Well peter, someday when they shut down you account for absolutely no good
reason then ask you for bunch of personal information that could set you up for
identity theft you may feel differently.
Her is the whole sad story. My wife and I became Paypal members very early on
in the program
i've sold hundreds of bucks worth of stuff on ebay and have used paypal
for most of it, and have never paid a penny in fees to paypal. nor
have i ever had any problem with them, whatsoever.
gee, what am i doing wrong?
On Feb 25, 2005, at 6:13 AM, funk wrote:
All of this has been discussed
Paypal has some funny rules that don't make alot of sense to us on the
outside. I used them to send $2000.00 to Australia, they had the $2000.00 from
my
Bank Account, they would not give the man in Australia more than $500.00 per
month, although he owed them no money, and I told them it's my
Removed from eBay by 9:30 this AM.
-Original Message-
From: Loran T.Hughes [mailto:lo...@oldcrank.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:47 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] eBay Scam Listing
This one is a fraud, folks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
This is still a valid point, either way. As both a buyer and seller on
ebay, I have NO problem absorbing the seller fees. The convenience can't
be beat as far as I am concerned. I love not having to wait for somebody
to send me a check or money order or even an email confirmation that they
will
Seems some are on the same page here. I think it's terrible that people
have had account problems with Paypal. Unfortunately, it's one of those
nature of the beast problems that can happen to anybody. Recently I had
my bank debit card number fished from an unsecure web connection;
luckily, i
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 09:57 -0600, Mgraziano1 wrote:
Whenever I sell via eBay, I put the clause that the buyer will have to pay
the Paypal fees if they choose to pay via Paypal. Otherwise, I accept a
bank check or money order.
And doing so is a violation of eBay policy. See
i've sold hundreds of bucks worth of stuff on ebay and have used paypal
for most of it, and have never paid a penny in fees to paypal. nor
have i ever had any problem with them, whatsoever.
gee, what am i doing wrong?
Sorry Peter, but when you made this statement it looked a bit facetious,
I agree with you, Robert. I've always transferred my paypal balance over
to my bank account upon receiving payment immediately. I've only done that
because I like having access to the cash (I guess it's a mental thing with
me).
I've also never been upgraded to business level. I do remember
Amen, Sean! Those phishers use every bank name and every financial service
name in the book to try and get account info... Guaranteed -- if you get an
email asking you for any info, it's a scam, period, just like any auction
for an 'authentic autograph' that happens to be a private auction.
I
Unfortunately, or maybe in this case, fortunately, I've never sold anything
that has gone over two figures since I started advertising that I accept
PayPal. I suppose one way to do it would be to accept PP up to say $400
and escrow larger sales.
Ron L
-Original Message-
From:
There are 3 PayPal accounts, one free if you pay from your bank account, the
2 other charges to receive credit cards. Some people only accept free
payments, while others charge extra for credit cards. I mostly use my free
account.
Steve
i've sold hundreds of bucks worth of stuff on ebay
Hello everyone,
I would like to appeal to many posters to please make an effort to
trim the fat off of your replies. If there is a relevant part of a
message that you are specifically replying to, then by all means
quote it, but not doing so dooms us to have to sift through
messages that we
I thought this was a phonograph list
I think this can be summed up very easily
1. PAYPAL is a business just like anything else out there. If you spend $30
on a credit card at the local grocery store. The grocery store pays the
credit card company a percentage. Anytime you use a
Peter,
You are man of great faith. Faith in mega corporations is one of the
hardest kind to maintain.
If 180,000 hits on the phrase Paypal Complaints, and the legal actions by
many who have been harmed don't convince you... Then I give up. We'll just
have to agree to disagree. I do hope
Vince,
Your own words are the evidence of why these post are not off topic.
Unfortunately we bought this bus ticket now we gotta take the ride. Any
time I can give Paypal the raspberry publicly I am going to do it. I hate
their stinking entrails. I will not do business with anyone who
hi
i agree i find paypal a nice service plus if you have problems with an item
you have recourse too
unlike a check or money order
and i have seen some very rare items come up on ebay that we just dont see at
shows and if you are astute you can still get good buys
happy collecting all
zono
Thousands of sellers seem to figure it out. It's all in the percentages for
fees and what you expect to get for an item. It's simple math and standard
business.
As for not being able to pass costs on, true Ebay doesn't allow you to ask
for additoinal money. But, you can price accordingly with
I found out that it is illegal in California to charge an extra fee to cover
credit card acceptance fees, but some people are still doing it.
John
Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com wrote:
Thousands of sellers seem to figure it out. It's all in the percentages for
fees and what you expect
Might as well report me then.
-Original Message-
From: Rich [mailto:richg...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:25 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] credit card acceptance fee
The charging of a fee to use a credit card is also a violation of a federal
PayPal scares the bejesus out of me as a seller. They
charge too much for no apparent reason and have too
many rules. Are they a bank? Not really. But they act
like a bank. I don't offer PP anymore when I sell and
it hasn't hurt me. I'm afraid the gov't is going to
get involved one of these days
I really want one of these and there's one on Ebay
right now. They always go for too much, though. Or
maybe I'm just cheap. Also, they usually go to Europe
when I look at the high bidder, or so it seems to me.
Here's the item number. 6514806156
__
In a message dated 2/26/2005 12:25:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
richg...@ix.netcom.com writes:
Now if the seller
offers a discount for cash, check or money order this is more than
acceptable.
That's exactly what I do. Everyone hates the 3% surcharge but if you
increase your minimum
I am all set on the correct base now for the 8-12.
My thanks to Ron, Steven
and Mark for their assistance in this matter.
This is what make this list great
Thank you
George
If you can compare two known cylinders a 2 and a 4 minute, you will see that
the 4 minute recordings have a much finer groove. Once you have got that in
you mind, you can tell from looking.
Ron L
-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Just throwing this out there as a newbie to cylinder purchases myself...
John, did you mean something more along the lines of issue numbers and
series? I know I surely can't tell cylinder groove pitch from a low-quality
jpeg taken from 3 or 4 ft away, and (estate) sellers who sell groups of
Edison made a Spanish series blue amberol that says 2M on the top, 1200
series. Blue amberols have a plaster of paris core, the early ones were
coated and the plaster appears dark. Some 2M Indestructibles do not have 2M
on them. If you have questions contact me off list and I will answer.
In a message dated 12/2/2005 4:20:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
steve_nor...@msn.com writes:
Some 2M Indestructibles do not have 2M
on them
no Indestrucibles (metal rings), as far as I know, say 2 M.
All of the 4 min style Indestructibles do say 4M
US Everlastings are marked
Thanks, Allen, none of mine had it, but I don't have many so I really
appreciate your post. My US Everlasting of Cleveland are marked 2M or 4M,
these sound very good.
Steve
Some 2M Indestructibles do not have 2M
on them
no Indestrucibles (metal rings), as far as I know,
Well, Charles Hibbard was the sound engineer Albert Benzler was musical
director, and both came from Edison. They must have gained some important
knowledge perhaps improved on it. Knowing that the Everlasting celluloid
records could stand up under heavier use, I imagine they knew they could
In a message dated 12/2/2005 6:14:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ediso...@verizon.net writes:
Knowing that the Everlasting celluloid
records could stand up under heavier use, I imagine they knew they could cut
them with more amplitude and they wouldn't wear out,
***
It is
I would agree with Allen. My understanding is that
anything black will be marked 4M. If no mark
such mark is found on the end than they are 2 min.
cylinders. As for all Blue Amberolas being 4 min.
I believe I was told one time there were a few
that were actually 2 min. Personally I've never
Luckily, I've had only one (so far) which has split the seam !
- Original Message -
From: allena...@aol.com
***
It is remarkable that only US Everlasting made cylinder records out of
flat sheets of celluloid rather than tubes. If you look closely, you can
still
see the
Thanks for the great info, everyone! Sounds like I need to get my hands on
some 4M Everlastings pretty quick. Is there a resource online to check
catalog numbers against years of issue, 2- or 4-minute, various series
issued, various brands, etc.? I have a wonderful Humphrey recitation that
I have one that reverted to being a flat sheet. It is amazing, they seemed
to have perfected the celluloid record surface, volume and not much surface
noise.
Steve
***
It is remarkable that only US Everklasting made cylinder records out of
flat sheets of celluloid rather than
In a message dated 12/2/2005 11:51:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
steve_nor...@msn.com writes:
I have one that reverted to being a flat sheet. It is amazing, they seemed
to have perfected the celluloid record surface, volume and not much surface
noise.
**
at one point, inventors
In a message dated 12/3/2005 3:32:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
smalaw...@yahoo.com writes:
or some Indestructibles (2M on rim)
**
which are these? I know of no Albany Indestructibles with 2M on their rims.
Do you mean US Everlasting?
allen
whose last name I totally forgot. Steve, if you're out there, I only have part
of your email address, steve-nor...@ If you contact me off list I will give
you the info you were asking about.
John
Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
--- john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:
whose last name I totally forgot.
__
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Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
YES! Thanks!
Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com wrote: Steven Medved
--- john robles wrote:
whose last name I totally forgot.
__
Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about.
Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
Hi Scott,
I am very impressed, the only thing I would add is that Edison blue amberol
cylinders come in shades that range from light blue to navy blue and some
are dark purple. Edison also made lighter purple cylinders as part of the
Royal purple records, the numbers are 29000 series.
And yet more good buys,,,
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6582394118category=28221
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6582394111category=28221
I have posted a pdf file with a great Berliner Christmas Ad for everyone
to share...It says Gram-O-Phone for Christmas with great graphics.
The image is full size if you want to print it out. Wishing you all
the best for the Holiday Season!
Gregg Cline
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6585961775
http://tinyurl.com/9k66c
I have questions.
Did the Alva always have a raised lower bedplate like the opera and idelia?
Did the Alva ever have an ID plate that said Triumph?
Were LEFT OVER MODEL B's WERE RECASED IN OAK CASES WITH NO
Hi Steve,
I noticed the oak case seemed to be new oak. The grain pattern is poorly
matched and it just has a very new look to it.
Dave
Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6585961775
http://tinyurl.com/9k66c
I have questions.
Did
Steve,
What you did is an old time furniture refinishing trick that is worth
remembering. I assume that you let the old, dark, gunky shellac soak into the
new wood and then removed it with the Formby's prior to staining?
Dave
Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:
Hi Dave,
I agree,
The whole piece looks suspicious to me.
Firstly, the case is all wrong.
Second, he states Edison let other companies sell his machines. Hardly!
Edison rarely had anything to do with other companies. He didn't produce
premium machines as did Columbia and Victor. He protected his trade mark
I couldn't agree more, George. Personally, I think the line about Edison
making machines to let other companies sell is clear evidence of this guy's
intent to deceive in a big way (no one who knows enough about Edison to
distinguish between models that thoroughly would ever believe Edison sold
Lol, not at all, John, I meant the item description, not the title.
..unless you have something to confess. ;-) (I feel my chain getting
yanked.)
r.
- Original Message -
From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 06,
hi all
the alva was real
a friend of mine bought it
zono
hi all
sorry i thought you were all talking about the alva that went off a few
weeks ago
i have to agree with the majority on this one
zono_eBay: EDISON ALVA ELECTRIC PHONOGRAPH (item 6585961775 end time
Dec-11-05 17:03:42 PST)_
Hi George,
You are correct, I missed this one.
Thirdly, where is the on/off switch
Fourth, the binding posts look wrong. I do not know what they should look
like so I would appreciate you telling me as I have never seen an Alva. I
really enjoyed your post, thanks.
Steve
:-D I get it now. I put my title in caps but not the decription, I hate that
too.
Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com wrote: Lol, not at all, John, I meant
the item description, not the title.
..unless you have something to confess. ;-) (I feel my chain getting
yanked.)
r.
- Original
I agree. The first sight of the machine shouted 'wrong'.
Surprising that an Alva makes a huge price, and a short time later
this pops up.
New on the scene: Watch out for EMG remakes from India - saw one earlier in
the week. These are also expensive machines in the original. Following the
adage
Me too. The bedplate is sitting asymmetrically on the frame, with much more
wood showing in the front than the back. Isn't this a bit strange?
Ray
- Original Message -
From: George Glastris glast...@edisongallery.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tuesday,
Dear List:
I just got back in town so missed the opening comments on the ALVA
currently on eBay.
It is an Edison coin op works and NOT an original ALVA. The cabinet is
newly made and had to be to take the coin op works which used the larger C
frame motor. The B Alva had the raised
Greetings to all!
My name is Bill, and I'm new to this forum, though I'm not new to the wonderful
field of antique phonographs. I reside in God's Country(New Hampshire-heheh)
and have been collecting these damn things for 35 yrs. It really is a sickness!
As far as this Alva goes, I'm reminded
Hi Folks,
Can anyone help out with a close up picture of the castors and lid lock on an
early amberola 1A?
I'm trying to find these for my machine. If you can help please send pics to
mari...@optushome.com.au
Cheers,
Mario
From lo...@oldcrank.com Wed Dec 14 05:53:51 2005
From:
In a message dated 12/14/2005 7:54:41 AM Central Standard Time,
lo...@oldcrank.com writes:
Although Janet was not a phonograph collector, her love was
nutcrackers. Old, new, didn't matter. Her home was filled with
nutcrackers at Christmas.
..I share her enthusiasm for these, and when
My condolences, Loran. It's especially hard when a loved one dies around the
Holidays. My father died just before Thanksgiving some years back. And we
were not feeling thankful that year, except that he was at last at peace. My
sympathy to you and your family.
Tim Fabrizio
Phonophan
PO
Loran -
I'm so sorry to hear about Janet. I think I speak for all of us in
wishing that our sharing your grief might lighten your load a little. You,
David, and your family will be in our prayers. Bless you all - -
George Paul
My thoughts are with you and your family as you go through this time.
stan stanford
- Original Message -
From: phonop...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sad News
My condolences, Loran. It's especially hard when a
hi loran
my condolences
rob
Loran,
my sincere condolences to you nd your family.
Bruce Mercer
My heartfelt sympathy goes out to you Loran and your family in your time of
Loss and may the peace which comes from the memories of love and wonderful
times shared comfort you now and in the days ahead.
My thoughts and prayers will be with you,
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: Loran
Loran,
I will keep you and your family in my thoughts. I hope all this will bring
everyone involved peace as time goes by.
Dan
- Original Message -
From: Loran T. Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:53 AM
Loran,
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
Ken
From clockworkh...@aol.com Wed Dec 14 17:48:37 2005
From: clockworkh...@aol.com (clockworkh...@aol.com)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:08 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] Sad News
Message-ID: 2b8.2649ea3.30d22...@aol.com
Dear Loran:
May God
Loran:
Please accept my condolences. I trust the friendships you have developed on
this list can bring you a degree of peace and understanding during this time.
We all value the support you have lent us these many months and years,I hope we
can return the same .
Bob
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Hi, group - -
I'm doing some research on Hawthorne Sheble Star talking machines.
There don't seem to be very many of them around, so I'm asking those who own
one (or more) if they'd please be willing to let me know the model number (at
upper right on the Star ID plate) and serial
No pic.
http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/95470623
Dave
A friend of mind just picked up a very early Victrola IV with the metal grill
and the early metal reproducer (Victor O type). According to the Victor Data
Book it's in the first few made. It even has the round earlier brake.
I know that the reproducer is worth quite a bit, maybe more than the
Dan,
If you want, you can email me directly (cybertig...@adelphia.net). The VV-IV
would have had an Exhibition reproducer, so the reproducer that he has seems
like a great find in itself. Is he sure it is the Victor O reproducer and
not a #1 Concert?
What about the plating on the grill and the
Does he do 6 blanks??
Dan Kj- ediso...@verizon.net wrote: or maybe you could get Shawn to record
something nice onto a 6 blank
- Original Message -
From: john robles
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:56 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] 20th century cylinder help needed
Hello
Does
Thanks Rene, that sounds good!
taediso...@aol.com wrote: Paul Morris in England makes SUPERB replica 6
Columbia cylinders, including
boxes with replica labels. A much better option than the originals, which
are not only prone to mold but are very brittle.
Best regards,
Rene Rondeau
Hi John,
http://cgi.ebay.com/COLUMBIA-PHONOGRAPH-6-20TH-CENTURY-CYLINDER-RECORD-NR_W0QQitemZ6590617873QQcategoryZ38029QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Don't know if you saw this...
Regards, Bill
-- Original message --
From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
Hello
Does
There is another list, which is devoted to the care and repair of later
phonographs, and their various motors, and mechanisms. I couldn't find the
other
list in a Google search, but I know Greg Bogantz, whom I think is a former
RCA engineer, contributes to it.
Randy
In a message dated 12/26/2005 10:09:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
diamondisk...@aol.com writes:
There is another list, which is devoted to the care and repair of later
phonographs, and their various motors, and mechanisms. I couldn't find the
other
list in a Google search, but I
A late merry Christmas! After a 2+ year absence, I've placed the Record
Research index back online at a new URL:
http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/settlet/
I can't find the year indexes for 1955 - 1960. However, all alphabetical files
are there. I hope it is useful.
All the best,
Tyrone
Hi everyone,
I thought I would introduce myself, and thank everyone for the oppurtunity to
join the group. My nane is Ronnie Johnson, and I am in NC. I am one of the
founding members of C.A.M.P.S.( http://webpages.charter.net/phonoworks/) and
try to keep our web site up and running. I know alot
It's the Electrola list, to which I posted the same request. I am just
trying to maximize chances of finding the motor since I already did the
electronics in this machine.
Ron
-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of
I was watching a record on ebay, Doin' the Raccoon by Billy Murray and the
7 Blue Babies. It closed for $725.00. I've seen this record end high before
and am just curious to know why it is so high. Of course, the song title is
one of the most famous of the period and I have four or five
Good to see you here Ronnie. You will like it here...it's a great place to
be.
Bruce Mercer
In a message dated 12/27/2005 10:12:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
aph4...@aol.com writes:
Only with hand grenades.
Ouch!
Bruce,
Edison DD 52448 (Doin' the Raccoon) was one of the late electrical
recordings issued by Edison before his company went out of business. And by
the time Murray made this record he was pretty much at the end of his rope
in popularity. These discs did not sell very well and are difficult
Bruce,
Edison DD 52448 (Doin' the Raccoon) was one of the late electrical
recordings issued by Edison before his company went out of business. And by
the time Murray made this record he was pretty much at the end of his rope
in popularity. These discs did not sell very well and are difficult
Those RCA phonographs all had V-M changers in them. I probably have the same
model as yours. I'd suggest Gary Stork, who is the guru on V-M equipmwnt. He
does have parts. Try him at
gst...@concentric.net.
He's in Northville, Michigan.
Doug. Houston Ortonville, Mich.
-
Thanks, I'll check that lead.
Ron L
-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:01 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Electric motor needed
Those RCA phonographs all
Richard,
I don't have a knob but maybe this info will help you locate one.
Your XII knob has an integral wood screw thread and is part number 3196GP.
(GP = Gold Plated) There was a nickel plated version also 3196NG (NG =
Nickel Gloss)
It is described as:
L. Knob 1/2
L. Screw 1/2
D. Knob 3/4
Hi Ron ~
I don't have any N.O.S. replacements for that particular motor, but I
have two complete used ones, including all the associated pivoting
plates, rollers, idler wheel, etc. Of these two, one has a stiff
armature, but the other one takes off readily and comes up to speed the
instant
Hello
On the subject of DD's. Is there a discography of all Edison DD records? Are
there a few different discographies - ie simple vs very detailed? Where can
one purchase a copy?
Many thanks
Rob
Hi Rob,
Tim Gracyk offered one called Edison Diamond Disc Re-creations, a spiral bound
book that covered them from 1910-1929. It covers all the discs and gives
release dates and cut-out dates. You may still be able to get one from him from
his web site.(www.garlic.com)
Hope this helps!
Wasn't the definitive two-volume Diamond Disc compendium written by Ray Wile
and Ron Dethlefson in 1976 or something? Tim Gracyk connected me with Ron
years ago when I found a 1923 Summer Sales Contest jobbers DD with Dalhart
singing a song written by one of the contest winners.
Best,
Robert
There's a better one coming out next year (2006) by Raymond Wile, to be
published by Mainspring Press. The link for it is
http://mainspringpress.com/news.html
-Ryan
From: Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
To: Antique Phonograph List
The reference I've used for years is
Edison Diamon Discs 50001-52651- 1912-1929 by Fred Karlin, copyright 1972.
It's spiral bound with a slick white and black cover of an Edison (paper)
label. It has really gotten a workout over the last 30 something years. :-)
About 160 pages.
Bruce
Right you are Ryan, In Ever since the movies learned to talk (DD 52518),
Murray both talks and sings, and uses about 4-5 different voices, I assume
these are all him, although some, especially the young lady, could be
someone else. Much like an elaborate Vaudeville routine, with several
Hi Rob,
http://www.truesoundtransfers.de/disco.htm
This one is handy as it downloads to a speadsheet and record numbers are
easily looked up.
Steve
Hello
Thanks very much for all your help with this. I wasn't sure if there was a
complete discography, and am very happy there are. Respect to all the people
who put in tons of hard work to compile these!
Best regards
Rob
I won this book on Ebay and then discovered I already had one on my shelf!
It is:
THE PAPER DOG (43pp 5-1/2 x 8-1/2 good condition)
An Illustrated Guide to 78 R.P.M. Victor record labels 1900 - 1958
by Michael W. Sherman
The book is long out of print and contains detailed text with typical
I'll buy it!!
Graham Newton g...@audio-restoration.com wrote:
I won this book on Ebay and then discovered I already had one on my shelf!
It is:
THE PAPER DOG (43pp 5-1/2 x 8-1/2 good condition)
An Illustrated Guide to 78 R.P.M. Victor record labels 1900 - 1958
by Michael W. Sherman
The book
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