LAT: Pentagon Corruption almost Tammany in its ripeness

2004-05-02 Thread Michael Pollak
[Hey, we won the war!  Isn't it in our interests that [Americans like my
friends get the contract instead of stinking Europeans!  So what if US
forces die in the short term for lack of good communications.  I'm talking
long term.]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-na-iraqphones29apr29,1,3312797.story?coll=la-home-headlines

   Contract Causes Inquiry at Pentagon
   By T. Christian Miller, Times Staff Writer

   WASHINGTON -- A senior Defense Department official is under
   investigation by the Pentagon inspector general for allegations that
   he attempted to alter a contract proposal in Iraq to benefit a mobile
   phone consortium that includes friends and colleagues, according to
   documents obtained by The Times and sources with direct knowledge of
   the process.

   John A. Shaw, 64, the deputy undersecretary for international
   technology security, sought to transform a relatively minor police and
   fire communications proposal into a contract allowing the creation of
   an Iraq-wide commercial cellular network that could generate hundreds
   of millions of dollars in revenue per year, the sources said.

   Shaw brought pressure on
   officials at the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad
   to change the contract language and grant the consortium a
   noncompetitive bid, according to the sources.

   The consortium, under the guidance of a firm owned by Alaskan natives,
   consisted of an Irish telecommunications entrepreneur, former
   officials in the first Bush administration and such leading
   telecommunications companies as Lucent and Qualcomm, according to
   sources and consortium members.

   Shaw's efforts resulted in a dispute at the Coalition Provisional
   Authority that has delayed the contract, depriving U.S. military
   officials and Iraqi police officers, firefighters, ambulance drivers
   and border guards of a joint communications system.

   That has angered top U.S. officials and members of the U.S.-led
   authority governing Iraq, who say the deaths of many Americans and
   Iraqis might have been prevented with better communications.
   In interviews, Shaw said he had a long-standing personal relationship
   with at least one member of the consortium, but had no financial ties
   or agreement with the consortium for future employment. One other
   member of the consortium's board of directors is under contract with
   his office as a researcher.

   Shaw said he was trying to help the group because it could quickly
   install the police and fire communications system, and because the
   group was using a U.S.-based cellphone technology called CDMA that had
   lost out in what he called a rigged competition last year for
   commercial licenses in Iraq. Three companies using European-based
   technology won contracts.

   Additionally, Shaw said that he had been contacted by Rep. Darrell E.
   Issa, a Republican whose San Diego County district was packed with
   Qualcomm employees, and the office of Republican Sen. Conrad R. Burns
   of Montana, the head of the Commerce Committee's communications
   subcommittee, urging him to ensure that U.S. technology was allowed to
   compete for cellular phone contracts in Iraq. Issa confirmed they he
   had contacted Shaw on the issue. Burns' office did not respond to
   inquiries.

   CDMA, which was developed by Qualcomm, is used in the United States
   and some countries in Asia. Its rival, a standard developed by
   Europeans called GSM, is used in the U.S., Europe and the Middle East.
   Hey, we won the war, Shaw said in an interview. Is it not in our
   interests to have the most advanced system that we possibly can that
   can then become the dominant standard in the region?

   The Pentagon's Defense Criminal Investigative Services, a unit of the
   inspector general, began its investigation after two senior officials
   with the U.S.-led coalition authority reported that Shaw had demanded
   that they make the changes to the contract. They refused. Daniel

   Sudnick, who was the senior advisor to Iraq's minister of
   communications, the highest-ranking American in the ministry, and
   Bonnie Carroll, a chief deputy, resigned this month.

   A Pentagon spokeswoman said the inspector general was unable to
   discuss this matter at this time.

   Carroll declined comment Wednesday. Sudnick issued a statement denying
   Shaw's charges of corruption in the original cellular license award
   that he helped to oversee.

   Together with my team, we were singularly instrumental in putting
   modern communications in place that never existed in Iraq before,
   Sudnick said. No one, doing it properly and carefully, and avoiding
   the misuse of taxpayers' dollars, could have done it any faster.

   The inquiry into Shaw's actions is believed to be the first for a
   senior Pentagon official in connection with the massive $18.4-billion
   package funded by U.S. taxpayers to help rebuild Iraq.
   According

France: frontiers of corruption

2003-11-12 Thread Eubulides
Gigantic sleaze scandal winds up as former Elf oil chiefs are jailed

Trial for huge kickbacks by publicly owned firm reveals years of
corruption at top of French state

Jon Henley in Paris
Thursday November 13, 2003
The Guardian

France's mammoth Elf corruption case, probably the biggest political and
corporate sleaze scandal to hit a western democracy since the second world
war, drew to a close yesterday as three key former executives of the oil
giant were jailed for up to five years.

Elf's former chairman, Loik Le Floch-Prigent, 60, was sentenced to five
years in jail and fined 375,000 (260,724); his principal bag-man, the
former director Alfred Sirven, was given the same prison term and ordered
to pay 1m. The company's Mr Africa, Andr Tarallo, was jailed for four
years and fined 2m.

The judge, Michel Desplan, said Le Floch bore the primary responsibility
for the Elf affair and was personally behind a majority of the
misappropriations. To Sirven, he said: All this would not have happened
without Le Floch, but it could not have existed without your help.

The three were among 37 defendants on trial for illegally siphoning off an
extraordinary 350m of the then state-owned company's funds, from 1989 to
1993, while Le Floch was chairman. The never-ending stream of cash was
used to buy political favours at home and abroad, and to fund some
extravagant lifestyles.

But the four-month trial, which had France riveted with its tales of
political graft and sumptuous living, was also that of a system of
state-sanctioned sleaze that flourished in France for years: successive
politicians saw the country's state-owned multinationals not just as
undercover foreign policy tools, but as a convenient source of ready cash
to keep friends happy and enemies quiet.

Le Floch, whose lawyer said yesterday his client would not be appealing to
the court, insisted throughout his trial that he was in daily contact
with the Elyse palace, and that all the presidents of France had known
of, and condoned, the company's illicit dealings.

Elf, now privatised and part of the Total group, paid at the very least
5m a year to all of the main French political parties to buy their
support, Le Floch told the court at one stage. Most of the money went to
the centre-right RPR party founded by the present president, Jacques
Chirac, until the socialist Franois Mitterrand, soon after his
presidential election in 1982, demanded that the spoils be evenly spread

In their 1,045-page indictment and a further 44,000 pages of documents,
the investigating magistrates described in detail a large number of
operations carried out on the margins of normal functioning of the group's
structures, and destined... to collect assets off the books.

In addition to jail terms totalling 60 years, the public prosecutors
sought a record 34.5m in fines against the 37 defendants, who included
business associates of the company and executives' relatives accused of
having benefited from illegal largesse.

Among those sentenced yesterday was Le Floch's former wife, Fatima Belaid,
found guilty of receiving 4.6m from Elf in exchange for her silence over
the company's underhand dealings after the couple agreed to divorce. She
was sentenced to three years in prison, of which two were suspended, and
fined 1m.

Many of the missing millions were paid out in illegal royalties to
various African leaders and their families.

Tarallo told the court in June that annual cash transfers totalling about
10m were made to Omar Bongo, Gabon's president, while other huge sums
were paid to leaders in Angola, Cameroon and Congo-Brazzaville. The
multi-million dollar payments were partly aimed at guaranteeing that it
was Elf and not US or British firms that pumped the oil, but also to
ensure the African leaders' continued allegiance to France. In Gabon, Elf
was a veritable state within a state. France accounts for three-quarters
of foreign investment in Gabon, and Gabon sometimes provided 75% of Elf's
profits. In return for protection and sweeteners from Elf's coffers,
France used the state as a base for military and espionage activities in
west Africa.

Illegal commissions were also paid to businessmen and third-party
associates to smooth Elf's business dealings closer to home: about 30m
was paid out under the counter in the company's 1992 acquisition of the
Leuna refinery in east Germany.

Among those sentenced yesterday were Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born British
billionaire, who was fined 2m over a 1992 transaction with Elf, and
Dieter Holzer, a German businessman, who was accused of taking kickbacks
on the Leuna deal, and given 15 months in jail and a fine of 1.5m.

But the bulk of yesterday's convictions focused on the way Elf's senior
executives shamelessly enriched themselves. Michel Desplan, the judge,
told Le Floch he was the source of most of the misappropriations...
carried out to enrich yourself personally.

Le Floch was found guilty of personally misappropriating 180m, while
Sirven

Lakoff was More on anti-corruption

2003-11-04 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Pen 'Ellers,
Thanks Joanna for forwarding Lakoff's interview.

I've enjoyed reading Lakoff, especially on philosophy and mathematics.
Lakoff argues for 'embodiment' which I think helps to clarify the many muddy
arguments about cognition and dissipate the mind duality that permeates the
culture in the developed countries.  Additionally, Lakoff was a student of
Chomsky's and participated in the so-called language wars and broke with
Chomsky over the issue of inheriting a grammar structure in the brain.  So
Lakoff to my way of understanding things, continues a solid left historical
perspective on thought.

Given that, Lakoff's approach to moral systems seems to me to have some
problems.  First is interpretation of framing to use in language to bind a
social community.  It seems to me not so obvious as Lakoff makes his system
seem that framing can be used to build a left movement.  What seems to me to
be missing is a way to map a moral system so we can build with it.  My first
guess about moral systems is that they reflect values or the structure of
emotion that binds cortex structures together.  So if we talk about moral
systems we have to really have a grasp of emotional structure as well as the
language structures of metaphor.

Secondly while Lakoff has powerful things to say about metaphor, and
extremely useful, it seems to me that the structure of using that is not
well addressed.  What I imagine in this case is that an architecture of
moral systems is possible to consider.  This sort of reasoning on my part
looks rather like the historical processes that religions try to accomplish.
Essentially how to construct societies on the larger and larger scale where
everyone can be together in very large units.  To give an example if one
considers the bible as an example, the prohibitions against killing probably
reflected the conflict structure of groups being modified for a larger
tribal structure than nomadic peoples previously could not have considered.
In other words the emotion structure that previously led to groups killing
individuals was being modified to adapt to a much larger social structure.

Emotion structure underlies 'moral' systems.  Moral systems as I think
Lakoff rightly observes are metaphorical, i.e. neural network like, but
without an adequate theory of value (emotion structure) using just metaphor
is to me a laborious endeavor to track down how words are currently being
used.  This neglects the change that happens in word usage as well.  If one
incorporates emotion structure into a metaphorical system I think one could
look at that as well as a labor process.  So that to take the metaphor of
architecture a step further, each person constantly helps build an overall
'moral' system of the whole society.  So that we might consider how to
automate parts of the architecture to increase productivity.
thanks,
Doyle


Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Devine, James
I don't feel the need to be a dictionary every time discussion of terms
comes up. ...
 
no, you don't have to provide definitions all the time. But if you reject some 
definition of some word (e.g., corruption) it seems that you have some alternative 
definition in mind, which you should share with us, at least if you want to have a 
serious discussion of the issues. Alternatively, you shouldn't use the word in 
question in any kind of serious conversation.
 
BTW, I reject the Platonic view that definitions correspond to ideal forms that exist 
outside of our consciousness of them, so that perceived corruption (etc.) represents 
merely phenomenal forms of the ideal. Rather, any definition is provisional, used to 
clarify thought, organize empirical investigation, provide greater understanding, etc. 
concerning the perceived empirical world. (Similarly, all scientific conclusions are 
really working hypotheses.) No definition is hard and fast. Thus, the rejection of a 
definition because it's not hard and fast seems a rejection of definitions in general.
JD

 




Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Michael Perelman
I have no idea how to define corruption.  Corporate campaign contributions
seem corrupt to me, but not according to American standards.  Appointing
right-wing hacks to the courts and other political positions since
corrupt.  Giving away a public resources seem corrupt.  Clinton using his
power of office to gain sexual favors change corrupt; professors are not
immune from such corruption.  To others, violations of biblical law seem
corrupt.  In short, a concept like this defies definition.



--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-03 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Judge John T. Noonan has a big and interesting book on
the history of corruption, Bribery (1984), really a
fascinating read. Standards definitely evolve. In the
early common law, it was normal for judges to take
gifts from litigants. By the time of Francis Bacon,
impeached for corruption from the post of Lord
Chancellor (Chief Justice in the Court of Equity) in
around 1620, the argument that the gifts did not
influence the decision was not accepted in England.
Here is a link to a short paper that providesa
lighting survey by a lawyer who has to deal with this
stuff every day

http://www.transparency.ca/Readings/TI-G02.pdf

--- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I have no idea how to define corruption.  Corporate
 campaign contributions
 seem corrupt to me, but not according to American
 standards.  Appointing
 right-wing hacks to the courts and other political
 positions since
 corrupt.  Giving away a public resources seem
 corrupt.  Clinton using his
 power of office to gain sexual favors change
 corrupt; professors are not
 immune from such corruption.  To others, violations
 of biblical law seem
 corrupt.  In short, a concept like this defies
 definition.



 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929

 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 In short, a concept like this defies definition.

I don't think that's true, Marx would say, definitions of corruption are
historically relative. But in the foundations of bourgeois society and moral
thinking, corruption just means unfair competition, and this is normally
legally defined. But since it is impossible to provide a complete legal
definition, since the dimensions of competition are always changing, the
concept always remains a little vague, there is a grey area. And so for
example we could dispute about the legality and morality of the business
annexation of Iraq - when is expropriation justified, or not ? How does this
fit into moral rationality ? The real point is that the market provides no
morality of its own, except what is technically necessary to conclude a
market transaction, and that competition, rooted in conflicts over private
property, itself gives rise to vagueness.

J.


Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message -
From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Anti-corruption information at http://www.nobribes.org/ and
 www.transparency.org . Transparency International has branches in
several
 countries.

 For the Global Corruption Report 2003, see
 http://www.globalcorruptionreport.org/download.shtml




Some of the analytical methods in these reports point precisely to the
weakness of the definition of corruption given earlier.

*Corruption is defined as the abuse of public power for private gain.*

Rather than simply contest the definition, I'll relay a story and try to
keep it short.

A couple of years ago I was at a debate between a former Canadian MP, then
working at the Canadian Consulate in Seattle, and a friend as well as one
of those eminently replaceable PR people from the Chamber of Commerce.

During the Q  A the guy from Canada told how -I'm paraphrasing and
compressing, in Canada, he was given $25,000 to run his election campaign,
the reporting requirements and the like and if I spent one dollar over
that amount I would be thrown in jail for [X] years. By this standard your
American system is totally corrupt. He then went into a not too short
excursus on the problems of political patronage as they relate to trade
issues.

Now, given the above definition, nothing US elected representatives do is
considered corruption precisely because they are not abusing public office
for private gain. They are simply using it to grant advantages to their
campaign contributors. Sure it lines the coffers of the two parties, which
after all, are caught up in the accumulation game themselves. Yet the
system of political patronage in the US is not that different from the
corruption many see in African states. Indeed one could make the argument
that what has gone on in Africa for the last 50 years is not much
different from the settling of the US in the nineteenth century. And yet
the US scores rather well compared to say, Nigeria on the corruption
index.

Most US citizens casually perusing left-liberal muckraking journalism on
campaign contributions etc. have no problem seeing the current system in
place as corrupt, yet their intuitions, which I have enormous sympathies
with, are not captured in the above definition precisely because those in
power have legalized the ever evolving norms of patronage as the political
economy changes and grows.

 Hence the above definition is too thin precisely because it creates a
blind spot regarding how the corruption got legitimated -cumulative
causation and all that. I take the current structuring of patronage as
just so much of a 'objectified corruption' as many commonly refer to
capital as 'objectified labor' or 'dead labor.' Yet the moment we let the
above definition serve as the baseline norm from which many other forms of
corruption are excluded by definition, we concede too much to the
political parties that are ruining governments across the planet. A
perfect example is the SC passing Buckley v. Valeo. Am I the only one to
see the corrupt conflict of interests involved in having Republican and
Democrat judges legitimize the idea of money as speech which just so
happens to ensure an enormous stream of cash for the parties of which they
are members? I don't think so and neither do all the solid people pushing
for substantive campaign finance reform, yet the above definition kind of
pre-empts their ability to call the current system corrupt.

If we say that the political process by which property rights are
constructed and delegated to agents in the economy is not corrupt
precisely because those who hold office have legalized the process whereby
money is exchanged in order to secure legislation favorable to some
interests vis a vis other interests by any definition of corruption
[attuned to historical facts as much as the analytical coherence of our
definition etc.] we care to articulate, then what is the normative basis
from which we can declare that capitalist systems of property and contract
are violative of the norms of democratic liberalism
itself -freedom/justice etc.?

Clearly the definition of corruption above attempts to define away the
historical process whereby capitalist property rights became
institutionalized even as we see how corruption today with the above
definition, in many cases, bears an uncanny resemblance to the manner in
which so-called primitive accumulation many centuries ago brought forth
capitalism as we know it today.

Usual caveats,

Ian


Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
These days the bourgeoisie likes to plunder with love. Privacy ? We will
provide it for the working class. Lovers ? We will provide them for the
working class. Jobs ? We will provide them for the working class ? Human
decency ? We will provide it for the working class. The bourgeois are
bourgeois, for the benefit of the working class. But you must remember,
there is always a sackrifice to be made, and you must remember that Jesus
Christ died on the cross for all our sins. And thus the blood shed in our
humanitarian effort to integrate people into a peaceful market is not in
vain, and history shall absolve us after we are dead.

Jurriaan


Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Devine, James
Right: definitions -- such as that of corruption -- are historically relative. 
Corruption is defined _relative to_ bourgeois right, which is something that 
changes over time. It involves breaking the rules of the capitalist game. Though the 
main rules are pretty much the same, the details differ between places and times. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




 -Original Message-
 From: Jurriaan Bendien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The concept of corruption
 
 
  In short, a concept like this defies definition.
 
 I don't think that's true, Marx would say, definitions of 
 corruption are
 historically relative. But in the foundations of bourgeois 
 society and moral
 thinking, corruption just means unfair competition, and this 
 is normally
 legally defined. But since it is impossible to provide a 
 complete legal
 definition, since the dimensions of competition are always 
 changing, the
 concept always remains a little vague, there is a grey area. 
 And so for
 example we could dispute about the legality and morality of 
 the business
 annexation of Iraq - when is expropriation justified, or not 
 ? How does this
 fit into moral rationality ? The real point is that the 
 market provides no
 morality of its own, except what is technically necessary to 
 conclude a
 market transaction, and that competition, rooted in conflicts 
 over private
 property, itself gives rise to vagueness.
 
 J.
 



Anti-corruption - addition

2003-11-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I wrote:

But you must remember, there is always a sackrifice to be made, and you
must remember that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all our sins.

I should perhaps note, that the Pound of Flesh theorem mentioned by
Shakespeare in The Merchant of Venice is not appropriate here, we must
definitely talk about Christian Sacrifice, because the Pound of Flesh
theorem is anti-semitic, and the suffering Lord Jesus is a universal symbol
of good intentions rooted in the ultimate premise of loving your enemy.

My fellow Americans, if the market does not provide morality of its own,
private expropriation must be balanced by public sacrifice, otherwise we
cannot reconcile our consolidated accounts. You must give, so that I may
receive, and you must BELIEVE that this generous giving WILL cause you to
receive the bountiful resources God has created through your generous love -
in time, perhaps not immediately, but in the future. Knock, and the door
shall open. The Kingdom of Heaven shall be opened to you, if you believe in
the Good Lord Jesus who suffering was not in vain, and who provides a
shining light, a radiant light, which illuminates the justice of
expropriation and the justice of sacrifice, showing us, that there is a
deeper meaning in history, which you young fellows cannot yet understand,
but in time, you will understand, when you are older. And in the meantime,
today, right now, we must fight the terrorists in the name of Our Lord
Jesus, because the terrorists could attack any minute, they could strike
anywhere, and they could disturb the market, and if they disturb the market,
people will die because of that, and we cannot allow that to happen. We see
already the great dangers in Iraq when the market is disturbed, these people
have terrible problems. We must protect the market and we must protect the
values of this great nation. And because we are inspired, we are fullfilled
with the love of Jesus Christ, we will win, because we are invincible.

And thus if some Chinese politicians resist our attempt to improve the
global economy, and if Iraqi's resist our attempt to improve their country
and enjoy all the bountiful resources that everybody has here in America, at
great expense to Americans, then we shall persuade them, and we shall
convince them, that they should not listen to misleaders and terrorists. And
we are not distracted in our goal of human liberation, and we are not
distracted by sophist arguments about national sovereignity, because the
Human Race is One, and it belongs in One Great Marketplace, One Great
Unionisation of mankind, One Great Globalisation and we shall get there.

Okay, maybe we find that we must administer another country, because
competent people are not available yet, maybe we have to create protected
zones to protect the less fortunate citizens in our society, as well as
free-trade zones where good, strong, healthy Americans can compete, and take
on the challenges of modern business. We do so with Christian Compassion.
Maybe we have to operate different currencies in one country, so that oil
profits are protected from abuse from corrupt individuals, because as you
know, not all people will the good, and we must live with the fact that
there are evil forces at work in the world, satanic forces which seek to
undermine our efforts to establish peace and a stable investment climate.
But as we unify the human race through One Free Market, all these minor
problems WILL be resolved, and we shall create prosperity for ALL, and
redeem ALL the human errors of the past, turning all negatives into
positives.

We realise full well, that errors can and will be made, but we must always
focus back on the goal, the aim of the whole enterprise. We must ask
ourselves, why are we in politics ? and remember our principles.  And if
we encounter adversities, problems, difficulties, then we must have faith,
we must allow ourselves to be guided by Jesus Christ, our belief in God must
be the foundation of our market activities and our private initiative which
reaps the rewards of that initiative. And as regards those who seek to smear
our good intentions, we will not be impressed by them, and we will expose
them, and we will hunt them out, root them out, and bring them to justice.

But the practical proof of our policy WILL convince people, and if it does
not seem to convince sufficiently today, we must convince people that it
WILL work in the future, and we must engender hope in the future, faith in
the future, love for humanity, a positive view, market confidence, whereas
our opponents are merely negative losers. We must take on this challenge
like real men, and steel ourselves for the battles which lie ahead of us.
And we must have respect for our brave soldiers who defend our freedoms in
foreign lands, and protect us from terrorist Iraqi children. We do not know
yet when the war will be over, we do not know yet when we will win, but we
know that, with the love of Jesus Christ, we are invincible 

Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Devine, James
And yet the US scores rather well compared to say, Nigeria on the corruption
index...

I agree that there's no way one could create a corruption index. It can't be 
quantified.

 Yet the moment we let the
above definition serve as the baseline norm ...

I didn't know that the discussion was normative in focus. As I noted, corruption is 
defined 
relative to bourgeois right, which is itself corrupt.

Jim 



Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message -
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]



And yet the US scores rather well compared to say, Nigeria on the
corruption
index...

I agree that there's no way one could create a corruption index. It
can't be quantified.

 Yet the moment we let the
above definition serve as the baseline norm ...

I didn't know that the discussion was normative in focus. As I noted,
corruption is defined
relative to bourgeois right, which is itself corrupt.

Jim


All your response does is to push the baseline norm issue 'back' one step.
Corruption as a sociological term is irreducibly normative.

All hail the hermeneutic circle :-

Ian


Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 I agree that there's no way one could create a corruption index. It
 can't be quantified.

You mean it is an externality cost and we cannot establish a price for it ?
Then of course it must be corruption !

A respected Jungian psychotherapist once told me that Marx was rubbish and I
should drop that for my mental health's sake. It occurred to me that of
course Marx had to be rubbish, because Marx operates with a concept of
economic value which cannot be quantified. Or so they say.

J.


Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Devine, James
The physics formula F = M.a is circular, because each term is defined by the other 
two. The concept of a point in geometry is also circular. These examples (and many 
others) suggest that there is nothing wrong with circular definitions, as long as one 
is clear about the nature of that circularity. 

of course, corruption is normative in the sense that it violates (official) 
bourgeois norms. But I didn't know that _pen-l's_ discussion was normative, i.e., that 
someone was proposing that corruption was _the_ problem to be opposed or something 
like that. 


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 And yet the US scores rather well compared to say, Nigeria on the
 corruption
 index...
 
 I agree that there's no way one could create a corruption index. It
 can't be quantified.
 
  Yet the moment we let the
 above definition serve as the baseline norm ...
 
 I didn't know that the discussion was normative in focus. As I noted,
 corruption is defined
 relative to bourgeois right, which is itself corrupt.
 
 Jim
 
 
 All your response does is to push the baseline norm issue 
 'back' one step.
 Corruption as a sociological term is irreducibly normative.
 
 All hail the hermeneutic circle :-
 
 Ian
 



Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Isn't this thread getting corrupted?
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Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
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Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Eubulides
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The physics formula F = M.a is circular, because each term is defined by
the other two. The concept of a point in geometry is also circular.
These examples (and many others) suggest that there is nothing wrong with
circular definitions, as long as one is clear about the nature of that
circularity.

=

There are virtuous and vicious circles in philosophy of science,
epistemology etc. You are on the edge of a vicious circle regarding the
relation between corruption and bourgeois right.

Walter Gallie, anyone?





of course, corruption is normative in the sense that it violates
(official) bourgeois norms. But I didn't know that _pen-l's_ discussion
was normative, i.e., that someone was proposing that corruption was _the_
problem to be opposed or something like that.

=

The discussion was normative from the get go even as no one suggested that
corruption was *the* problem.

I'm done.

Ian


Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 of inquiry situated in a
society based on competition for private property and class exploitation,
which cannot be approached in a non-partisan way.

I don't really think the dispute about corruption is about normative or
non-normative, since we cannot very well be non-normative or non-partisan,
all we can say is that we try to be objective in regard to the evidence, and
distinguish between what we aim to explain as individuals, and general
policies we might explicitly recommend. Modern bourgeois society, sinking
into corruption, seeks to challenge individuals to moral integrity, but in
so doing, it is forgotten that no final and consistent reconciliation
between the individual and the community can be arrived at so long as
competition based on private property and class exploitation exist, i.e. so
long as the objective basis for moral behaviour does not exist. As I
mentioned before, postmodernist relativism arises precisely out of the fact
that the market is unable to reconcile individual and social responsibility,
not even the cleverest social-democratic or liberal arguments can do that,
and that is why we must resort to Jesus Christ. So the only honest thing to
do is declare your partisanship, combat corruption with personal integrity,
but have appropriate regard for the evidence pertaining to the case.

This discussion relates, incidentally, to the concept of totalitarianism,
because this concept implies that an idealist abstraction is forced on
people in reality, violently, massively and comprehensively, and to this
concept of totalitarianism, the concept of democratic pluralism is
counter-posed. But the concept of pluralism, abstracted from context, is
unable to provide any epistemic authority or adjudicate between views,
because there is no non-pluralist method by which those criteria can be
arrived at. Hence pluralism can lead to relativism which disorganises just
as much. That is all to say, that bourgeois democracy is merely the
framework within which fair competition can occur, and fair competition is
pluralistic competition. Essentially an obsession with pluralism is rooted
in the class interests of the middle class, the petty-bourgeoisie, which
feels shut out from power by the corporations and the trade unions. If trade
unions are weak, then corporations become the enemy, and democratic values
are asserted against the corporations. In which case, corruption is
anti-democratic, because for fair competition to function, personal
integrity must be maintained.

Behind all the conceptual disputes however is the material reality of the
competitive market and class society. If the market does not provide any
morality beyond the conditions required to operate a transaction, then all
morality is relative, and the only things that are not relative but
absolute, are the institutions which safeguard bourgeois private property
relations. In this sense, the Iraq war is an attempt to establish market
certainty, i.e. the certainty and security of private appropriation, even
if in the immediate present it seems to create market uncertainty.
Democracy is necessary to preserve integrity in market negotiations, but if
the assertion of democratic rights threatens bourgeois private property
relations, then it is argued democracy is either being insufficiently
pluralist, or unfair, or a hidden form of totalitarianism.

We only make progress if we extract the hidden logic behind the metaphors
that paralyse our thinking.

Jurriaan


Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread joanna bujes
Jurriaan Bendien wrote

We only make progress if we extract the hidden logic behind the metaphors
that paralyse our thinking.

Yes. True. Interestingly enough, the following was posted to LBO a few
days ago. I knew Lakoff at UC Berkeley when his star was rising. He was
doing interesting work and so was his ex wife, Robin Lakoff. There's a
lot to work through in his observations and suggestions, and I would be
interested in a discussion if anyone cares to respond.
I'm in deadline mode at work right now, which is why I haven't forwarded
this sooner. But, hell, there's always the very late evening hours...
Joanna

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From: alex lantsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:14:39 -0800
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Framing the issues: UC Berkeley professor George Lakoff
tells how conservatives use language to dominate politics
By Bonnie Azab Powell,
NewsCenter | 27 October 2003
BERKELEY With Republicans controlling the Senate, the
House, and the White House and enjoying a large margin of
victory for California Governor-elect Arnold
Schwarzenegger, it's clear that the Democratic Party is in
crisis. George Lakoff, a UC Berkeley professor of
linguistics and cognitive science, thinks he knows why.
Conservatives have spent decades defining their ideas,
carefully choosing the language with which to present them,
and building an infrastructure to communicate them, says
Lakoff.
The work has paid off: by dictating the terms of national
debate, conservatives have put progressives firmly on the
defensive.
In 2000 Lakoff and seven other faculty members from
Berkeley and UC Davis joined together to found the
Rockridge Institute, one of the only progressive think
tanks in existence in the U.S. The institute offers its
expertise and research on a nonpartisan basis to help
progressives understand how best to get their messages
across. The Richard  Rhoda Goldman Distinguished Professor
in the College of Letters  Science, Lakoff is the author
of Moral Politics: How Liberals and Conservatives Think,
first published in 1997 and reissued in 2002, as well as
several other books on how language affects our lives. He
is taking a sabbatical this year to write three books ?
none about politics ? and to work on several Rockridge
Institute research projects.
In a long conversation over coffee at the Free Speech
Movement Café, he told the NewsCenter's Bonnie Azab Powell
why the Democrats just don't get it, why Schwarzenegger
won the recall election, and why conservatives will
continue to define the issues up for debate for the
foreseeable future.
Why was the Rockridge Institute created, and how do you
define its purpose?
I got tired of cursing the newspaper every morning. I got
tired of seeing what was going wrong and not being able to
do anything about it.
The background for Rockridge is that conservatives,
especially conservative think tanks, have framed virtually
every issue from their perspective. They have put a huge
amount of money into creating the language for their
worldview and getting it out there. Progressives have done
virtually nothing. Even the new Center for American
Progress, the think tank that John Podesta [former chief of
staff for the Clinton administration] is setting up, is not
dedicated to this at all. I asked Podesta who was going to
do the Center's framing. He got a blank look, thought for a
second and then said, You! Which meant they haven't
thought about it at all. And that's the problem. Liberals
don't get it. They don't understand what it is they have to
be doing.
Rockridge's job is to reframe public debate, to create
balance from a progressive perspective. It's one thing to
analyze language and thought, it's another thing to create
it. That's what we're about. It's a matter of asking 'What
are the central ideas of progressive thought from a moral
perspective?'
How does language influence the terms of political debate?

Language always comes with what is called framing. Every
word is defined relative to a conceptual framework. If you
have something like revolt, that implies a population
that is being ruled unfairly, or assumes it is being ruled
unfairly, and that they are throwing off their rulers,
which would be considered a good thing. That's a frame.
'Conservatives understand what unites them, and they
understand how to talk about it, and they are constantly
updating their research on how best to express their
ideas.'
-George Lakoff
If you then add the word voter in front of revolt, you
get a metaphorical meaning saying that the voters are the
oppressed people, the governor is the oppressive ruler,
that they have ousted him and this is a good thing and all
things are good now. All of that comes up when you see a
headline like voter revolt ? something that most people
read and never notice. But these things can be affected by
reporters and very often, by the 

Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Eubulides
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From: joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Jurriaan Bendien wrote

 We only make progress if we extract the hidden logic behind the
metaphors
 that paralyse our thinking.
 

==

In the above, extract is a metaphor and the assertion itself relies on
space/motion as a metaphor. Surely there are *other* ways of metaphorizing
making progress.

Nothing is hidden. [Wittgenstein]


Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
In California they claim to have a handle on this problem, and ensure that
through good sexual development all abstract concepts are correctly anchored
in the brains of the individual, creating consistent behaviour in which no
corruptions or inconsistencies can occur. And then they elect Arnold
Schwarzendegger.

J.
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 From: joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  Jurriaan Bendien wrote
 
  We only make progress if we extract the hidden logic behind the
 metaphors
  that paralyse our thinking.
  

 ==

 In the above, extract is a metaphor and the assertion itself relies on
 space/motion as a metaphor. Surely there are *other* ways of metaphorizing
 making progress.

 Nothing is hidden. [Wittgenstein]





Re: More on anti-corruption

2003-11-03 Thread Mike Ballard
--- joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwarded this
article for comment:
 Jurriaan Bendien wrote

 We only make progress if we extract the hidden
 logic behind the metaphors
 that paralyse our thinking.
 
 
 Yes. True. Interestingly enough, the following was
 posted to LBO a few
 days ago. I knew Lakoff at UC Berkeley when his star
 was rising. He was
 doing interesting work and so was his ex wife, Robin
 Lakoff. There's a
 lot to work through in his observations and
 suggestions, and I would be
 interested in a discussion if anyone cares to
 respond.

 I'm in deadline mode at work right now, which is why
 I haven't forwarded
 this sooner. But, hell, there's always the very late
 evening hours...

 Joanna


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 From: alex lantsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Framing the issues: UC Berkeley professor George
 Lakoff
 tells how conservatives use language to dominate
 politics

Conservatives use money to buy mouthpieces to set the
political agenda.  Whoever sets the agenda of a
meeting can dominate the debate.  This is something
which most leftists should have digested by this day
and age.


 By Bonnie Azab Powell,
 Conservatives have spent decades defining their
 ideas,
 carefully choosing the language with which to
 present them,
 and building an infrastructure to communicate them,
 says
 Lakoff.

They hire a out a stable of intellectuals who then
churn out appropriately worded documents which are
given voice through their extensive ties to media
conglomerates which, in turn, want to make money by
selling ads to businesses.  They won't be selling many
ads to businesses if the ideas which they promote
aren't pro-business.


 The work has paid off: by dictating the terms of
 national
 debate, conservatives have put progressives firmly
 on the
 defensive.

This has a lot to do with the fact that most
'progressives' do not understand nor do they promote a
critique of Capital.  The conservatives set the
political agenda (how best to run our country) and
the 'progressives' respond to it in an equally
pro-business way.

snip..

Lakoff was quoted saying:
 The background for Rockridge is that conservatives,
 especially conservative think tanks, have framed
 virtually
 every issue from their perspective. They have put a
 huge
 amount of money into creating the language for
 their
 worldview and getting it out there.


Stick a pin there.  The conservatives have a lot of
money.  They put their money where their mouths are.
They have an overwhelmingly loud voice as a result.


Progressives
 have done
 virtually nothing. Even the new Center for American
 Progress, the think tank that John Podesta [former
 chief of
 staff for the Clinton administration] is setting
 up, is not
 dedicated to this at all. I asked Podesta who was
 going to
 do the Center's framing. He got a blank look,
 thought for a
 second and then said, You! Which meant they
 haven't
 thought about it at all. And that's the problem.
 Liberals
 don't get it. They don't understand what it is they
 have to
 be doing.

The base of the left no longer understands the basic
critique of the wages system to wit: the workers
create all social wealth not found in Nature.  The
workers get only a small share of the wealth they
create because the legal structures of the bourgeois
State enforce a kind of legalized robbery from them.
This robbery has become the norm. To go outside this
norm (i.e. to use the State to tax the rich and funnel
the money they've stolen back to the poor via
programs) is to be labled silly or unrealistic by your
average Joe on the street, who after all is said and
done, aspires to one day be rich himself (women
included of course).

So, the conservatives set the political agenda.  They
appear more 'realistic' than the liberals.  They are
more realistic because they are not perceived as being
namby-pamby.  They let things work as they are
supposed to (naturally, according to human nature)
rewarding the most daring of the risk takers (isn't
Bill Gates great!) with the greatest share of the
wealth created by their employed wage-slaves.
Liberals don't want to face up to this fact because
they either fear the consequences of abolishing the
wage system (Stalin tried that--well maybe).

So, they remain forever as the image of those who
would tax *US* and make *US* ever poorer and throw
our tax money at trying to mollie-coddle the poor
(who are really just lazy).


 Rockridge's job is to reframe public debate, to
 create
 balance from a progressive perspective. It's one
 thing to
 analyze language and thought, it's another thing to
 create
 it. That's what we're about. It's a matter of
 asking 'What
 are the central ideas of progressive thought from a
 moral
 perspective?'

Stick another pin there.  The left needs to see that
the right appeals to self-interest both perceived and
real.  It should be fairly easy to turn the tables on
the conservatives as the wages system is not in the
self-interest of 

The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Corruption is defined as the abuse of public power for private gain.
Alexander Sack, the author and legal scholar of the doctrine of odious
debts, included in his definition of odious debts, loans incurred by
members of the government or by persons or groups associated with the
government to serve interests manifestly personal -- interests that are
unrelated to the interests of the State.
Source:
http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=subcontentAreaID=163


Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread Eubulides
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From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Corruption is defined as the abuse of public power for private gain.

===

This is way too thin a definition of corruption. It concedes too much to
methodological individualism.


Ian







 Alexander Sack, the author and legal scholar of the doctrine of odious
 debts, included in his definition of odious debts, loans incurred by
 members of the government or by persons or groups associated with the
 government to serve interests manifestly personal -- interests that are
 unrelated to the interests of the State.
 Source:

http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=subcontentAreaID=163



Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread joanna bujes



Corruption is defined as the abuse of public power for private gain.


===

This is way too thin a definition of corruption. It concedes too much to
methodological individualism.
Ian

The definition seems pretty good to me. What's methodological
individualism?
Joanna










Alexander Sack, the author and legal scholar of the doctrine of odious
debts, included in his definition of odious debts, loans incurred by
members of the government or by persons or groups associated with the
government to serve interests manifestly personal -- interests that are
unrelated to the interests of the State.
Source:


http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=subcontentAreaID=163








Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread Eubulides
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From: joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The concept of corruption


 
 
 
 Corruption is defined as the abuse of public power for private gain.

snip

 The definition seems pretty good to me. What's methodological
 individualism?

 Joanna

==

It makes all politics and commerce corrupt by definition. It also ignores
the problematzing of the public-private distinction.

Who gets to decide what 'abuse of power' means?

http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Scie/ScieFran.htm


Ian


Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread Devine, James
maybe we should have a rule: no-one is allowed to reject a definition unless they can 
propose a better one. (Or they must defend the idea that definitions never facilitate 
thought.) 
 
to my mind, if corruption is defined within the context of capitalism (i.e., taking 
capitalist property norms as given, unquestioned), the abuse of public power for 
private gain makes sense. Corruption would be something that government (i.e., 
public) employees may or may not be involved in, usually in conjunction with 
business. Normal deals between businesses (i.e., commerce) aren't corrupt in this 
view because they respect capitalist norms of property. Politics that fits with 
preserving capitalist property-rights would also not be corrupt. So not all commerce 
and politics would be corrupt. 
 
If we don't take capitalist norms for granted, then the _whole system_ is corrupt in 
that it involves the state enforcement of capitalist exploitation (which benefits 
private interests). In that case, conventionally-defined corruption could actually 
be a strike against the system, undermining its stability. Usually not, though. 
Corrupt politicians just want to _join_ the capitalist class. 

Jim

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 Corruption is defined as the abuse of public power for private gain.

snip

 The definition seems pretty good to me. What's methodological
 individualism?

 Joanna

==

It makes all politics and commerce corrupt by definition. It also ignores
the problematzing of the public-private distinction.

Who gets to decide what 'abuse of power' means?






Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread andie nachgeborenen
There are at least two distinct senses of the term
methodological individualism:

(1) All social phenomena can be explained in terms of
individual persons and their states without reference
to social facts or states (the nonreductive sense),
and

(2) All social phenomena can be explained _only_ in
terms of individual persons and their states without
reference to social facts or states (the reductive
sense), i.e., there are no explanatory social facts or
properties.

The first view is probabaly false and probaly
incoherent because the mental states of individuals
are social states at least in part. But it's a
harmless view if it is taken to say there is also
social analysis. The second view is not only false and
meaningless, but pernicious, and incompatible with
historical materialism.

I wrote a paper on this a decade ago, Metaphysical
Individualism and Functional Explanation, Phil Science
(1993).

jks

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  Corruption is defined as the abuse of public
 power for private gain.

 snip

  The definition seems pretty good to me. What's
 methodological
  individualism?
 
  Joanna

 ==

 It makes all politics and commerce corrupt by
 definition. It also ignores
 the problematzing of the public-private distinction.

 Who gets to decide what 'abuse of power' means?

 http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Scie/ScieFran.htm


 Ian


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Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread joanna bujes
well, ok. but I still don't get how the definition earns this critique.

Joanna

andie nachgeborenen wrote:

There are at least two distinct senses of the term
methodological individualism:
(1) All social phenomena can be explained in terms of
individual persons and their states without reference
to social facts or states (the nonreductive sense),
and
(2) All social phenomena can be explained _only_ in
terms of individual persons and their states without
reference to social facts or states (the reductive
sense), i.e., there are no explanatory social facts or
properties.
The first view is probabaly false and probaly
incoherent because the mental states of individuals
are social states at least in part. But it's a
harmless view if it is taken to say there is also
social analysis. The second view is not only false and
meaningless, but pernicious, and incompatible with
historical materialism.
I wrote a paper on this a decade ago, Metaphysical
Individualism and Functional Explanation, Phil Science
(1993).
jks

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Corruption is defined as the abuse of public


power for private gain.

snip



The definition seems pretty good to me. What's


methodological


individualism?

Joanna


==

It makes all politics and commerce corrupt by
definition. It also ignores
the problematzing of the public-private distinction.
Who gets to decide what 'abuse of power' means?

http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Scie/ScieFran.htm

Ian




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Re: The concept of corruption

2003-11-02 Thread Eubulides
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From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 If we don't take capitalist norms for granted, then the _whole system_
is corrupt in that it involves the state enforcement of capitalist
exploitation (which benefits private interests). In that case,
conventionally-defined corruption could actually be a strike against the
system, undermining its stability. Usually not, though. Corrupt
politicians just want to _join_ the capitalist class.

 Jim




This, of course is precisely what a different definition of corruption
would seek to show. I won't even go into the internal problems of the
conventional definition provided earlier as that would take a monograph.

Corruption is polysemous and surely socialists have a definition/paradigm
of analysis of corruption that asserts  *the whole system* is corrupt. The
question is whether that definition is non-defeasible, as your use of
... intimates.

I don't feel the need to be a dictionary every time discussion of terms
comes up. After all, pretty much the same charge you leveled at the
beginning of your post is leveled against socialists all the time.


Ian


More on anti-corruption

2003-11-02 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
The British Statistical Office estimated that fraud accounted for maybe 11
billion British pounds of foreign trade and up to 0.2 percent of GDP. See:
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/economic_trends/ETAug03Ruffles.pdf

In the industrialised countries, annual crime victim rates are from one in
three victims to one in six victims. In Eastern Europe, the incidence of car
theft is especially high. In the Third World, one in five people annually
are said to be victims of corruption, and the other big sources of crime are
consumer fraud and thefts from cars.

For some fraud statistics, see http://www.epaynews.com/statistics/fraud.html

Anti-corruption information at http://www.nobribes.org/ and
www.transparency.org . Transparency International has branches in several
countries.

For the Global Corruption Report 2003, see
http://www.globalcorruptionreport.org/download.shtml

For statistics on world crime, see
http://www.uncjin.org/Statistics/statistics.html and
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/crime_cicp_surveys.html

A table showing total recorded crime per 100,000 inhabitants per country is
shown at http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/sixthsurvey/TotalRecordedCrime.pdf

The UN anti-corruption treaty text, adopted by consensus but yet to be
ratified, spells out measures to prevent corruption in the public and
private sectors and requires governments to cooperate in the investigations
and prosecutions of offenders. It establishes a commitment to criminalize
bribery, embezzlement, and money laundering, and requires that governments
take action in a number of areas - for example in public procurement, public
financial management, and in regulating their public officials. Politicians
and political parties must declare openly how they finance their election
campaigns, and countries must return assets obtained through corruption to
the country from where they were stolen. Private-sector bribery is not a
crime in the United States. We get at it in other ways, said a U.S.
official. This is an area quite distant from determining what is proper
conduct in the public sector. It would be intruding into purely
private-sector conduct. But Jeremy Pope, executive director of Berlin-based
Transparency International, argues that business corruption undermines
public confidence in the private sector and can have serious economic and
political consequences. Source:
http://forums.transnationale.org/viewtopic.php?t=1056view=next The new
Treaty text complements another landmark treaty, the United Nations
Convention against Transnational Organized Crime, which entered into force
Sept. 29 and requires ratifying countries to cooperate with each other in
combatting money laundering, organized crime and human trafficking.

According to a 1998 UN declaration, corruption  bribery was defined as a)
The offer, promise or giving of any payment, gift or other advantage,
directly or indirectly, by any private or public corporation, including a
transnational corporation, or individual from a State to any public official
or elected representative of another country as undue consideration for
performing or refraining from the performance of that official's or
representative's duties in connection with an international commercial
transaction; (b) The soliciting, demanding, accepting or receiving, directly
or indirectly, by any public official or elected representative of a State
from any private or public corporation, including a transnational
corporation, or individual from another country of any payment, gift or
other advantage, as undue consideration for performing or refraining from
the performance of that official's or representative's duties in connection
with an international commercial transaction.

The World Bank claims corruption is the single greatest obstacle to
economic and social development. It undermines development by distorting the
rule of law and weakening the institutional foundation on which economic
growth depends. The harmful effects of corruption are especially severe on
the poor, who are hardest hit by economic decline, are most reliant on the
provision of public services, and are least capable of paying the extra
costs associated with bribery, fraud, and the misappropriation of economic
privileges. Corruption sabotages policies and programs that aim to reduce
poverty, so attacking corruption is critical to the achievement of the
Bank's overarching mission of poverty reduction. The World Bank's proposed
strategy has the following elements:1. Increasing Political Accountability
2. Strengthening Civil Society Participation 3. Creating a Competitive
Private Sector 4. Institutional Restraints on Power 5. Improving Public
Sector Management.

Jurriaan


global corruption alive and well

2003-10-15 Thread Eubulides
http://www.globalcorruptionreport.org/

Global Corruption Report 2003
covering worldwide corruption from July 2001 to June 2002
[Report available as pdf file]


http://www.transparency.org/
[For more info]




To this day, no one has come up with a set of rules for
originality. There aren't any. [Les Paul]


corruption, openness, growth

2003-10-08 Thread Eubulides
[the link to the paper is at the bottom]


http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4247
Free markets can hit economic growth
19:00 08 October 03
Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition.

If developing countries join the global economy too soon, they risk
becoming trapped in a cycle of poverty and corruption, a new analysis
suggests.

A number of empirical studies have shown that poorer countries experience
higher levels of corruption. Badly paid officials are easily tempted by
bribes, the reasoning goes, while the well paid officials in richer
nations risk losing their comfortable salaries if they are caught taking
backhanders. But if corruption so bedevils developing nations, how do they
escape and become rich?

Daniele Paserman, an economist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem,
Israel, and his colleagues say they have found a simple answer. If a poor
country opens up its economy to the outside world too quickly, the flow of
money across its borders encourages corruption, which in turn hampers
growth.


Bribery and wealth

But those countries with closed economies can grow until they can afford
to pay their officials well. This runs counter to the conventional wisdom
that free markets across borders encourage development and cut corruption.
We are highlighting one of the dangers of being more open, says
Paserman. But there are other benefits.

Paserman's team tested the idea by gathering data on economic output in
the late 1990s from 165 countries. They adopted a recently developed index
of corruption, which pools the views of various organisations on how
corrupt individual countries are.

They then classified countries as open, western-style economies or closed
economies. To do this they used several criteria, including the strength
of each country's black market, which always flourishes in closed
economies.

In open countries there was a strong link between poverty and corruption,
with poor countries far more corrupt than rich ones. But in closed
countries they found no correlation (see graphs).

The most plausible explanation for this disparity, says Paserman, is that
in a closed country, corrupt officials are obliged to spend their
ill-gotten gains at home. Even if this money is spent on the black market,
it still helps boost the nation's economic growth. But in open nations,
corrupt money leaves the country, doing nothing to relieve poverty, so
encouraging more corruption.

Andrew Simms of the New Economics Foundation, a think tank based in
London, UK, says developed countries could take some steps to help
developing countries join the global economy. Forcing imported money to be
placed within banks for a fixed period would help track dirty money and
deter money laundering.


Mick Hamer

http://micro5.mscc.huji.ac.il/~economics/facultye/paserman/Neeman-Paserman-Simhon_August2003.pdf


Re: WB-corruption

2003-07-06 Thread Patrick Bond
In Johannesburg, we drink water tainted by WB-supported corruption,
which included a false promise to fund the investigation and
prosecution into Lesotho Highlands Water Project dam-related bribery.
A couple of years ago, the Bank even gave a green light to more work
by Acres Int'l and Lahmeyer -- two big construction companies since
convicted of bribery -- and at least ten others (including the biggie,
ABB) are up for prosecution in coming weeks and months. So instead of
debarring, the Bank actively sabotaged the attempts to stop the
bribery on Africa's largest single project. You can imagine how
incredibly difficult it will be when the WB is faced with pressure to
debar ABB, it's largest contractor.

This is yet another reason for us all to support this excellent
campaign: http://www.worldbankbboycott.org

If any of you have money in your academic pension fund routed through
TIAA-CREF, you'll be happy to know that last week, they officially rid
themselves of the last WB bonds on their books. If that is your money
they were investing in the Bank, you can proudly say that you no
longer profit from global apartheid via the World Bank.


 Does anybody know if the WB publishes the blacklisted corporations?
The
 list is only ...nearly 100 companies and individuals .. 
Pathetically
 short list, but I'd like to see it.

 Gene Coyle

 Eubulides wrote:

 World Bank Focused on Fighting Corruption
 Graft and Bribery, Once Tolerated, Punished by Blacklisting


WB-corruption

2003-07-03 Thread Eubulides
World Bank Focused on Fighting Corruption
Graft and Bribery, Once Tolerated, Punished by Blacklisting

By Jonathan Finer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 4, 2003; Page E01


Once upon a time, World Bank financiers viewed their mission in narrow
terms: Lend money to poor countries to try to make them richer. The
governments that borrowed the money might let a bribe determine who was
awarded a contract, and money intended for new highways or hospitals was
sometimes siphoned off for other purposes, such as buying weapons. But
overall, bank officials said, a little bit of corruption was tolerable --
often necessary -- to make economic development work.

They don't say that anymore.

Responding to evidence that corruption impedes the progress of failing
economies, the World Bank in the late 1990s began cracking down on the
corrupt practices of its borrowers. The one thing I'm proudest of is our
work on corruption, bank President James D. Wolfensohn said recently.

Before he took office in 1995, Wolfensohn said, the bank considered
corruption an issue of politics, as opposed to one of economic
development. Now, it is now central to what we do.

Under Wolfensohn, the bank began participating in international efforts to
fight corruption. It developed internal controls to audit its projects. It
compiled a blacklist of nearly 100 companies and individuals banned from
receiving bank-funded contracts because of bribery, theft or for breaking
other rules. Since 1996, the bank has started more than 600
anti-corruption programs in nearly 100 countries, according to a published
statement.

Some observers of the World Bank -- which reported that it lent $19.5
billion of dollars in the year ended June 30, 2002 -- say it should be
doing more to discourage the governments and companies it works with from
misusing its money, which comes mostly from the governments of rich
countries. The bank has continued to fund projects in countries where
corruption is said to be rampant, such as Bangladesh. Only one country,
Kenya, has been prohibited from receiving bank loans because of its
government's corrupt practices, and that was temporary. Despite the
blacklist, the bank sometimes has been reluctant to ban companies that
violate its rules.

Because many of the world's most corrupt countries are also among the
poorest, the bank's new stance can force difficult choices between
continuing aid to a country that needs it and cutting it to discourage
corruption. Poor countries are also notoriously poor record-keepers,
making auditing more difficult.

No one says this is easy. It's a trade-off, said Peter Eigen, founder
and president of Transparency International, a corruption watchdog group.
You can't just have a simplistic link between the level of corruption and
the level of funding. Some of these countries would really struggle
without the bank's loans.

Eigen, who left the World Bank in 1991 when his pleas for a stronger
anti-corruption stance were ignored, said he believes that under
Wolfensohn the bank has made fighting corruption a priority.

It's very hard to change a large organization like the World Bank, and
they're still working through this, Eigen said. They were pretty bad,
and allowed [corruption] to become a major problem. There's been a total
change in policy, but to change from policy to total implementation is a
long way to go. While I'd be hard pressed to say they've licked it, they
are an enthusiastic and effective partner.

The U.S. General Accounting Office evaluated the bank's anti-corruption
efforts and gave a mixed review in a June report. While it found that the
bank had taken important steps toward reducing internal corruption, the
agency also recommended further action, including a more extensive audit
of whether the bank's loans are used for their intended purposes.

The bank has a long way to go, said William Easterly, an economics
professor at New York University. If the client is important enough
geostrategically or one they want to cultivate in the long run, they will
continue lending to them, despite long histories of corruption. They
continue forcing loans down that pipe.

Corruption can take many forms, but it is usually defined as the misuse of
public office or money for private gain. In the 1980s and early 1990s,
most academic literature on economic development argued that corruption
could help grease the wheels of a fledgling economy. But after several
studies showed that corruption impedes development, many foreign aid
programs began advocating zero tolerance toward corruption.

The World Bank responded to the shifting conventional wisdom. Soon after
Wolfensohn railed against the cancer of corruption at the bank's 1996
annual meeting in Hong Kong, the bank formed an investigative body to
audit its loans and set up a 24-hour hotline to allow staff and members of
the public to report allegations of corruption.

In November 1998 the bank convened a sanctions committee to punish
companies

Re: WB-corruption

2003-07-03 Thread Michael Perelman
The WB fights retail corruption, not wholesale corruption.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: WB-corruption

2003-07-03 Thread Eugene Coyle
Does anybody know if the WB publishes the blacklisted corporations?  The
list is only ...nearly 100 companies and individuals ..  Pathetically
short list, but I'd like to see it.
Gene Coyle

Eubulides wrote:

World Bank Focused on Fighting Corruption
Graft and Bribery, Once Tolerated, Punished by Blacklisting
By Jonathan Finer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 4, 2003; Page E01
Once upon a time, World Bank financiers viewed their mission in narrow
terms: Lend money to poor countries to try to make them richer. The
governments that borrowed the money might let a bribe determine who was
awarded a contract, and money intended for new highways or hospitals was
sometimes siphoned off for other purposes, such as buying weapons. But
overall, bank officials said, a little bit of corruption was tolerable --
often necessary -- to make economic development work.
They don't say that anymore.

Responding to evidence that corruption impedes the progress of failing
economies, the World Bank in the late 1990s began cracking down on the
corrupt practices of its borrowers. The one thing I'm proudest of is our
work on corruption, bank President James D. Wolfensohn said recently.
Before he took office in 1995, Wolfensohn said, the bank considered
corruption an issue of politics, as opposed to one of economic
development. Now, it is now central to what we do.
Under Wolfensohn, the bank began participating in international efforts to
fight corruption. It developed internal controls to audit its projects. It
compiled a blacklist of nearly 100 companies and individuals banned from
receiving bank-funded contracts because of bribery, theft or for breaking
other rules. Since 1996, the bank has started more than 600
anti-corruption programs in nearly 100 countries, according to a published
statement.
Some observers of the World Bank -- which reported that it lent $19.5
billion of dollars in the year ended June 30, 2002 -- say it should be
doing more to discourage the governments and companies it works with from
misusing its money, which comes mostly from the governments of rich
countries. The bank has continued to fund projects in countries where
corruption is said to be rampant, such as Bangladesh. Only one country,
Kenya, has been prohibited from receiving bank loans because of its
government's corrupt practices, and that was temporary. Despite the
blacklist, the bank sometimes has been reluctant to ban companies that
violate its rules.
Because many of the world's most corrupt countries are also among the
poorest, the bank's new stance can force difficult choices between
continuing aid to a country that needs it and cutting it to discourage
corruption. Poor countries are also notoriously poor record-keepers,
making auditing more difficult.
No one says this is easy. It's a trade-off, said Peter Eigen, founder
and president of Transparency International, a corruption watchdog group.
You can't just have a simplistic link between the level of corruption and
the level of funding. Some of these countries would really struggle
without the bank's loans.
Eigen, who left the World Bank in 1991 when his pleas for a stronger
anti-corruption stance were ignored, said he believes that under
Wolfensohn the bank has made fighting corruption a priority.
It's very hard to change a large organization like the World Bank, and
they're still working through this, Eigen said. They were pretty bad,
and allowed [corruption] to become a major problem. There's been a total
change in policy, but to change from policy to total implementation is a
long way to go. While I'd be hard pressed to say they've licked it, they
are an enthusiastic and effective partner.
The U.S. General Accounting Office evaluated the bank's anti-corruption
efforts and gave a mixed review in a June report. While it found that the
bank had taken important steps toward reducing internal corruption, the
agency also recommended further action, including a more extensive audit
of whether the bank's loans are used for their intended purposes.
The bank has a long way to go, said William Easterly, an economics
professor at New York University. If the client is important enough
geostrategically or one they want to cultivate in the long run, they will
continue lending to them, despite long histories of corruption. They
continue forcing loans down that pipe.
Corruption can take many forms, but it is usually defined as the misuse of
public office or money for private gain. In the 1980s and early 1990s,
most academic literature on economic development argued that corruption
could help grease the wheels of a fledgling economy. But after several
studies showed that corruption impedes development, many foreign aid
programs began advocating zero tolerance toward corruption.
The World Bank responded to the shifting conventional wisdom. Soon after
Wolfensohn railed against the cancer of corruption at the bank's 1996
annual meeting in Hong Kong, the bank formed an investigative body to
audit its

Re: WB-corruption

2003-07-03 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message -
From: Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Does anybody know if the WB publishes the blacklisted corporations?  The
 list is only ...nearly 100 companies and individuals ..  Pathetically
 short list, but I'd like to see it.

 Gene Coyle

===

Surf's up:

http://www1.worldbank.org/publicsector/anticorrupt/


Re: Re: Jazz corruption.

2003-03-21 Thread andie nachgeborenen

Gil Skillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For what it's worth, I think the original connection went corruption--brothels and speakeasies and underground clubs--jazz and sometimes blues. 
Right, like I said, New Orleans jazz was whorehouse music to entertain the girls or the customers while waiting.
 A prominent source of "corruption" was Prohibition, during which jazz was the hot dance music of the day. 
Well, yes, but the hothouse licensed corruption of the Storyville Red Light District antedates Prohibition, and the corruption of the swing era and swing-to-bop period postdates it. But there is no doubt that the gangsters who thrived off Prohibition muscled their way into music and clubs big time afterwards as well as during. 
Btw, "hot" jazz was the hot jazz of its day, but there was also sweet jazz of the Paul Whiteman Band variety, mainly done by white performances, that was not hot. Some of it was marvelous. You can't beat Bix Beiderbecke on the horn, unless you're Louis Armstrong. 
 Nowadays corruption has no particular musical connection
Oh, yeah? See Hit Men: Power Brokers  Fast Money Inside the Music Business.by Fredric Dannen
A great read, and really horrifying stories behind the music we love. Makes you long for the days of Al Capone, who after all just wanted his cut.
 --cf.Providence RI or swingin' Bridgeport, CT. As for rock n roll, well, different clientele. Were he alive today, I suspect Boss Tweed wouldn't be into heavy metal.
Hmm. What would BossTweed listen to were he alive today? Sousa or the Sex Pistols? This is an old condundrum about subjunctive conditionals. If Caeser were alive today, he would uise (a) catapults, (b) the MOAB. You pick.
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Jazz corruption.

2003-03-20 Thread Devine, James



is there a 
correlation between corruption and jazz? it makes sense for Chicago and New 
Orleans...

what is the 
explanation of this correlation, if it exists? 

why doesn't 
this correlation work for rock n roll, or does it? did it work for Baroque 
music, back when Bach was hot? 

If the mayor 
stamps out corruption, does that also strike a blow against creative 
music?

enquiring 
minds want to know... 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine 

JKS 
writes:

  [Kansas 
  City]was one of the crookedest places on the planet, and 
  accordingly a capital of jazz. Charlie Parker hailed from there, had his first 
  gigs in Jay McShann's band.


Re: Jazz corruption.

2003-03-20 Thread Gil Skillman
For what it's worth, I think the original connection went 
corruption--brothels and speakeasies and underground clubs--jazz and 
sometimes blues.   A prominent source of corruption was Prohibition, 
during which jazz was the hot dance music of the day.  Nowadays corruption 
has no particular musical connection--cf.Providence RI or swingin' 
Bridgeport, CT.  As for rock n roll, well, different clientele.  Were he 
alive today, I suspect Boss Tweed wouldn't be into heavy metal.

Ethnomusicologically,

Gil


is there a correlation between corruption and jazz? it makes sense for 
Chicago and New Orleans...

what is the explanation of this correlation, if it exists?

why doesn't this correlation work for rock n roll, or does it? did it work 
for Baroque music, back when Bach was hot?

If the mayor stamps out corruption, does that also strike a blow against 
creative music?

enquiring minds want to know...

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevinehttp://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

JKS writes:
 [Kansas City] was one of the crookedest places on the planet, and 
accordingly a capital of jazz. Charlie Parker hailed from there, had his 
first gigs in Jay McShann's band.



Re: Jazz corruption.

2003-03-20 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Jazz and corruption: Jazz (the term is old slang for sex, as in "jazz me baby") was originally New Orleans whorehouse music, based in the "protected" red light district of Storyville, shut down in an abortive effort at protective the morals of servicemen in WWII, thus distributing the music all over the place, including Chicago, where it served a similae purpose in the 1920s under Al Capone; of course KC (in the 30s); LA (in the 40s and 50s), NY (20s on), all crooked towns. jks
"Devine, James" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


is there a correlation between corruption and jazz? it makes sense for Chicago and New Orleans...

what is the explanation of this correlation, if it exists? 

why doesn't this correlation work for rock n roll, or does it? did it work for Baroque music, back when Bach was hot? 

If the mayor stamps out corruption, does that also strike a blow against creative music?

enquiring minds want to know... 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine 

JKS writes:

[Kansas City]was one of the crookedest places on the planet, and accordingly a capital of jazz. Charlie Parker hailed from there, had his first gigs in Jay McShann's band.Do you Yahoo!?
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Re: oil, corruption, rents and all that...........

2003-01-21 Thread Ian Murray
[New York Times]
January 21, 2003
Corruption and Waste Bleed Mexico's Oil Lifeline
By TIM WEINER


CADEREYTA, Mexico - Tony Cantu grew up with the giant oil refinery that
Pemex, Mexico's state-owned oil company, runs here in his hometown. He
helped build it and operate it, rising from construction worker to
computer programmer to chemical engineer.

Mr. Cantu gave Pemex a decade of his working life. But he will never
work there again. He can explain why in one word.

Corruption, he said, gazing at the refinery, 20 miles outside
Monterrey in northern Mexico. People being stepped on, forced to be
corrupt - I hated that. There were a lot of things you had to shut up
about. The bosses would kill to protect themselves. People were
subjugated by fear.

For more than 60 years, Pemex, the world's fifth-largest oil company,
has been Mexico's economic lifeblood. A $50 billion-a-year enterprise,
it controls every gas pump in Mexico, and it sells nearly as much oil to
the United States as Saudi Arabia does.

Today, with some oil producers like Iraq and Venezuela facing
nation-shaking crises, Mexico looks like a sure and steady source of
oil. The United States may be tempted to rely on it even more.

But Pemex is in danger of breaking down. Financially, we are falling,
its director, Raúl Muñoz Leos, said in an interview. Nearly every peso
of Pemex's profits goes to run the government of Mexico. The company,
after paying taxes and royalties, actually lost $3.5 billion in in 2001.
Without major restructuring or tens of billions of dollars in foreign
investment, Mr. Muñoz Leos warned recently, We would face, in the short
term, a collapse.

One reason is a rottenness at Pemex's core. The company loses at least
$1 billion a year to corruption, its executives say, in a continuous
corrosion of the machine that keeps Mexico solvent.

Fixing Pemex is as crucial to Mexico's future as it is to American oil
supplies. When Vicente Fox became president two years ago after
defeating the political machine that ran Mexico for 71 years - the
Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI - he vowed to make his country
more open and democratic and to make Pemex run like a 21st-century
corporation.

To change Mexico, Mr. Fox must first change Pemex. It has been a cash
machine for the government, a slush fund for politicians and a patronage
mill for party loyalists since the party created Petróleos Mexicanos, or
Pemex, in 1938.

After nationalizing American and British oil interests, the party
promptly changed the Constitution to bar foreign investment in
underground oil and gas. It was a declaration of independence:
Expropriation Day is still celebrated each year.

Even today, the PRI, which still holds a plurality in Congress, is
fighting changes to the Constitution and at the oil giant it created, in
part on grounds of patriotism. President Fox's attempts at reform have
been hamstrung by PRI resistance - and Pemex's history of corruption.

Pemex's last director, Rogelio Montemayor, a former PRI governor, and
its union boss, Carlos Romero Deschamps, a PRI senator, each stand
accused of stealing tens of millions of dollars from Pemex for the PRI's
2000 presidential campaign against Mr. Fox.

Both men deny the charges. Mr. Romero Deschamps is battling an attempt
in Congress to strip him of the legal immunity he enjoys as a sitting
senator. Mr. Montemayor fled Mexico last year and is fighting
extradition from Houston. The PRI, struggling to defend them - and
itself, is also resisting every effort to transform Pemex.

The political will needed to reform Pemex has just not coalesced, said
Eduardo Cepeda, the head of J. P. Morgan Chase's Mexico office.

Edward L. Morse, executive adviser at Hess Energy Trading Co. and former
publisher of Petroleum Intelligence Weekly, said by telephone from New
York that the effort to reform the beast had failed. President Fox, he
said, does not understand how thoroughly ingrained in the national
political culture the monopoly of Pemex is.

Pemex remains one of the world's few national oil companies with no
competition from within or without. Its resulting inefficiencies are
stark.

Othón Canales Treviño is Pemex's director for competitiveness and
innovation - the man in charge of creating the new Pemex. He once ran
a company that supplied Pemex with chemicals, and he was often solicited
for bribes, he said. Today he sits on a commission on corruption at
Pemex, composed of 14 directors.

There is corruption, he said. But I think the inefficiency is worse.
There is brutal inefficiency.

For example, Mr. Canales said, he recently asked how much Pemex paid
each year for goods and services - everything for ice packs to
helicopters rented to fly engineers to offshore rigs.

No one knew. It took four months to come up with the answer - $7
billion.

We want to act like a company, he said. Pemex isn't a company. It
isn't Pemex Inc. We're not a government ministry either. We are -
something weird. Our behavior changes

Corruption, pollution and the US

2002-02-03 Thread michael perelman

The times has an article describing a study in which Finland is First,
and U.S. 51st, in Environmental Health.  Cuba is also ahead of the US. 
Corruption is a major factor in determining pollution.

Nonetheless, the descrition does not make the study seem to solid.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/02/science/02ENVI.html?ex=1013670932ei=1en=420884fcf3650311
-- 

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
 
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




the econophysics of corruption

2002-01-28 Thread Ian Murray

 http://www.nature.com/nsu/020121/020121-14.html 

Sample of hilarity:

For a social economy, there is a threshold average wealth above
which Pareto's law collapses and one person can garner a
significant proportion of the total wealth. Burda's team calls this
a physical mechanism for corruption. Below the threshold, money
distribution follows the power law. For a liberal economy, on the
other hand, this threshold is infinite. So corruption,
theoretically speaking, does not occur.

Ian





Global Crime, Corruption, and Accountability

2001-07-20 Thread Michael Pugliese



 http://www.epiic.com/archives/1999/syllabus99.html




Re: unemployment corruption

2000-10-13 Thread Sam Pawlett



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I can't remember any details, but Michael Vickery had a discussion of this
 topic in a book on Cambodia in which I thought he did a good job of deflating
 the KR's pretensions to being socialists. I haven't read it in many years,
 though.

There's a new edition of Vickery's book out. The best book on that
period in Cambodia. Vickery argues that DK was closest to what Marx,at
times, called an "asiatic mode of production."

Sam Pawlett




unemployment corruption

2000-10-11 Thread Jim Devine

[was: Re: [PEN-L:3001] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Memory  History: 
Herman  Melville's _Benito Cereno_ (was Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile)]

I wrote: Do you believe that state ownership automatically creates [full 
employment]? It's not true in Algeria, for example, where the state 
ownership of the oil industry coexists with high unemployment... Also, even 
in the old USSR, where low unemployment was the rule, political deviants 
found that they had a hard time getting a job. Please correct me if I am 
wrong about this.

Louis writes: I am talking about state ownership in countries that have 
had socialist revolutions. Algeria did not. The right to a job was one of 
the central features of the Soviet economy, as it was in China until 
recently (Iron Rice Bowl). 

I would credit the "iron rice bowl" and "the right to a job" not to state 
ownership of property but to the fact that the peasants and/or workers were 
actively involved in the revolution and thus kept a lot of power in society 
for a long time (though this power decayed). State property is a necessary 
condition to allow these rules, but is not sufficient.

In the case of the USSR, the "right to a job" eventually reflected not 
working-class power as much the dynamics that Kornai and others pointed to: 
the planning system created an incentive to hoard all inputs, including 
labor-power. Factory managers had to have enough labor-power available to 
try to live up to the unreasonable demands of the central plan. This in 
turn allowed the working class to escape the kind of powerlessness that 
arises from the normality of unemployment (seen under capitalism) but not 
enough power to control the state.

BTW, did the right to a job apply to Jehovah's Witnesses? or did they have 
to stay "in the closet" to keep a job? That is, am I right to say that 
"even in the old USSR, where low unemployment was the rule, political 
deviants found that they had a hard time getting a job"?

 If you want to know how important it was and how antithetical it was to 
an "efficient" economy, I would refer you to Alec Nove's "Toward a Feasible 
Socialism". Workers are not "productive" unless you have the lash of 
unemployment threatening them.

Capitalism's "solution" (using the reserve army of the unemployed to 
motivate workers) is quite inefficient, while the official standards of 
"efficiency" applied in the media and by many economists basically refer to 
profit maximization, not true efficiency. (Capitalism sacrifices efficiency 
to preserve profits, just as the Soviet-type planned economy sacrificed 
efficiency to preserve bureaucratic rule.)

As you should know from reading my messages to pen-l, I don't agree with 
Nove, even though I've never singled him out by name.

 In many cases, as Kornai argues, Soviet workers had jobs (and so weren't 
openly unemployed) but didn't do much work, since there was little 
incentive to do so...

 Efficiency is a different topic altogether. I am much more concerned 
about beggary, prostitution, hunger and disease than I am about efficiency ...

You should know that if an economy is wasting less of its resources, it has 
more resources available to deal with beggary, prostitution, hunger, and 
disease. The fact that it does not do so reflects _class power_: the 
capitalists don't want to solve these problems unless (1) they start 
spreading to their number, as when diseases from the slums start hitting 
the "good side of town" (cf. Engels on Manchester) and/or (2) people start 
organizing to push those in power to care about these problems.

In a separate thread (on privatization), I wrote that the ruling strata in 
countries with state-owned means of production fight like hell to preserve 
that power. Second, there's the specific kind of corruption I was talking 
about, the use of collectively-owned assets for private gain. Now, I don't 
know the facts of the matter, but Milosevic's colleagues have been accused 
regularly of exactly that.

Louis writes: Of course there was corruption. Milosevic's resignation 
speech openly admits that. "Time spent in opposition helps a party rid 
itself of those who joined it for personal gain while it was in power." 

If even Milosevic admits the existence of corruption, then it _must_ exist! 
So you think that this corruption was one factor that encouraged his recent 
expulsion from the presidency of the FRY? Or was the corruption itself the 
result of US/NATO's efforts?

 However, corruption in a postcapitalist society is a lesser evil to 
unemployment in a capitalist society. People did not die of corruption 
under Brezhnev, they die now for lack of food or medicine in Putin's free 
economy.

I find it very hard to make comparisons like this. Some bozo might say "but 
what if 1917 had never happened? then we should compare a country that was 
capitalist all along to 

Re: Re: unemployment corruption

2000-10-11 Thread Jim Devine

This discussion is getting very repetitive, so I shortened it.

I wrote:
 More importantly, I don't see why anyone has to choose between Brezhnev and
 Putin. Why can't we reject both?

Louis responds:
Because postcapitalist economies function like trade unions--they offer 
working people protection against the ravages of the free market.

Not all of them do. Look at Pol Pot's Democratic Kampuchea, which replaced 
one ravage for another. No matter how many the Khmer Rouge killed, it's 
more than in the average capitalist country.

I would choose Jimmy Hoffa against a break-up of the Teamsters at the 
hands of the FBI.

Is this the only choice? what about if the TDU were to really take control?

To repeat myself (again!), the problem with the corrupt "trade unions" that 
ruled Eastern Europe is that they undermined their own popular support, 
making them prone to overthrow, from within and without.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: Re: unemployment corruption

2000-10-11 Thread Louis Proyect

Jim Devine:
Not all of them do. Look at Pol Pot's Democratic Kampuchea, which replaced 
one ravage for another. No matter how many the Khmer Rouge killed, it's 
more than in the average capitalist country.

No socialist revolution here.

Is this the only choice? what about if the TDU were to really take control?

TDU, sure. Good.

To repeat myself (again!), the problem with the corrupt "trade unions" that 
ruled Eastern Europe is that they undermined their own popular support, 
making them prone to overthrow, from within and without.

Okay.

Louis Proyect
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Re: Re: Re: Re: unemployment corruption

2000-10-11 Thread Jim Devine

I wrote:
 Not all of them do. Look at Pol Pot's Democratic Kampuchea, which replaced
 one ravage for another. No matter how many the Khmer Rouge killed, it's
 more than in the average capitalist country.

Louis writes:
No socialist revolution here.

why not? it sure seems to fit the standard definition: peasants take power 
(under the leadership of a party that is organized along "Leninist" lines, 
i.e., as a top-down hierarchy of the sort that became popular under Stalin) 
and the state takes over the means of production.

Was it non-socialist because the Khmer Rouge had an incorrect line? a wrong 
program? because its leadership dabbled in French structuralism?

It seems to me a clear case of bad socialism (though it shouldn't be used 
to say anything about socialism in general).

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: unemployment corruption

2000-10-11 Thread Louis Proyect

Jim Devine:
why not? it sure seems to fit the standard definition: peasants take power 
(under the leadership of a party that is organized along "Leninist" lines, 
i.e., as a top-down hierarchy of the sort that became popular under Stalin) 
and the state takes over the means of production.

Sorry, Jim. If I am going to discuss Cambodia, it will be on the same basis
that I discuss anything in depth. I will have to spend time in the Columbia
library and really dig in. I don't think you have the time nor the
inclination to keep up your side of the debate, so I will let things drop
right here.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: unemployment corruption

2000-10-11 Thread JKSCHW

In a message dated 10/11/00 6:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It seems to me a clear case of bad socialism (though it shouldn't be used 
 to say anything about socialism in general). 

 I can't remember any details, but Michael Vickery had a discussion of this 
topic in a book on Cambodia in which I thought he did a good job of deflating 
the KR's pretensions to being socialists. I haven't read it in many years, 
though. --jks




Re: corruption

2000-01-23 Thread Charles Brown

For one thing, the monied interests are constantly buying influence from politicians 
in legal ways. Money is the life blood of politics. The vast majority of politicians 
are influence peddlars in the first place. Take campaign financing in the U.S. So, a 
lot of times no doubt the line between legal and illegal bribery gets fuzzy or just 
forgotten. "Corruption" is standard operating procedure in bourgeois democracy. Some 
corruption is legal and some isn't. Sometimes the corruption gets exposed for various 
reasons, but it is almost always there, whether exposed or not.

CB

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/21/00 05:28PM 
what do you folks think about the corruption of the Christian Democrats in
Germany? To me it links up with similar corruption of CDs in Italy and
Japan. In all three, the corrupt CDs were part of the US coalition against
the USSR, with corruption often involving CIA-type funds. With the end of
the Cold War, this corruption came to light, as it was no longer in the
coalition's interest to cover it up. 

I'm not saying that CDs are necessarily worse than say, social democrats.
After all, the economist Papandreou became a corrupt PM of Greece. 

Of course, there's nothing necessarily corrupt about politicians. In the
private sector, they call it "business as usual."

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[PEN-L:10309] Corruption in Russia

1999-08-23 Thread Sam Pawlett

[Apologies for the poor formatting. Articles like this appear everyday
on JRL] --SP.




Johnson's Russia List
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#4
New York Times
August 22, 1999
[for personal use only]
Russian Money-Laundering Investigation Finds Familiar Swiss Banker in
the 
By TIMOTHY L. O'BRIEN with RAYMOND BONNER

At the intersection of illicit Russian money and the Bank of New York is
Bruce 
Rappaport, a Swiss banker who has had brushes with governmental
investigators 
in the past and who has long had an important connection to the bank. 

Together with the Bank of New York, Rappaport owns a bank in Switzerland
that 
helped provide the American bank with important business contacts in
Russia, 
according to Western bankers familiar with the operation. 

And millions of dollars that were channeled through the Swiss bank,
known as 
Bank of New York-Inter Maritime, are linked to what Federal
investigators 
describe as possibly one of the biggest money-laundering schemes in the 
United States, according to a person close to the investigation. 

The Bank of New York, which for years aggressively sought business in
Russia, 
is currently engulfed in a Federal money-laundering investigation that
led to 
the suspension last week of two senior officers who oversaw the bank's 
Russian business. Federal investigators are also looking into the
activities 
of their husbands, both of whom are involved in businesses that have
ties to 
either Rappaport or his Swiss bank. 

The money moving through the Bank of New York-Inter Maritime raises the 
question of why the Bank of New York, a conservative institution that is
one 
of the nation's oldest banks, worked closely with a man who has
frequently 
drawn the attention of government regulators and law-enforcement
officials 
worldwide. 

Most recently, Rappaport's bank was sued by the Justice Department in
1997, 
to recover proceeds that the Government asserted were from drug sales
that 
had been deposited in the Bank of New York-Inter Maritime on the
Caribbean 
island of Antigua by a known money-launderer. A Federal judge dismissed
the 
case last year, though, citing lack of jurisdiction. The Government is 
appealing the decision. 

A Boston lawyer representing Bank of New York-Inter Maritime, William
Shaw 
McDermott, did not respond to requests to interview Rappaport or talk
about 
the Justice Department suit. Efforts to contact Rappaport were
unsuccessful. 
The Bank of New York, which is cooperating with the Federal
money-laundering 
investigation, declined to comment about Rappaport. 

The interest of investigators is heightened, one official said, because 
Rappaport, who is 76 years old and lives in Switzerland, was recently 
appointed Antigua's Ambassador to Russia. Antigua, this official noted,
has 
been a major center of Russian money-laundering for many years.
Rappaport has 
long had close business, banking and political ties to Antigua, where
the 
Government once granted him a near-monopoly on the fuel-oil market. 

Money-laundering is a legal catch-phrase that refers to the criminal
practice 
of taking ill-gotten gains and moving them through a sequence of bank 
accounts so that they ultimately look like legitimate profits from legal 
businesses. The money is then withdrawn and used for further criminal 
activity. 

Rappaport, who has never been convicted of any wrongdoing, is well known
in 
Russian banking circles. He helped solicit business during the boom
times in 
Moscow. In fact, for a brief time, Bank of New York Inter-Maritime was
used 
in 1994 by the Bank of New York to conduct business in Russia. 

The world of international banking is often built on personal
relationships. 
In that world, an ability to deal easily across borders and within
business, 
political and financial circles is highly valuable to big banks. To gain 
access to certain foreign markets, the Bank of New York has relied on
people 
like Rappaport. 

Born in Haifa, now Israel, Rappaport has used his base in Geneva to
pursue 
investments and business in a wide range of places, including Oman,
Liberia, 
Nigeria, Haiti, Thailand, Indonesia, Belgium and the United States.
Rappaport 
opened Inter-Maritime in Geneva in 1966. 

By the 1980's, he was one of the Bank of New York's largest individual 
shareholders, controlling millions of dollars in stock amounting to a
nearly 
8 percent stake in the company. 

Although virtually all of that stock has been sold, back in the 80's, 
Rappaport's hefty stake gave him entre to the bank's senior management, 
including the chief executive at that time, Carter Bacot. Bacot, whom
the 
Bank of New York declined to make available for comment, is said by a
former 
Bank of New York senior executive to have approved the bank's decision
to buy 
a large stake in Rappaport's bank known then as Inter Maritime. 

By 1992, the Bank of New York reportedly owned about 28 percent of what 
became known as Bank of New York-Inter Maritime. 

In the 

[PEN-L:9237] Corruption of a Chinese scientist?

1999-07-16 Thread Henry C.K. Liu

Since 1998, the writer of the following article is one my partners in a
financial trading company we started.  I think you may enjoy reading the
article.  Several decades ago, I left the practice of architecture and
urban planning under similar circumstances with similar results.  Our
private group have more than 50 partners like this writer with several new
companies in the financial sector, and we are already an independent force
now and fully expect to make some big noises within a very few years.
We are all socialists by inclination and oppose the ill effects of
globalization. Yet we are undeniably active players, albeit reluctant
ones, in the globalized finance game.  Life is complex, most of us cannot
wait for the revolution before we make something of our lives.  We are not
heroes and certainly no revolutionaries.  We are just doing the best we
can with what we have - our brains, in a system we don particularly
approve. All of us came to America as students, with hardly a penny in our
pockets and some with student loans to pay back. We have pledged a good
portion of our profit toward progressive causes we support.

Henry C.K. Liu

DRAGON SLAYER WENT TO THE STREET
  --My experience in joining the financial industry
   By B.



  “Perfected in the art of dragon slaying,
  he started teaching how to slay dragons..”

  --A cartoon at the NYU Physics Department


When a business school faculty member quits academia to join a Wall Street
firm, they say “He went to the street”. It implies that he leaves the safe
haven for the jungle of the merciless world. Not without envy, everyone
expects him to make a large fortune, though, at the cost of a scholar's
soul.

Traditionally a person who had gone through the long and arduous way to
attain the Ph. D. in theoretical physics had only one destiny: becoming
nothing but a professor of physics. All branches of natural sciences
culminated in the first half of this century as the first atomic bomb
vaporised Hiroshima, television sets crept into the living rooms of the
ordinary men, and Neal Armstrong stepped down to the surface of the moon.
By the 1990s, it seems that most important and doable things have been
done in theoretical physics. The remaining problems are either too
difficult, or simply tedious and uninteresting. Like the dragon slayer in
the cartoon on the corkboard of the physics department coffee room, I did
not find any significant dragons to slay.

I went to the street in 1993 after being a postdoctoral research scientist
for a year at the Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences of New York
University. The inspiration came from a few friends and fellow physics
graduates who went on to business schools for another Ph.D. in finance. At
that time a few former physicists already landed on jobs with famous Wall
Street firms. The rumour said some of them were making over a hundred
thousand dollars for the first year. It sent shockwaves among the fellow
scientists and graduate students. In parties and coffee rooms, I started
to hear about talks of options, stock trades, and Wall Street anecdotes.
With scepticism I bought the famous book by Professor John C. Hull,
“Futures, Options, and Other Derivative Securities”. My friend at the
Stern School of NYU recommended it to me and said that the book was
regarded “the Bible of Wall Street”. To my amazement, the content was
quite interesting. It was all about models and formulas that made a lot of
sense. I even wondered that I could have discovered the Black and Scholes
formula myself if I had had been in finance. For a glimpse at the culture
and throat-cutting warfare of the street, I started to read those once
best-selling books such as “Liar’s Poker”, “Money Culture”, “Thieves at
the Den”, and “Barbarians at the Gate”. They absorbed me in a similar way
as did the “God Father”. Then I was ready to try out my lucks. A friend at
Prudential Securities gave me a list of eight headhunters and I started

sending out resumes. Five of them promptly called and asked me to pay a
visit to their offices. In about a month's time, a nice lady headhunter
arranged an interview for me with JP Morgan's derivatives research group.
In the morning she gave me a final check-up phone call before the
interview. “Be confident”, she said, “From now on you will never worry
about money again”.

The JP Morgan building on 60 Wall Street looked serious and intimidating.
The guy who received me was very nice. His business card showed his title
as “Vice President”. I was truly shocked. “Am I really this important?”, I
thought. Then I was brain stormed by six interviewers each talked about 20
minutes with me. Three of them asked me game-like questions such as “What
is the minimum number of times you have to use a balance to find out a
fake coin among eight other identical looking real ones?”, “What is the
optimal stopping strategy for getting the highest expected score if you
are 

[PEN-L:7830] China Cracks Down on Corruption

1999-06-08 Thread Henry C.K. Liu

Report: Former Beijing Police Chief Held Over Smuggling Probe

  HONG KONG, Jun 8, 1999 -- (Agence
  France Presse) Beijing's ex-police chief has
  been detained as part of investigations into
  corruption charges against a former
  Chinese deputy public security minister, a
  Hong Kong newspaper reported Tuesday.

  Zhang Liangji, fired in March as head of
  Beijing's public security bureau, was taken
  into custody by the communist party's
  Central Commission for Discipline
  Inspection, the independent Sing Tao Daily
  said.

  It said Zhang was held to assist
  investigations into smuggling charges
  against detained former deputy public
  security minister Li Jizhou, as well as into
  unpaid loans made to Zhang's son, who
  died in a shopping mall fire in Beijing last
  year.

  Earlier reports said Li, detained since
  December, allegedly used his position to
  issue more than 70,000 registration plates
  for vehicles smuggled into the country.

  China launched a nationwide
  anti-smuggling campaign last year.
  President Jiang Zemin targeted the chronic
  problem of goods moving in and out of the
  country without customs clearance, helped
  by profiteering civilian and army officials.

  High duties and tariffs on certain goods
  have promoted a lucrative smuggling
  industry -- both for the smugglers and the
  officials who protect them in return for
  kickbacks. ((c) 1999 Agence France
  Presse)






[PEN-L:4072] Re: Capitalism Corruption

1996-05-02 Thread Mike Meeropol

Blair defines capitalism as the appropriation of surplus value.  The only
way this is true is by tautology:  all other forms of "surplus production"
are not surplus value -- only under captalism are forms of surplus production
surplus value, therefore... etc. etc.  Consider what all of us might agree
is really a socialist social formation:  a democratically controlled
industrial system where the social surplus is allocated democratically. 
What workers produce over and above what is necessary to replace her/himself
with two equally qualified/satisfied adult children over her/his working
life and what is necessary to replace all equipment over the same period
would be allocated in part to the worker and in part to the rest of society. 
Now --- is that "appropriation" of surplus value:  if the word means "taking
against one's will" one might argue "no" because of the democratic control
of decision-making.  Yet even in that circumstance, the MINORITY's "surplus"
will be appropriated by the majority.  Yet this would be socialism.

I would go further and argue that all class societies which utilize markets 
involve the appropriation of surplus value --- the slave mode of production
in the American South is a perfect example of that situation.  Capitalism 
(IMHO) is a particular form of the expropriation of surplus value.

Surely, the situation under Stalinist Central Planning created some kind of
class society --- but I am loath to call it capitalist.  For one thing, I
don't think it had the same kind of dynamics --- particularly in the form of
imperialism it adopted (in my opinion, Soviet imperialism after World War II
was quite defensive in nature --- not to the people it oppressed but in
terms of strategy).  I would have a hard time seeing any "exploitation"
motivation for Soviet expansionism -- in terms of aid to Cuba, Africa,
Vietnam, etc.  (whereas the motivation for the US in many of the Cold War
episodes were so blatantly exploitative as to be beyond question --- except
for most US intellectuals!).

Cheers, Mike
-- 
Mike Meeropol
Economics Department
Cultures Past and Present Program
Western New England College
Springfield, Massachusetts
"Don't blame us, we voted for George McGovern!"
Unrepentent Leftist!!
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[PEN-L:4092] Re: Capitalism Corruption

1996-05-02 Thread bill mitchell

Mike wrote:

Blair defines capitalism as the appropriation of surplus value.  The only
way this is true is by tautology:  all other forms of "surplus production"
are not surplus value -- only under captalism are forms of surplus production
surplus value, therefore... etc. etc.  Consider what all of us might agree
is really a socialist social formation:  a democratically controlled
industrial system where the social surplus is allocated democratically. 
What workers produce over and above what is necessary to replace her/himself
with two equally qualified/satisfied adult children over her/his working
life and what is necessary to replace all equipment over the same period
would be allocated in part to the worker and in part to the rest of society. 
Now --- is that "appropriation" of surplus value:  if the word means "taking
against one's will" one might argue "no" because of the democratic control
of decision-making.  Yet even in that circumstance, the MINORITY's "surplus"
will be appropriated by the majority.  Yet this would be socialism.


you have to put in the adjective alienated before the appropriation i think.
workers in socialism would be exploited and their surplus appropriated. the
fact is that if htey choose to do it then they are not alienated.

in a simple two sector model of socialism - consumption goods and capital
goods, the workers in the consumption goods sector have to be exploited in
order that food is available to the capital goods workers. you can't eat
machines.

kind regards
bill


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[PEN-L:4102] Re: Capitalism Corruption

1996-05-02 Thread Blair Sandler

At 7:48 AM 5/2/96, Mike Meeropol wrote:
Blair defines capitalism as the appropriation of surplus value.  The only
way this is true is by tautology:  all other forms of "surplus production"
are not surplus value -- only under captalism are forms of surplus production
surplus value, therefore... etc. etc.  Consider what all of us might agree
is really a socialist social formation:  a democratically controlled
industrial system where the social surplus is allocated democratically.
What workers produce over and above what is necessary to replace her/himself
with two equally qualified/satisfied adult children over her/his working
life and what is necessary to replace all equipment over the same period
would be allocated in part to the worker and in part to the rest of society.
Now --- is that "appropriation" of surplus value:  if the word means "taking
against one's will" one might argue "no" because of the democratic control
of decision-making.  Yet even in that circumstance, the MINORITY's "surplus"
will be appropriated by the majority.  Yet this would be socialism.

I was sloppy. I should have said capitalism is a social formation in which
the dominant form of organization of production is capitalist class
processes, i.e. the appropriation of sv. What dominant means of course is
open to interpretation and disagreement. But this at least permits
theorization of multiple class processes and their articulation, which is
what Mike addresses but in my opinion does not resolve, below.

I would go further and argue that all class societies which utilize markets
involve the appropriation of surplus value --- the slave mode of production
in the American South is a perfect example of that situation.  Capitalism
(IMHO) is a particular form of the expropriation of surplus value.

Notice the tautology in Mike's formulation: "a democratically controlled
industrial system where the social surplus is allocated democratically."
People often use the word "democracy" as if its meaning was somehow
resolved, not a locus of intense struggle.

No, "appropriation" does not mean "taking against one's will": I define
communist class processes as the collective self-appropriation of surplus
labor. This might mean in practice against the will of some, by the will of
others, etc. The relationship is not predetermined a priori.

I don't think my definition is any more or less tautological or problematic
than Mike's. But it is apparently different. Several articles by Resnick
and Wolff in RETHINKING MARXISM over the past few years address the
question of class exploitation in the Soviet Union.

In struggle and solidarity,

Blair Sandler
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[PEN-L:4047] Re: Capitalism Corruption

1996-05-01 Thread Mike Meeropol

WARNING:  I am responding to part of a post from S. Tell.

SHAWGI TELL wrote:
 
-- lots of stuff deleted --

  In terms of establishing an economic and political system to
 serve the interests of the people, there is  rich experience from
 the twentieth century. The only system which had no crisis was
 socialism, established in the Soviet Union during the period of
 1926-27 to the time J.V. Stalin died in 1953. Nikita Khrushchev
 introduced elements into the socialist system which were to enable
 the new bourgeoisie to rise from the bureaucracy and the overthrown
 exploiting classes.

Charles Bettleheim's _Class Struggles in the USSR_ and E.H. Carr's mammoth
_A History of Soviet Russia_ gives the lie to this absurd dichotomy which
argues that Lenin and Stalin established "socialism" and from Khrushchev
through Gorbachev  the "misleaders" established "capitalism."

Until the re-creation of private ownership of the means of production (not
control by a factory manager but actual ownership) in the former Soviet
Union whatever social formation existed in that country it was not
capitalism.  

In addition, the development of a "non-socialist" social formation which
called itself socialist began VERY EARLY --- and the process of Stalinist
central plannng and Stalinist anti-democratic bureaucracy was in many
respects the antithesis of socialism.  Without power emanating from the
people with _real teeth_ in the unions and peasant cooperatives and
political organizations sufficient to check centralized power, our 20-29
hindsight permits us to recognize that socialism as the antithesis of
capitalism was NEVER created in the former Soviet Union.  Perhaps at certain
times people were actually TRYING to do it, but by the time Stalin had
visited his anti-democratic authoritarianism on the Soviet people, cynicism,
careerism and self-protection became the rule all through the country.

Roy Medvedev's _Let History Judge_ is probably as good an internal critique
of Stalinism (by a professed socialist and Marxist I might add) as I've
heard of, but I'm sure there are plenty of people on the list who could
provide us with sufficient bibliography to refute the absurd statement that
I've quoted above.

Normally I ignore stuff like this ... but there are certain FACTS of history
that have to be understood and acknowledged.  At least ... IMHO.

Sorry to those who took the trouble to read this for taking up so much
space/time.

Mike

-- 
Mike Meeropol
Economics Department
Cultures Past and Present Program
Western New England College
Springfield, Massachusetts
"Don't blame us, we voted for George McGovern!"
Unrepentent Leftist!!
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[PEN-L:4065] Re: Capitalism Corruption

1996-05-01 Thread Blair Sandler

At 6:40 AM 5/1/96, Mike Meeropol wrote:
Charles Bettleheim's _Class Struggles in the USSR_ and E.H. Carr's mammoth
_A History of Soviet Russia_ gives the lie to this absurd dichotomy which
argues that Lenin and Stalin established "socialism" and from Khrushchev
through Gorbachev  the "misleaders" established "capitalism."

Until the re-creation of private ownership of the means of production (not
control by a factory manager but actual ownership) in the former Soviet
Union whatever social formation existed in that country it was not
capitalism.

I agree with Mike's first paragraph above and his other (omitted) comments
to the effect that SU under Stalin was neither democratic nor socialist,
but I disagree with the second paragraph. *Private* ownership of the means
of production is clearly a condition of *certain* forms of capitalism, but
it does not *define* capitalism. That is defined as the appropriation of
surplus value, which does not necessarily require private ownership if
certain other conditions exist.

Blair Sandler
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