Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Mike Bergman
Thanks, Edwina, this is very helpful. I appreciate how much you were able to gather. Thanks, again, Mike. On 9/16/2016 7:34 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote: Mike - there are multiple sites...and it's spread throughout his

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Mike - there are multiple sites...and it's spread throughout his work. Let's see... 6.13 and on, where he talks about the three theories of evolution - and rejects pure randomness. See also 6.33 - where he discusses randomness moving into 'taking of habits' In 6.57 and on, he discusses

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Mike Bergman
Hi Edwina, On 9/16/2016 6:28 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote: Harold, list: Thanks for your comments.   I think one has to, as I said, first define the term 'God'. If by that term, one means a universal

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Harold, list: Thanks for your comments. I think one has to, as I said, first define the term 'God'. If by that term, one means a universal Reason or Mind, then, I acknowledge its reality, and always have. One has only to, as Peirce said, consider the intricate forms and interactions of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen C. Rose
The existence of God amuses me. What about the nature of god. This was radically changed by Jesus who did not appear to accept him as a tribal deity, or the explicit ruler of history in an interventionist mode. etc. I have always assumed Peirce had a mystical experience in a church not far from

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Relations of determination--three diagrams to highlight the strata of possibles, existents and necessitants in the 10-fold classification

2016-09-16 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Jeffrey- thanks for the diagrams - very interesting. I have two comments at the moment. 1) I find the use of the term 'determines' problematic. That's because it suggests, strongly, causality, even an efficient causality. I don't think that the semiosic triad functions in a linear

Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Harold Orbach
My previous message, attached below, didn't get to the Peirce list but only apparently to Ben Novak and Jerry Rhee. The latest exchange, especially attacking Edwina for her personal beliefs about the EXISTENCE of God, i.e., the minority view of that small segment of the inhabitants of the 7th

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hi Jon S, List, You say, "I find it fascinating, and perhaps relevant in this context, that Peirce appealed to his readers' "instinct for that which is rational" in an effort to make up for his inability to lay out his theory of logic 'in a thoroughly satisfactory manner.'" And then, a

[PEIRCE-L] Relations of determination--three diagrams to highlight the strata of possibles, existents and necessitants in the 10-fold classification

2016-09-16 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hi Gary F., Terry, List, Here are three diagrams I am using to explore the relations of determination between signs, objects and interpretants in the 10-fold classification (circa 1903 in the "Nomenclature and Division of Triadic Relations, So far as They are Determined"). The small roman

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List: As just mentioned in my reply to Gary F., in case anyone missed it, here is what I posted a few days ago about the drafts of "A Neglected Argument." To what was Peirce specifically referring as "a theory of the nature of thinking" or "this theory of thinking"? These were both unusual

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: GF: My responses to your four questions and the rest of your post are inserted into it below. Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. GF: It could be those, but it’s also possible that the reference is not that specific; Peirce might even be referring to Pragmatism, or to his

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's Theory of Thinking

2016-09-16 Thread gnox
Jon, My responses to your four questions and the rest of your post are inserted into it below. Gary f. From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com] Sent: 8-Sep-16 21:40 List: Returning to the four questions in my post that started this thread … 1. To what

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Do trees talk to each other? Express emotions and make friends? Barking?

2016-09-16 Thread Eugene Halton
Dear Charles, Myecologist Paul Stamets describes ways trees and other plants have communication through fungal networks. They provide something like a neural net would for a brain. Perhaps one could say that trees have a "brain" without needing a brain. And that humans, despite having

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Do trees talk to each other? Express emotions and make friends? Barking?

2016-09-16 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Of course trees and the biological organisms [and physico-chemical realm] communicate with each other; and can learn and can store and transmit information. They are, after all, operating within the triadic Sign and within the three Categories. The notion of "Mind' and its operation in ALL

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Do trees talk to each other? Express emotions and make friends? Barking?

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen C. Rose
CORRECTED: I think the underlying question is whether matter is all there is to anything. I think there is more than matter. So while I have no idea how far your idea goes--trees are after all unable to move any distance and so forth. But As a general proposition it seems to me probable that we

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Do trees talk to each other? Express emotions and make friends? Barking?

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I think the underlying question if whether matter is all there is to anything. I think there is more than matter. So while I have no idea how far your idea goes--trees are after all unable to move any distance and so forth. But As a general proposition it seems to me probable that we cannot see

[PEIRCE-L] Do trees talk to each other? Express emotions and make friends? Barking?

2016-09-16 Thread Charles Pyle
There's increasing evidence to show that trees are able to communicate with each other. More than that, trees can learn. If that's true — and my experience as a forester convinces me it is — then they must be able to store and transmit information. And scientists are beginning to ask: is it