Re: Don Nelson

2006-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Won't leave much for Norm to do then, will it. He's got way too much time on his hands. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

RE: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim King Sent: 10 November 2006 03:54 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT - One for the Darwin Awards... Cotty wrote on Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:21 -0800:

RE: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread Bob W
Exactly. I'll bet there was no warning on the rocket saying Do not light while stuck up your arse. If that's not gross negligence I don't know what is. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 10

Bulk K10D batteries purchase for Vancouver BC fellows

2006-11-10 Thread Alan Chan
Now we all know K10D can use Minolta NP-400 battery. I am about to make a purchase from BH and can purchase up to ten NP-400 the most. I will keep 2 for myself, the rest will be distributed to Vancouver fellows who want brand name batteries cheap. Based on my calculation, each NP-400 will cost you

RE: PESO - Another Day

2006-11-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/11/10 Fri AM 02:09:56 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Another Day Thank you for your short and precise English lessons, folks. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) You should now be able to

RE: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/11/10 Fri AM 08:03:53 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - One for the Darwin Awards... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim King Sent: 10 November 2006

Re: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/11/10 Fri AM 04:07:13 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT - One for the Darwin Awards... Sound to me like he has a legitimate suit against the fireworks company, and against the local government for not tending more fully to his welfare. I

Re: Some PUG comments 1 of 3

2006-11-10 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Josteinn, thanks for your comments. Abandoned Chairs by Jaume Lahuerta (...) The chairs do look a bit lonesome, but the message doesn't come across as very strong to me. So, they don't look abandoned enough? However, the fabric on the left chair is part of a Carnival disguise that had been

Re: Selling price for a istD

2006-11-10 Thread Thibouille
Would 600€ be OK for ist-D (under warranty till may) + battery grip + 18-55 +1GB CF + 4GB Microdrive considering in was bought in Europe and so had pay stupid taxes and so on... ? I understand it may seem high for US buyers... Any advice ? -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille

Re: Some PUG comments 1 of 3

2006-11-10 Thread Jostein Øksne
Jaume, i think what I meant to say is that it looks, to me, more like a renovation project than something abandoned. The laquer/finish of the two large chairs still looks rich and smooth, while the seats and the legs have marks of heavy use. Together it gives me the impression of recent activity.

FA: selling my LX, MX, 3.5/15 mm

2006-11-10 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
I've put my late-model LX in like-new condition, a beautiful black MX, an SMA-A 3.5/15 mm lems and a few other items on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=011sspagename=STRK%3AME SE%3AITviewitem=item=320047393796rd=1rd=1 The other items can be found by calling up my other

Re: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread Jostein Øksne
Crap? I think it's a blast. :-) Jostein On 11/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list has obviously hit bottom. Enough of this crap! Paul On Nov 9, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote: So, why are we making him the butt of our jokes? On 11/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some PUG comments 3 of 3

2006-11-10 Thread Jostein Øksne
On 11/9/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forerunner by Ann Sanfedele Running ahead into abanonment... lol... This pic certainly hit home with me. Thanks, J --- but I hope not for any personal reasons :) hehe. Only in the humor department! Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

*istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-10 Thread Kevin Waterson
What is the maximum size of a Compact Flash card for the *istD? Kind regards Kevin -- -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Looks like i'll have to find something else to do over winter

2006-11-10 Thread David J Brooks
Receievd an email from one of the fellows i have taken the darkroom class with today. He usually takes both fall and winter classes, i have been doing mostly the winter. Seems like the class this fall is down to 4 members and will not be offered this winter unless the office gets enough

Re: Don Nelson

2006-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/11/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Don's been a real inspiration, the way he's handled this most difficult of situations with grace, courage and determination. I wish him all the best, and look forward to seeing

FS Friday lenses

2006-11-10 Thread cbwaters
Trimming the fat to make way for future purchases. Make an offer OFF-LIST. Still have the Battery pack FG for all MZ/ZX series cameras. NIB $25 SMC-F 35-135 macro F3.5-4.5. KEH BGN+ cognition but good overall. Rear cap included. $50 Zenit Jupiter 9 85/2 screw mount lens (M42). EX

Re: Some PUG comments 3 of 3

2006-11-10 Thread Dave Kennedy
Thanks for taking the time to do this Jostein. (and thanks for the comment) dk On 11/9/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fort St Andries by Henk Terhell A classic ruin shot. What makes this one stand out, IMO, is the repetition of the fallen chunks on the right and beyond the arch.

Re: BH Rebate Experience?

2006-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Doug! Jack --- Doug Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither, really, but it's a Pentax rebate handled for them by a fulfillment company. I mailed my form in on 23 Sept and received the $100 check 6 Nov (for 77mm purchase from BH). Mi Doug On 11/09/06 17:31, Paul Stenquist

Re: BH Rebate Experience?

2006-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
Obviously, compared to a straight discount. When a rebate is a feature of an item's pricing, I'm pleased at the prospect of eventually recovering a portion of the cost. The rebate process, however, can be a benign frustration. Godders, I'd advise against your buying any discounted item simply

Re: FS Friday lenses

2006-11-10 Thread Mat Maessen
On 11/10/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zenit Jupiter 9 85/2 screw mount lens (M42). EX condition (good glass, very minor dust, some normal wear on body). plastic case included. $60 This is a highly underrated lens, especially if it's the later multicoated version (does it say MC on

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Mat Maessen
On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flare has not been a problem with my Super Taks, however, as you know, I'm obsessive about lens hoods. I paid more for the lens hood for my 135/3.5 than I did for the lens itself. :-) Now to track down the not-really-elusive 35/3.5... -Mat

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mat Maessen Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS Now to track down the not-really-elusive 35/3.5... I think I have one of those William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: BH Rebate Experience?

2006-11-10 Thread graywolf
That is easy to fix, just don't bother with it. Oh, you mean you want the $200 without the hassle involved... when was the last time someone simply handed you 200 bucks? Jack Davis wrote: I generally understand the workings of such programs, just wanted to learn of any direct knowledge

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I have both the SMCT and the K version of the 35/3.5 absolutely killer little lens if you dont mind the slow speed. Good for daylight shooting only really. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006

Re: Damaged/Corrupted SD Card

2006-11-10 Thread graywolf
Gaffers tape is your friend. David J Brooks wrote: My only film problem so to speak, is with the 6x7 lately. I sometimes hit those clips on the inderside of the camera from the lock to unlock position, either by my clothing or brush etc. Sometime i ~think~ i'm winding film, when it

Re: Don Nelson

2006-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On 11/10/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/11/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Won't leave much for Norm to do then, will it. He's got way too much time on his hands. Yes, well, we tried to stop Norm. Really. As he was dialing, we all yelled, No, Norm, don't do it!

OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread Joseph Tainter
Exactly. I'll bet there was no warning on the rocket saying Do not light while stuck up your arse. If that's not gross negligence I don't know what is. -- Cheers, Bob - Something like: Insertion of lit fireworks into any orifice may lead to severe bodily injury. The local government

Re: BH Rebate Experience?

2006-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
LOL...You're right. My use of the word hate was too strong and taken too literally. Jack --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is easy to fix, just don't bother with it. Oh, you mean you want the $200 without the hassle involved... when was the last time someone simply handed you

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've used these slow lenses both during the day and in the evening. I don't find the slow speed too much of a detriment. On the DSLR's I've stopped down the 105/2.8 to as much as F11 and was able to focus well. I think that's because these's no split prism screen to darken and because the

Re: BH Rebate Experience?

2006-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
BTW, I just checked the BH site and see that the $200 rebate for the 12~24mm has been changed to $100. As mentioned earlier, their add in Dec. Sutterbug indicates $100. If it gets any lower, I may buy it. |-)) Jack

RE: *istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Perhaps you mean capacity? I recall that 4GB was mentioned at some point ... but don't base any decisions on my comment. I mostly posted it to stimulate interest in the question as I'm curious as well. Shel [Original Message] From: Kevin Waterson What is the maximum size of a Compact

Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0611/06111001leicam8statement.asp Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Dont be confused, we are talking about a 35mm lens, not a 105mm lens. Its much easier to focus a 105mm lens than a 35mm lens at the same f-stop/speed due to the 105mm lens having way way less DOF ( higher image magnification actually) . Slow wide angle lenses are notoriously hard to focus on any

Waiting for a FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro.. Not for the new DFA....

2006-11-10 Thread Eziocapo
Hello Pentaxians, I'm waiting, since two months ago, for one Pentax FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro, not the DFA. I'm yet lover of film photography and I've a lot of film Pentax bodies (and lenses, of course). Some friend has for sale a like new one, with pouch and original box? Thanks in advance. Ezio

Re: *istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-10 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 11:52:58PM +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote: What is the maximum size of a Compact Flash card for the *istD? Kind regards Kevin As far as I know it can use any CF card (up to the 32GB that the CF spec allows), although the largest CF card I've seen is 16GB. But I really

Re: Waiting for a FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro.. Not for the new DFA....

2006-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
The D-FA 50mm macro works just fine on film cameras by the way, all D-FA lenses include aperture rings and are full-frame. -Adam Eziocapo wrote: Hello Pentaxians, I'm waiting, since two months ago, for one Pentax FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro, not the DFA. I'm yet lover of film photography and

Re: PESO - Mantis

2006-11-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
This is the kind of shot where macro is so difficult. The DOF is not quite deep enough for showing the mantis well, but the background is wonderful. For me, the large dark part of the flower really steals my attention away from the subject. It is a wonderful subject and sounds like you had

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0611/06111001leicam8statement.asp What a pile of crap! One would expect that buying a freaking $8k camera from a company that touts itself as the finest purveyors of photographic and optical equipment on the

Re: PESO: On the Bench

2006-11-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Excellent slice of life type shot. It is pleasant and nice to look at. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, November 9, 2006, 12:38:01 AM, you wrote: BA Hello PDML, BA I was walking in the town, looking to shoot something completely BA different when this scene caught my eye: BA

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0611/06111001leicam8statement.asp What a pile of crap! One would expect that buying a freaking $8k camera from a company that touts itself as the finest purveyors of photographic

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0611/06111001leicam8statement.asp What a pile of crap! One would expect that buying a freaking $8k camera from a company that touts itself as the finest purveyors of photographic and

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On 11/10/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd not expect flawless, as nothing is, but I'd also not expect major showstopping issues like the magenta-cast problem and the IR issue. I was using hyperbole to make my point. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.

RE: New K10D brochure

2006-11-10 Thread Manuel Magalhães
Thanks Pedro, You could have told me! :-)) Manuel -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Pedro Oliveira Enviada: quinta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2006 23:29 Para: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Assunto: New K10D brochure Hello. Don't if this is old

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Don't you be confused. While I used a 105 recently, I've also used wide lenses as well. Until you spend some time using the current DSLRs, you've no idea about how bright or useful the finder may be with slower and wider lenses. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
YOU missed MY point, and that is that a 35mm lens is NEVER going to be as easy as a 105mm lens to focus at the same f-stop/speed on ANY given camera and YOU gave the 105mm lens as your reference/example when the post was about the 35/3.5 lenses in particular. Dont tell me that if you use a new

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Just to be doubly sure about my experiences, I attached a 35/3.5 to the DSLR and easily focused @ f8.0 in a dark hallway where the contrast was not very great. YMMV. Of course, it may be that I've used these lenses on older bodies for a much longer time than you have, and may just be better at

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I didn't say it's as easy as using the 105, but in truth, it didn't seem much different, either. I notice you're starting to use the same rhetoric as in earlier threads. Once again, totally uncalled for. My comments are not BS - they reflect my experiences. BTW, I wasn't trying to prove any

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Cant you read?, I said COMPARED to 105mm/telephoto lenses. I can focus just about any lens I own on any camera I own in any light, but its much harder and much slower to get it right as the lenses get wider and/or slower. Using a 105mm lens as an example when the topic was specifically about a

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
But what I am telling you is your EXPERIENCE was with a different, totally wrong, lens. You gave the 35mm lens experience AFTER your inital post and mentioned nothing of it in your original post which is specifically what I refuting strongly. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What difference does it make when I used the 35mm lens. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and checked both lenses to be sure of my earlier experiences with the 35mm. What could be more fair. How could using a 35mm lens when talking about a 35mm lens be wrong. Please check your synapses

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, for me, on the istDS, the ease of focus is similar at equal f-stops. I am not trying to say this, I am saying it. Try it yourself and see what your experience is. Many modern finders and screens are brighter than many older finders and screens. While i don't know the physics of it, I

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Dear JCO, Like I said twice before, I didn't notice much difference in focusing the 35mm @ F8 compared to the 105. As said before, YMMV. Why argue about personal experiences and opinion. It seems that anyone who has an opinion or an experience different than your is a liar or full of BS.

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
THIS ISNT AN OPINION OR AN EXPERIENCE MATTER. This is the laws of physics and basic optical properties of lenses. THATS MY POINT. If you think a 35mm lens is just as easy to focus as a 105mm lens at the same speed then you are just plain wrong, not just of a different opinion than mine. Whats next

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Are you trying to say a 35mm f3.5 lens is as easy to focus as a 105mm f3.5 lens? If you are I strongly disagree and it has nothing to do with the finder ( at least general purpose finders like the ones found in most SLR/DSLRS ). Newer cameras dont have magic finders that change the laws of

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Oh, f*** you. Now you're saying I just made this all up. You're quite a piece of work. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 11/10/2006 12:34:12 PM Subject: RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS It makes a difference

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread cbwaters
But Shel, can't you see you're wrong? It makes no difference if you're *actually* wrong or not, you just ARE wrong. Reading this goofy argument is like arguing with my wife... CW - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Newer cameras dont have magic finders that change the laws of physics... What these in particular do have is a 1.5x magnification, which should change your perception about what you are argumenting on/trying to focus. Sure, an 105 may be easier to

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Don't forget the banding issue LOL I can understand Frank's comments, although he may have been very strong in his wording to make his point. But I agree - Leica should have been able to produce better results the first time around, but they may have been under pressure to release the camera

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
We're done here. have a nice day, better yet, a good life. My experience is valid, your comments are not since you've not used the lenses in question on an istDS. Anything you say is based on different experiences and a lack of experience with current finders. Shel [Original Message]

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Are you kidding? I dont need to buy a new finder to know that general purpose finders ( the ones found in most SLRS, not specialty finders specifically designed for wide angle or telephoto lenses), dont change the basic optical properties of lenses and the wider the lens, the deeper the depth of

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
But you don't own an istDS or any other modern autofocus camera, do you? You don't own a camera with the same viewfinder and focusing screen, do you? BTW, I never said the 35mm was the same, just that it was similar, and that it was easy to focus. Can't YOU read? Shel [Original Message]

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
It makes a difference because if you didnt say you used a 35mm lens in your original post you could be saying you did now just to save face when you didnt at the time of the original post. There is no doubt, the slower or wider a lens gets, the harder it is to manually focus on any SLR camera with

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
YOU DIDNT SAY you used a 35mm lens, you said you used a 105mm lens as you example and also implied that it was probably the newer finders making the difference which is wrong, when the lens you gave as your recent experience isnt the same focal length. Not even close. jco -Original

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, I recognized that I am wrong. I am so very wrong ... and I am a liar, a BS artist, and the lowest form of pond scum. I don't recall arguing with your wife ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: cbwaters But Shel, can't you see you're wrong? It makes no difference if you're

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Well your wrong, because its a simple matter of depth of field, the more there is the harder it is to find the exact point of focus. I suggest you buy two of your magic cameras and put two lenses on them at the same time with same speed ( and quality )and compare which is easier to focus, the

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 10, 2006, at 14:50, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Well your wrong, because its a simple matter of depth of field, the more there is the harder it is to find the exact point of focus. I put it to you that you are arguing facts and figures against a person who merely stated what his

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Sorry, but DUMB DUMB DUMB. The 105mm also becomes longer on a DSLR finder so that argument doesnt hold water. The DOF is what is making the difference and NO finder can ever change that characteristic, and its a LENS property, not a finder property. And of course its assumed all else being equal,

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget the banding issue LOL I can understand Frank's comments, although he may have been very strong in his wording to make his point. But I agree - Leica should have been able to produce better results the first time around, but

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: YOU missed MY point, and that is that a 35mm lens is NEVER going to be as easy as a 105mm lens to focus at the same f-stop/speed on ANY given camera and YOU gave the 105mm lens as your reference/example when the post was about the 35/3.5 lenses in particular. Dont tell

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget the banding issue LOL I can understand Frank's comments, although he may have been very strong in his wording to make his point. But I agree - Leica should have been able to produce better results the

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Well dont post stupid examples and then later change your story and you wont get accused of making things up as you go along. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:38 PM To: Pentax-Discuss

PESO - Three Little Shrooms

2006-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Comment appreciated Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
OK, I challenge the entire list on the matter. Does anyone here actually find or believe that wider lenses are just as easy to focus as 3X longer lenses at the same fstop? I have never found this to be the case with many many lenses and many many cameras of all types and sizes over the years.

Re: PESO - Three Little Shrooms

2006-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
The shrooms dark background gives them great definition. Mottled right image portion adds to the scene. I'd like some sharpening if printed. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in the Upper Peninsula

RE: PESO - Three Little Shrooms

2006-11-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sorry, can't say I like this one. First, I find it out of balance. In an odd way it is symmetric, but my brain does tell me it is out of balance. I've also got problems to relate to the motif, I can't figure out what way is up. But the warm colours are cool, that's something ;-) Tim Mostly

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0611/06111001leicam8statement.asp An expectation of miracles is oft disappointed. They'll sort it out and take care of their customers. What more could you want? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 08:40:51PM +, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Newer cameras dont have magic finders that change the laws of physics... What these in particular do have is a 1.5x magnification, . . . They don't, you know. Any given

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/11/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I challenge the entire list on the matter. Does anyone here actually find or believe that wider lenses are just as easy to focus as 3X longer lenses at the same fstop? I have never found this to be the case with many many lenses and

Re: PESO - Mantis

2006-11-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
BM http://www.members.aol.com/figgaro/mantis.jpg I missed the original on this. I like it ... but the mantis isn't quite sharp enough to pop from the background. It might stand a little sharpening. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 10, 2006, at 1:57 PM, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 08:40:51PM +, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: What these in particular do have is a 1.5x magnification, . . . They don't, you know. Any given lens fitted on my *ist-D produces exactly the same image magnification (and

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/11/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0611/06111001leicam8statement.asp An expectation of miracles is oft disappointed. They'll sort it out and take care of their customers. What more could

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread P. J. Alling
No wonder they're on the edge of bankruptcy... Epson or Leica? frank theriault wrote: On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget the banding issue LOL I can understand Frank's comments, although he may have been very strong in his wording to make his point. But

RE: PESO - Three Little Shrooms

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ken, I love the light in this photo. Very nice. Shel [Original Message] From: Kenneth Waller http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No there isn't. You are DUMB and what you experience is WRONG. You are also a LIAR! And don't change the subject. We were not talking about 50mm lenses. Stick only to the 35mm example. (You know I mean that only in the nicest way) Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image Studio

Re: Some PUG comments 1 of 3

2006-11-10 Thread Harald Rust
Jostein, Thanks for the kind comment and taking the time to critique this month's gallery. Greetings from the currently 'very wet' Washington state Harald Jostein wrote: River's End by Harald Rust Harald, you certainly live up to your PUG reputation with this image. I think it's a great pic,

November PUG is open

2006-11-10 Thread Harald Rust
Keith, Thanks much. I agree this month's PUG is enchanting. Harald Keith McG wrote: A truly excellent PUG (imo). My personal favourites... H Rust: River's End - Because I'm a sucker for sunsets; but very nicely shot.

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS They don't, you know. Any given lens fitted on my *ist-D produces exactly the same image magnification (and brightness) in the viewfinder as does a similar lens fitted to an MX, but the image area

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list? OK, I challenge the entire list on the matter. Photographers who are experienced at rapid shooting with plain matte screens tend to key on particular things to determine

Re: PESO - Three Little Shrooms

2006-11-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like this. It's an unbalanced composition, which adds interest in this case as it points out that these mushrooms are growing out of a vertical surface. Well seen. Perhaps a wee bit oversaturated, but I'm looking at it on my laptop, so just ignore me:-). Paul --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 10, 2006, at 4:44 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: the camera makers themselves even tell you to focus at longest setting and then zoom to length you want because its easier to focus accurately at longer lengths This is not a good way to work. Most lenses aren't precise enough to hold

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS Newer cameras dont have magic finders that change the laws of physics... They often have more efficient finders that take better advantage of the laws of physics. William Robb -- PDML

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
Paul Stenquist wrote: On Nov 10, 2006, at 4:44 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: the camera makers themselves even tell you to focus at longest setting and then zoom to length you want because its easier to focus accurately at longer lengths This is not a good way to work. Most lenses aren't

Re: Don Nelson

2006-11-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Ah - ok so he could see it when he got out... Thanks cw, I got your mail cbwaters wrote: I had the same sudden pang of fear there Ann. You can mail him at his home address. I'll mail it to you off-list. CW - Original Message - From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/06, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed: Something like: Insertion of lit fireworks into any orifice may lead to severe bodily injury. The local government needs to post similar signs at each street corner and in all public buildings. There should also be a televised ad

Re: Don Nelson

2006-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: As he was dialing, we all yelled, No, Norm, don't do it! It's so very early in the morning in England, you'll disturb our good friend Cotty from his sleep. Please, for the Love of God, don't do it, man! But he wouldn't listen. Then he

RE: OT - One for the Darwin Awards...

2006-11-10 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 11 November 2006 00:16 To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - One for the Darwin Awards... On 10/11/06, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed: Something like: Insertion of lit

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-10 Thread Christian
Goddamit, Shel! you owe me a new laptop. This one is full of Cabernet. :-) -- Christian Shel Belinkoff wrote: No there isn't. You are DUMB and what you experience is WRONG. You are also a LIAR! And don't change the subject. We were not talking about 50mm lenses. Stick only to the 35mm

Re: Leica Comments on M8 Quality Issues

2006-11-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Leica, of course. They've been teetering on the edge for quite some time. An M8 failure could be the grand finale. Paul On Nov 10, 2006, at 6:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: No wonder they're on the edge of bankruptcy... Epson or Leica? frank theriault wrote: On 11/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL

Re: OT: CanoScan 8600F

2006-11-10 Thread John Celio
I've been thinking of upgrading the 2450 to a 4990 or V700 since I have this 645 here to play with. I'm just not sure yet how much I'll do with it so I'm a little reluctant to spend the money as yet. I'd love a Nikon 8000 but it's pricier than I want to go for. The Epson 4990 is a great

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