super A which do perfect TTL flash with nearly any lens type or setting. Any idea how this does/should work on the D? Nothing I can look up since it's an unsupported feature. TIA Don
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
Don, i may be wrong here as i dont have the camera yet,but,i remember others saying earlier in the year,the camera performs flash best at ISO 400. Maybe try that. At least your digital worksvbg Dave Brooks Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? I took a series of flash shots with the built in flash. 35/3.5 M lens from about 3 feet. All at 1/125 second at full stop increments from 4 to 22. Camera set at M, of course. They don't show anywhere near a full stop difference from one frame (oops!, capture) to the next but more of a gradual 1.5 - 2 stop difference overall from 4 to 22. As usual, I'm baffled. ;-) I'm used to the 5n and Super A which do perfect TTL flash with nearly any lens type or setting. Any idea how this does/should work on the D? Nothing I can look up since it's an unsupported feature. TIA Don
Re: Australian Photography Workshops
This one time, at band camp, Trevor Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Kev Tan. If you find out who and where, Please give me a Cooee. I'd be interested in doing it too. I found photographers creative here http://www.photocreative.com.au/ I think what they are offering is a little basic to my needs Kevin - Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: PhotoShop CS-First Impressions
Good move. You won't regret it. Switching to PS CS changed my whole perspective on digital photography. Paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 5:13 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: Got the upgrade to CS installed and the RAW Plugin updated last night. Other than the new RAW handling and the new tools I've also found that CS runs MUCH faster than 7.01on my Win-XP Pro PC. In spite of having only 1GB of RAM and a rather slow scratch disk I am very impressed. I took a pretty detailed file up to 12000x8000 and performance was still at least (barely) acceptable. Version 7.01 bogged down to stop at this size. The RAW converter seems somewhat more capable and intuitive. Some of the new tools like highlight/shadow are quite amazing. Thanks to those who suggested this, I feel it was $160 very well spent. Don
RE: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
I just tried this test again at 15 feet. Same gradual variation except this time all shots were 3-4 stops underexposed. ??? Don -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:30 AM To: PDML Subject: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? I took a series of flash shots with the built in flash. 35/3.5 M lens from about 3 feet. All at 1/125 second at full stop increments from 4 to 22. Camera set at M, of course. They don't show anywhere near a full stop difference from one frame (oops!, capture) to the next but more of a gradual 1.5 - 2 stop difference overall from 4 to 22. As usual, I'm baffled. ;-) I'm used to the 5n and Super A which do perfect TTL flash with nearly any lens type or setting. Any idea how this does/should work on the D? Nothing I can look up since it's an unsupported feature. TIA Don
Re: For Sale: SMCP 50mm F1.4
Shel At 22:54 2004.10.15 -0400, you wrote: FYI, whoever was looking for a SMCP (K series) 50mm f1.4, I have just posted one: http://jcoconnell.com/JCO_AUCT.HTM Later, JCO You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the relationship the greater the impact. Howard Hendricks
Re: PAW: Street Performance: Sex With Filing Cabinet
Hi Frank. Knowing this is a series,I like it.Performing artist with her viewing public, front row. I love the expressions an how all 3 men are looking at this.Unless i have missed some others i still like number 2 from a few months ago better.This one does not seem to portray the sexy part as well. I had to look at it a bit longer to see. All in all nicely done. Dave( not really expressing himself well, again,BYKWIM)Brooks My friend Marlee took her performance piece, Sex With Filing Cabinet out on the street back in August. Actually, her performance was al fresco, and then she was followed by another performer at a nearby indoor venue. It was - er - different. Some passersby didn't know quite what to make of it: Is this some crazy lady, does she need some help with whatever she might be doing, or is it some weird art thang? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2782868 Comments are always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW PESO - Portrait of a Chicago Hot Dog Vendor
Shel, Absolutely right, this is a vendor near the parking for the Natural History Museum, home of Sue the dinasoar. (It's now in the shadow the newly renovated Soldier Field, home of the Chicago Bears.) I learned a lot that day. You photographed all the people I normally just walk by. You engaged them, they were happy to talk to you, and give you a picture. It was a real eye opener. Thanks, Bob S On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:21:06 -0700, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Chicago a while back and grabbed this little snap of Kim, an obviously happy hot dog vendor. Hey, Bob do you remember this one? Wasn't it outside the museum where we went to see Sue the Dinosaur http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/kim.html Shel
RE: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
Tried it. It works. ;-) Thanks! Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 2:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? Don, i may be wrong here as i dont have the camera yet,but,i remember others saying earlier in the year,the camera performs flash best at ISO 400. Maybe try that. At least your digital worksvbg Dave Brooks Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? I took a series of flash shots with the built in flash. 35/3.5 M lens from about 3 feet. All at 1/125 second at full stop increments from 4 to 22. Camera set at M, of course. They don't show anywhere near a full stop difference from one frame (oops!, capture) to the next but more of a gradual 1.5 - 2 stop difference overall from 4 to 22. As usual, I'm baffled. ;-) I'm used to the 5n and Super A which do perfect TTL flash with nearly any lens type or setting. Any idea how this does/should work on the D? Nothing I can look up since it's an unsupported feature. TIA Don
Re: PhotoShop CS-First Impressions
This one time, at band camp, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good move. You won't regret it. Switching to PS CS changed my whole perspective on digital photography. Mine also, I installed PS CS on the iMac, now I have moved to The GIMP PS is surplus to my needs Kind regards Kevin - Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision
Rick, I don't own an *istd. I've no interest in getting sucked into digital manipulation of my stuff. (Which I fight with my 4 meg Sony PS...) I also worry about resolution with digital. (I'm just fighting enablement.) I shoot mostly slides, no post process for me. I do like the slide exposures from the PZ-1 better than the PZ-1p. Used PZ-1's are cheap today. Buy one as a stop-gap measure until you figure it all out. On a side note, I've struggled with reading the pdml in digest and archives. I've got a gmail (free from google) account now thanks to another pdml'er. Works really well compared to trying to read this on AOL. I'm on vacation and haven't been able to check mail every day. The messages just pile up at gmail, no problem, and they are sorted into threads by topic. I'm plowing thru the backlog now and it's easy! Contact me off line if you want an invitation to gmail. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT), Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked on this list via the archives for a long time, but the archives have become too unreliable. I'm a 20-year Pentax user (still have the Super Program, though my son uses it more than I do now), and I shoot ~50 rolls of slides a year. Anyway...this past weekend my beloved PZ-1p, 24-90 FA, and 80-320 FA drowned when my camera bag fell into a lake. In my grief, I'm trying to decide: - Replace it with an istD, or - Replace it with the same stuff, figuring that a better, possibly image-stabilized Pentax DSLR will come along soon enough. To paraphrase Herbert Keppler, I am 100% interested in taking pictures and 0% interested in manipulating them on a computer--my time is extremely limited. I'd appreciate peoples' comments. Rick ___ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com
EYE ONE, Gretag
DOES ANYONE HAVE EXPERINCED TO SHARE WITH THE (SCREEN) CALIBRATION TOOL CALLED EYE ONE, FROM GRETAG ? JENS Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
RE: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision
Taking your intersts into account, I too can recommend buying af PZ-1 or PZ1-p - both brilliant cameras. As you know the PZ1-p is a lot faster, than the PZ1, which, on the other hand has a built-in timer, that the PZ1 doesn't have. An alternative could be the MZ-5n. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. oktober 2004 14:47 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision Rick, I don't own an *istd. I've no interest in getting sucked into digital manipulation of my stuff. (Which I fight with my 4 meg Sony PS...) I also worry about resolution with digital. (I'm just fighting enablement.) I shoot mostly slides, no post process for me. I do like the slide exposures from the PZ-1 better than the PZ-1p. Used PZ-1's are cheap today. Buy one as a stop-gap measure until you figure it all out. On a side note, I've struggled with reading the pdml in digest and archives. I've got a gmail (free from google) account now thanks to another pdml'er. Works really well compared to trying to read this on AOL. I'm on vacation and haven't been able to check mail every day. The messages just pile up at gmail, no problem, and they are sorted into threads by topic. I'm plowing thru the backlog now and it's easy! Contact me off line if you want an invitation to gmail. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT), Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked on this list via the archives for a long time, but the archives have become too unreliable. I'm a 20-year Pentax user (still have the Super Program, though my son uses it more than I do now), and I shoot ~50 rolls of slides a year. Anyway...this past weekend my beloved PZ-1p, 24-90 FA, and 80-320 FA drowned when my camera bag fell into a lake. In my grief, I'm trying to decide: - Replace it with an istD, or - Replace it with the same stuff, figuring that a better, possibly image-stabilized Pentax DSLR will come along soon enough. To paraphrase Herbert Keppler, I am 100% interested in taking pictures and 0% interested in manipulating them on a computer--my time is extremely limited. I'd appreciate peoples' comments. Rick ___ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com
Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999
here the are plugins i use all the time. Pictographics iCorrect EditLabPro 4.5 www.picto.com FixerLabs FocusFixer 1.3 www.fixerlabs.com Extensis Intellihance Pro 4 www.extensis.com when necessary, i use Reindeer Graphics Optipix 3.0 www.reindeergraphcis.com Kodak Digital ROC 1.2 www.asf.com Visual Infinity Grain Surgery 2.0 www.visinf.com my workflow consists of 1) copying the files to the hard drive. 2) opening the folder in Thumbs+ and scanning the thumbnails. 3) i'll preview the compositions and look for dust, etc, in the images i like using the Thumbs+ viewer. its color management isn't as good as Photoshop, so i don't make color judgements. 4) if there are any outstanding shots, i load them into Photoshop CS and work on them right away and save the results as Photoshop files at double resolution (6144x4101) 5) once the outstanding shots are done, i'll go back and look for the good shots and work on them in Photoshop CS. this will include near duplicate compositions and any exposure bracketing. some may be saved at double resolution and some may be saved at sensor resolution (3008x2008). 6) all off the files that have been converted to Photoshop's native format and i place them into a Thumbs+ gallery. 7) i run a slide show of the gallery contents and evaluate the images against each other. 8) any that don't stand up as well or are duplicates get reduced if they are at double resolution. the ones i don't like as much this way are removed from the gallery. i'll do 2 or 3 passes like this in a couple of minutes. what's left gets copied into my for printing folder. 9) from the copies in my for printing folder, i make 800x600 (roughly) thumbnails for the web and choose my final crop for 11x14, my normal print size. within Photoshop CS, this is what i normally do: 1) at conversion, set color balance and exposure compensation if needed. i always convert at 6144x4101. other settings in the converter that i have tweaked are saved as the default and used on all images. 2) reduce the resolution to 3008x2008 if there is too much noise or was taken assuming i would crop to this size. i'll crop to a standard size more often with birding shots where i planned this ahead of time. if the image is slightly tilted or has some things that are distracting at the edges, i'll do straightening and cropping. 3) run Photoshop's Auto Contrast with my particular preferences set from the Levels tool for percent white points and black points 4) if necessary, run Shadow/Highlight 5) run EditLab Pro to correct color balance and saturation. it almost always does the right thing with minor tweaks in saturation and nothing else. if it gets it wrong, i usually cancel the filter and try with Photoshop's Photo Filter and Saturation adjustments 6) run FocusFixer with my standard settings 7) convert to 8-bit/channel mode 8) run Intellihance Pro 9) save as Photoshop unless the image is a disaster technically but has amazing content, most of the time in Photoshop is spent in waiting for the FocusFixer filter to run. this is the only sharpening filter i own that does a decent job of deblur. unsharp mask is a completely different filter that doesn't deblur but does local contrast enhancement. it is similar in some ways, but different in others. if i didn't have to do the deblur step, it takes my about 2-3 minutes to produce a typical finished image that needs only to be cropped for printing. the deblur filter takes about 8 minutes on the double res image and about 2 minutes on the normal one. the pain comes when i have to use Photoshop's clone and healing brush tools to fix minor blemishes caused by dust, trash, other other such undesirables that appear. that will be done after EditLab Pro and before deblur. this can take a long time, but i have few images where it is necessary and worth it. panoramas also take a long time, but most of it is waiting for the Pentax batch converter to run to convert the RAW images to JPEG. i'll use Optipix when i am blending exposures to get more dynamic range, Digital ROC when i really need better colors and nothing else seems to work, and Grain Surgery when i need digital noise reduction. i seldom use Digital ROC because its color adjustments can be really weird. with auto white balance on RAW files, i almost never need it anymore. i'll more often use Grain Surgery to add grain to simulate film than to remove noise, but almost never do either anyway. demos are available for all of the above and you can try them yourself. add up the prices of these 6 plugins and you pay a pretty penny, but they let me automate do the right thing to a very high degree. Herb... - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999 I get it. I didn't understand what you meant by plugsin. Bery interesting. Where can I read more about these plugsins? Or were they created
RE: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision
I can't resist saying, that I shot enough shots in just 5 weeks (with my *ist D) to pay for it - app. 5000 frames. 5000 shots on film would equals the ammont of film/delveloping, which represents the same value as the *ist D body! Welcome tio the list, Rick! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. oktober 2004 01:03 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT), Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked on this list via the archives for a long time, but the archives have become too unreliable. I'm a 20-year Pentax user (still have the Super Program, though my son uses it more than I do now), and I shoot ~50 rolls of slides a year. Anyway...this past weekend my beloved PZ-1p, 24-90 FA, and 80-320 FA drowned when my camera bag fell into a lake. In my grief, I'm trying to decide: - Replace it with an istD, or - Replace it with the same stuff, figuring that a better, possibly image-stabilized Pentax DSLR will come along soon enough. To paraphrase Herbert Keppler, I am 100% interested in taking pictures and 0% interested in manipulating them on a computer--my time is extremely limited. I'd appreciate peoples' comments. Rick Hi, Rick, Happy de-lurking. Nice to finally meet you. If you like slides, and don't want to do any computer stuff, then I'd say that there's lots and lots of film bodies out there to be had real cheap compared to digital. Since you'll want to replace those soggy lenses as well, the money you save by sticking with film as opposed to going digital would go a long way towards financing the new (or used) glass. Or, you could get a couple of film bodies. The possibilities are endless. All of that being said, I have to say that if I had the money, I'd love a dslr - but I don't, so it's a moot point. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
Yes. Stan On Oct 16, 2004, at 5:55 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got Tanja beat on milage though not on looks Have you considered surgery? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999
Thanks Herb. On Oct 16, 2004, at 8:01 AM, Herb Chong wrote: here the are plugins i use all the time. Pictographics iCorrect EditLabPro 4.5 www.picto.com FixerLabs FocusFixer 1.3 www.fixerlabs.com Extensis Intellihance Pro 4 www.extensis.com when necessary, i use Reindeer Graphics Optipix 3.0 www.reindeergraphcis.com Kodak Digital ROC 1.2 www.asf.com Visual Infinity Grain Surgery 2.0 www.visinf.com my workflow consists of 1) copying the files to the hard drive. 2) opening the folder in Thumbs+ and scanning the thumbnails. 3) i'll preview the compositions and look for dust, etc, in the images i like using the Thumbs+ viewer. its color management isn't as good as Photoshop, so i don't make color judgements. 4) if there are any outstanding shots, i load them into Photoshop CS and work on them right away and save the results as Photoshop files at double resolution (6144x4101) 5) once the outstanding shots are done, i'll go back and look for the good shots and work on them in Photoshop CS. this will include near duplicate compositions and any exposure bracketing. some may be saved at double resolution and some may be saved at sensor resolution (3008x2008). 6) all off the files that have been converted to Photoshop's native format and i place them into a Thumbs+ gallery. 7) i run a slide show of the gallery contents and evaluate the images against each other. 8) any that don't stand up as well or are duplicates get reduced if they are at double resolution. the ones i don't like as much this way are removed from the gallery. i'll do 2 or 3 passes like this in a couple of minutes. what's left gets copied into my for printing folder. 9) from the copies in my for printing folder, i make 800x600 (roughly) thumbnails for the web and choose my final crop for 11x14, my normal print size. within Photoshop CS, this is what i normally do: 1) at conversion, set color balance and exposure compensation if needed. i always convert at 6144x4101. other settings in the converter that i have tweaked are saved as the default and used on all images. 2) reduce the resolution to 3008x2008 if there is too much noise or was taken assuming i would crop to this size. i'll crop to a standard size more often with birding shots where i planned this ahead of time. if the image is slightly tilted or has some things that are distracting at the edges, i'll do straightening and cropping. 3) run Photoshop's Auto Contrast with my particular preferences set from the Levels tool for percent white points and black points 4) if necessary, run Shadow/Highlight 5) run EditLab Pro to correct color balance and saturation. it almost always does the right thing with minor tweaks in saturation and nothing else. if it gets it wrong, i usually cancel the filter and try with Photoshop's Photo Filter and Saturation adjustments 6) run FocusFixer with my standard settings 7) convert to 8-bit/channel mode 8) run Intellihance Pro 9) save as Photoshop unless the image is a disaster technically but has amazing content, most of the time in Photoshop is spent in waiting for the FocusFixer filter to run. this is the only sharpening filter i own that does a decent job of deblur. unsharp mask is a completely different filter that doesn't deblur but does local contrast enhancement. it is similar in some ways, but different in others. if i didn't have to do the deblur step, it takes my about 2-3 minutes to produce a typical finished image that needs only to be cropped for printing. the deblur filter takes about 8 minutes on the double res image and about 2 minutes on the normal one. the pain comes when i have to use Photoshop's clone and healing brush tools to fix minor blemishes caused by dust, trash, other other such undesirables that appear. that will be done after EditLab Pro and before deblur. this can take a long time, but i have few images where it is necessary and worth it. panoramas also take a long time, but most of it is waiting for the Pentax batch converter to run to convert the RAW images to JPEG. i'll use Optipix when i am blending exposures to get more dynamic range, Digital ROC when i really need better colors and nothing else seems to work, and Grain Surgery when i need digital noise reduction. i seldom use Digital ROC because its color adjustments can be really weird. with auto white balance on RAW files, i almost never need it anymore. i'll more often use Grain Surgery to add grain to simulate film than to remove noise, but almost never do either anyway. demos are available for all of the above and you can try them yourself. add up the prices of these 6 plugins and you pay a pretty penny, but they let me automate do the right thing to a very high degree. Herb... - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999 I get it. I didn't understand what you meant by plugsin. Bery
Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999
Believe it or not, I was sober when I wrote that. Bery interesting vbg On Oct 16, 2004, at 7:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I get it. I didn't understand what you meant by plugsin. Bery interesting. Where can I read more about these plugsins? Or were they created specifically for your system? Paul On Oct 15, 2004, at 9:44 PM, Herb Chong wrote: i never treat any of my images the same either. neither do my plugins. they can be set to achieve the results i want so long as the inputs are somewhat within reason. that is why i spent the money on specific plugins that can be tailored as to the results i get and not to the amount of any effect i want to apply. Herb... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: Re: *ist D image quality-_Was -Stupid Question #999 I rarely treat two images exactly the same, so plug-ins wold be of little use for me. In truth, the RAW converters adjustments are far more fine and subtle than those of PS. I frequently change saturation by minute amounts in either direction, ditto white balance and color balance. The RAW converter allows extremely fine tuning of those kinds of variables.
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
Hi, my friend does have some problems with exposure with the pentax ringflash (ttl) on Ist D. Any suggestions please? thanks Good light! fra
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
This one time, at band camp, Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my friend does have some problems with exposure with the pentax ringflash (ttl) on Ist D. Any suggestions please? A good start would be to tell us exactly what problem(s) your friend is having. Kind regards Kevin - Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
Don, It has been discussed before the *istD doesn't perform very well with TTL flash. Your best bet is to use the sensitivity setting at ISO400, as that is supposed to give he best results. YMMV. Just give it a try. I found the same problems with my external Metz flash. When I switch from TTL to Automatic, the results are very good. That is using the sensor of the flash instead of the camera. The ISO and aperture settings, as well as focal length information is also in this position transferred o the flash, so it operates just as easy for me as TTL. On Saturday 16 October 2004 13:39, Don Sanderson wrote: FJW I just tried this test again at 15 feet. FJW Same gradual variation except this time all FJW shots were 3-4 stops underexposed. FJW ??? FJW FJW Don FJW FJW -Original Message- FJW From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FJW Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:30 AM FJW To: PDML FJW Subject: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? FJW FJW FJW Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? FJW I took a series of flash shots with the built in flash. FJW 35/3.5 M lens from about 3 feet. FJW All at 1/125 second at full stop increments from 4 to 22. FJW Camera set at M, of course. FJW FJW They don't show anywhere near a full stop difference FJW from one frame (oops!, capture) to the next but more FJW of a gradual 1.5 - 2 stop difference overall from 4 to 22. FJW FJW As usual, I'm baffled. ;-) FJW I'm used to the 5n and Super A which do perfect TTL FJW flash with nearly any lens type or setting. FJW FJW Any idea how this does/should work on the D? FJW Nothing I can look up since it's an unsupported FJW feature. FJW FJW TIA FJW Don FJW FJW FJW FJW -- Frits Wüthrich
Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
Not really, I'm constantly amazed at e-bay prices. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be? Shel -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
Tiny??? Cotty wrote: On 15/10/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: In terms of mileage, wouldn't Tanja be the one to beat? In terms of number of trips, it's probably a contest between Jostein and César. But aren't you in there somewhere? Mileage, yeah. Cesar! Of course, the roving PDML Ambassador! How could I forget, and how will he forgive me ;-) Of course, Jostein being of Viking blood is out to conquer and enslave where allowed so lock up your daughters as he's coming to a roundhouse near you. Me? I am but a tiny pixel on the digital sensor of life.. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
McBroom's is way out of date and has almost no correlation to e-bay prices. Shen wrote: With accord 'McBroom's', it will be 130-170$ in excellent condition for SMCP-M and 170-200$ in Mint condition for SMCP-A -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Value of SMCP 35/2.0 Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be? Shel -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PhotoShop CS-First Impressions
Hi Paul ... I've switched to PS CS, but it hasn't changed my perspective of digital photography. How has switching changed yours? One thing I have noticed is that PS CS allows me to be a more careless shooter because of all the ways a photo can be fudged or fixed in Photoshop. Unfortunately, it just sucks me in to the digital side of things because some of the fixes don't translate directly to the darkroom, which means, from what I've experienced thus far, that the results have to be printed via inkjet or to be sent to a lab that has the equipment to make prints from the files. And, for a BW shooter, that's a bit of a horror, even though there are labs here that do EXCEPTIONAL BW printing from digi files (I wish you guys could see some of the results) Shel From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good move. You won't regret it. Switching to PS CS changed my whole perspective on digital photography.
Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
Tks, Paul Shel From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would guess about $175 to $200. Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be?
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
There's not enough surgery in all of Christendom... Mark Roberts wrote: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got Tanja beat on milage though not on looks Have you considered surgery? ;-) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
The lens in question is neither an M nor an A it's a SMCP, what is commonly called a K lens. Totally different optic. Shel Shen wrote: With accord 'McBroom's', it will be 130-170$ in excellent condition for SMCP-M and 170-200$ in Mint condition for SMCP-A
RE: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
search ebays completed auctions and take the average of the prices sold for. If you don't find any, it's scarce and probably worth more than listed value below JCO -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0 Tks, Paul Shel From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would guess about $175 to $200. Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be?
Re: Value of SMCP 35/2.0
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:11:45 -0700 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Value of SMCP 35/2.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Shel wrote: Any thoughts on what a reasonable eBay price for the above lens might be? I don't know about eBay, but online dealers are charging about $160 to $200. It's come down about 25 percent since 2000, probably because the istD has made the 35/2 FA more desirable and the 35/2K more available. Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
On 16/10/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Tiny??? Cosmically speaking. Man. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Long zoom recommendations
If you can spare $2000, the Sigma 120-300/2.8 AF. Otherwise, the Tokina 100-300/4 AF, which is said to be even better than its manual-focus forebear. Big and heavy, but a fine performer. Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
- Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? Yes. I set the camera at 400 and pray. TTL flash control has never been one of Pentax's strong points, and the TTL on the istD is one of the worst implementations of technology that I have ever had the displeasure of having to tolerate. In a nutshell, it doesn't work. Period. I have posted a series of shots at: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/ All 4 shots were done within a minute of each other on programTTL mode with the 31mm lens, using a Metz 60 series flash. The range was around 10-15 feet. This is typical performance for this camera's TTL flash non control. William Robb
Re: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision I can't resist saying, that I shot enough shots in just 5 weeks (with my *ist D) to pay for it - app. 5000 frames. 5000 shots on film would equals the ammont of film/delveloping, which represents the same value as the *ist D body! The question that needs to be asked though Jens, are you accepting quantity over quality? I am working on a project at the moment where I am happily taking this approach, but in my more typical shooting approach, this isn't my normal style. William Robb
Re: PhotoShop CS-First Impressions
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: PhotoShop CS-First Impressions Good move. You won't regret it. Switching to PS CS changed my whole perspective on digital photography. Gosh Paul, I thought it was the mediocre snapshot camera that swayed you. G William Robb
RE: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
Thanks Bill, I'm finding the same thing. Seems to be ok most of the time at 400 and 1/90th but every so often it misses by a mile on the under side. The two series where it got steadily more underexposed seems to only happen at ISO 200. Haven't tried with A lenses and the 360FGZ, hope that works a LOT better than this. I've actually not had too much trouble in the past with Pentax TTL flash, this was a bit of a shock. Don -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? - Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? Yes. I set the camera at 400 and pray. TTL flash control has never been one of Pentax's strong points, and the TTL on the istD is one of the worst implementations of technology that I have ever had the displeasure of having to tolerate. In a nutshell, it doesn't work. Period. I have posted a series of shots at: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/ All 4 shots were done within a minute of each other on programTTL mode with the 31mm lens, using a Metz 60 series flash. The range was around 10-15 feet. This is typical performance for this camera's TTL flash non control. William Robb
Re: Jostien in Copenhagen
But then aren't we all. Cotty wrote: On 16/10/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Tiny??? Cosmically speaking. Man. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
For a moment there I thought you were the caveman. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? Yes. I set the camera at 400 and pray. TTL flash control has never been one of Pentax's strong points, and the TTL on the istD is one of the worst implementations of technology that I have ever had the displeasure of having to tolerate. In a nutshell, it doesn't work. Period. I have posted a series of shots at: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/ All 4 shots were done within a minute of each other on programTTL mode with the 31mm lens, using a Metz 60 series flash. The range was around 10-15 feet. This is typical performance for this camera's TTL flash non control. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
- Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling For a moment there I thought you were the caveman. Say what? William Robb
Paw: ?????
Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html for Taken *ist D w/200mm/f4.0 ED Macro. Comments solicited appreciated. Thanks, Kenneth Waller
Re: ?????
Should have added - Do you know what this is? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Paw: ? Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html for Taken *ist D w/200mm/f4.0 ED Macro. Comments solicited appreciated. Thanks, Kenneth Waller
Re: ?????
On 16/10/04, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: Should have added - Do you know what this is? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Paw: ? Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html for Very nice. Burnt and/or water damaged pages of a book? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
I actually have reasonable luck with it when using the AF400T big flash. Set the camera to ISO 400, set the flash to TTL, set the camera exposure comp to about -2 and take a few test shots to see if my exposure comp is ok. Also, shoot in Raw - buys you more latitude for the shots that are still off. Using C1 raw converter, correcting the over/under exposure on the whole batch is a snap. This setup is used mainly for weddings - ymmv Bruce Saturday, October 16, 2004, 8:22:39 AM, you wrote: WR - Original Message - WR From: Don Sanderson WR Subject: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? WR Yes. WR I set the camera at 400 and pray. WR TTL flash control has never been one of Pentax's strong points, and WR the TTL on the istD is one of the worst implementations of technology WR that I have ever had the displeasure of having to tolerate. WR In a nutshell, it doesn't work. WR Period. WR I have posted a series of shots at: WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/ WR All 4 shots were done within a minute of each other on programTTL WR mode with the 31mm lens, using a Metz 60 series flash. WR The range was around 10-15 feet. WR This is typical performance for this camera's TTL flash non control. WR William Robb
Re: ?????
On 10/16/04 12:14 PM, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should have added - Do you know what this is? Kenneth Waller Part of a mushroom? Cheers, NB
Re: PhotoShop CS-First Impressions
I've seen some great BW printing from Digi files. A lot of the pro books that come through the agency have some BW. Most of it is inkjet printed with grayscale inks. In regard to how PS CS has changed my perspective on digital photography, it's all about being able to take it to another level. The very fact that the RAW converter allows one to fix a bad digital photo suggests that it will also allow one to optimize a good photo. In regard to printing, I had been scanning all of my film and printing on inkjet for quite some time. This is partly because none of my clients want transparencies. They all want digital files. Most of the top-dollar pros I've encountered have been printing exclusively inkjet for several years. It's very difficult to top it with a wet print, and with color, the photographer gives up control. I still print some BW in the darkroom and hope to do more this winter. I have a lot of 25 year old frames that I've never printed. Some great pics of my kids. So I hope to get down there and do some of that. I'm also hoping to do some more MF studio BW over the winter. But I've had fair success printing BW on the Epson 2200 as well. It does have a light black ink cartridge and is able to produce a somewhat satisfactory grayscale. Of course it works better with some images than with others. I'm thinking about getting a custom ink set for BW. I have an Epson 1200 that's just sitting. Perhaps I could adapt it for BW. On Oct 16, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul ... I've switched to PS CS, but it hasn't changed my perspective of digital photography. How has switching changed yours? One thing I have noticed is that PS CS allows me to be a more careless shooter because of all the ways a photo can be fudged or fixed in Photoshop. Unfortunately, it just sucks me in to the digital side of things because some of the fixes don't translate directly to the darkroom, which means, from what I've experienced thus far, that the results have to be printed via inkjet or to be sent to a lab that has the equipment to make prints from the files. And, for a BW shooter, that's a bit of a horror, even though there are labs here that do EXCEPTIONAL BW printing from digi files (I wish you guys could see some of the results) Shel From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good move. You won't regret it. Switching to PS CS changed my whole perspective on digital photography.
Re: Paw: ?????
A stack of moldy tortillas? vbg Seriously, it's an interesting image, and I have no idea what it is. It appears that it could be something natural, like a fungi or mushroom of some sort. Paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 12:11 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html for Taken *ist D w/200mm/f4.0 ED Macro. Comments solicited appreciated. Thanks, Kenneth Waller
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
I've had fairly good luck with the AF 400T as well. I generally minus the exposure comp a bit as you've indicated. I always use a sof'shoulder or omnibounce. Paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 12:36 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I actually have reasonable luck with it when using the AF400T big flash. Set the camera to ISO 400, set the flash to TTL, set the camera exposure comp to about -2 and take a few test shots to see if my exposure comp is ok. Also, shoot in Raw - buys you more latitude for the shots that are still off. Using C1 raw converter, correcting the over/under exposure on the whole batch is a snap. This setup is used mainly for weddings - ymmv Bruce Saturday, October 16, 2004, 8:22:39 AM, you wrote: WR - Original Message - WR From: Don Sanderson WR Subject: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses? Has anyone played with this enough to figure it out? WR Yes. WR I set the camera at 400 and pray. WR TTL flash control has never been one of Pentax's strong points, and WR the TTL on the istD is one of the worst implementations of technology WR that I have ever had the displeasure of having to tolerate. WR In a nutshell, it doesn't work. WR Period. WR I have posted a series of shots at: WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/ WR All 4 shots were done within a minute of each other on programTTL WR mode with the 31mm lens, using a Metz 60 series flash. WR The range was around 10-15 feet. WR This is typical performance for this camera's TTL flash non control. WR William Robb
PAW: Another Side of Detroit
Few realize that the Detroit suburbs are chock full of lakes and trees. The image of downtown casts the entire area in unfortunate tones of gray and black. In truth, the metropolitan area is one of the most beautiful of any large city. Here's a shot of Sylvan Lake at sunset. I grabbed this on the way back from shooting my wakeboarding series. It's less than 15 miles from the city limits. There are hundreds of lakes within 25 miles of the city center. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2791439 Paul
S/N 5191683
Just picked up my DA 14 f2.8 at the post office. Not the first on the list with it, but the first North American? Anyway, I definitely set the record as the PDMLer who waited longest for it after placing an order (on 3 June). Nicely built, heavy, lots of resistance in manual focus. Thanks, Nguyen. Thanks, Manolo. Setting the *ist D to MTF program line yields f5.6 in sunlight. This is where Pentax thinks the lens is best. Makes sense: two stops below wide open. Unfortunately, DOF marks are not provided for apertures wider than f8. You kids behave. Papa's gonna play with his new toy. Joe
60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
Does anyone know if there are any lenses that will work on the K-mount in the 60mm - 65mm range, and what they may be? Would even consider a screw mount that can be adapted. Thanks! Shel
RE: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
You may be able to find a 58mm in M42. I have never understood why lens makers always left a big gap between 55mm and 85mm. 68mm would have filled that gap nicely and they could have easily made a F2.0 at that focal length too. JCO -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount Does anyone know if there are any lenses that will work on the K-mount in the 60mm - 65mm range, and what they may be? Would even consider a screw mount that can be adapted. Thanks! Shel
Re: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
I looked at my files of K and M42 lens photographs in the folder, 60mm to 79mm. I found nothing that begins with a 6; just the Pentax 77mm FA Limited, a Carl Zeiss Jena 75/1.5 Biotar in M42, and and a Voigtlander Color Heliar 75/2.5K. No 58mm lenses, either. Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Re: Pentax 2x converter A
He said he was considering the A2X-S converter. Of all the Pentax converter it is probably the best all around choice. You can use it with any long glass Pentax has ever made, which is not the case with the L version. Paul paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 5:37 PM, Peter J. Alling wrote: Which converter A, there are according to BOZ's site three, the A-S the A-L and the Takumar A? http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/teleconverters/index.html Super Dave wrote: Has anyone had any experience with this? Thanks, David -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
Voightlander is selling with the Chrome Bessaflex (Topcon look alike), a 58mm Topcor 1.4. Paul Stregevsky wrote: I looked at my files of K and M42 lens photographs in the folder, 60mm to 79mm. I found nothing that begins with a 6; just the Pentax 77mm FA Limited, a Carl Zeiss Jena 75/1.5 Biotar in M42, and and a Voigtlander Color Heliar 75/2.5K. No 58mm lenses, either. Paul Franklin Stregevsky -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Flash dedication ?
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:35:06 -0400 Collin wrote: I picked up an Achiever flash with Ricoh module. Is it the same as Pentax? I can't recall whether Achiever is another brand of my Ritz Quantaray 9500, which uses brand-specific modules, too. For the Quantaray, I investigated this very question about two years ago, when I wanted to use the Quantaray on a Ricoh XR-P, which supports TTL flash. Ritz's national tech support line tried to answer my question, by email and phone, but they seemed unable to grasp the subtleties of the question. Here are the facts: - Ritz sells (or sold) both a Pentax manual-focus module (PX) and a Ricoh module (RC). - I never owned the Ritz Ricoh module, because, as I recall, there was something confusing about the Ritz part numbers or the box. Either both modules bore the same part number, or both used the same box, which may have said Pentax manual focus or Pentax/Ricoh manual focus. - I later bought two Ricoh-specific (RC) modules in the Promaster line (Penn Camera's line). I have the box in front of me: FTM 5000 module for Ricoh, no. 2659, made in Hong Kong. In the ProMaster line, both the box and the module are labeled as Ricoh only. - When I informed Ritz that Promaster's line had separate part numbers, so why did Ritz have one (or something like that), they became as confused as I was. Before my XR-P failed, I do remember using it with the ProMaster Ricoh module, without problems. I didn't have the courage to try the PX module; I was afraid I might short something out. This question is very timely, for just today I removed the Quantaray flash from my Super Program, swapped out my Pentax module for the Ricoh module, set the Ricoh module to Automatic and f/5.6, and mounted the rig on my Sears KS Auto (Ricoh XR-2s). Lo and behold, a red LED illuminates in the viewfinder! The Pentax and Ricoh modules look identical, in their controls and their contact pins. I can't wait to use my Sears bodies with autoflash. In a dim auditorium, I find it much easier to focus the Sears than my Super Program. The only reason I kept the Super Program was for the TTL flash, but autoflash (non-TTL) isn't that hard at all. I may soon be down to zero Pentax bodies and my one remaining Pentax lens SMC 35/2K). I hope I'm not kicked off the list... Paul Stregevsky
Re: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
Peter J. Alling wrote: If I remember correctly Cosina's K mount 1.2 normal lens was a 58mm. They are apparently hard to find and rather expensive thought. Cosina's K-mount f/1.2 normal lens was 55mm, like all other third-party f/1/2 lenses in K mount (Porst, Rikenon, Revuenon, Vivitar) or screwmount (Fujinon, Tomioka, Vivitar, Yashinon). The Cosinon's filter size was 58mm. Konica made a 57/1.2. Minolta may have made a 58/1.2. Someone made a 60mm in th e1960s or 1970s, because I own several old books on how to take better pictures, and I kept seeing the 60mm pop up in the credits. Paul Stregevsky
Re: Another Side of Detroit
Timing is everything. Nice capture Paul. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Another Side of Detroit Few realize that the Detroit suburbs are chock full of lakes and trees. The image of downtown casts the entire area in unfortunate tones of gray and black. In truth, the metropolitan area is one of the most beautiful of any large city. Here's a shot of Sylvan Lake at sunset. I grabbed this on the way back from shooting my wakeboarding series. It's less than 15 miles from the city limits. There are hundreds of lakes within 25 miles of the city center. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2791439 Paul
RE: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision
Right, Bill. Even if a very good scanner (better than my 3200 Epson) might get better quality from film, I still get the advantage of getting the pictures fast - and the chance to re-shooting my mistakes at once. Anyway, the digital shots are good enough for my purpose - so why waste time on money on film, developing and scanning? I will, however, occationally shoot slides with my three remaining manuaæ focus Pentax bodies. Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. oktober 2004 17:26 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: De-Lurking and Replacement Decision I can't resist saying, that I shot enough shots in just 5 weeks (with my *ist D) to pay for it - app. 5000 frames. 5000 shots on film would equals the ammont of film/delveloping, which represents the same value as the *ist D body! The question that needs to be asked though Jens, are you accepting quantity over quality? I am working on a project at the moment where I am happily taking this approach, but in my more typical shooting approach, this isn't my normal style. William Robb
Re: ?????
A chantarelle or oyster mushroom? Maybe a bracket fungus. mike Kenneth Waller wrote: Should have added - Do you know what this is? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Paw: ? Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html for Taken *ist D w/200mm/f4.0 ED Macro. Comments solicited appreciated. Thanks, Kenneth Waller
Re: Paw: ?????
Kenneth Waller wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html for Taken *ist D w/200mm/f4.0 ED Macro. Comments solicited appreciated. Thanks, Kenneth Waller Musroom gills? Have you thought about sending a group of these to Games Magazine for a quiz? :) annsan
Re: Another Side of Detroit
Thanks Ken. On Oct 16, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Timing is everything. Nice capture Paul. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Another Side of Detroit Few realize that the Detroit suburbs are chock full of lakes and trees. The image of downtown casts the entire area in unfortunate tones of gray and black. In truth, the metropolitan area is one of the most beautiful of any large city. Here's a shot of Sylvan Lake at sunset. I grabbed this on the way back from shooting my wakeboarding series. It's less than 15 miles from the city limits. There are hundreds of lakes within 25 miles of the city center. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2791439 Paul
Re: Pentax 2x converter A
He said h was considering the converter A2-S. On Oct 16, 2004, at 5:37 PM, Peter J. Alling wrote: Which converter A, there are according to BOZ's site three, the A-S the A-L and the Takumar A? http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/teleconverters/index.html Super Dave wrote: Has anyone had any experience with this? Thanks, David -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Pentax 2x converter A
Thanks... I have purchased a very nice Pentax A2X-S. I appreciate your input. For now it will be used with my 105 macro and 200 f4. I hope to get a 200 2.8 in the future, but I'll need to save my pennies. Thanks again. David
Re: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
How about an FA31mm Limited and a 2x teleconverter? :-) S Shel Belinkoff wrote: Does anyone know if there are any lenses that will work on the K-mount in the 60mm - 65mm range, and what they may be? Would even consider a screw mount that can be adapted. Thanks! Shel
Test - 2 missing messages
John Coyle Brisbane, Australia
Some signs - revised.
I sent a message with a link to a presentation Thursday, but haven't seen it arrive yet. In any case, I've now switched to a folder (because it looked better!), so if the first message arrives, you can safely ignore it Somebody said something about odd signs the other day - well here are some local ones! http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=438687 Obviously, they're all take-offs of traffic signs. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia
A Move to the Dark Side
Yup. I just purchased a 67 with AE pentaprism f/4 165mm with leaf shutter, both in LN condition. Both were obtained for US$500, so I couldn't resist. My old 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 Speed Graphics can rest a while now. I have to go work out now so that I can wield the damn thing! Regards, Bob...
Re: A Move to the Dark Side
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: A Move to the Dark Side Yup. I just purchased a 67 with AE pentaprism f/4 165mm with leaf shutter, Welcome, Brother Blakely. Brother William.
Re: A Move to the Dark Side
Good buy. You will enjoy both camera and lens. Congratulations. Paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 7:36 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: Yup. I just purchased a 67 with AE pentaprism f/4 165mm with leaf shutter, both in LN condition. Both were obtained for US$500, so I couldn't resist. My old 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 Speed Graphics can rest a while now. I have to go work out now so that I can wield the damn thing! Regards, Bob...
Re: A Move to the Dark Side
You'll need a second one for BW. And a third for chromes. :) CRB At 16:36 2004.10.16 -0700, you wrote: Yup. I just purchased a 67 with AE pentaprism f/4 165mm with leaf shutter, both in LN condition. Both were obtained for US$500, so I couldn't resist. My old 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 Speed Graphics can rest a while now. I have to go work out now so that I can wield the damn thing! Regards, Bob... You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the relationship the greater the impact. Howard Hendricks
RE: A Move to the Dark Side
There was no AE prism for the 6x7 or 67, only the 67II had that option. You didn't get a 67II for that price did you? JCO -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A Move to the Dark Side Good buy. You will enjoy both camera and lens. Congratulations. Paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 7:36 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: Yup. I just purchased a 67 with AE pentaprism f/4 165mm with leaf shutter, both in LN condition. Both were obtained for US$500, so I couldn't resist. My old 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 Speed Graphics can rest a while now. I have to go work out now so that I can wield the damn thing! Regards, Bob...
DA 14 First Test
I took it out this evening to my favorite test subject. Results: It is indeed quite good at f2.8 (I think Heiko or Jens first reported this??), and improving, of course, thereafter. Very slight lateral CA on my test subject, visible in PS only with great enlargement. I probably wouldn't have noticed w/o enlargement. OTOH, I do find that sharpening for printing enhances CA. A couple of months ago I shot the same subject with the Zenitar 16 mm. f2.8 fisheye, also mounted on the D. Comparative results: The $125 Zenitar is the sharper lens, and also shows very little CA. Unfortunately the Zenitar still has pronounced distortion on the D (where, of course, one is just using the center of the lens). Conclusion: the DA 14 should provide what I need since it is useable wide open. I wish it had f2.0, but will work around that. (As I've posted before, I often use primes indoors in low light, and need them to be decent wide open.) Okay, Pentax. Next priority is a DA 50-150 f4. (Alternatively, Sigma would please me by coming out with a 50-150 f2.8 that is as good as the EX 70-200 f2.8). Then it must be a DA 18-20 f1.8-2.0. After that I'll be pretty well set. Except for the FA 600 f4. Not interested in the forthcoming DA Limited. Too slow, and I have good primes at 31, 50, and 77. And I'm exhausted from the wait for the DA 14. Joe
Re: A Move to the Dark Side
Ah crap! I just KNEW there was a catch! Regards, Bob... From: Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll need a second one for BW. And a third for chromes. :) CRB At 16:36 2004.10.16 -0700, you wrote: Yup. I just purchased a 67 with AE pentaprism f/4 165mm with leaf shutter, both in LN condition. Both were obtained for US$500, so I couldn't resist. My old 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 Speed Graphics can rest a while now. I have to go work out now so that I can wield the damn thing!
Re: A Move to the Dark Side
No. My error in terminology. I have a meter prism (vs plane pentaprism - no meter). Regards, Bob... From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] There was no AE prism for the 6x7 or 67, only the 67II had that option. You didn't get a 67II for that price did you? JCO From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Good buy. You will enjoy both camera and lens. Congratulations. Paul On Oct 16, 2004, at 7:36 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: Yup. I just purchased a 67 with AE pentaprism f/4 165mm with leaf shutter, both in LN condition. Both were obtained for US$500, so I couldn't resist. My old 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 Speed Graphics can rest a while now. I have to go work out now so that I can wield the damn thing!
RE: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
I believe Topcon made a 58. Of course there are the screw mount 55 Takumars. Very good lenses. Had one of those when I was a teenager with my first SLR in 1966 -- used Honeywall Pentax H2 with 55 mm. f1.8 Takumar. And here I am rambling, showing my age. Joe
Re: *ist-D TTL Flash with M Lenses?
You can tell from the framing. I would have stuck a macro lens right between the landscapes. Peter J. Alling wrote: Your choice of subject... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling For a moment there I thought you were the caveman. Say what? William Robb
Re: Long zoom recommendations
Hi, Peter. I would like to add some longer lens to my small collection. The longest lens I have is my favorite M 135/3.5 - sharp and small. But I need some more. I could buy mint Sigma 135-400 quite cheap [snip] Would I go better with some Pentax zoom in that price range? I plan to use it only for outdoor photography on MZ-6 and *ist D. Thanks for any hints.. I'd suggest, for manual focus lenses, perhaps the A 70-210/4, if that's long enough, or the Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 (one of my favorite lenses). and sorry for my english. Sounds good to me. Fred
Re: Long zoom recommendations
Otherwise, the Tokina 100-300/4 AF, which is said to be even better than its manual-focus forebear. Big and heavy, but a fine performer. I've never used the autofocus version of the AT-X 100-300/4, but it must be fantastic if it's better than the manual focus version. I have some sample shots and a transcription of resolution and contrast results from the Modern Photo review of the manual focus version at http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/x1003004/ . The two versions are optically and mechanically quite different. The manual focus design is a one-touch zoom, while the autofocus design is a two-touch design (I believe). Fred
Re: Pentax 2x converter A
[The a 2X-S's] are very well made. I also had a T6-2X which was optically just as good, and also well made, but didn't have quite such a rock-solid feel to it. Finally, I've also had a Takumar 2X, which felt very flimsy. I've found that the 7-element A 2X-S and the 6-element T6-2X seem to be optically virtually identical (in results, not in design), at least with the lenses that I've used 'em with. I have never found any fault with flimsiness in either TC. The neat thing about the T6-2X is its size - it's maybe only 2/3 the length of the A 2X-S (and not much longer than the A 1.4X-S), and it makes a good match for the compact (even if heavy as a tank) M* or A* 300/4 lenses. The 4-element Takumar-A 2X TC is, well, a typical 4-element design, and is optically mediocre in comparison. All TC's are compromises, of course, but the ubiquitous 4-element designs are really not worth using (in my opinion). Fred
Re: Thanks for the advise - M200 f4
Has anyone had experience with the 2x Pentax conv.? I have several mixed opinions from fellow photographers...some swear by a good teleconverter, and others say the have never met a good one. David, take a look at the concurrent thread entitled Pentax 2x converter A for some comments on Pentax 2X TC's. Fred
Re: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
Well, Steve, that's totally not my style no desire for an autofocus lens to be used on my older bodies in this case, and, for no other reason than I can't stand the added bulk, weight, reduced light transmission or inconvenience (optical quality notwithstanding) I don't use teleconvertors. I borrowed a TC from Stan one time and used it on a tele lens I was considering, and the darker viewfinder, while acceptable on a tripod mounted long lens, would be unacceptable for most of the other work I do. Oh, I see the smiley inyour message. You were just yanking my chain ;-)) Well, y'got me. Shel [Original Message] From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about an FA31mm Limited and a 2x teleconverter? :-) S Shel Belinkoff wrote: Does anyone know if there are any lenses that will work on the K-mount in the 60mm - 65mm range, and what they may be? Would even consider a screw mount that can be adapted. Thanks!
Re: 60mm - 65mm Lens for K Mount
I believe there were at least a couple of 58mm lenses both Minolta and Topcon had one, iirc. Hmm, that Ziess Jena 75/1.5 Biotar sounds very interrrestink. Thanks for mentioning it. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] I looked at my files of K and M42 lens photographs in the folder, 60mm to 79mm. I found nothing that begins with a 6; just the Pentax 77mm FA Limited, a Carl Zeiss Jena 75/1.5 Biotar in M42, and and a Voigtlander Color Heliar 75/2.5K. No 58mm lenses, either. Paul Franklin Stregevsky
