On 07 Jan 2015, at 13:15, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com
wrote:
On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu
mailto:hila...@drgeo.eu wrote:
With git, don't you lost the capability to browse the history of changes
in your code?
Hilaire
The history mechanism
On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu wrote:
With git, don't you lost the capability to browse the history of changes
in your code?
Hilaire
Some IDEs like WebStorm can should you history based on the git repo commit
history.
But for us is more theoretical than practical
I prefer the Smalltalk environment.
so do I
Sorry, if that would be true then Java or C# would be of extraordinary
quality.
Smalltalk has been there for more than 30 years and will probably another
30 years.
Hypes come and go. Quantity for me seems more like the opposite of quality.
True ?
Thanks hilaire.
May be we should try to find some time and love to ensure the next 5 years.
Le 1/12/14 11:19, Hilaire a écrit :
Hello,
From my experience point of view with SmalltlakHub, I found this tool
remarkably stable, useful, feature complete and quite well integrated
with Monticello.
I
2014-12-02 6:22 GMT-03:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com:
I prefer the Smalltalk environment.
so do I
Sorry, if that would be true then Java or C# would be of extraordinary
quality.
Smalltalk has been there for more than 30 years and will probably another
30 years.
Hypes come and go.
2014-12-02 12:22 GMT+03:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com:
True ? Smalltalk cannot even begin to compete with the tools and library
support of these two behemoths programming languages.
Just for few cents.
If you group this million tools by logical functionality I'm sure it will
be much
Denis wrote:
Kilon wrote:
Smalltalk cannot even begin to compete with the tools and library support of
these two behemoths programming languages.
Just for few cents.
If you group this million tools by logical functionality I'm sure it will be
much less then smalltalk systems have. Most tools
Am 02.12.2014 um 19:51 schrieb Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de:
Denis wrote:
Kilon wrote:
Smalltalk cannot even begin to compete with the tools and library support
of these two behemoths programming languages.
Just for few cents.
If you group this million tools by logical
Thank you Kilon,
Jannik
2014-11-27 11:53 GMT+01:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com:
You dont need anything installed to work with git , apart from git itself.
The workflow is the same as with smalltalkhub + the standard workflow of
git.
I am using filteree which is already included with
Hello,
From my experience point of view with SmalltlakHub, I found this tool
remarkably stable, useful, feature complete and quite well integrated
with Monticello.
I want to say thank you guys for the energy you spend to keep it running.
Hilaire
Le 27/11/2014 11:14, Noury Bouraqadi a écrit :
Le 27/11/2014 11:29, kilon alios a écrit :
My personal opinion on Github and Pharo is that it already works great
with Pharo. The workflow with filetree is exactly the same as other
languages that gives the added advantage that you can use all the
powerful tools you use with other languages
Thank's Dale and Esteban for explanation
2014-11-30 18:58 GMT+03:00 Dale Henrichs dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com:
Actually, SS3 and smalltalkhub appeared about the same time. Tobias Pape
had been slowly improving the GemStone version of SqueakSource3 and I got
tired of waiting 2-3 days for
2014-12-01 11:21 GMT+01:00 Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu:
Le 27/11/2014 11:29, kilon alios a écrit :
My personal opinion on Github and Pharo is that it already works great
with Pharo. The workflow with filetree is exactly the same as other
languages that gives the added advantage that you can
No of course not. That would have been a deal braker.
Personally I prefer using Sourcetree to browser history of commits than
using the pharo on board tools. Pharo is good on that respect, but
sourcetree is better and smartgit I have used in the past. It also has nice
visualisation for branches ,
+1
Doru
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu wrote:
Hello,
From my experience point of view with SmalltlakHub, I found this tool
remarkably stable, useful, feature complete and quite well integrated
with Monticello.
I want to say thank you guys for the energy you
Am 01.12.14 12:34, schrieb kilon alios:
No of course not. That would have been a deal braker.
Personally I prefer using Sourcetree to browser history of commits
than using the pharo on board tools. Pharo is good on that respect,
but sourcetree is better
Alas Sourcetree is only available for
El Mon Dec 01 2014 at 12:19:53 PM, Andreas Wacknitz a.wackn...@gmx.de
escribió:
Am 01.12.14 12:34, schrieb kilon alios:
No of course not. That would have been a deal braker.
Personally I prefer using Sourcetree to browser history of commits than
using the pharo on board tools. Pharo is
It's not a matter of SourceTree or other program, it's about your git GUI
app of preference. You can use plain git from the command line if you
prefer.
The git repo is portable, the client is up to you.
+1000
exactly and that is something I advocate.
You cant use Sourcetree on linux ? no
Am 01.12.14 um 19:56 schrieb kilon alios:
It's not a matter of SourceTree or other program, it's about your git
GUI app of preference. You can use plain git from the command line if
you prefer.
The git repo is portable, the client is up to you.
+1000
exactly and that is something I
My comment was not about discussing the pros and cons of closed versus
open source software. My concerns are more about reliability.
For me it's totally Ok to use git for versioning IF the tools are there.
Squak and Pharo have decent versioning systems that suit their internal
needs. There
2014-11-27 18:01 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com:
btw… historic reference: sthub was never intended to be there for stay. I
remember talking about it with Nico and Stef, more than two years ago,
before sthub came online, and our conclusion at the time was: “yes, the
future
On 30 Nov 2014, at 13:41, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-11-27 18:01 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
mailto:esteba...@gmail.com:
btw… historic reference: sthub was never intended to be there for stay. I
remember talking about it with Nico and Stef,
Actually, SS3 and smalltalkhub appeared about the same time. Tobias Pape
had been slowly improving the GemStone version of SqueakSource3 and I got
tired of waiting 2-3 days for SqueakSource to come back from a crash, so I
pushed SS3 up as an Alpha to get something up that was more stable than
+1
It was like that.
On 30 Nov 2014, at 13:41, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com
mailto:dionisi...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-11-27 18:01 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
mailto:esteba...@gmail.com:
btw… historic reference: sthub was never intended to be there for
Tx dale.
Yes it was like that :)
Le 30/11/14 16:58, Dale Henrichs a écrit :
Actually, SS3 and smalltalkhub appeared about the same time. Tobias
Pape had been slowly improving the GemStone version of SqueakSource3
and I got tired of waiting 2-3 days for SqueakSource to come back from
a crash,
Can't we have a part of Pharo days devoted to fixing some of this?
It would be useful I am sure.
STH is putting Amber, Pharo and Mongo together and is a good case for
scaling properly.
This may feel like a problem but is actually a huge opportunity to get our
stack right.
Amber is now 0.13 and
kilon alios wrote:
I forgot to add that git comes with excellent gui clients that are far
more powerful and elegant that what Pharo offers currently .
We started late. We had tools reasonably suited for our needs which we
were comfortable with. I think/hope that once libgit is released in
We started late. We had tools reasonably suited for our needs which we
were comfortable with. I think/hope that once libgit is released in
Pharo and the wider community becomes more familiar with it, it stimulates
us to develop tools to rival the others. Tools that non-Smalltalkers also
2014-11-28 14:40 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com:
kilon alios wrote:
I forgot to add that git comes with excellent gui clients that are far
more powerful and elegant that what Pharo offers currently .
We started late. We had tools reasonably suited for our needs which we
were
Am 27.11.2014 um 11:46 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe:
On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:14, Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com wrote:
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don’t click too fast :-(
While I’m grateful to developers of SmalltalkHub and previously SqueakSource, I
believe as a small community, we cannot
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don’t click too fast :-(
While I’m grateful to developers of SmalltalkHub and previously SqueakSource, I
believe as a small community, we cannot afford developing everything by
ourselves. We don’t have enough man-power. We can see the symptoms since
SmalltalkHub is in
My personal opinion on Github and Pharo is that it already works great with
Pharo. The workflow with filetree is exactly the same as other languages
that gives the added advantage that you can use all the powerful tools you
use with other languages for commiting to git and github. I have not
Hi Kilon,
Do you have any documentation on how to use github in Pharo ?
What should I install, how to use it ?
Thank you.
Jannik
2014-11-27 11:29 GMT+01:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com:
My personal opinion on Github and Pharo is that it already works great
with Pharo. The workflow with
On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:14, Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com wrote:
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don’t click too fast :-(
While I’m grateful to developers of SmalltalkHub and previously SqueakSource,
I believe as a small community, we cannot afford developing everything by
ourselves. We
You dont need anything installed to work with git , apart from git itself.
The workflow is the same as with smalltalkhub + the standard workflow of
git.
I am using filteree which is already included with Pharo. These are the
steps from absolute scratch
1) Download git and install it
2) Create
Hi,
On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:14, Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com wrote:
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don’t click too fast :-(
While I’m grateful to developers of SmalltalkHub and previously SqueakSource,
I believe as a small community, we cannot afford developing everything by
ourselves.
I forgot to add that git comes with excellent gui clients that are far more
powerful and elegant that what Pharo offers currently .
If you are user of emacs there is magit , really powerful gui client and
very popular among emacs users.
For gui client I have used quite a lot SmartGit
At times, mczs still come handy for some merges...
And Smalltalkhub is good as a safe heaven for collecting packages that are
otherwise scattered all around.
Is there a reason why Smalltalkhub would not stay working nicely?
Are we talking about using bigger boxes here? Or is it a deeper issue?
On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:43, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
At times, mczs still come handy for some merges...
And Smalltalkhub is good as a safe heaven for collecting packages that are
otherwise scattered all around.
nothing that a real catalog/centralised package manager alla npm/apt-get/etc
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:43, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
At times, mczs still come handy for some merges...
And Smalltalkhub is good as a safe heaven for collecting packages that are
otherwise scattered all around.
On 27 Nov 2014, at 15:53, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
mailto:esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:43, p...@highoctane.be mailto:p...@highoctane.be
wrote:
At times, mczs still come handy for some
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don’t click too fast :-(
While I’m grateful to developers of SmalltalkHub and previously SqueakSource, I
believe as a small community, we cannot afford developing everything by
ourselves. We don’t have enough man-power. We
On 27 Nov 2014, at 16:05, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don’t click too fast :-(
While I’m grateful to developers of SmalltalkHub and previously
SqueakSource, I believe as a small community, we cannot afford
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 04:19:20PM +0100, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
On 27 Nov 2014, at 16:05, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don?t click too fast :-(
While I?m grateful to developers of SmalltalkHub and
On 27 Nov 2014, at 17:15, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 04:19:20PM +0100, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
On 27 Nov 2014, at 16:05, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
SmalltalkHub is slow, so don?t click too
Nice to know that you run successful web apps.
People on this list used to say the same about squeaksource.com. But it
has been working flawlessly since it got updated to the latest version
(which implies that a few bugs got fixed).
What makes you think that tracking down the bugs in
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