Re: TPF Devel::Cover grant report May/June 2014

2014-08-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Paul Johnson p...@pjcj.net wrote: or at least on http://news.perlfoundation.org/ ... all the previous reports have ended up there, posted by either Mark or Karen. But, as busy folk, it sometimes takes a day or two for that to happen. I should probably have

Re: TPF Devel::Cover grant report May/June 2014

2014-07-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Christian Walde walde.christ...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:59:51 +0200, Paul Johnson p...@pjcj.net wrote: http://cpancover.com/staging/index.html (Warning, that's quite large now Total 25:00 That is a hell of a thing. Thanks for your work

Re: Running perl from a test on Windows

2013-01-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Buddy Burden barefootco...@gmail.com wrote: Gabor, I am not sure if this helps but in Windows you need to put the double-quotes around $cmd my $output = qx{$^X -e $cmd}; Yes, that would work if I were running _only_ on Windows. But I need it work

Re: Running perl from a test on Windows

2013-01-14 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Buddy Burden barefootco...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, Okay, my Google-fu is failing me, so hopefully one of you guys can help me out. For a test, I need to run a snippet of Perl and collect the output. However, if it rus in the current interpreter, it will load

Fwd: [LDTP-Dev] [Ann] Cobra 2.5 - Windows GUI test automation tool

2012-10-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
Many thanks to Sawyer! -- Gabor -- Forwarded message -- From: Nagappan Alagappan nagap...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM Subject: [LDTP-Dev] [Ann] Cobra 2.5 - Windows GUI test automation tool To: LDTP Dev Mailinglist ldtp-...@lists.freedesktop.org Hello,

Fwd: [LDTP-Dev] Announce: Cobra 2.0 - Windows GUI test automation tool

2012-08-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
FYI something is really missing there :-( Gabor -- Forwarded message -- From: Nagappan Alagappan nagap...@gmail.com * Java / C# / VB.NET / PowerShell / Ruby are now officially supported LDTP scripting languages other than Python [...] About LDTP: Cross Platform GUI

Re: Fatal wide character warnings in tests

2012-01-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: How do I make Wide character in print warnings fatal in tests? Test::NoWarnings catches all forms of warnings in your test, not only the specific one you mentioned. Maybe that could be used/changed. Gabor -- Gabor

Re: Capturing only STDERR with Capture::Tiny?

2011-12-01 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:25 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: Does a request for such feature in Capture::Tiny sound reasonable? https://metacpan.org/source/DAGOLDEN/Capture-Tiny-0.12/Changes Nice. Thank you

Re: Capturing only STDERR with Capture::Tiny?

2011-11-30 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:16 PM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: What is your suggestion to solve this? Does a request for such feature in Capture::Tiny sound reasonable? It's reasonable and has been requested before

Capturing only STDERR with Capture::Tiny?

2011-11-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
I've started to patch the test of Term::ProgressBar as it was failing on Windows. The module prints things to STDERR and dies when it is called too many times. In the test script there is now code like this: use Test::More; use Test::Exception; use Capture::Tiny qw(capture); my ($our, $err) =

stable and development releases on CPAN

2011-06-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
Slightly related to the recent discussion on DarkPan management tools I wonder why are we still stuck with latest-and-breakest when installing modules from CPAN? Actually now I am wondering from the side of the module developer who wants to upload new versions of her module but wants to make be

Net::Server 0.99 fails with Devel::Cover 0.73

2011-03-22 Thread Gabor Szabo
. 0/195 subtests failed. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 Without Devel::Cover the tests pass. Anyone with tuits who could figure out why do those test fail and what needs to be fixed? regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/

Flier about using Perl for Testing

2011-01-17 Thread Gabor Szabo
appreciated as I need to have a version of this document in about 2 days to get it printed on time. Later on we can improve it but I'd rather have something reasonable for FOSDEM than nothing. regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo                     http://szabgab.com/ Perl Ecosystem Group       http://perl

Re: Flier about using Perl for Testing

2011-01-17 Thread Gabor Szabo
as possible. Execution time isn't that critical. For this you build a small bridge between Perl and your C or C++ libraries and write your tests in Perl. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo                     http://szabgab.com/ Perl Ecosystem Group       http://perl-ecosystem.org/

Testing (other things) with Perl

2011-01-16 Thread Gabor Szabo
, could it be added there? Maybe on the http://qa.perl.org/siteinfo.html page. I also found this page: http://www.perl.org/about/whitepapers/perl-testing.html that might be linked from the QA website. regards Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/

Devel::Cover with options

2011-01-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
In a project I am working on the directory layout does not have a lib directory so we have /X.pm /X/Y.pm ... /t/test.t when I run $ PERL5OPT=-MDevel::Cover make test $ cover I get report only for the files in t/ how can I tell Devel::Cover to report about all the files in the current directory

SQE conferences

2010-08-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
hi, has anyone visited or given talks at SQE conferences in the past? http://www.sqe.com/conferences/ Could you please share your experience? Would it be interesting at those conferences to offer talks about TAP and the way testing is done using Perl? regards Gabor

What are you doing with Perl in the QA department?

2010-05-08 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, In this question I am not so much interested in how you do unit testing of your Perl code but how you use Perl in a QA or QC department? Some of you might know that I have a training course on how to use Perl in test automation. That course assumes you already know Perl. (First I teach TAP

getting more details from a test script

2010-04-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
, '', $filename) { print $fh $mech-content; diag File: $filename; } }; and then parse the TAP output for 'File:' *after* a test failure. Is there a better way to do this? regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/

Re: getting more details from a test script

2010-04-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 5/4/10, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com Maybe I need something like this: $mech-content_like(qr{regex}) or do {     my $filename = 'some_filename';     if (open

Re: getting more details from a test script

2010-04-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Joe McMahon mcma...@ibiblio.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: I could write this: $mech-content_like(qr{regex}) or diag $mech-content; but then I get all the content in the TAP stream making it quite unreadable

Makefile:1457: *** multiple target patterns. Stop.

2010-03-27 Thread Gabor Szabo
Though this has been already resolved but let me send it here for the next person who might fall in this trap I got the error message Makefile:1457: *** multiple target patterns. Stop. when I was trying to add a Makefile.PL to Bugzilla. The problem was that Bugzilla has its modules from the

Re: Interesting test failure under prove --merge

2009-12-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Michael Peters michael00pet...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/03/2009 04:18 PM, David Golden wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Gabor Szaboszab...@gmail.com  wrote: 2 2 : 2 4 : 4 2 :   E r r o r :   C a n n o t   s e t   l o c a l e t o   l a n g u a g e   A r a

Interesting test failure under prove --merge

2009-12-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
I encountered and interesting failure that only appears when I run prove with --merge on Windows. This is running in the Padre Stand Alone which means Strawberry October 2009. perl 5.10.1 Same thing on Linux works well though I have not compared the versions of Test::Harness.

Re: Interesting test failure under prove --merge

2009-12-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
PM, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com I encountered and interesting failure that only appears when I run prove with --merge on Windows. This is running in the Padre Stand Alone which means Strawberry October 2009. perl

Re: Where are the detailed error messages in TAP?

2009-12-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Michael Peters mpet...@plusthree.com wrote: On 11/30/2009 05:25 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: One thing I seem to be missing from the failing tests are the details of the failures.  Shouldn't that be part of the TAP stream and displayed on Smolder? It is not included

Where are the detailed error messages in TAP?

2009-11-30 Thread Gabor Szabo
I just setup a smoke-bot for Padre and started to push the results to http://smolder.plusthree.com/app/public_projects/smoke_reports/11 One thing I seem to be missing from the failing tests are the details of the failures. Shouldn't that be part of the TAP stream and displayed on Smolder? It is

Re: Discourage use_ok?

2009-11-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote: On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 02:24:11AM -0800, Ovid wrote: --- On Mon, 9/11/09, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com The *only* use I've ever had for use_ok() has

Re: Making TODO Tests Fail

2009-07-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ovidpubliustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: We currently have over 30,000 tests in our system. It's getting harder to manage them. In particular, it's getting harder to find out which TODO tests are unexpectedly passing. It would be handy have to some option

Re: Making TODO Tests Fail

2009-07-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Michael Petersmpet...@plusthree.com wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: I think it would be better to have a tool (Smolder) be able to display various drill-downs from the aggregated test report. If you want to see what Smolder would do to your tests, create a TAP

My Smolder wish-list

2009-07-01 Thread Gabor Szabo
http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/07/1246433080.html Gabor

prove is not generating archive when test bails out.

2009-06-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
When running tests with prove -a file.tar.gz it nicely creates the archive file but if the test bails out the archive file is not created at all. Is this a feature or a bug ? Gabor

Combining TAP with more extensive logging of raw data

2009-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
I am trying to switch some home grown test scripts to test scripts using Test::* modules and TAP. There is one major issue and I wonder how others deal with it. The home grown test scripts include raw data in their reports. e.g. when testing a web services we send an XML and receive another

Re: Combining TAP with more extensive logging of raw data

2009-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Andy Armstronga...@hexten.net wrote: On 10 Jun 2009, at 14:07, Michael Peters wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: How do you deal with similar situation ? Test::More::Diagnostic lets you output structured YAML with your tests. Not all of the tools in the chain

Fwd: [TIP] Announcement: Racetrack 1.0 repository

2009-05-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Nagappan Alagappan nagap...@gmail.com Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM Subject: [TIP] Announcement: Racetrack 1.0 repository To: testing-in-pyt...@lists.idyll.org Hello all, Racetrack is a designed to store and display the results of

prove with line numbers

2009-05-18 Thread Gabor Szabo
Is there a way to ask prove to print out the row number of each ok() call ? I have a test script that blows up after 18 calls to ok() inside the application printing only the line number in the application. I can search for the title of the ok() all but it would be nice if I could ask prove

FTP server for testing

2009-05-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
Is there and FTP server module that could be used for light-weight testing of an application that among other things also fetches a file from and ftp server ? I should be able to set it up simply without root access and run it on a high port allowing access based on some username/password not

OT: lists.cpan.org

2009-03-24 Thread Gabor Szabo
I know there are people who will complain about the fact I did it or the way I did it, I am getting really used to it. So I took the liberty to copy all the data from lists.cpan.org (aka lists.perl.org) to the Perlfoundation wiki. As the data was too big to fit on one page I split it up into 6

SocialText WTF

2009-03-24 Thread Gabor Szabo
I was editing the mailing_lists page on the perlfoundation wiki when it complained a bit and told me the service is currently not available. After that *it saved its own error message as the next revision of the page*.

Re: Counting tests

2009-03-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Evgeny evgeny.zis...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen the page : http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Why_can%27t_a_program_count_its_own_tests And I still don't understand, why can't a perl program count its test and then when all the tests are done write

Re: Counting tests

2009-03-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Evgeny evgeny.zis...@gmail.com wrote: If my script ended early, because maybe even a core dump ... the I wont care. It's just another case of a failed test that cant be reported by Test::More, but a human looking at the screen will hopefully understand what

Re: Counting tests

2009-03-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Evgeny evgeny.zis...@gmail.com wrote: Gabor, Since you are in the field of testing - then you probably know about the other frameworks in other languages. Specifically what Ruby's Cucumber is about. I tried writing something similar in Perl, using Test::More

Re: Counting tests

2009-03-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Evgeny evgeny.zis...@gmail.com wrote: I actually put a link to the FAQ at the very first mail I sent. It does not address my questions, it gives examples that say we can't count tests ahead of time, its impossible. But I just want you to change the approach

Re: Testing scripts with expected STDOUT and STDERR in external files

2009-02-21 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:30 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: I wonder if there are modules out there that already do this? I could not find any that would fit my needs. Test::Output? http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Test

Testing scripts with expected STDOUT and STDERR in external files

2009-02-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
Lately I need to test many small utilities written in various languages. For the most simple cases I just need to run the utilities with a set of input and check if the output is the same as expected. For this it is enough to run system path/to/utitlity in.txt out.txt 2 err.txt and then

explain() of Test::Most and that of Test::More are different

2009-02-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
It is obvious but would be nice if would not happen use Test::More; diag explain $data; works nicely, then if I swicth to use Test::Most; diag explain $data; it stops printing as it now requires TEST_VERBOSE so Test::Most is not a drop-in replacement for Test::More. Gabor

Re: explain() of Test::Most and that of Test::More are different

2009-02-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com It is obvious but would be nice if would not happen use Test::More; diag explain $data; works nicely, then if I swicth to use Test::Most; diag

Re: done_testing()

2009-02-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 08:21:33PM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: Finally, this makes it now possible to build up the test plan as you go. I'd like to put first order support into Test::Builder and

Re: running tests with an arbitrary interpreter using Test::Harness

2009-02-08 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: With prove I can say prove --exec $ENV{PARROT_DIR}/parrot $ENV{PARROT_DIR}/languages/rakudo/perl6.pbc t/01.t and it will run $ENV{PARROT_DIR}/parrot $ENV{PARROT_DIR}/languages/rakudo/perl6.pbc t

running tests with an arbitrary interpreter using Test::Harness

2009-02-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
I'd like to start to upload experimental Perl 6 modules to CPAN and make it easy for anyone to install. I think the only issue I have right now is that I don't know how to force make test to use Rakudo for running the test suit. For now I'll expect the user to have $ENV{PARROT_DIR} point to the

Re: done_testing()

2009-02-05 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com First of all, thank you! This is fantastic work and I'm sure it will make a lot of people happy. ++ Thoughts on first order support: use

cpan.org is our of date?

2008-12-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
I wonder why http://www.cpan.org/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz still has a timestamp of 2008-12-17 01:27 ? $ ping www.cpan.org PING cpan.pair.com (66.39.76.93) Oh and $ wget http://www.perl.org/ does not answer after trying from from two locations. Gabor

Module::Install and Test::NoWarnings- require Test::NoWarnigs should not hide warnings.

2008-12-23 Thread Gabor Szabo
In the Padre project we encountered some strange behavior. We recently switched to use Module::Install and we also use Test:::NoWarnings in our tests. It seems Module::Install loads all the modules listed as requires or test_requires during the execution of Makefile.PL This brought up the

Re: Public Humiliation and Kwalitee

2008-10-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:06:21AM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: and that the cpantesters tools would ignore them. isnt(CPAN Testers, CPANTS); You're confusing the issue. Please do not bring CPAN Testers into this. why,

Re: Public Humiliation and Kwalitee (was Re: Tested File-Find-Object-0.1.1 with Class::Accessor not installed)

2008-10-23 Thread Gabor Szabo
http://cpants.perl.org/highscores/hall_of_shame It says Not Found thanks domm Gabor

Re: New CPAN Testers Reports site

2008-09-23 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:08 AM, David E. Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 20, 2008, at 00:29, Barbie wrote: See http://use.perl.org/~barbie/journal/37496 for all the gory details. Barbie++ # Thank you! More Barbie++ BTW you could double the link entries in the PAUSEID.html file so

Can't locate version/vpp.pm in @INC

2008-09-11 Thread Gabor Szabo
Can someone tell me what causes this failure? http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/09/msg2187300.html the latest Module::Inspector (1.05) is installed http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-Inspector/ and that module has not test failure at all. Gabor

Re: passing the baton onwards

2008-09-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:15 AM, brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do the work to handle the ones the authors give up without a maintainer, and my first idea was that a virtual user than we advertised as free modules (free as in kittens) would move modules int willing homes faster. But

Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/

2008-09-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until PAUSE starts doing that, how do you let new authors know about cpantesters? Also note that creation of an account may be separated from uploading a module by several years. IMHO it is easy to add a few lines about the

Re: Reporting Bugs Where they Belong (was Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality)

2008-09-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will identify it, but testers may or may not see the warning as it scrolls by in the CPAN output. Not much I can do about that. But it will suppress the reports at least. Actually you can send an e-mail about this to

Re: cpantesters - why exit(0)?

2008-09-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
I am personally quite satisfied with the CPAN Testers though I do think that there is too much noise (false FAIL reports) which mean the average CPAN user who is not familiar with the situation will be misled. AFAIK Barbie and co are working on a better schema for the database that soon will

Re: Should MANIFEST go in the repository?

2008-08-20 Thread Gabor Szabo
First of all thanks for Perl::Critic! I am quite sure this question has the potential of a nice holy war. Anyway. I am in the Keep MANIFEST in repo and manually update camp. I think MANIFEST is and should be the tool you control what gets in the distro and the failures and warnings you might get

Fwd: [TIP] Pythoscope proposal

2008-08-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, the following message is cross posted from TIP - the Python testing mailing list. http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/testing-in-python Archive of this thread starts here: http://lists.idyll.org/pipermail/testing-in-python/2008-August/000921.html Where does Perl stand in regards of such tool? As

Re: testing for warnings during tests

2008-08-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
I was just cleaning up old mails when I found this thread On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:49 PM, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue I am trying to solve is how to catch and report when a test suit gives any

Re: testing for warnings during tests

2008-08-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:11 PM, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. IMHO that is what *diag* is for. To print all kinds of messages to the screen in a TAP. Going up the thread, I think you had asked about whether

Error report for Padre 0.05

2008-08-18 Thread Gabor Szabo
Looking at this report I am not sure why does it fail and how to fix it http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/08/msg2041140.html Besides, AFAIK PAR::Packer is not one of the prereqs of Padre so what are these messages regarding PAR::Packer? Known uninstallable prereqs

Re: wxWidgets and TAP processing (YAPC::EU?)

2008-08-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # from Gabor Szabo # on Friday 08 August 2008 02:05: but I'd like to create a wxWidgets interface for TAP. Have you looked at wxCPANPLUS? I think Sam was just using a text widget for the harness output, but perhaps

scary and strange thing in FindBin

2008-08-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
If I have the following code in a file called Makefile.PL use FindBin; print $FindBin::Bin\n; perl Makefile.PL prints /home/gabor/work/pugs no matter where the file is located. If the file is called a.pl with the same content it prints the correct directory as expected. perl 5.8.8 on

Re: scary and strange thing in FindBin

2008-08-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 01:09:23PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: If I have the following code in a file called Makefile.PL use FindBin; print $FindBin::Bin\n; perl Makefile.PL prints /home/gabor/work/pugs no matter where

Re: wxWidgets and TAP processing (YAPC::EU?)

2008-08-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # from Gabor Szabo # on Friday 08 August 2008 02:05: but I'd like to create a wxWidgets interface for TAP. Have you looked at wxCPANPLUS? I think

wxWidgets and TAP processing (YAPC::EU?)

2008-08-08 Thread Gabor Szabo
is interested in doing this, or helping me with this, there are several options. One of them is to hack on this during and after YAPC::EU http://www.yapceurope2008.org/ye2008/wiki?node=PerlIDE Otherwise, you are welcome to join me on the Padre project. regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http

Re: Interrest for a QA-Tool hackathon after YAPC::EU

2008-07-18 Thread Gabor Szabo
I am about to book my flight to Copenhagen but I have to decide when to come back so I was wondering what's going on with the Hackathon? Is it going to take place? Who is attending? What is being planned for? Is there still place to join? Gabor On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:49 PM, nadim khemir

Re: About tidying up Kwalitee metrics

2008-06-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:49 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 29 June 2008 02:28:54 Thomas Klausner wrote: For example: http://cpants.perl.org/kwalitee.html#no_cpants_errors no_cpants_errors Shortcoming: Some errors occured during CPANTS testing. They might be

Re: About tidying up Kwalitee metrics

2008-06-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Hilary Holz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/25/08 10:24 AM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008 03:15:59 Thomas Klausner wrote: One comment regarding 'each devel sets his/her own kwalitee metrics': This could be quite easy for the

Re: testing for warnings during tests

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Fergal Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/10 Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So apparently using Test::NoWarnings isn't that cool and mandating it with CPANTS metric is even less cool. What's the problem with T::NW? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the rest

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-06-10T12:27:29] I'd like to see the metircs that only talk about the quality of the distribution, and leave everything else alone. If it's something I can fix by doing something to

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
control. e.g. she can fetch the patch include it in the official distribution on CPAN and notify the Debian maintainers to upgrade. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html

New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
? Maybe http://perlbuzz.com/ ? Any other ideas? regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html

testing for warnings during tests

2008-06-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
compability. Maybe the harness of the smokers could do that - assuming they have the latest version of TAP - and then report the issues. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html

Re: testing for warnings during tests

2008-06-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:42 AM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 21:28:40 Gabor Szabo wrote: The issue I am trying to solve is how to catch and report when a test suit gives any warnings? Is it even possible? I thought one of the goals of CPANTS was not to run any

best practices for temporary files during testing

2008-06-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
place for temporary files and directories that I can expect to be writable? Should I just use File::Tempdir ? Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html

Re: Test::NoWarnings and plan skip_all don't like each other

2008-06-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I found out that if you skip_all tests while you have Test::NoWarnings your test will fail. Bad.:-( ... and a work around I just found would be to load Test::NoWarnings only after the call to plan() like

Re: CPANTS has_separate_license_file test

2008-06-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
that already in the SVN we just have to wait till Thomas has some time to upgrade the version on the server. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html

Test Automation Tips and discussion list

2008-05-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
as the other master classes organized by brian d foy: https://www.theperlreview.com/cgi-bin/events.cgi regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tipshttp://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html

Test Anything Planet - aggregating testing related blogs

2008-05-23 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have always wanted a reason to ask you people, how are you improving your testing skills? Are there any particular books you recommend? Are you reading blogs that are really good place to learn about testing? Or are you just writing more tests and improve by experience? Among other things I am

Test::NoWarnings and plan skip_all don't like each other

2008-05-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
Yesterday I was happy to notice that you can use Test::Warn together with Test::NoWarnings. So you can test for a watning in a specific test while testing that nothing else gives a warning.\ Good. :-) Today I found out that if you skip_all tests while you have Test::NoWarnings your test will

Test::Harness 3.10 lots of issues under Devel::Cover 0.64

2008-05-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi Paul, I am not sure if this was discussed already but while Test::Harness 3.10 passes its tests on my Ubuntu 7.10 with perl 5.8.8 it fails when running with Devel::Cover: Here is the beginning of the 2684 lines of output: Deleting database

libwww-perl-5.812 and Devel::Cover 0:64

2008-05-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
After running the following as I have been doing with many other modules cover -delete export DEVEL_COVER_OPTIONS=-coverage,statement,branch,condition,path,subroutine,time HARNESS_PERL_SWITCHES=-MDevel::Cover make test cover -report html all tests PASS and then I get: Can't open database

Keeping tests for execution at a later point in time

2008-04-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
installation? regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/

Re: Preparing a new Test::* module

2008-04-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Fergal Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say put as much as possible of this outside the Test:: namespace and then wrap in a thin Test:: wrapper. I wish I'd done this with Test::Deep, it's on the todo list but I'll never get around to it, I am not sure

Re: W3C validator without network access?

2008-04-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
Thanks. Now I hope someone will package it as a module on CPAN :-) Gabor On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, April 6, 2008 9:28 pm, Gabor Szabo wrote: Is there a W3C validator that works locally on my computer? All the modules I

W3C validator without network access?

2008-04-06 Thread Gabor Szabo
Is there a W3C validator that works locally on my computer? All the modules I found so far use the http://validator.w3.org/ service including Test::HTML::W3C but that's not really usable in a frequently running test suit. There is Bundle::W3C::Validator that I think bundles all the modules need

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-04-01 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have arrived to Oslo this morning. http://www.szabgab.com/blog/2008/04/1207076595.html on Friday I'll finish at Linpro at 17:00 and then I'd be glad to join the rest of you. Gabor

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Ovid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to take the existing .*Unit libraries of Java and .Net and create some wrapper around them (or a replacement) so people with existing tests

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Gergely Brautigam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do I have the feeling that I'm part of a Borg cube ? :D I don't know but I should re-read my sentences *before* I send them. It seems my English gets worse by the hour. Sorry for that. Gabor

Re: Is FIT fit for purpose?

2008-03-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
There were already many good answers here, let me just add my perspective probably just repeating the previous comments. I am not a Fit expert and I have never used that with real customers but I did use something resembling it as I think all of you have. Occasionally I organize a QA Day for QA

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Salve J Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *) Whiteboards, markers erasers. Lots of whiteboards for taking notes. At least one whiteboard just for projects being worked on, the grid at BarCamps is an example. We'll have at least 5 rooms with

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, does anyone know a student? I tried to spam all the local universities but with the current USD exchange rate people get about 30-40% less this year than 2 years ago... ok, I know its not about the money. Gabor

Topics in Oslo

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On the Topics page http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_Topics I have started to move the topics suggested by people to a separate place and started to include a list of interested people. I think the talks can be removed from this page as they are already available on

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Salve J Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael G Schwern said: David Golden wrote: I'm curious to try git, if anyone is up for teaching it. I had the same thoughts. My concern is that we'll be spending time futzing with git rather than hacking

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