*pod wanking (was Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III)

2013-06-13 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote: I compromise and settle for a monopod. it works almost as well as a tripod but its quicker in usage. On my Alaska cruise a couple of weeks ago, I brought along a monopod and two bean bags. Didn't really use any of them -- conditions were always

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-07 Thread steve harley
on 2013-05-30 12:44 eactiv...@aol.com wrote Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. [...] http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm i like it, but for the tilt and, to be honest, the title (not sure why, i understand the intent) if i let go of this is a giant

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-07 Thread steve harley
on 2013-06-05 1:03 Bob W wrote On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:41, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/duelingcamerasdiptych2.jpg She doesn't know how to hold the camera nor how to carry her stuff -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-07 Thread Bob W
On 7 Jun 2013, at 20:53, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-06-05 1:03 Bob W wrote On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:41, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/duelingcamerasdiptych2.jpg She doesn't know how to hold the camera nor

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-07 Thread steve harley
on 2013-06-06 5:12 Paul Stenquist wrote I've been better about wearing hats those days to keep the sun off my old skin, but the brim interferes with a camera. So when shooting I've been known to resort to the backwards baseball cap. most of the warm season i shoot while wearing a

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
--- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: June 5, 2013 6/5/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 5, 2013, at 00:41 , P.J. Alling

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-06 Thread kwaller
Three crappy monopods are almost as good as one crappy tripod. Especially if you don't use any of them. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-06 Thread Bob W
On 6 Jun 2013, at 12:12, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: At least the backwards baseball cap protects one's neck. The hood is useless. I've been better about wearing hats those days to keep the sun off my old skin, but the brim interferes with a camera. So when shooting I've

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-06 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III On 6 Jun 2013, at 12:12, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: At least the backwards baseball cap protects one's neck. The hood is useless. I've been better about wearing hats those days to keep the sun off my old

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread Bob W
On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:41, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't own at least three crappy tripods... I own 3 good tripods Everyone should own a good tripod, someday I'm going to get one. Someday I might use one of them I posted this a year or so ago, notice where

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: J.C. O'Connell On 6/5/2013 1:41 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: If you don't own at least three crappy tripods... Everyone should own a good tripod, someday I'm going to get one. I posted this a year or so ago, notice where the photographer keeps her tripod. Not to mention shooting with the

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
: Nightshot - American Pie III From: J.C. O'Connell On 6/5/2013 1:41 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: If you don't own at least three crappy tripods... Everyone should own a good tripod, someday I'm going to get one. I posted this a year or so ago, notice where the photographer keeps her tripod

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Love the lrft hand position supporting the lens as well. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:41 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't own at least three crappy tripods... Everyone should own a good tripod, someday I'm going to get one. I posted this a year or so ago, notice

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 5, 2013, at 00:41 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't own at least three crappy tripods... Everyone should own a good tripod, someday I'm going to get one. I posted this a year or so ago, notice where the photographer keeps her tripod. Not to mention

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 5, 2013, at 00:41 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this a year or so ago, notice where the photographer keeps her tripod. Not to mention shooting with the reversed lens hood...

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:36 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III A tripod is of use every Thanksgiving and Christmas. Using a 10 sec delayed shutter, it allows uncle George (the photographer

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 5, 2013, at 00:41 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this a year or so ago, notice where the photographer keeps her tripod. Not to mention shooting

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-04 Thread P.J. Alling
If you don't own at least three crappy tripods... Everyone should own a good tripod, someday I'm going to get one. I posted this a year or so ago, notice where the photographer keeps her tripod. Not to mention shooting with the reversed lens hood...

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-04 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On 6/5/2013 1:41 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: If you don't own at least three crappy tripods... Everyone should own a good tripod, someday I'm going to get one. I posted this a year or so ago, notice where the photographer keeps her tripod. Not to mention shooting with the reversed lens hood...

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-03 Thread John Sessoms
Well, for one thing, if you want to take a step back from the shot to think about it before tripping the shutter, a tripod lets you do so without losing your composition. From: Eactivist I would certainly be interested how they SPUR creativity. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-06-03 Thread Eactivist
Uh huh. I don't think I will ever be sold on tripods, but starting to get why they are sometimes good and why some people like them. Marnie aka Doe ;-) At least I am moderating my previous very anti-tripod stance. In a message dated 6/3/2013 5:57:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 May 2013 04:44, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my three brackets came out semi-okay. So only used one. This is

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Eactivist
Thanks, Rob. It was shown it at my photography class last night and I mentioned I was thinking of removing the car light streak. Consensus was leave it in. Security is tight at local oil refineries, and it is best to shoot them from far away if you don't want to get hassled. So I was across

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Walt
I feel exactly the same way. I can count the number of times I've used a tripod on one hand, as I generally find them to be more an encumbrance than a tool. That said, I finally broke down and got a decent one the other day when I bought my flash unit, as I'm going to be doing a family

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Eactivist
Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose, technically, one could do set up shots first, move around all

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 31, 2013, at 09:44 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose,

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Rob Studdert
Har, I just wrote about tripods and their creative effect, maybe I should put it on a blog. On 1 June 2013 00:55, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 31, 2013, at 09:44 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah,

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Eactivist
Thanks, Charles, re photo (already minimally rotated, but wasn't going to repost just for that). Hey, that's kind of cool (re mini mini pod). Going to look into that. THANKS. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:57:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, charl...@visi.com writes: I

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Eactivist
I would certainly be interested how they SPUR creativity. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:59:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Har, I just wrote about tripods and their creative effect, maybe I should put it on a blog. On 1 June 2013

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Jack Davis
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:39 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III I feel exactly the same way. I can count the number of times I've used a tripod on one hand, as I generally find them to be more an encumbrance than a tool. That said, I finally broke down and got a decent one

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread kwaller
the camera on it while hunting for the subject/composition. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread David J Brooks
This one works very well Dave On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my three brackets came

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread kwaller
: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III I would certainly be interested how they SPUR creativity. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:59:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Har, I just wrote about tripods and their creative effect, maybe I should put

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Eactivist
Thanks, Dave. M aka D In a message dated 5/31/2013 10:55:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pentko...@gmail.com writes: This one works very well Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-31 Thread Eactivist
Hmmm. That's a good point (re variations). As to the other, I guess I could do handheld trails before tripod use. I'll have to see. (I've only ever really used it before for macros and some Yosemite shots where the view was sort of picked out already.) M aka D :-) In a message dated

PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Eactivist
Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my three brackets came out semi-okay. So only used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure how LR notes

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Walter Hamler
I like it! Looks much better. Great shot. Walt On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Alan C
A really spectacular shot. And so sharp too. Alan C -Original Message- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:44 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie, Much better and very nice too. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like that one, Marnie. Gorgeous light; great results. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent! The only thing I might recommend is a wee bit of counterclockwise rotation to straighten the midpoint vertical and flatten the horizon line. Paul On May 30, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I really like that one, Marnie. Gorgeous light; great results.

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Jack Davis
Subject: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So only used one. This is 4 seconds

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Walt
Yeah, I'd be happy with that shot, Marnie. I'd say you have it down pretty well. :) -- Walt On 5/30/2013 1:44 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Don Guthrie
Oh yeah now we're talking. I hope you feel great satisfaction in reaching a point we had no doubt you would achieve. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 5 Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 14:44:07 -0400 (EDT) From:eactiv...@aol.com To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III Message

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Eactivist
Thanks Walt, Alan, Bob, Walt, Bruce, and shark. Jack -- Think it's about the same number of lights as before (though I did stay 15 minutes later). Just a wider f stop and longer exposure. Made all the difference. Well, IS was off too, which also helped. Paul -- You've got a good eye.

RE: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Best one yet. Looks like Ralf has some competition! ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: May 30, 2013 5/30/13 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered

Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Eactivist
...@aol.com Sent: May 30, 2013 5/30/13 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my three brackets came