2014/1/10 Sebastian Sastre
> guys this discussion is heading towards a non fruitful direction
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> Let's remember why are we here?
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> *"The purpose of the Smalltalk project is to provide computer support for
> the creative spirit in everyone."* ~ D.H. Ingalls
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> Do you know what are the psycholo
guys this discussion is heading towards a non fruitful direction
Let's remember why are we here?
"The purpose of the Smalltalk project is to provide computer support for the
creative spirit in everyone." ~ D.H. Ingalls
Do you know what are the psychological consequences of punishment feedback o
On 10 January 2014 11:37, kilon alios wrote:
> You know what is bad ? Simplifiications and Generalisations.
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> The only thing that is predictable about humans is their unpredictability.
> Education is an extremely complex subject because humans are extremely
> complex in the way they think and f
You know what is bad ? Simplifiications and Generalisations.
The only thing that is predictable about humans is their unpredictability.
Education is an extremely complex subject because humans are extremely
complex in the way they think and feel. For example I have a phobia for
dentists, yet never
Le 10/01/2014 11:18, Igor Stasenko a écrit :
On 10 January 2014 10:47, Goubier Thierry mailto:thierry.goub...@cea.fr>> wrote:
Le 10/01/2014 10:41, kilon alios a écrit :
I agree this is an excellent way to educate people at worse they can
become pyromaniacs.
And
On 10 January 2014 10:47, Goubier Thierry wrote:
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> Le 10/01/2014 10:41, kilon alios a écrit :
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> I agree this is an excellent way to educate people at worse they can
>> become pyromaniacs.
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> And in a case I know, the fire burn was so high the kid lost two fingers
> for life and all mem
On 10 January 2014 10:41, kilon alios wrote:
> I agree this is an excellent way to educate people at worse they can
> become pyromaniacs.
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> There's sheer number of people who like to hurt themselves.. i doubt
there's anything you can do about it and (re)educate them that this is bad.
Exceptio
I never learned as much as from my mistakes. And some where heavy, leading
to the most learning.
"Experience is a good teacher. Her fees are high tough"
But inflicting punishment doesn't work. Cats and dogs training is proof.
Positive reinforcment works. So does patience and consistency with the
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Le 10/01/2014 10:41, kilon alios a écrit :
I agree this is an excellent way to educate people at worse they can
become pyromaniacs.
And in a case I know, the fire burn was so high the kid lost two fingers
for life and all memories of the incident :(
Well, if this is the analogy we're worki
I agree this is an excellent way to educate people at worse they can become
pyromaniacs.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
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> On 9 January 2014 22:30, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
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>> I don't think Igor meant punishment as a tool, but rather experience
>> something n
On 9 January 2014 22:50, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
> I agree. I don't believe Igor intended to mean punishment, even if
> punishment is what he said. He is not native to the English language or
> idioms.
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> When he spoke of the child, he spoke of allowing the consequence of the
> child's actions to
On 9 January 2014 22:30, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> I don't think Igor meant punishment as a tool, but rather experience
> something negative for yourself.
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> right.. punishment as consequence of your own deeds, but not punishment as
a tool,
which you using against someone.
> I am sure tha
I agree. I don't believe Igor intended to mean punishment, even if
punishment is what he said. He is not native to the English language or
idioms.
When he spoke of the child, he spoke of allowing the consequence of the
child's actions to occur. Not that the parent punished the child. This
is
I don't think Igor meant punishment as a tool, but rather experience something
negative for yourself.
I am sure that if you think back at your own development, there were instances
where you did not listen to adults warning you and only learned certain things
the hard way.
Anyway, we're gettin
Igor,
The way you describe the role of punishment in education is not in line with
current research. Most learning happens trough copying the behavior of others,
and punishment has a number of negative consequences on character development,
making it a non-suitable instrument. You might want to
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